RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren (Full Version)

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terje439 -> RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren (5/28/2012 11:38:34 AM)

Turn 89

Overall
So, the dam bursts. AGC is attacked and thrown out of its forts this turn. There is nothing to do but to start withdrawing as there is not enough troops to make a proper defence outside of fortified hexes. AGN has been given order to reactivate. Next turn we will execute "Fall Exodus", and march back quite far. There is no point in losing troops and units by defending clear terrain with no objectives in it. True, we will lose some USSR cities as well as the Baltic, but it has to be done.
The USSR make a total of 19 attacks, causing 3 helds, 15 retreats and 1 surrender (fortifed zone). We only make one attack in the south, causing a rout.

Losses
USSR : 105.000 troops, 1.117 guns, 298 AFVs, 387 AC.
Axis : 50.000 troops, 867 guns, 133 AFVs, 8 AC.

Pools
Manpower : 381.537
Vehicle : 194.798
Armaments : 223.605
Hiwi : 753
Worth noting : Alot of fortifed zones were disbanded this turn, which explains the Hiwi increase. A bigger concern is the vehicle pool.

Pest control
Both appearing partisans are chased away.




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terje439 -> RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren (5/29/2012 11:07:18 AM)

Turn 90

Overall
We actually did not need to fall further back this turn as the USSR are too slow to keep up with our retreats. This gives me some hope of staying in front of the next line untill mud arrives (turn 94), but it will be close. The USSR launch 11 attacks this turn, scoring 4 helds, 6 retreats and 1 rout, while we score 1 held, 5 retreats and 2 routs for a total of 8 attacks.

Losses
USSR : 113.000 troops, 1.227 guns, 530 AFVs, 329 AC.
Axis : 48.000 troops, 812 guns, 73 AFVs, 2 AC.

Pools
Manpower : 385.568
Vehicle : 195.567
Armaments : 223.380
Hiwi : 441

Pest control
3 partisans shows up, and 3 run away.




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terje439 -> RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren (5/30/2012 6:32:51 PM)

Turn 91

Overall
The blizzard is over and movement increase. The USSR utilizes this to attack all along the line, but only score limited success in the south. It seems the line might still hold untill mud. A total of 20 USSR attacks results in 5 helds, 13 retreats and 2 routs. We luanch 11 attacks and score 2 helds, 8 retreats and 1 rout. The retreats however are victories only in name (see below).

Losses
USSR : 139.000 troops, 1.717 guns, 834 AFVs, 440 AC.
Axis : 71.000 troops, 1.368 guns, 152 AFVs, 34 AC.

Pools
Manpower : 391.736 (so many men, so few used...)
Vehicle : 201.089
Armaments : 214.262
Hiwi : 139




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glvaca -> RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren (5/31/2012 12:01:21 AM)

You need to put in more bodies in the attack. 120k+ versus 50k will yield much better results.



terje439 -> RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren (5/31/2012 2:21:33 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: glvaca

You need to put in more bodies in the attack. 120k+ versus 50k will yield much better results.



Actually...It did not I am afraid. Losses were simply increased by aproxomately 500 troops on each side :(


Terje



terje439 -> RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren (5/31/2012 2:25:23 PM)

Turn 92

Overall
The USSR keeps on making more and more attacks. This turn they even breach the northern front. We were still able to stabilize the situation all along the front, so it seems our forward defence will hold untill mud, which means we have a proper line aided by rivers to defend during spring/summer.
The USSR launched a total of 26 attacks this turn, scoring 7 helds and 19 retreats. We made only 9 attacks, and scored 2 helds, 6 retreats and 1 rout.

Losses
USSR : 124.000 troops, 1.524 guns, 559 AFVs, 475 AC.
Axis : 72.000 troops, 1.323 guns, 109 AFVs, 15 AC.

Pools
Manpower : 390.967
Vehicle : 206.071
Armaments : 189.884
Hiwi : 55

Pest control
4 partisan units are forced to retreat, leaving none on the map.




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juret -> RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren (5/31/2012 2:39:45 PM)

does he have many guard cav and tank units?



terje439 -> RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren (5/31/2012 4:21:24 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: juret

does he have many guard cav and tank units?


Yes. I do not have the exact number, but there are quite a few of each, not to mention rifle corps...


Terje



Banori -> RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren (5/31/2012 5:10:35 PM)

very nica aar. I´m an absolut beginner. it´s interesting for me to see how things work. terje he would do the same with me i think don´t be sad.



terje439 -> RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren (5/31/2012 6:31:34 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Banori

very nica aar. I´m an absolut beginner. it´s interesting for me to see how things work. terje he would do the same with me i think don´t be sad.


