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parusski -> RE: A new ACW.. (1/25/2013 6:22:55 PM)

This is heartwarming and very, very, very revealing:

Feinstein Gun Control Bill to Exempt Government Officials

I really would like the gun control advocates to explain this. Why would government officials need exemption. Hell, citizens need exemption. This is just what I have been referring to when I say we have the right to own any firearm in order to protect ourselves from tyrannical government.

The hypocrisy of those in a certain political party I was told not to name on the forum is mind blowing.




parusski -> RE: A new ACW.. (1/25/2013 7:21:44 PM)

Hey, any comment on this you second amendment opponents?

"It should come as no surprise that the Communist Party USA is on board with President Obama’s plan to attack Americans’ right to keep and bear arms as a means to “end gun violence.” A cardinal feature of communist regimes, like all dictatorships, is the prohibition of private ownership of arms, creating a monopoly of force in the hands of the State.

In a January 18 article, People’s World, an official publication of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA), declared that “the ability to live free from the fear or threat of gun violence is a fundamental democratic right — one that far supercedes any so-called personal gun rights allegedly contained in the Second Amendment.”

The article, entitled, “Fight to end gun violence is key to defending democracy,” written by People’s World labor and politics reporter Rick Nagin, claims that “the right-wing extremists opposing all efforts to curb gun violence are the same forces that rallied behind Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney, hoping to undermine every other democratic right as well as the living standards of workers and ordinary Americans.”


Communists Cheer On Obama’s Gun Grab




MrRoadrunner -> RE: A new ACW.. (1/25/2013 8:08:26 PM)


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ORIGINAL: parusski

This is heartwarming and very, very, very revealing:

Feinstein Gun Control Bill to Exempt Government Officials

I really would like the gun control advocates to explain this. Why would government officials need exemption. Hell, citizens need exemption. This is just what I have been referring to when I say we have the right to own any firearm in order to protect ourselves from tyrannical government.

The hypocrisy of those in a certain political party I was told not to name on the forum is mind blowing.


+1 Amen.

Taking our guns will surely make us true sheep?
I wonder if "celebrities", Athletes, and drug dealers will be exempted too?

When all the power resides in government the people are powerless and the country is weak. When power resides with the people the government is weak and the country is strong.
I prefer a strong country to a weak one.

RR




parusski -> RE: A new ACW.. (1/25/2013 10:16:12 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MrRoadrunner


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ORIGINAL: parusski

This is heartwarming and very, very, very revealing:

Feinstein Gun Control Bill to Exempt Government Officials

I really would like the gun control advocates to explain this. Why would government officials need exemption. Hell, citizens need exemption. This is just what I have been referring to when I say we have the right to own any firearm in order to protect ourselves from tyrannical government.

The hypocrisy of those in a certain political party I was told not to name on the forum is mind blowing.


+1 Amen.

Taking our guns will surely make us true sheep?
I wonder if "celebrities", Athletes, and drug dealers will be exempted too?

When all the power resides in government the people are powerless and the country is weak. When power resides with the people the government is weak and the country is strong.
I prefer a strong country to a weak one.

RR


I am stunned that people who have been saying "you don't need certain weapons" are not having their eyes opened by the exemption of "GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS" from the laws they want to impose on the country. I just don't understand how this fails to convert most people to the pro-second amendment side. AAHH.[&:][&:]




barkman44 -> RE: A new ACW.. (1/27/2013 8:43:14 PM)

You forget the Times cover saying "We're all Socialist Now!"we conservative knuckle dragging neandethals are the bulls in niechzches{i know i did'nt spell it right but i refuse to use spell check}theory on herd syndrome who stand outside the herd and must be quarentined and eventually eliminated lest they infect the herd.
Naturaly if you want the gov to take care of you cradle to grave the people in it must possess superior intellect
so as to be able to judge when to use their firearms that we the un-washed herd could'nt possibly exercise
Here's an exta tidbit when the call for public education came up it was opposed because an educated citizenry was a dangerous citizenry
we might think for ourselves,now we have a gov that tells us what light bulbs we can use and how much water our toilets can use!
LORD SAVE ME FROM DEDICATED MEN!!![Alvarez Kelly]




parusski -> RE: A new ACW.. (1/27/2013 8:55:56 PM)

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ORIGINAL: barkorn45

You forget the Times cover saying "We're all Socialist Now!"we conservative knuckle dragging neandethals are the bulls in niechzches{i know i did'nt spell it right but i refuse to use spell check}theory on herd syndrome who stand outside the herd and must be quarentined and eventually eliminated lest they infect the herd.
Naturaly if you want the gov to take care of you cradle to grave the people in it must possess superior intellect
so as to be able to judge when to use their firearms that we the un-washed herd could'nt possibly exercise
Here's an exta tidbit when the call for public education came up it was opposed because an educated citizenry was a dangerous citizenry
we might think for ourselves,now we have a gov that tells us what light bulbs we can use and how much water our toilets can use!
LORD SAVE ME FROM DEDICATED MEN!!!


