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Bullwinkle58 -> RE: Operation Thrym (5/26/2013 9:09:22 PM)
My vote would be he's doing a top-to-bottom economy re-look, with a view to cutting to the bare minimums, further reducing the ship build, and reorienting his aircraft industires to get rerady for the kami era. He may also be working out ways to march out of Burma toward supply sources in Malaysia and Indochina.

JocMeister -> RE: Operation Thrym (5/27/2013 7:38:10 PM)
Might be, but so far he hasn´t shown any tendencies towards withdrawing south in Burma. He might be somewhat low on supply but so far I have seen no signs of it being bad enough to warrant a withdrawal. He can probably draw it pretty effortless over the yellow roads from Thailand. I hope you are right though. I´m sick of Burma. I want to see Thailand! [:D]

JocMeister -> RE: Operation Thrym (5/27/2013 7:43:39 PM)
Replay Erik uploaded the replay but I asked him to hold off the turn until Wednesday as I will be swamped in the coming days. Some good allied news though! I absolutely SMASHED the CAP at Sorong this turn. In a stroke of luck my Sweeps coordinated and 100 P47s hit the base. I think the score will land around 80-5 in allied favor. Erik had no daylight CAP up at Hong Kong! [:'(] 60 LI hits probably means its smashed down to zero. Hard to tell if my invasion TFs were spotted or not without seeing the turn file. I´ll know on Wednesday!

JocMeister -> RE: Operation Thrym (5/29/2013 5:45:56 PM)
No Turn today Well I got the turn but I won´t have time for it tonight. This week is just killing me. [:(] I hope I´ll have time for the turn and an update tomorrow.

JocMeister -> RE: Operation Thrym (5/30/2013 6:32:20 PM)
5th July -44 I did manage to get Erik a turn yesterday just before bed. Erik also sent another back to me but I get the "failed to load" message. But I did see the replay. New Guinea I was a bit too optimistic about the Sorong sweep. While not 80-5 it was still 48-3. Not too shabby! But I did loose a triple ace which stings a bit. The follow sweeps did well too. Erik moved a lot of fighters in though so I did take losses. Not sure about the exact losses yet though. He also moved in A LOT of MTBs at Sorong. So I´ll need to kill them off as quickly as possible. I will send in some of the Fletcher TFs to clear the way. I ordered another attack at Nabire that went horrible wrong. quote: Ground combat at Nabire (86,114) Allied Deliberate attack Attacking force 11685 troops, 227 guns, 139 vehicles, Assault Value = 420 Defending force 6002 troops, 44 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 176 Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 1 Allied adjusted assault: 148 [:(] Japanese adjusted defense: 475 Allied assault odds: 1 to 3 (fort level 1) Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), experience(-) Attacker: leaders(-) What the HECK? [&:] Attached a screen with his stats. Japanese ground losses: 368 casualties reported Squads: 4 destroyed, 42 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled) Allied ground losses: 205 casualties reported Squads: 2 destroyed, 66 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled Guns lost 10 (1 destroyed, 9 disabled) At Aitape there are better news and the base will be in allied hands very shortly. Burma WOW! Moulmein landing is cancelled. [X(] Never got such a faulty intel from recon before. There are now 15 units and 56.000 troops listed there. No way Erik could have moved that in over just a turn so it must have been my intel. I sent the TFs back to Ramree. I´m going to start some flanking movements here instead. Erik has a long border to cover and supply isn´t an issue. I need to keep him from withdrawing troops. I have seen some troop movements towards the south. Darwin/OZ/DEI Loading is taking forever. Probably loaded this turn though. Going by the replay Erik still has the usual 5-6 SCTF in the area and seems to have kept them there rather than sending them towards Sorong. I am a bit weak here on surface power. Hopefully Fletchers will prevail. I´ll try to send them in in advance of the landing to clear the way. Marianas My CVE TF detected some pickets last turn which probably blew their cover and this turn they were definitely picked up by search. I also had 2 of my subs stationed NW of the Marianas getting attacked 10+ times by Jills. Is this the KB?! [X(] If so I have little chance of getting the troops on shore. I´ll hold back and send in some more subs I have in the area. Thrym Well, the cover is certainly blown. Erik picked me up right outside Sarmi on the 5th already. I guess its pretty much impossible to hid 400 ships that close. A lot of subs is between me and Sorong. I have the usual ASW cover up but I fear he will nail a CV or two as usual [:(] [image]local://upfiles/32406/6EF203A3FB784D33ACA92E49097ADC60.jpg[/image]

