RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren (Full Version)

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terje439 -> RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren (8/25/2012 10:30:44 AM)

Typical hex defence



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terje439 -> RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren (8/25/2012 10:31:35 AM)

337th Divisions parent organizations



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terje439 -> RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren (8/25/2012 10:32:17 AM)

Corps/Armies loadouts



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M60A3TTS -> RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren (8/25/2012 12:41:45 PM)

You should be getting a message from Reichsmarschall Goering shortly. Something about negotiating.




terje439 -> RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren (8/26/2012 9:17:34 AM)


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ORIGINAL: M60A3TTS

You should be getting a message from Reichsmarschall Goering shortly. Something about negotiating.


Allready told everyone, we will accept nothing but an unconditional USSR surrender at this point [:D]


Terje




terje439 -> RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren (8/26/2012 9:22:24 AM)

Turn 168

Overall
Well, the USSR keep pushing at Berlin with successive attacks, and although we hold, our forts do not...
Not a good turn, and tbh it is a turn that shows just how fragile the front really is as the USSR push aside our defenders in one hex and pour some units through the gap, We once more manage to reform the line, but this is starting to become a landslide I am afraid.
The 13 USSR attacks resulted in 7 helds and 6 retreats, while our attack scored a retreat.

Losses
USSR : 84.000 troops, 1.096 guns, 310 AFVs, 1.112 AC.
Germany : 43.000 troops, 1.125 guns, 242 AFVs, 91 AC.

Units disbanded
2 fortified zones

German pools
Manpower : 309.538
Vehicles : 364.182
Armaments : 0
Hiwi : 268



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terje439 -> RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren (8/27/2012 3:24:21 PM)

Turn 169

Overall
The USSR keeps on using their superior numbers in making assaults on our line. The 14 attacks they made caused 10 helds and 4 retreats, but it also knocked the fort in Berlin down to 0...

Losses
USSR : 86.000 troops, 1.147 guns, 491 AFVs, 1.446 AC.
Germany : 45.000 troops, 1.120 guns, 363 AFVs, 31 AC.

Units disbanded
3 airfields, 1 SS Cavalry Division and 1 Volksgrenadier division

German pools
Manpower : 386.610
Vehicles : 365.813
Armaments : 0
Hiwi : 1.003




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terje439 -> RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren (8/28/2012 3:11:32 PM)

GAME OVER




terje439 -> RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren (8/28/2012 3:14:23 PM)

Endscreen



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terje439 -> RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren (8/28/2012 3:15:11 PM)

Final losses



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terje439 -> RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren (8/28/2012 3:15:48 PM)

Aerial losses



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terje439 -> RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren (8/28/2012 3:16:18 PM)

Axis units lost



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terje439 -> RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren (8/28/2012 3:16:43 PM)

USSR units lost



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Tophat1815 -> RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren (8/28/2012 3:16:53 PM)

Congrats on going the distance in a forlorn hope till the bitter end. Major reason why I so enjoy your aar's,you give it everything and go out swinging.




terje439 -> RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren (8/28/2012 3:17:39 PM)

OOB USSR view (only to allow a view of the numbers remaining on each side)



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terje439 -> RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren (8/28/2012 3:18:29 PM)

The final turn
Seems the USSR only needed the hex named Berlin, not the other two...




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terje439 -> RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren (8/28/2012 3:18:59 PM)

What we were up against in the end...



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terje439 -> RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren (8/28/2012 3:19:47 PM)

Detailed German losses #1



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terje439 -> RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren (8/28/2012 3:20:17 PM)

Detailed German losses #2



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terje439 -> RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren (8/28/2012 3:20:56 PM)

Detailed German losses #3





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terje439 -> RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren (8/28/2012 3:22:32 PM)

Detailed German losses #4



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terje439 -> RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren (8/28/2012 3:22:59 PM)

Detailed USSR losses #1



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terje439 -> RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren (8/28/2012 3:23:34 PM)

Detailed USSR losses #2



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terje439 -> RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren (8/28/2012 3:24:06 PM)

Detailed USSR losses #3



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terje439 -> RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren (8/28/2012 3:24:35 PM)

Detailed USSR losses #4



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terje439 -> RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren (8/28/2012 3:25:35 PM)

German pools at the end of the German phase #1



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terje439 -> RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren (8/28/2012 3:26:09 PM)

German pools at the end of the German phase #2



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terje439 -> RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren (8/28/2012 3:26:32 PM)

German pools at the end of the German phase #3




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terje439 -> RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren (8/28/2012 3:27:22 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Tophat1812

Congrats on going the distance in a forlorn hope till the bitter end. Major reason why I so enjoy your aar's,you give it everything and go out swinging.


Thank you [&o]
No reason for not fighting it out, only lacked 11 months for a draw [:D]


Terje




terje439 -> RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, No Oloren (8/28/2012 3:36:14 PM)

Summary

First of all, thanks are in order;
-Oloren for once more kicking my ass [:D] I enjoy our games even if I do take a beating, and your replies are on time every day.
-All of you, thank you for boosting the views on this one up to 22k+

[&o][&o][&o][&o][&o][&o][&o]

So, a year by year summary as I remember them, might not be entirely on the mark, but...
1941 - I prove that I am certainly no panzer commander, then the blizzard tore me a new one.
1942 - I try to regain the initiative, but to no avail, and both sides start to dig in.
1943 - We are slowly pushed back, and try to make some stands, but the initiative is now firmly in USSR hands
1944 - It is all about preparing the last stand at the Oder-Line. We held it longer than anticipated, but in the end, numbers won the day.


Why did I fail
1. Oloren outfought me
2. Not enough attention to some details
3. Had no idea what I was doing in Blizzard
4. And this is a big one, I wanted an "uber-pocket", a pocket that would collapse the entire USSR front. I should have gone for fewer smaller ones.

What did annoy me the most?
Although I realize that some consents must be made, there are some things I do not like;
-no defender bonus for a frozen river. Really?!
-imo engineers should bleed alot heavier when taking on a fortified zone. A level 4 fort, and the attackers take 5.000 men in casualties, imo atleast half should be engineers, as those are the ones likely to be at the front.
-the withdrawals. This is something I dislike about Witp:AE as well. With the USSR outside Berlin, there is imo no way that the Wehrmacht would send their best formations to Normandie...

What needs to be looked at
The numbers in this game, they simply do not add up at times, there is someting strange there...



Terje




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