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Canoerebel -> RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent (11/15/2017 5:03:40 PM)

2/6/45

John sent this turn yesterday, but I didn't begin attending to it until last night. I'll probably go through and gradually post a lot of screen shots dealing with various things.

KB East: Looks like John's recalling his carriers to Lunga/Tulagi. To this point its mission has been a bust. Where does it go next?


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Canoerebel -> RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent (11/15/2017 5:27:34 PM)

2/6/45

Fancy Pants: Hong Kong falls. Basically nothing left to do south of the Yangtze except containment and mop-up work. North of the Yangtze, the Allied advance continues.

Funnell Cakes: Gunzan is quickly developing. John will probably feed forces into this fray (carrying out his threat to commit 8,137 AV and all the other things he can come up with). I should be able to use Gunzan airfield offensively in ten days or so. Other than that, the plan is to allow John to impale himself on hardened targets: Allied armies, Allied aircraft, Allied ships.

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Canoerebel -> RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent (11/15/2017 5:27:48 PM)

Photo of the USS Atlanta, Tacoma, Washington, October 26, 1945. This is a Cleveland-class light cruiser, name for the CLAA of the same name sunk during the Guadalcanal campaign.

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FlyByKnight -> RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent (11/15/2017 5:56:14 PM)

I do wonder how much fight the IJN in the Home islands has left in it. Seems like John is down to Matsu/Tachibana class destroyers for escorts.
Have you considered launching major Carrier-based attacks on the big Japanese ports?



Canoerebel -> RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent (11/15/2017 6:29:00 PM)

He is using a lot of those smaller destroyers. They have their uses, but he's pretty stretched for escorts.

I've considered striking Japanese ports by carrier or by LBA. I've done so once or twice, hitting a bunch of small stuff at Nagasaki a number of weeks back.

I think he's moved most of his good ships up north, to places like Ominato or Sapporo. He'll have decent fighters to protect against 4EB. I won't send Death Star that far away anytime soon, as fuel is an issue and since protecting Gunzan is a much higher priority and directly and indirectly yields points far more efficiently.



JeffroK -> RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent (11/15/2017 7:13:14 PM)

Is there any sign of a wall of troops heading out of Manchuria??

Or has JIII discovered he bought out the best troops and left a rabble behind?

I think Keijo is vital, means he must detrain a few hexes further out.



paullus99 -> RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent (11/15/2017 7:22:50 PM)

Again, if he even begins to think that his troops are going to be able to stand up to your forces, he's fooling himself.



Crackaces -> RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent (11/16/2017 12:39:30 AM)


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ORIGINAL: paullus99

Again, if he even begins to think that his troops are going to be able to stand up to your forces, he's fooling himself.


The combats should start showing (-) supply and the effects becoming quite apparent. Committing High AV ...low supply .. low firepower is the worst of all decisions vs high firepower well supplied Allied forces .. The IJA will be locked into hexes they cannot willingly retreat .. but suffer innumerable losses until the AV ratio dictates the retreat.
Then there is all the open terrain that will face a slaughter from the air ..
From my limited experience the capture of Taikyu and cutting of supply of Fusan to the rest of the world will have effects until this game is over -- the units out of bases are going to suck the bases dry .. including places the IJ would like to fly aircraft . very soon the only viable bases will be the home islands

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MakeeLearn -> RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent (11/16/2017 2:18:02 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

Yeah, when I refer to "poets," I mean all of us - collectively. Like BBfanboy says, there's a bit of poet in every one of us.

I'm not much of a poet. Really, I'm not one at all. I've written about eight poems that I'm not ashamed of. I've written a bunch that I am ashamed of. Some of the words that ended up "on paper" were incredibly bad.

But avid readers and avid writers often have a love affair with words. Some writers can make words sing. Some make them squeak in protest.

Searching for just the right word is fun. When you find it, the satisfaction is amazing. As Mark Twain said, the difference between a good word and the perfect words is as the difference between the lightning bug and lightning.

I read the story to my class today. Their reaction was what I had hoped for. But they are prejudiced - I knew they would appreciate the topic, and they know and tolerate my writing and speaking. Still, they make a good sounding board. For now, I'll put it aside for a few days, then re-read it with a fresh eye.




Words pale compared to the musical sound. For words pass through the intellect first, whereas a musical note goes straight to deep inward feelings. Can words be made visceral, given the timbre, phrasing, articulation, and vibrato of a musical instrument rather than that of just a sung word. Words can have too much Pre-definition, a musical tone is defined by the listener. Explained in a "slight return" of Twain - To strike like lightning straight to deep inward feelings instead of fluttering around the intellect like a lightning bug.



witpqs -> RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent (11/16/2017 4:12:24 PM)

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For words pass through the intellect first

Mine too? [:'(]



MakeeLearn -> RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent (11/16/2017 4:19:13 PM)

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ORIGINAL: witpqs

quote:

For words pass through the intellect first

Mine too? [:'(]



A journey through the intellect: "Express, no stops" to emotions. As with:

Now when the men of both sides were set in order by their leaders,
the Trojans came on with clamour and shouting, like wildfowl,
as when the clamour of cranes goes high to the heavens,
when the cranes escape the winter time and the rains unceasing
and clamorously wing their way to the streaming Ocean,
bringing to the Pygmaian men bloodshed and destruction:
at daybreak they bring on the baleful battle against them.
But the Achaian men went silently, breathing valour,
stubbornly minded each in his heart to stand by the others.