JocMeister -> RE: Operation Thrym (5/30/2013 7:13:55 PM)
[sm=character0229.gif] Idiot Alert [sm=character0229.gif] Never have two copies of the turn. Was a bit confused when I watched the replay. Now I know why some things were very odd. I started working on the turn last night when I was interrupted so I saved in another slot than the usual one. But when I came back a few hour later I opened the wrong one. So basically everything I did in NG, OZ, CENTPAC and the US were never done in the turn file I sent to Erik. Cost me 20 P47s, another triple ace and 4 double aces. The DEI invasion never left port. 30 minutes of pilot fiddling was in vain. 20 minutes of sub fiddling was also in vain. Two TFs at Finschhafen never stopped loading so its now completely drained of supply. ARRRHG! [sm=00000734.gif]

Bullwinkle58 -> RE: Operation Thrym (5/30/2013 7:43:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JocMeister [sm=character0229.gif] Idiot Alert [sm=character0229.gif] Never have two copies of the turn. Was a bit confused when I watched the replay. Now I know why some things were very odd. I started working on the turn last night when I was interrupted so I saved in another slot than the usual one. But when I came back a few hour later I opened the wrong one. So basically everything I did in NG, OZ, CENTPAC and the US were never done in the turn file I sent to Erik. Cost me 20 P47s, another triple ace and 4 double aces. The DEI invasion never left port. 30 minutes of pilot fiddling was in vain. 20 minutes of sub fiddling was also in vain. Two TFs at Finschhafen never stopped loading so its now completely drained of supply. ARRRHG! [sm=00000734.gif] I have the Real Save in slot 15. Slot 10 is called "Interim Save" for those times you have to leave it and come back. Which only works if you come back and re-load slot 10. [:)] IOW, a permanent Interim isn't idiot-proof either.

JocMeister -> RE: Operation Thrym (5/30/2013 8:12:48 PM)
Yeah, kind of the same system I have. I use the "interim" for the AAR too. Screenshots and whatnot. I think I will scratch that and use only one save from now on. Could have ended a lot worse! [:D]

JocMeister -> RE: Operation Thrym (5/31/2013 8:45:48 PM)
6th-7th July -44 So, the big day finally arrived. Good thing I´m slightly drunk on some fantastic Swedish ale called Oppigårds Amarillo! [:D] The big focus on the coming days will be on Thrym but I´ll give a short recap on anything else of importance that happens. Burma 4 days of appalling weather allowed Rangoon to reopen. To my surprise Erik moved fighters in there. Why? I can sweep only 3 hexes away from Prome a now level 9 AF with 1400 AS. 250 P47s will sweep tomorrow. Second cycle is 140 Corsairs and 75 P51Ds followed by a third cycle of some 150 Spit VII + Tbolts. This is just giving away kills for me. No idea why he did that but thank you! [:)] Darwin I decided to withdraw with the invasion. I don´t want to risk the troops. But I did order some Fletcher into Timor to see if I can catch any of his SCTFs in the area. I also set a massive naval strike on 9 hexes. Some 300 2Es, 200 DBs and 100 TBs all in all. If he moves in with his SCTF it could get nasty for him. Thrym We reached the launch point! No losses so far. Jap losses are 3 subs the last turn. My sweeps ordered for Sorong didn´t take off. It doesn´t matter now. If he leaves the planes at Sorong they will get blasted during the naval bombardment. 5 BBs will bombard during the night. I ordered all sweeps to stand down to not interfere with the LRCAP. A Fletcher TF cleared the way last turn and Sorong is empty of enemy shipping. 3 TFs will unload during the night. See screenshot for details. Of the 3 assault I think the Waigeo is most likely to instantly succeed. I have some 500 AV landing against only 4 units. Mostly tanks and a very experienced OZ Brigade. Sorong will fall eventually but I don´t think it will be quick. It doesn´t matter. I only need one base. All in all I think some 2200 planes are concentrated in the Sorong area next turn. I´m hoping my CVs will be like strike sponges sucking in his strike leaving the assault shipping in peace. In a sense Erik has already lost this battle by allowing my assault shipping to get within range. Unless he can intervene with SCTFs during the night the troops are onshore and I have won this round. Puh. I´m very, very nervous. I sent the turn to Erik who will upload the replay as soon as he can. Doubt I will get the turn tonight and if I do I won´t be able to do it until tomorrow. KB I´m fairly certain KB is still around the Marianas. Got some heave DL on the subs in the area. But nothing definitive. I wrote this to Erik "If this doesn´t turn out to be the bloodiest day of the war so far I´ll be surprised. Big question is. Will we have a CV battle?! He responded with: Woohooo!!! Let em rip!! Thats not very comforting! [:D] Good think I´m slightly drunk! [image]local://upfiles/32406/5F2DFE58BC884924A16C236672F075FB.jpg[/image]