Thank you for those kind words, and welcome to the forums [sm=Cool-049.gif]
Well, the really annoying part is that I can see some major mistakes I have made, but I guess that is how we learn.


Terje



terje439 -> RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren (6/1/2012 2:47:50 PM)

Turn 93

Overall
The USSR make fewer attacks this turn (which we are grateful for). A mere 15 attacks, scoring 2 helds, 11 retreats and 2 routs. We make 6 attacks and score 2 helds, 2 retreats and 2 routs. Next turn should see mud set in, and our panzers are desperately in need of that breather.

Losses
USSR : 108.000 troops, 1.094 guns, 589 AFVs, 316 AC.
Axis : 59.000 troops, 1.007 guns, 156 AFVs, 5 AC.

Pools
Manpower : 398.263
Vehicle : 209.283
Armaments : 185.504
Hiwi : 9

Pest control
Both appearing partisans make a hasty retreat this turn.

Light at the end of the tunnel
All we have to do now is to prevent the USSR to claim more than 0.5 VP per month for the rest of the game [sm=crazy.gif]




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glvaca -> RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren (6/1/2012 4:57:25 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: terje439


quote:

ORIGINAL: glvaca

You need to put in more bodies in the attack. 120k+ versus 50k will yield much better results.



Actually...It did not I am afraid. Losses were simply increased by aproxomately 500 troops on each side :(


Terje




Hmmm, but it certainly does reduce the chance of a held. That alone should make it worthwhile.



terje439 -> RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren (6/1/2012 5:02:25 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: glvaca


quote:

ORIGINAL: terje439


quote:

ORIGINAL: glvaca

You need to put in more bodies in the attack. 120k+ versus 50k will yield much better results.



Actually...It did not I am afraid. Losses were simply increased by aproxomately 500 troops on each side :(


Terje




Hmmm, but it certainly does reduce the chance of a held. That alone should make it worthwhile.





True, but the screenie I posted showed a retreat. I am simply inflicting too little damage with my attacks :(


Terje



glvaca -> RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren (6/1/2012 5:19:12 PM)

off course, but you mention several helds per turn, increase the body count in the attack, things should imporve.
Taking casualties in a win is bad, taking more casualties in a held really sucks...



glvaca -> RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren (6/1/2012 5:20:13 PM)

it also depends on what your attacking and how obviously. Try to avoid attacking rifle corps, focus on divs or armour corps, if possible off course.



terje439 -> RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren (6/2/2012 11:26:43 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: glvaca

off course, but you mention several helds per turn, increase the body count in the attack, things should imporve.
Taking casualties in a win is bad, taking more casualties in a held really sucks...


That is true ofc, but at times I simply have to attack if the odds seems in favour, as that is more or less the only way to buy some time.

Terje



terje439 -> RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren (6/2/2012 11:30:45 AM)

Turn 94

Overall
Mud sets in, and we start to fall back at once. The fact that the USSR manage 39 attacks this round only helps this decision. The USSR attacks results in 6 helds, 30 retreatsm 1 shatter, 2 routs. The shattered unit is a Rumanian Infantry Division, so no big loss really. We remove alot of forts this turn which is why the Hiwi number below is so high.

Losses
USSR : 110.000 troops, 1.216 guns, 334 AFVs, 481 AC.
Axis : 70.000 troops, 1.346 guns, 89 AFVs, 37 AC.

Pools
Manpower : 431.536
Vehicles : 209.692
Armaments : 183.860 (guess this is where I will run out)
Hiwi : 1.632

Pest control
All three partisans are delt with.




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juret -> RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren (6/2/2012 12:22:21 PM)

Do u have your panzer and pzgr divisions behind lines in reserve?

if not advice
-have pz corps with high initiative rating (8+) and army army grp (7+)
-2to3 pz and 1 pzgr per corps all with 3 support units each
-spread em out behind lines to cover 8-9 hexes with the Hq in the middle so all are in contact
-never have them in the front and taking attrition and fatigue
-Hwy pz bats and pioners for pz and mot flak 88mm and stugs for MOT divisions



terje439 -> RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren (6/2/2012 2:59:55 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: juret

Do u have your panzer and pzgr divisions behind lines in reserve?

if not advice
-have pz corps with high initiative rating (8+) and army army grp (7+)
-2to3 pz and 1 pzgr per corps all with 3 support units each
-spread em out behind lines to cover 8-9 hexes with the Hq in the middle so all are in contact
-never have them in the front and taking attrition and fatigue
-Hwy pz bats and pioners for pz and mot flak 88mm and stugs for MOT divisions


Partially. At times I need them to counterattack to drive the enemy away from an essential hex or two, but yes, I try to keep them in the rear.


