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FDRLincoln -> RE: Submarines in the Pacific: FDRLincoln (Japan) vs. Bakerman (Allies) (2/21/2012 6:07:47 PM)

In China, he is going to make an attempt to seal off the Ichang pocket. I didn't get my reinforcements up quickly enough here and he will probably succeed.




FDRLincoln -> RE: Submarines in the Pacific: FDRLincoln (Japan) vs. Bakerman (Allies) (2/21/2012 7:03:17 PM)

On the positive side in China, I am closing in on Wenchow.

I wish I could get my computer to take screenshots properly.




PaxMondo -> RE: Submarines in the Pacific: FDRLincoln (Japan) vs. Bakerman (Allies) (2/22/2012 12:46:33 AM)

Printscreen won't work?  Then Paint to resize and crop.




FDRLincoln -> RE: Submarines in the Pacific: FDRLincoln (Japan) vs. Bakerman (Allies) (2/22/2012 12:48:13 AM)

Nope...print screen does nothing, it doesn't respond at all. It has been messed up on this computer for months.




FDRLincoln -> RE: Submarines in the Pacific: FDRLincoln (Japan) vs. Bakerman (Allies) (2/22/2012 1:02:55 AM)

I will start running turns on the other computer tomorrow and will hope to so some screenshots then




FDRLincoln -> RE: Submarines in the Pacific: FDRLincoln (Japan) vs. Bakerman (Allies) (2/22/2012 5:43:22 PM)

Night Time Surface Combat, near Sorong at 81,107, Range 11,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
     BB Nagato
     BB Mutsu
     BB Fuso
     BB Yamashiro
     BB Ise
     BB Hyuga
     CL Yura
     CL Kitakami
     DD Hatsukaze
     DD Natsushio
     DD Hayashio
     DD Amatsukaze
     DD Yamagumo
     DD Shiratsuyu
     DD Shigure
     DD Yugure
     DD Ariake
     DD Tadeshiwa

Allied Ships
     xAKL Bintoehan, Shell hits 8, and is sunk
     PC Zeeman, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
     AVP Reiger, Shell hits 2, and is sunk



Reduced sighting due to 0% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions and 0% moonlight: 12,000 yards
Range closes to 11,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 11,000 yards
Japanese open fire on surprised Allied ships at 11,000 yards
PC Zeeman sunk by BB Hyuga at 11,000 yards
AVP Reiger sunk by BB Ise at 11,000 yards
Range closes to 10,000 yards
DD Yamagumo engages xAKL Bintoehan at 10,000 yards
Range closes to 7,000 yards
xAKL Bintoehan sunk by BB Hyuga at 7,000 yards
xAKL Bintoehan sunk by BB Hyuga at 7,000 yards
Combat ends with last Allied ship sunk...




FDRLincoln -> RE: Submarines in the Pacific: FDRLincoln (Japan) vs. Bakerman (Allies) (2/22/2012 5:44:32 PM)

Today's hot ASW action

ASW attack near Babeldaob  at 89,95

Japanese Ships
     DD Wakatake
     DD Sanae

Allied Ships
     SS Pike



SS Pike is located by DD Wakatake
DD Sanae fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Sanae fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Sanae fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Sanae fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Sanae fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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ASW attack near Kona  at 180,113

Japanese Ships
     SS I-8

Allied Ships
     DD Cassin
     DD Conyngham



SS I-8 is sighted by escort
I-8 diving deep ....
DD Cassin fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Conyngham fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Conyngham fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Conyngham fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Conyngham fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Conyngham attacking submerged sub ....
DD Conyngham cannot establish contact with SS I-8
SS I-8 eludes DD Conyngham by diving deep
DD Conyngham cannot reach attack position over SS I-8
DD Conyngham cannot reach attack position over SS I-8
SS I-8 eludes DD Conyngham by diving deep
DD Conyngham cannot establish contact with SS I-8
DD Conyngham fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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ASW attack near Hengchun  at 83,68

Japanese Ships
     DD Matsukaze

Allied Ships
     SS S-37



SS S-37 is located by DD Matsukaze
DD Matsukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub




FDRLincoln -> RE: Submarines in the Pacific: FDRLincoln (Japan) vs. Bakerman (Allies) (2/22/2012 5:46:19 PM)

Submarine I-166 takes out a small Allied freighter using her deck gun. Why waste a torpedo? No confirmation on sinking as of yet.

Submarine attack near Pontianak  at 54,89

Japanese Ships
     SS I-166

Allied Ships
     xAKL Shinai, Shell hits 26,  heavy fires,  heavy damage



xAKL Shinai is sighted by SS I-166
SS I-166 attacking on the surface
SS I-166 low on gun ammo, Nojima K. breaks off surface engagement and submerges




FDRLincoln -> RE: Submarines in the Pacific: FDRLincoln (Japan) vs. Bakerman (Allies) (2/22/2012 5:47:29 PM)

I finally find a US fleet boat. Thankfully the torps missed.