JocMeister -> RE: Operation Thrym (5/31/2013 9:45:16 PM)
Kind of anticlimatic! Short update before bed. Not a single airstrike against the Thrym forces. [X(] The Fletcher TF sent in to Timor took a major beating though and I most likely most of them (12 DD TF). They did take some Jap DDs with them though. They fought well but were sunk by air during the day. My LRCAP didn´t show up for some reason. [:(] Erik probably lost 2-3 DDs and will have to send 2BBs and a CA to fix minor damage. I also manage to plant 2 TTs into a Jap BB at Tinian. KB is definitely spotted EAST! [X(] of the Marianas and completely out of the picture! Good news! [:)] quote: Sub attack near Tinian at 108,94 Japanese Ships BB Hyuga, Torpedo hits 2, heavy damage BB Mutsu DD Kisaragi DD Mutsuki Allied Ships SS Jack My Sweep absolutely SMASHED Erik CAP at Rangoon. My first sweep took some damage. quote: Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 45,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 11 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 152 Ki-84a Frank x 38 Allied aircraft P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 25 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 6 destroyed Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses P-47D2 Thunderbolt: 3 destroyed Aircraft Attacking: 5 x P-47D2 Thunderbolt sweeping at 42000 feet This is followed by sweep after sweep of this: [sm=00000028.gif] quote: Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid detected at 19 NM, estimated altitude 46,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 5 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 136 Ki-84a Frank x 36 Allied aircraft P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 22 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 7 destroyed Ki-84a Frank: 6 destroyed Allied aircraft losses P-47D25 Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed quote: Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid detected at 49 NM, estimated altitude 45,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 14 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 68 Ki-84a Frank x 18 Allied aircraft P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 25 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 11 destroyed Ki-84a Frank: 4 destroyed Allied aircraft losses P-47D25 Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed That is why you sweep, sweep and sweep. No LRCAP and crap. Sweep, sweep sweep. Thrym Here is the opposition faced at Sorong area: This one won´t work. I took a chance there were only 2 BFs here. quote: Ground combat at Sansapor (83,107) Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 2623 troops, 16 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 155 Defending force 892 troops, 0 guns, 125 vehicles, Assault Value = 64 Assaulting units: 1st Mobile Brigade 31st Engineer Regiment Defending units: 2nd USMC Tank Battalion quote: Ground combat at Sorong (82,107) Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 9807 troops, 93 guns, 16 vehicles, Assault Value = 632 Defending force 22799 troops, 431 guns, 516 vehicles, Assault Value = 888 Japanese ground losses: 114 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled) Allied ground losses: 21 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Assaulting units: 8th Garrison Unit 45th Ind.Mixed Brigade 2nd Amphibious Brigade 5th Garrison Unit 44th Naval Guard Unit 37th JAAF AF Bn 13th Air Fleet 3rd JNAF AF Unit 16th Garrison Unit /2 Defending units: 6th Infantry Division 671th Tank Destroyer Battalion 25th Infantry Division 3rd USMC Tank Battalion I US Corps This one will work. While it might look like I will need to slug it out for a while I´m hopeful it will be quick work. I have a Corps and Command HQ fully prepped. All troops are also 100% prepped. I have almost 100 Shermans with me. Erik is again relying on small units that don´t have the staying power. Two powerful naval bombardments will go in next turn and if needed the CV fleet will add a massive blow. Waigo didn´t even do a counter bombardment attack. Don´t know why? Is all the combat troops there disabled after this? Only 52nd Naval Guard Unit and 43rd Recon Regiment found here. I will capture the base next turn. Huzzah! [&o] quote: Pre-Invasion action off Waigeo (82,106) Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force 18 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Allied Ships DD Izard DD Hazelwood DD Haraden DD Albert Grant DD Evans DD Callaghan DD Bennion LCI(G)-82 LCI(G)-81 LCI(G)-80 LCI(G)-79 LCI(G)-78 LCI(G)-77 LCI(G)-76 APA Knox DD Knapp Japanese ground losses: 537 casualties reported BOOM![sm=00000028.gif] Squads: 0 destroyed, 48 disabled BOOM! [sm=00000028.gif] Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 18 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Stay tuned for more! [8D]