Terje



terje439 -> RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren (6/3/2012 9:32:19 AM)

Turn 95

Overall
We keep fallin back. We left some Rumanians for the USSR to play with, but they are content routing them instead of destroying them. I want them killed off before Rumania falls, so that is not what I want to see.
The USSR make a total of 20 attacks, causing 3 helds, 7 retreats and 10 routs.

Losses
USSR : 60.000 troops, 250 guns, 175 AFVs, 225 AC.
Axis : 33.000 troops, 394 guns, 22 AFVs, 13 AC.

Pools
Manpower : 437.798
Vehicle : 193.833
Armaments : 181.095
Hiwi : 1.917

Pest control
7 partisans pop up, and 7 are delt with. Atleast with the new line fewer partisans will appear, as we are soon out of the USSR...




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AFV -> RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren (6/3/2012 9:32:48 AM)

I'm curious how he managed 39 attacks in mud?



Tarhunnas -> RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren (6/3/2012 10:06:28 AM)

I must ask - what does the title of this AAR mean? It doesn't look like Russian.



gids -> RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren (6/3/2012 10:25:52 AM)

lol tarhunnas ...read it backwards



terje439 -> RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren (6/3/2012 11:08:05 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: AFV

I'm curious how he managed 39 attacks in mud?


20 [;)]
As I said, I left the Rumanians behind

Terje



terje439 -> RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren (6/3/2012 11:08:52 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Tarhunnas

I must ask - what does the title of this AAR mean? It doesn't look like Russian.


As Gids says, then compare it to my first AAR "Disaster in the making" where I played the USSR [;)]


Terje



Tarhunnas -> RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren (6/3/2012 12:08:09 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: terje439


quote:

ORIGINAL: Tarhunnas

I must ask - what does the title of this AAR mean? It doesn't look like Russian.


As Gids says, then compare it to my first AAR "Disaster in the making" where I played the USSR [;)]


Terje


Ah, I get it, thanks! [:D]



terje439 -> RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren (6/4/2012 3:13:44 PM)

Turn 96

Overall
Well, finally most of our troops arrive at the new line. Now we need to make sure it holds untill next winter, when the rivers once more means nothing. As feared, two infantry divisions are lost during the retreat. Still it could be worse I guess, just ask Napoleon...
The USSR make 11 attacks, scoring 2 helds, 2 retreats, 6 routs and 1 surrender this turn.

Losses
USSR : 47.000 troops, 194 guns, 125 AFVs, 307 AC.
Axis : 42.000 troops, 556 guns, 39 AFVs, 3 AC.

Units lost
2 infantry divisions surrender to the USSR this turn. We simply had no chance to aid them, so it was better to take the loss than to risk more troops in a vain attempt to break them out.

Pools
Manpower : 431.544
Vehicle : 187.961
Armaments : 199.452
Hiwi : 769

Pest control
All 4 partisans are delt with.

Future
What is my main concern now is to hold the new line. However our troops are still worn out, and in several places the fortification level is only 2...





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terje439 -> RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren (6/5/2012 10:04:24 AM)

Turn 97

Overall
Well, the USSR keep attacking the Rumanians that are left behind, and I keep occupying the new line with as many German divisions as possible. There are not enough of them however. Atleast not in proper shape. I now fear that our adjusted defensive CV will not be high enough to delay the USSR for long. If so the next step will have to be defending nothing but Germany itself...
The USSR make 13 attacks, scoring 3 helds, 3 retreats, 5 routs and 2 shatters. The shatters destroys a total of 5 Rumanian units, all extremely weak and understrength.

Losses
USSR : 48.000 troops, 278 guns, 151 AFVs, 263 AC.
Axis : 25.000 troops, 280 guns, 11 AFVs, 14 AC.

Pools
Manpower : 434.902
Vehicle : 186.296
Armaments : 205.917
Hiwi : 722

Pest control
3 partisans are delt with this turn. This is becoming easier and easier as the area they operate in becomes smaller and smaller.




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Banori -> RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren (6/5/2012 10:35:11 AM)

it seems like we say in german " vorwärts Kameraden , wit müssen zurück. or forward Comrades, we must retreat.



terje439 -> RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren (6/5/2012 1:15:51 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Banori

it seems like we say in german " vorwärts Kameraden , wit müssen zurück. or forward Comrades, we must retreat.


Hehe absolutely true here [:D]


Terje



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