Sub attack near Kochi  at 107,62

Japanese Ships
     AMC Bankok Maru
     CL Tama
     DD Tatsuyuke
     DD Yugao

Allied Ships
     SS Searaven



SS Searaven launches 4 torpedoes at AMC Bankok Maru
Searaven diving deep ....
DD Tatsuyuke fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yugao attacking submerged sub ....
DD Yugao cannot establish contact with SS Searaven
DD Yugao cannot establish contact with SS Searaven
DD Tatsuyuke attacking submerged sub ....
DD Tatsuyuke loses contact with SS Searaven
DD Tatsuyuke cannot reach attack position over SS Searaven
DD Tatsuyuke cannot establish contact with SS Searaven
DD Yugao fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Tatsuyuke fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tatsuyuke attacking submerged sub ....
DD Tatsuyuke cannot establish contact with SS Searaven
DD Tatsuyuke cannot establish contact with SS Searaven
DD Tatsuyuke fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub




EUBanana -> RE: Submarines in the Pacific: FDRLincoln (Japan) vs. Bakerman (Allies) (2/22/2012 11:05:53 PM)

Kinda weird you're playing the Japanese if you're a sub fanboy! Unless you are some sort of masochist looking forward to 1944 and being unable to leave port...

Does your love of the sub war extend to the Japanese subs as well then? I confess to not knowing much of their activities...




FDRLincoln -> RE: Submarines in the Pacific: FDRLincoln (Japan) vs. Bakerman (Allies) (2/23/2012 12:18:26 AM)

Well basically I'm just trying to see what the Japanese are capable of before strong allied ASW kicks in. Their submarine force is quite interesting...some unique designs, both aircraft-equipped as well as extremely long-ranged attack subs.

So far, the hardest problem is finding targets. I can't find his merchants or convoys, or even fleet units. So far. I'm sure they are out there somewhere. I've got Glen-equipped subs around the West Coast and so far they have seen very little.




FDRLincoln -> RE: Submarines in the Pacific: FDRLincoln (Japan) vs. Bakerman (Allies) (2/23/2012 2:04:31 AM)

Some observations regarding my opponent's style of play.

1) He is aggressive with air units, contesting air space over Malaya and the Phillipines as much as possible and even set a CAP trap in China which cost me a couple of close support planes. I assume he is trying to atritt my pool of good pilots.

2) His use of land units is mixed. He adopted a forward defense in Malaya but the last couple of turns it looks like he is starting to retreat to Singapore. In the Phillipines he is withdrawing everything to Clark. Recon says there are only 2,000 troops left in Manila, and I have three infantry regiments set to arrive tomorrow. If Recon is accurate, Manila will be mine shortly, but Clark will take awhile to wear down.

3) He pulled off a CV raid on the invasion forces at Tarawa and Nauhru, and he made good use of his PT boats in the Phillipines to harass my landings. He has some shipping concentrated near Singapore, but I haven't seen Force Z anywhere. He did smack my initial Miri landing with cruisers from the US Asiatic Fleet (which somehow got past my screening force of two battlecruiser and six CAs), but the last several turns, I haven't seen anything but a spare freighter or two. No convoys that I can spot. No surface action groups. No sign of his CVs. Submarines haven't seen any sign of convoys along the usual communication routes to/from the West Coast.

Where is the enemy battle fleet?





FDRLincoln -> RE: Submarines in the Pacific: FDRLincoln (Japan) vs. Bakerman (Allies) (2/24/2012 6:14:25 PM)

MANILA FALLS. The city was completely abandoned. Japanese troops capture over 150,000 supplies plus an almost-intact airfield. Over 70,000 allied troops are now at Clark Field, digging in no doubt.

My plan: bombing. Lots and Lots of bombing while my own troops rest and reorganize.




FDRLincoln -> RE: Submarines in the Pacific: FDRLincoln (Japan) vs. Bakerman (Allies) (2/24/2012 6:15:58 PM)

The Submarine War:

Sub attack near Tandjoengpinang at 50,85

Japanese Ships
SS I-162, hits 8

Allied Ships
DD Stronghold
DD Jupiter
DD Isis



SS I-162 launches 2 torpedoes at DD Stronghold
DD Jupiter attacking submerged sub ....
SS I-162 eludes ASW attack from DD Jupiter
DD Isis attacking submerged sub ....
SS I-162 eludes DD Isis by hugging bottom
SS I-162 eludes DD Isis by hugging bottom
DD Jupiter attacking submerged sub ....
DD Jupiter cannot establish contact with SS I-162
DD Isis fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Jupiter fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Isis fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

I-162 is beat up but should make it back to Saigon.