JocMeister -> RE: Operation Thrym (6/1/2013 7:12:35 AM)
Rangoon Turkey Shoot 169 enemy planes are shot down for the cost of 15 P47s. Quite happy with that. Sad news is that another triple ace went MIA after the raid. But I gained 2 new ones! [:)] I hope this was a clear message that open airfield or not the Allies rule the airspace over Rangoon. Battle of Lautem. Sadly all but one of the Fletchers are sunk after the battle. [:(] None of the LRCAP flew for unknown reasons. Weather was light rain, settings correct. A shame. [:(] I´m glad I sent the invasion TF back as I don´t think I would have been able to unload during the night. Perhaps the loss of the Fletcher TF can be justified by the fact that Erik sent all strike AC here and nothing against the main landings at Sorong. Thrym The Waigeo troops will attack next turn while the Sorong forces will need 1-2 days of resting before the first attack. Don´t know why but they are quite fatigued after the landing. Base forces are already in place at Sarmi and can quickly be shuttled in once a base falls. The Tank Battalion at Sansapor will dig in for now. So far the losses for Operation Thrym Phase 2 are none besides some Search AC shot down. Everything went flawlessly! [:)] Here is a screen of the AC losses. [image]local://upfiles/32406/BDFE59DF59F34D58B4DCFD4E78327CB4.jpg[/image]

JocMeister -> RE: Operation Thrym (6/1/2013 7:27:14 AM)
KB Here is a screen of KBs position. Completely out of position and unable to interfere with Thrym. [&o] Wake is placed on high alert and 350 Fighters are alerted. I have a Tanker TF unloading there. I´ll stop the unloading and withdraw them a bit. Its unlikely Erik will make a full speed run for Wake but better safe than sorry! Perhaps Erik believes KB won´t be able to stand up against the combined Allied CV fleet or he places greater value on the Marianas then I do? For me thats still a sideshow for fun while the Allied advance towards the Philippines continue. Marianas will be secured before 44 is up. Main reason for this is to secure a LOC through the Pacific to the Philippines. As a matter of fact 3800 AV is prepping for Saipan and Guam right now. [image]local://upfiles/32406/D68CA679FE204795868ED649745AC982.jpg[/image]

JocMeister -> RE: Operation Thrym (6/1/2013 8:35:23 AM)
More Allied toys Nice "little" tank unit. [&o][:D] [image]local://upfiles/32406/07ACA8CFCC9F4C2ABC318D2508C5CB29.jpg[/image]

JocMeister -> RE: Operation Thrym (6/1/2013 10:27:16 AM)
Operation Thrym update [image]local://upfiles/32406/DFA98CEF0D284C96BA6E4B4428B77734.jpg[/image]

JocMeister -> RE: Operation Thrym (6/1/2013 1:09:31 PM)
Airwar While I have inflicted quite heavy casualties on the IJ air force over the last few weeks things are starting to look dire for the USAAF pools. This is an ongoing problem throughout the game. But at no point is it as problematic as this period. Right now I´m only getting 30 P51Bs and 80 P38Ls for the entire USAAF. Even the utterly useless P40 has stopped producing by now. This at a time when the empire is producing something like 1500-2000 planes PER MONTH. And don´t let the JFBs cries about lots of airframes arriving via reinforcements fool you. Between 11/43 and 11/44 you get 75 P47s and 50 P51Ds. So thats an additional 10 aircraft per month...[8\|] Right now I have around 820 P47s and 100 P51s including the airframes on map. While that sounds like plenty it needs to last until 11/44 when the P51D kicks in with 120 planes per month. Thats 4 months away and I need to plan accordingly. I have 450 P47s in the pool and they need to last. That means I need to cut down on offensive OPS conducted by the USAAF. That means the USAAF involvement in Burma will change from now on. I will be a lot less aggressive with USAAF planes. The RAF will have to take a bigger part which is hard with the small 16 plane units. P38s have pretty much run their course by now and can´t be relied on for air superiority. They will be piloted by freshly combat trained pilots (50/70/70). I won´t waste my 80+ pilots in them. Recents test show I still come out on top with roughly 2:1 against Jap fighters on long range sweep. This indicates Erik might be starting to suffer a bit on the pilot front. [image]local://upfiles/32406/6F22C4E56B9947608F2A7846887E8346.jpg[/image]