Canoerebel -> RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent (11/16/2017 5:05:09 PM)

2/6/45

Points in February (so far): This graphic tells me a couple of things: (1) Army Loss Points have been the biggest contributor so far, to date; (2) it's also the most efficient, as Allied losses have been negligible; (3) Strategic Bombing has been quieter as I prepare for Gunzan airfield to contribute; (4) overall, the increase in points is on pace for another 7,500 to 9,000 point month. But that may change if John feeds assets into the Korea campaign and if the Allies handle the attacks well.

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BBfanboy -> RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent (11/16/2017 9:37:03 PM)

Your points for bases went down 64 points, presumably because Shanghai is under garrisioned and has been damaged. That will change when you get your Chinese garrison there and repair the damage.



Crackaces -> RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent (11/17/2017 4:17:37 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

Your points for bases went down 64 points, presumably because Shanghai is under garrisioned and has been damaged. That will change when you get your Chinese garrison there and repair the damage.


Nanking is a yellow ! .. I think that means enough supply for full points just not x2 for full air operations? (It has been awhile)
The subtraction of points from the IJ is like the Allies gaining x2 (the victory ratio is 2:1) So the rest of China will help I agree with CR the harvesting of ground points is very productive and does not give the IJ points like strat bombing (losing 20 or so 4E's), which is like losing x2
about 25K more points to go give or take ...



Flicker -> RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent (11/18/2017 10:54:12 PM)

OT but is anything really OT in this thread. In the spirit of poetry, I wrote a poem containing the phrase "lex latis limitations", however it is probably too political to post. With the short hiatus, I was looking forward to some hiking or fishing pictures.

Makee - I'll bet there's some good fishing in the hole just below the confluence.



Canoerebel -> RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent (11/19/2017 2:20:07 AM)

I haven't heard from John and don't know if he's back from visiting his mother. I'm leaving in the early morning to visit my mom, returning Monday night. So probably a stand down until sometime late Monday night.

This year, we'll be home for Thanksgiving. That's unusual, but Thanksgiving Day happens to be the 100th anniversary of the death of 12-year-old Beulah Buchanan. I stumbled on her grave in an abandoned cemetery lost in the pinewoods around 1990. It took me nearly 20 years to find out how she died - bacterial meningitis. Over the years, I've written two stories about trying to find out who she was, what became of her family and community, and how she died. On Thanksgiving, I'm going to walk to the location of the house where she died. The house is no longer there - just hundreds of acres of pinewoods. Then I'm going to walk the road her family would have traveled to the site of the now abandoned cemetery. If I was creative, I would have worked with the college that now owns the land to do something more formal to recognize this centennial, but I'm kind of glad to do it alone, walking the old dirt roads in the pinewoods.

P.S. The cemetery is near the foot of Lavender Mountain, the same mountain that inspired the little story I posted earlier this week.



Canoerebel -> RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent (11/21/2017 1:50:07 PM)

2/7/45

KB East: John's carriers retiring to the Solomons.


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witpqs -> RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent (11/21/2017 2:05:54 PM)

Peanut gallery want more sea battles! [:'(]



Canoerebel -> RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent (11/21/2017 2:06:28 PM)

2/7/45

Malaya: This theater remains of tertiary significance, but the Allies are making some progress in the advance on Singapore.

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Canoerebel -> RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent (11/21/2017 2:07:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: witpqs
Peanut gallery want more sea battles! [:'(]


Me-Nut gallery want more sea battles, too! I can't force John to commit his carriers but I keep tried to make it imperative that he do so.



Canoerebel -> RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent (11/21/2017 2:25:22 PM)

2/7/45

Fancy Pants: The Allies continue to advance into northern China; in the south it's pretty clear it's just a matter of mopping up now - I don't think John's remaining stacks have legit offensive capabilities.

Funnel Cakes: All eyes on Korea. John has threatened a massive counterattack but to this point has only nibbled ineffectively. Gunzan airfield to level three today.

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MakeeLearn -> RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent (11/23/2017 1:16:45 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Flicker

OT but is anything really OT in this thread. In the spirit of poetry, I wrote a poem containing the phrase "lex latis limitations", however it is probably too political to post. With the short hiatus, I was looking forward to some hiking or fishing pictures.

Makee - I'll bet there's some good fishing in the hole just below the confluence.



Yes, even when no fish can be seen, they are under the bank/brush. And the pools/shallows change after a rain.



MakeeLearn -> RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent (11/23/2017 1:20:40 PM)


The view from the "Millennium Falcon"(serial YT-1300 492727ZED), a Corellian YT-1300f light freighter, as it loads up for a delivery to the Death Star.