FDRLincoln -> RE: Submarines in the Pacific: FDRLincoln (Japan) vs. Bakerman (Allies) (2/24/2012 6:17:02 PM)

I find a fleet sub near Japan. ASW air is intense in this area and I've got several PB and SC standing patrols that will try and trap Skipjack.

SW attack near Izu Oshima at 113,62

Japanese Ships
DD Tawakaze

Allied Ships
SS Skipjack, hits 3



SS Skipjack is sighted by escort
Skipjack bottoming out ....
DD Tawakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tawakaze attacking submerged sub ....
Escort abandons search for sub




FDRLincoln -> RE: Submarines in the Pacific: FDRLincoln (Japan) vs. Bakerman (Allies) (2/24/2012 6:18:05 PM)

Damn Dutch submarines!!!

Submarine attack near Kota Bharu at 52,75

Japanese Ships
xAK Nissyu Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS KXII



xAK Nissyu Maru is sighted by SS KXII
SS KXII launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Nissyu Maru
Nissyu Maru sinks.

Forgot to look up the tonnage. I will do so next turn




EUBanana -> RE: Submarines in the Pacific: FDRLincoln (Japan) vs. Bakerman (Allies) (2/24/2012 7:21:47 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: FDRLincoln
So far, the hardest problem is finding targets. I can't find his merchants or convoys, or even fleet units. So far. I'm sure they are out there somewhere. I've got Glen-equipped subs around the West Coast and so far they have seen very little.


I doubt the merchants are really that relevant in the great scheme of things, the Allies are never gonna run out of them. Not an attackable centre of gravity there I think. I know you hear Allied players moaning about losing TKs but even TKs are not really relevant given the Allies don't need to ship oil, only fuel, and xAKs en masse (and they Allies certainly have that!) will do the job.

Fleet units now, thats another story... Japanese subs are pretty deadly in 1942 to CVs. [:(]




FDRLincoln -> RE: Submarines in the Pacific: FDRLincoln (Japan) vs. Bakerman (Allies) (2/24/2012 7:25:40 PM)

Yeah, I know the Allies have plenty of shipping...it isn't the hulls so much as what they might be carrying....knocking off an AP full of troops or an AK full of fighter frames at this point in the war can slow him down considerably.

But I can't find a damn thing. His fleet is hiding. Other than some DDs on ASW duty near Hawaii, and a concentration of shipping at Singapore, I can't see anything.

That will change shortly as I'm capturing more bases and moving more search planes up.




FDRLincoln -> RE: Submarines in the Pacific: FDRLincoln (Japan) vs. Bakerman (Allies) (2/24/2012 7:26:49 PM)

I'm about to re-invade Wake, and KB is covering this. There has been "heavy radio traffic" at Pearl Harbor the last few days, and it is plausable he might try to interfere with another Wake landing. After I take Wake, KB will go back to Truk and then head south to support Rabaul landing.




FDRLincoln -> RE: Submarines in the Pacific: FDRLincoln (Japan) vs. Bakerman (Allies) (2/25/2012 8:35:49 PM)

Game delay while my opponent is dealing with some real-life issues.

Been spending the time planning for defense of the Kuriles. Etorofu will be built up as a naval and air base to support defensive operations in this area as well as a possible advance in the Aleutians. Engineers are on the way. I am also going to send an AS here. The older RO-subs will be based here for defensive patrols and scouting into the Aleutians. At least one squadron of older destroyers will be positioned here as well, to act as a tripwire for any Allied raids or attempts to take the northern invasion route.





FDRLincoln -> RE: Submarines in the Pacific: FDRLincoln (Japan) vs. Bakerman (Allies) (2/27/2012 4:40:51 AM)

Submarine Report, December 20, 1941

Japan: Submarine I-158 torpedoes and sinks Dutch tanker Manvantara, filled to the brim with oil, near Palembang. The tanker explodes and sinks. Submarine I-164 fires two torpedoes at British minelayer Kung Wo near Singapore but misses and is driven off by escorts. Submarine I-172 plays cat-and-mouse with US ASW task force near Hawaii but nobody gets hurt.

Allies: Submarine Stingray sighted near Shanghai by local ASW forces.




FDRLincoln -> RE: Submarines in the Pacific: FDRLincoln (Japan) vs. Bakerman (Allies) (2/27/2012 4:45:50 AM)

OTHER NEWS:

Hong Kong falls.
Sinkawang and Kuching are invaded.
Aggressive US Navy Catalinas in the Phillipines dodge A6M2 CAP near Vigan, torpedo and sink APD Hishu.
Wake is bombarded by heavy cruiser task force. Landing force should arrive in two turns. There has been heavy radio activity at Pearl Harbor the last three days, but no sign of his carriers. KB is covering the Wake landing in case he tries to intervene with surface forces or his own carriers.