JocMeister -> RE: Operation Thrym (6/1/2013 1:10:38 PM)
Top pilots [image]local://upfiles/32406/470503AA9D904D2C8C01816602208E78.jpg[/image]

House Stark -> RE: Operation Thrym (6/1/2013 6:48:12 PM)
Glad to see that Thrym is off to a good start! Pity about the Fletchers, but you can afford to occasionally trade DDs at a 3-1 rate, considering that you get at least twice as many as he does from the US Navy alone. I've got a couple thoughts about the fighter pools issue. First, the Brits get about 100 Tbolts/Spits/Corsairs, so that's probably enough to keep up the fighting in Burma with occasional USAAF involvement. Where are your New Zealand and Australian fighter groups? I believe those start getting some first rate fighters sometime in 1944; they might be good in Burma or to support your DEI/New Guinea advance. And how are your US Navy fighter and pilot pools? You get 180 of a slightly better Hellcat starting in July, and 158 Corsairs starting in September. I don't know if you're using them on the front lines or for training, but those fighter groups from the carriers you lost early in the war do provide some nasty sweeps with their 36 plane size.

BBfanboy -> RE: Operation Thrym (6/1/2013 9:19:52 PM)
Your Operation Thrym is taking place in the same area Adm. Spruance has been fighting in his AAR. He just took Morotai and has had bloody battles in several of the other bases in North NG and surrounding islands. His opponent reinforced heavily by air. Might be worthwhile for you to review what he did and how it worked out.

JocMeister -> RE: Operation Thrym (6/1/2013 10:04:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: House Stark Glad to see that Thrym is off to a good start! Pity about the Fletchers, but you can afford to occasionally trade DDs at a 3-1 rate, considering that you get at least twice as many as he does from the US Navy alone. I've got a couple thoughts about the fighter pools issue. First, the Brits get about 100 Tbolts/Spits/Corsairs, so that's probably enough to keep up the fighting in Burma with occasional USAAF involvement. Where are your New Zealand and Australian fighter groups? I believe those start getting some first rate fighters sometime in 1944; they might be good in Burma or to support your DEI/New Guinea advance. And how are your US Navy fighter and pilot pools? You get 180 of a slightly better Hellcat starting in July, and 158 Corsairs starting in September. I don't know if you're using them on the front lines or for training, but those fighter groups from the carriers you lost early in the war do provide some nasty sweeps with their 36 plane size. Thank you. I´m pretty pleased so far. Easy to do this kind of stuff where there is no opposition! [:D] Problem with the RAF is that while their pools are actually pretty good they really suffer from the tiny squadron sizes. They are almost impossible to use in an offensive role. But you make a good point. I should find a way to use them more actively. Perhaps I can start using them for offensive LRCAP. All the non perm restricted RAAF and NZ fighter squadrons are fighting in New Guinea. The OZ squadrons have been invaluable with their Spit VII! When they resized to 24 they became even more useful. I have just upgraded to NZ squadrons to Corsairs. But they are small squadrons with only 15 planes making them mostly useful for CAP and LRCAP. Navy pools are suffering a bit too I am afraid. Corsair pool is almost empty after I upgraded to 40 plane CV squadrons. I do have some 200 Hellcats still in the pool. As you say the new version of it just started producing and when the Corsairs get bumped to 158 the Navy can really start doing some attrition! But for now I have to watch the pools very carefully. All 6 of the CV squadrons from the lost CVs are fighting on the frontline. They resized to 42 recently making them killer sweepers as you say! [&o] When I can upgrade them to Corsairs Erik is going to be in a world of hurt! [:D]

JocMeister -> RE: Operation Thrym (6/1/2013 10:04:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BBfanboy Your Operation Thrym is taking place in the same area Adm. Spruance has been fighting in his AAR. He just took Morotai and has had bloody battles in several of the other bases in North NG and surrounding islands. His opponent reinforced heavily by air. Might be worthwhile for you to review what he did and how it worked out. Thanks for the tip! I´ll check it out. [:)]

