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HITMAN202 -> RE: last good one (12/11/2012 11:30:54 PM)

A question about the above turn 51 map of AGS. Why would the Germans leave single divisions adjacent to 2 hexes stacked with Soviets ??? They will get killed !!! Most Mp's would have been expended by the Germans in major attacks, so the likelihood of reserve activation or activation by a strong unit would be less. It seems to be a major no no. ????



cpt flam -> RE: last good one (12/13/2012 5:16:16 AM)

time for a quick update as I am late
turn 52
keeping a threat on Kaluga & Tula
this week losses are
29 310 / 74 850 men
545 / 1 390 art
206 / 333 afv
151 245 air

[image]local://upfiles/37270/FCA16DEF79154CEB9B87F2E2A420E7E3.jpg[/image]



cpt flam -> RE: last good one (12/13/2012 5:28:23 AM)

you are right Hitman another mistake
furthermore south would like much more panzer

german pool
87 580 men
206 300 veh
290 291 arm
17 hiwis

[image]local://upfiles/37270/6B731FB2D4554847A7CF6308DB8D2319.jpg[/image]



cpt flam -> RE: last good one (12/14/2012 4:18:04 PM)

6/18
push continue
pool
76 215 men
207 700 veh
249 079 arm
17 hiwis

[image]local://upfiles/37270/D486BDCE825A4E0F8E204C1C4DF3B2C1.jpg[/image]



cpt flam -> RE: last good one (12/14/2012 4:25:02 PM)

Italy is proud to send 8 Army [;)]
russian routs are reserve activated

losses from the turn
33 400 / 59 660 men
730 / 1 040 art
113 / 116 afv
95 / 242 aircraft

[image]local://upfiles/37270/7B2A2E3B24D647F8AEADEE540CDC6C33.jpg[/image]



morvael -> RE: last good one (12/14/2012 10:23:33 PM)

When I calculate losses at the end of turn I arrive at different numbers. For example on the turn above I lost 334 tanks and you lost 348 (a rare occurence). In planes it was usual: 330 vs 99.



cpt flam -> RE: last good one (12/15/2012 10:45:09 AM)

turn 54
fight continue to rage
losses are as specified in F2
you may have damage in your total

pool
66 700 men
206 100 veh
184 781 arm
3 hi
all is in decline

[image]local://upfiles/37270/ED4EF3131383423F81D67461824AE621.jpg[/image]



cpt flam -> test of will ! (12/15/2012 10:49:49 AM)

and my nightmare for a long time
losses
25 230 / 52 510 men
520 / 935 art
133 / 257 afv
113 / 267 air (at least 10 reco each turn)

[image]local://upfiles/37270/2AC59B9998AC47098831888D5986C7C2.jpg[/image]



morvael -> RE: test of will ! (12/15/2012 12:40:37 PM)

I have posted a PDF a few posts ago with detailed losses. I calculate them at the end of turn (so after your and mine movement and combat) and arrive at those numbers by substracting last turn permanent total losses from current turn permanent total losses. This is the accurate loss number, I think (one that does not take reinforcements and replacements into account, as you would have when calculating from OOB changes). The current turn losses column is not very good as it resets too many times during a turn.

What is your nightmare in the previous post?

For your entertainment: your busy bees (recon planes) killed Bryansk Front commander, Meretskov. I have new idea for cheaply changing bad leaders, I will move their HQs close to the front, so they can be killed :-)



cpt flam -> RE: test of will ! (12/16/2012 11:04:37 AM)

it will reset only once [:'(]
each turn i begin in commander report
then converting some rail
at this time losses have been set to 0 for new turn



cpt flam -> RE: test of will ! (12/20/2012 12:26:45 PM)

july 2
good time is gone away
you can see 18 Moto division still routed

pools
49 870 men
204 900 veh
143 407 arm (-40 k)
12 hiwis

[image]local://upfiles/37270/CDF79D2401284A409D32809F4336B590.jpg[/image]



cpt flam -> RE: test of will ! (12/20/2012 12:33:32 PM)

not knowing if useful to continue attacks in the south
"many rivers to cross" and forts 2 or 3

this week losses
16 640 / 40 990 men
375 / 710 art
107 / 318 afv
115 / 261 aircraft

[image]local://upfiles/37270/5637D4F795624B68A20917D4DB20CA28.jpg[/image]



morvael -> RE: test of will ! (12/20/2012 12:53:41 PM)

At the end of my turn the losses (calculated end-to-end of turn) were as follows (Soviet vs Axis):

killed 22 363 vs 19 364
captured 1 615 vs 225
disabled 48 956 vs 12 365
guns 1 252 vs 683
afvs 400 vs 188
aircraft 349 vs 125



cpt flam -> RE: test of will ! (12/22/2012 8:05:01 AM)

turn 56
picture of how things are going

losses this week
axis 13 400 men, 265 art, 68 afv & 196 AC
URSS 31 410 " ", 620 " ", 106 "" & 333 AC

[image]local://upfiles/37270/AB6103F50217469487501A8F26992A26.jpg[/image]



cpt flam -> RE: test of will ! (12/22/2012 8:08:33 AM)