FDRLincoln -> RE: Submarines in the Pacific: FDRLincoln (Japan) vs. Bakerman (Allies) (2/27/2012 4:57:25 AM)

Allied submarines, all Dutch, have sunk 3xAK for 19,275 tons
Japanese submarines have sunk 1xAVD, 1xAP, 1xAKL, 1xTK for 17,655 tons




FDRLincoln -> RE: Submarines in the Pacific: FDRLincoln (Japan) vs. Bakerman (Allies) (2/27/2012 5:01:34 AM)

Tanker Manvantara, sunk by I-158 on December 20, 1941



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FDRLincoln -> RE: Submarines in the Pacific: FDRLincoln (Japan) vs. Bakerman (Allies) (2/27/2012 4:45:04 PM)

Surface action! Force Z attempts to disrupt landings at Singkawang! First Battle Cruiser Squadron defends the landing...




FDRLincoln -> RE: Submarines in the Pacific: FDRLincoln (Japan) vs. Bakerman (Allies) (2/27/2012 4:46:01 PM)

Force Z is badly damaged...




FDRLincoln -> RE: Submarines in the Pacific: FDRLincoln (Japan) vs. Bakerman (Allies) (2/27/2012 4:49:03 PM)

This isn't fair...the screenshot won't upload. ARRGGG

Results:

Day Time Surface Combat, near Singkawang at 56,88, Range 23,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
     BB Kongo, Shell hits 1
     BB Haruna, Shell hits 11,  heavy fires
     CA Maya
     CA Ashigara, Shell hits 1
     CA Mogami
     CA Mikuma
     CA Suzuya, Shell hits 1
     CA Kumano
     CL Kuma
     DD Maikaze, Shell hits 1
     DD Nowaki, Shell hits 2
     DD Arashi
     DD Hagikaze, Shell hits 3,  heavy fires,  heavy damage
     DD Arashio, Shell hits 1
     DD Ikazuchi, Shell hits 1,  heavy fires
     DD Inazuma, Shell hits 1

Allied Ships
     BB Prince of Wales, Shell hits 95,  heavy fires,  heavy damage
     BC Repulse, Shell hits 4
     CL Danae, Shell hits 14,  heavy fires,  heavy damage
     CL Dragon, Shell hits 3,  on fire
     CL Durban, Shell hits 4, and is sunk
     DD Vampire, Shell hits 7,  heavy fires,  heavy damage
     DD Tenedos, Shell hits 2,  heavy fires
     DD Electra, Shell hits 15, and is sunk
     DD Express, Shell hits 9,  heavy fires,  heavy damage



Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions: 28,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 23,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 23,000 yards
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Day Time Surface Combat, near Singkawang at 56,88, Range 25,000 Yards

Allied aircraft
     no flights

Allied aircraft losses
     Walrus II: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
     BB Kongo, Shell hits 3
     CA Ashigara
     CA Mogami
     CA Mikuma
     CA Suzuya, Shell hits 3
     CA Kumano
     CL Kuma
     DD Maikaze, Shell hits 1,  on fire
     DD Nowaki
     DD Arashi
     DD Arashio

Allied Ships
     BB Prince of Wales, Shell hits 10, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
     BC Repulse, Shell hits 18,  on fire
     CL Danae, Shell hits 2,  heavy fires,  heavy damage
     CL Dragon, Shell hits 3,  on fire
     DD Vampire, Shell hits 10, and is sunk
     DD Tenedos, Shell hits 6,  heavy fires,  heavy damage
     DD Express, Shell hits 3, and is sunk



Prince of Wales crumples under more than 100 shell hits, 5-inch and above, plus two long-lance torpedoes.

Kongo is in good shape. Haruna has 40 SYS damage but just 10 float and should make it home.




Captain Cruft -> RE: Submarines in the Pacific: FDRLincoln (Japan) vs. Bakerman (Allies) (2/27/2012 5:19:41 PM)

Nasty. In the daytime too. The First Sea Lord would not be amused [;)]




FDRLincoln -> RE: Submarines in the Pacific: FDRLincoln (Japan) vs. Bakerman (Allies) (2/27/2012 5:54:14 PM)

Gonna try the screenshot one more time

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FDRLincoln -> RE: Submarines in the Pacific: FDRLincoln (Japan) vs. Bakerman (Allies) (2/27/2012 5:58:59 PM)

An awful lot of those shell hits on Prince of Wales bounced off the belt armor. But there were a lot of superstructure hits from destroyer and cruiser weapons that must have really nailed her SYS.

Nell and Betty torpedo attacks on Repulse failed to give any results. She is on fire and limping away from the scene. Four submarines are vectoring in on her likely line of retreat. I'm guessing that she will make for Palembang since I have air superiority over Singapore.

In other news, a sweep consisting of 2xCL and 10xDD slaughtered another group of merchantmen attempting to escape the Phillipines.




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