JocMeister -> RE: Operation Thrym (6/2/2013 8:27:36 AM)
9th-10th July -44 After the Turkey shoot over Rangoon things quiet down. Thrym As expected Waigeo falls instantly on the 9th! quote: Ground combat at Waigeo (82,106) Allied Deliberate attack Attacking force 10102 troops, 176 guns, 171 vehicles, Assault Value = 416 Defending force 1868 troops, 23 guns, 20 vehicles, Assault Value = 55 Allied adjusted assault: 261 Japanese adjusted defense: 3 Allied assault odds: 87 to 1 (fort level 3) Allied forces CAPTURE Waigeo !!! Combat modifiers Defender: forts(+), fatigue(-), experience(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 766 casualties reported Squads: 88 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 48 destroyed, 30 disabled Engineers: 13 destroyed, 4 disabled Guns lost 29 (28 destroyed, 1 disabled) Vehicles lost 21 (21 destroyed, 0 disabled) Units destroyed 1 Allied ground losses: 204 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 13 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled So this means that even if Sorong becomes a drawn out affair we can move forward. Due to the fact that KB was spotted again completely out of position between Wake and Marianas [X(] I decided to instantly reload one of the Amphibs with BFs and Engineers for Waigeo. I also have two LST TFs picking up more arty for Sorong and Noemfoor. This will be a small operation in itself. -Deliver BFs to Waigo -Deliver Arty to Sorong -More Naval bombardment of Sorong After that I will try the first deliberate attack of Sorong. Fingers crossed the Tanks and HQ prepp will make it quick work. Following a hunch I exchanged A. Noble of the 2nd Marine division. This was the result. quote: Ground combat at Nabire (86,114) Allied Deliberate attack Attacking force 11367 troops, 226 guns, 139 vehicles, Assault Value = 378 Defending force 5460 troops, 50 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 146 Allied adjusted assault: 334 Japanese adjusted defense: 76 Allied assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 1) Allied forces CAPTURE Nabire !!! Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), preparation(-), experience(-) Attacker: leaders(+) This is a worse leader then Noble! [X(] Bug? Japanese ground losses: 1607 casualties reported Squads: 74 destroyed, 14 disabled Non Combat: 77 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 11 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 19 (15 destroyed, 4 disabled) Units retreated 5 Allied ground losses: 106 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 21 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled Guns lost 5 (1 destroyed, 4 disabled) I´m starting to think something might be bugged with Noble? Should I post in the tech support? Now I only need to secure Noemfoor to complete phase 1 of Thrym! The 4Es will lend a hand here and I hope the extra arty will help out. Troops are recovering a lot better now that I landed more support. Fatigue is down under 20 and disruption is completely gone! New Guinea Frantic shipping of troops, supply and fuel. I have some 200 xAKs and xAPs hauling stuff forward. Aitape finally fell! [&o] quote: Ground combat at Aitape (95,118) Allied Deliberate attack Attacking force 34530 troops, 703 guns, 760 vehicles, Assault Value = 1284 Defending force 10932 troops, 131 guns, 22 vehicles, Assault Value = 170 Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 1 Allied adjusted assault: 585 Japanese adjusted defense: 105 Allied assault odds: 5 to 1 (fort level 1) Allied forces CAPTURE Aitape !!! Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), fatigue(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 3692 casualties reported Squads: 147 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 191 destroyed, 29 disabled Engineers: 123 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 55 (54 destroyed, 1 disabled) Vehicles lost 23 (23 destroyed, 0 disabled) Units retreated 4 Allied ground losses: 192 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 19 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 10 disabled Engineers: 2 destroyed, 50 disabled Just moving in a small BF with an infantry Battalion for protection. I thought Erik would sucide his troops but it looks like they are moving towards Vanimo. I have an ID at Wewak that will attack shortly. Hollandia and Vanimo will be completely bypassed. Burma Erik is moving a lot of troops South. Perhaps he has finally realised just how exposed he is in the DEI and Philippines. I don´t wan´t him to move out too much so I´m going to start shifting troops fast. I´ll leave 2000 AV at his blocking position while shifting the best troops East and firstly secure Toungoo and then start flanking east down towards Thailand. Hopefully supply won´t be a problem. This gives me a lot more room to maneuver and Erik will either have to withdraw into Thailand or risk getting everything around Rangoon cut off. I´ve started pumping up the Supply at Ramree again. I want to try and fill up central Burma with more supply. I currently have someting like 400.000 supply in Burma but most is at Ramree (100k) and Prome (200k). I will try and get some 500k into central Burma alone to help supply my main stack as it moves E/SE. KB I wonder what Erik saw here? I didn´t get any DL on any of my TFs but he moved deeper into the Pacific. [image]local://upfiles/32406/FFBF605C7E2D4552A34E693985EE6282.jpg[/image]