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Kitakami -> RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent (11/23/2017 1:23:02 PM)

That is one awesome pic!



JohnDillworth -> RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent (11/23/2017 2:20:03 PM)

Got the remastered version

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BBfanboy -> RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent (11/23/2017 2:36:16 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MakeeLearn


The view from the "Millennium Falcon"(serial YT-1300 492727ZED), a Corellian YT-1300f light freighter, as it loads up for a delivery to the Death Star.

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I see they covered up the Lay-a (Leia) Bombsight to maintain secrecy. Those storm troopers will never think to look under there!



Canoerebel -> RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent (11/23/2017 6:37:01 PM)

Around 1991, I stumbled across this tombstone in an abandoned cemetery in the woodlands now owned by Berry College. This little girl had died on Thanksgiving Day 1917. Today being the centennial of her death, I visited the forgotten cemetery again.

For many years after I found the tombstone, I wondered what had happened to the girl, her family, and the community. Over the course of about 15 to 18 years, I gradually found answers to those questions.

She was born in 1905 to John and Laura Buchanan, who were textile mill workers in Lindale, Georgia. Laura died in 1912 giving birth to a son, John. The newborn was adopted by Olaf Titrud, a professor of agriculture at the Berry Schools north of Rome. Apparently he and his wife also took in Beulah, from time to time, though I don't think he formally adopted her.

On Thanksgiving Day 1917, 12-year-old Beulah was with her young brother at the Titrud house, Pinehaven, when she suddenly went into continuous convulsions. She died within the hour. The next day, she was buried in the cemetery at Central Grove. Over the ensuing years, the community was abandoned, all the structures torn down or destroyed, and nothing left. The cemetery is about 100 yards in the woods on a gated dirt road that nobody except hunters use.

I've never found a photo of Beulah. I have seen a photo of her older brother, Paul. If she resembled him, she'd have had wavy, dark blonde hair and blue eyes with a ruddy complexion. But she died that Thanksgiving day, and to my knowledge there's nobody left today to remember her.

This photo was made today. I haven't forgotten Beulah Buchanan.

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Canoerebel -> RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent (11/23/2017 6:46:19 PM)

John sent a turn this a.m. along with a message that he's really struggling with game morale at the moment (not to mention a busy schedule at work and some important matters involving the health of his mom).

I sent him back a long email, partly to encourage him, partly to let him know I understand that he's struggling, and partly to get a rise out of him - to light a fire that will propel him towards an effective and satisfying end to this game.

John has done a pretty good job working the game from a gaming standpoint - marshalling and preserving his assets to postpone an Allied auto-victory. But that victory is looming ever nearer and is almost certain to occur within the "Decisive Victory" window unless he does something magical. But this strategy doesn't sit will with his "inner JFB," I think. To allow the Allies to pummel the Japanese heartland while KB steams around SoPac is just "sad." It works, to a diminishing extent, within the game's victory points framework. But allowing Japan to meekly die isn't part of the Bushido Code that John seems to savor. We've said it before and I think it's accurate: it'll be better for him to go out flaming and crashing than to sit by while empire whimpers to its pathetic end.

There are players out there who could gamely work the VP/gaming angle utilizing the strategy John is using - and to very good effect. But I think John is one of those who needs "Banzai!" rather than to game.



Canoerebel -> RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent (11/23/2017 9:12:02 PM)

2/8/45

Fancy Pants & Funnel Cakes: Good progress in Korea and China. John is threatening an all-out assault. I think it's coming in the not-too-distant future.



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JohnDillworth -> RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent (11/24/2017 12:01:51 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

Around 1991, I stumbled across this tombstone in an abandoned cemetery in the woodlands now owned by Berry College. This little girl had died on Thanksgiving Day 1917. Today being the centennial of her death, I visited the forgotten cemetery again.

For many years after I found the tombstone, I wondered what had happened to the girl, her family, and the community. Over the course of about 15 to 18 years, I gradually found answers to those questions.

She was born in 1905 to John and Laura Buchanan, who were textile mill workers in Lindale, Georgia. Laura died in 1912 giving birth to a son, John. The newborn was adopted by Olaf Titrud, a professor of agriculture at the Berry Schools north of Rome. Apparently he and his wife also took in Beulah, from time to time, though I don't think he formally adopted her.

On Thanksgiving Day 1917, 12-year-old Beulah was with her young brother at the Titrud house, Pinehaven, when she suddenly went into continuous convulsions. She died within the hour. The next day, she was buried in the cemetery at Central Grove. Over the ensuing years, the community was abandoned, all the structures torn down or destroyed, and nothing left. The cemetery is about 100 yards in the woods on a gated dirt road that nobody except hunters use.

I've never found a photo of Beulah. I have seen a photo of her older brother, Paul. If she resembled him, she'd have had wavy, dark blonde hair and blue eyes with a ruddy complexion. But she died that Thanksgiving day, and to my knowledge there's nobody left today to remember her.

This photo was made today. I haven't forgotten Beulah Buchanan.

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As a fellow cemetery visitor I thank you for you story. That's a pretty sad one. Somethimes that kind of research leave me in a funk for a few days



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