OOB so much for so few of us

pools
42 330 men
205 000 veh
123 343 arm
7 hiwis

[image]local://upfiles/37270/4F2CE00961DA4CE4922154D04F917A98.jpg[/image]



morvael -> RE: test of will ! (12/22/2012 1:34:42 PM)

Another general killed by passing recon planes...



cpt flam -> RE: test of will ! (1/2/2013 9:34:28 AM)

back in game after a robber-virus
all action take placein this picture
there was mud in central russia
crimea is locked for me (fort3 and 2 corps)

losses from the week
7 670 men, 145 art, 46 afv & 76 AC axis
17 670 men, 315 art, 106 afv & 148 AC

pool
35 170 men
203 800 veh
112 272 arm
2 hiwi

[image]local://upfiles/37270/28DF03EADB3C46999DA2E23BD90DA601.jpg[/image]



morvael -> RE: test of will ! (1/2/2013 9:39:15 AM)

Only Kerch is "locked", not the entire Crimea :) Perhaps the only place a pair of rifle corps is useful in 1942 (IMHO).



cpt flam -> RE: test of will ! (1/5/2013 9:08:56 AM)

turn 58
we are hoping that river will protect somes
sorry for the SLO but they were needed to repulse a stack (2rifle div + a tank corp) NE of them

losses
9 620 men, 200 art, 35 afv & 163 air axe
19 410 men, 340 "", 109 "" & 214 AC

pool (german actif)
32 950 men
203 kilo veh
115 649 arm
17 hiwis


[image]local://upfiles/37270/A3A9EB77346446DF9B3D8A854C4EAAA9.jpg[/image]



morvael -> RE: test of will ! (1/5/2013 10:32:00 PM)

- Why did the Germans took allies with them into the East?
- To give Russians someone to beat...



cpt flam -> RE: test of will ! (1/10/2013 11:40:40 AM)

7.30
once more all action is limited to few hexes (forts 2&3 to remove)

pool
35 700 men
204 300 veh
119 843 arm
15 hiwis

losses
9 060 men, 180 art, 51 afv & 113 AC(25 reco)
18 610 "", 330 " ", 115 "" & 180 russian

[image]local://upfiles/37270/A3672D50B56546049FF8C26F7B81839C.jpg[/image]



cpt flam -> RE: test of will ! (1/12/2013 10:43:42 AM)

turn 60 trying a two prunge advance

losses from my attacks
9 150 men, 165 art, 74 afv & 107 air axis
21 060 "", 345 "", 326 " " & 169 " "

german pool
32 680 men
204 400 veh
119 571 arm
4 H

[image]local://upfiles/37270/9720D0ED34FE4F7C84E7D05EB0BAF090.jpg[/image]



morvael -> RE: test of will ! (1/12/2013 10:48:31 AM)

You are hammering my poor troops without mercy and without pauses... The only screen I like to watch is the production screen :)



cpt flam -> RE: test of will ! (1/13/2013 2:34:52 PM)

8.13
my poor troopshave been repulsed from the north
i will try to bypass Voronezh

pool
25 160 men
206 400 veh
119 808 arm
8 hiwis

[image]local://upfiles/37270/0C2A4F0B81174033B22EF9FDCB94299B.jpg[/image]



cpt flam -> RE: test of will ! (1/13/2013 2:38:27 PM)

actual losses (really not guilty)

195(ax) vs 190(ru) aircrafts
29 REC & TRS for me

[image]local://upfiles/37270/B5B8C106AAF54014813C2B9521A849AE.jpg[/image]



morvael -> RE: test of will ! (1/13/2013 3:34:30 PM)

I assume your goal is to estabilish a good defensive front line on the (big) rivers. Is that so?



cpt flam -> RE: test of will ! (1/18/2013 9:06:24 AM)

no answer to give !
turn 62
some action take place near Tula

pool
23 770 men
207 500 veh
114 172 arm
7 hiwi

[image]local://upfiles/37270/53A77EBDF26847A69CDFF29CD112622E.jpg[/image]



cpt flam -> RE: test of will ! (1/18/2013 9:12:11 AM)

as you can see
this game change from others, each hex as 2 div and a corp or 3 div or 3 corps (rare)

south of Voronezh assault continue
losses this week
10 760 men, 235 art, 57 afv & 185 AC axis
44 260 "", 680 "", 240 " " & 229 ""

[image]local://upfiles/37270/4C76751603934F38BCEDB4C5B84B9E8C.jpg[/image]



morvael -> RE: test of will ! (1/18/2013 10:53:21 AM)

Wow, how many routed. When I open my turn there is 1/4 or 1/3 of that number still routed, so I don't see such dramatic effect :) 3 Corps per hex is only for "Tank" armies, as I like to keep troops from the same army together (because otherwise there is a strength penalty in combat). Regular armies are mostly 7 divs + cav/tank corps or 8 divs + 2 tank brigades, that's why it's 3 divs or 2 divs + corps per hex. My troops build forts very slowly, so once I have some forts I won't garrison them with a single division - waste of good fort :)



Mike29 -> RE: test of will ! (1/18/2013 5:24:09 PM)

Cpt how many tanks you have?



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