JocMeister -> RE: Operation Thrym (6/2/2013 8:35:32 AM)
Burma [image]local://upfiles/32406/947D32A32FD9440D9D9044041B445AC9.jpg[/image]

BBfanboy -> RE: Operation Thrym (6/2/2013 4:26:54 PM)
quote: KB I wonder what Erik saw here? I didn´t get any DL on any of my TFs but he moved deeper into the Pacific. Perhaps one of your carrier aircraft was seen by a sub or one of his TFs? Or maybe he is sending an amphib TF to Wake? Or a raid on PH? He has to be itching to try something to throw you off your steamroller!

JocMeister -> RE: Operation Thrym (6/2/2013 8:03:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BBfanboy Perhaps one of your carrier aircraft was seen by a sub or one of his TFs? Or maybe he is sending an amphib TF to Wake? Or a raid on PH? He has to be itching to try something to throw you off your steamroller! Might be! KB has turned around though and is presently NW of the Marianas so no need to cover the rear areas. Good news! [:)]

JocMeister -> RE: Operation Thrym (6/2/2013 8:18:39 PM)
11th-12th July -44 Not much to report. Actually almost no combat at all besides Eriks bombings of Tinian. He has managed to bump up the AF damage to 22. But he is losing 8-10 AC per turn in OPS losses. I like that! [:D] I found some interesting sigint today. quote: 5/18th Tank Regiment is loaded on xAKL Ryuun Maru moving to Truk. I´m pretty sure he isn´t reinforcing Truk. Is he pulling out the fragments left in the Solomons/Marshalls? Why? Moving anything out from Truk by sea is almost impossible without being detected and there is no way in hell I would allow him to ship out the 50.000 troops caught there. Ideas what he is up to? Thrym Here is an update on the progress of Thrym. [image]local://upfiles/32406/7E085DFDDBC04090AC426A04CFD1168B.jpg[/image]

Nemo121 -> RE: Operation Thrym (6/2/2013 9:35:38 PM)
JocMeister, You have 5,000 AV sitting around "guarding" stuff in Burma. Why isn't it pressing forward along suppliable axes making progress and, at the least, grinding IJA formations down - drawing replacements away from other fronts? That 5,000 AV could be doing a LOT of good instead of just wasting supplies there.

DOCUP -> RE: Operation Thrym (6/3/2013 3:47:54 AM)
Keep up the good work. Glad to see that your happy with the game. Start pounding on him in Burma make him use supplies both their and HI.

BBfanboy -> RE: Operation Thrym (6/3/2013 1:51:16 PM)
That sigint on the tank regiment could mean he is trying to bring out fragments to rebuild the units. I'm sure he knows that he will not be able to move out the whole 50K. I presume he cannot reach the cut-off troops by Emily or Mavis?

Bullwinkle58 -> RE: Operation Thrym (6/3/2013 2:04:00 PM)
I have to second what Nemo said. In the flow here it will get quickly forgotten in the midst of "blow stuff up!" posts, but I urge you to take some time and think about what he said. In 1944-45 the Allied player simply must become aware of the Japanese economy and its pressure points. You have the OOB to win; now you have to grind the life out of him. ONE armament point costs him 6 HI points--a good piece of a fighter plane. To replace one squad lost costs him 1 armament point plus Manpower. Destroyed guns are even more expensive; they're the load cost in arms points and Manpower points. So grinding on him in Burma, and in China where you can (Chinese infantry, with supply, can really eat up Japanese squads in 1944), has more far-reaching consequences than just local AV effects. You're destroying his ability to make air defense at home, to force him to slow down his Home Island defense prep to pay pilot taxes. To really have to allocate his fuel to keep the HI points flowing as he must make more and more armament and vehicle points or see his front-line units hollowed out. Burma's job in the game can be what it was in RL. A bleeder. The war wasn't won in Burma, but the investments Japan made there cost them a lot. Grind him down. You'll be happy you did once you're at the doorstep of Honshu.

Cpt Sherwood -> RE: Operation Thrym (6/3/2013 4:09:58 PM)
Add another echo. You have to apply pressure everywhere you can.

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