And yet, proponents of gun control constantly say to me "we don't want to take your guns, just outlaw the future sale of certain guns". All these people need do is simply amend the constitution to eliminate the 2nd amendment. I have suggested this and their response is-oh you are being silly. They don't understand the creeping restrictions on freedom with each little change in those freedoms. I caused someone to stutter last week when I angrily(faked) told him his 1st amendment right to free speech should not allow him to talk of gun control, because he was putting children of gun owners in danger(the children, the children! He said "not the same thing". Of course he wants his freedoms guaranteed, but not those he disagrees with. SIGH.[:(]

Ex-Liberal playwright David Mamet recently said

“All of us have had dealings with the State, and have found, to our chagrin, or, indeed, terror, that we were not dealing with well-meaning public servants or even with ideologues but with overworked, harried bureaucrats. These, as all bureaucrats, obtain and hold their jobs by complying with directions and suppressing the desire to employ initiative, compassion, or indeed, common sense. They are paid to follow orders,” Mamet wrote.

Rule by bureaucrats and functionaries is an example of the first part of the Marxist equation: that the Government shall determine the individual’s abilities. … President Obama, in his reelection campaign, referred frequently to the ‘needs’ of himself and his opponent, alleging that each has more money than he ‘needs.’ But where in the Constitution is it written that the Government is in charge of determining ‘needs’?

“[Obama] has just passed a bill that extends to him and his family protection, around the clock and for life, by the Secret Service. He, evidently, feels that he is best qualified to determine his needs, and, of course, he is. As I am best qualified to determine mine. For it is, again, only the Marxists who assert that the government, which is to say the busy, corrupted, and hypocritical fools most elected officials are (have you ever had lunch with one?) should regulate gun ownership based on its assessment of needs.”

“President Obama seems to understand the Constitution as a ‘set of suggestions.’ I cannot endorse his performance in office, but he wins my respect for taking those steps he deems necessary to ensure the safety of his family. Why would he want to prohibit me from doing the same?”


Puliter Prize-winning playwright David Mamet: Obama's gun control policy is Marxist




barkman44 -> RE: A new ACW.. (1/27/2013 9:04:39 PM)

Or like John Kerry said "The constitution does'nt work sometimes"scary and yet no one seems to care
and he's probably going to be our sec.of state




parusski -> RE: A new ACW.. (1/27/2013 9:17:57 PM)


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ORIGINAL: barkorn45

Or like John Kerry said "The constitution does'nt work sometimes"scary and yet no one seems to care
and he's probably going to be our sec.of state


Yeah. I think the problem for the President's proposals will actually come from Senator Harry Reid(D., Nevada). Reid received and widely touted NRA endorsement during his last campaign. Reid has a history of saying gun control is a no-go. He knows damn well that most Nevada residents will vote with their feet if he supports the proposals.




parusski -> RE: A new ACW.. (1/28/2013 9:51:05 PM)

LOL, ya gotta love the average American:

Seattle Gun BuyBack Gets JACKED! Turns Into a Damn Gun Show! LOL




Sarge -> RE: A new ACW.. (1/31/2013 12:42:43 AM)

Maybe there’s something to B.H.O fascination with Honest Abe tyrannical presidency ?

You’d be hard pressed to find a speech that B.H.O hasn’t quoted Abe, never mind he has said on many occasions he idolized ‘n studied Lincoln as a Constitutional lawyer……….[&:]




Aurelian -> RE: A new ACW.. (1/31/2013 1:56:21 AM)

Was Reagan a Marxists?

Ronald Reagan supported an assault weapons ban, the Brady Bill on background checks and, in 1986, signed the Firearm Owners Protection Act, which was hailed by gun rights activists for its numerous protections for gun owners. But it also banned ownership of any fully automatic rifles that wasn't already registered on the day the law was signed.




Chickenboy -> RE: A new ACW.. (1/31/2013 2:51:12 AM)


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ORIGINAL: parusski

LOL, ya gotta love the average American:

Seattle Gun BuyBack Gets JACKED! Turns Into a Damn Gun Show! LOL


I'm saving a really old cantankerous shotgun and a Mauser .22 rifle I have for this purpose. Perhaps an old .38 Rossi 5-shot snubbie that I have too. All are past their prime and would make a great 'trade in, no questions asked' option.

The ones I have that are in good shape? Not hardly, partner.




parusski -> RE: A new ACW.. (1/31/2013 2:24:10 PM)


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West Point is training for right wing nut job anti federal govt attacks.

http://www.kfiam640.com/cc-common/news/sections/newsarticle.html?feed=104668&article=10711513


I find it depressing that those who do not agree with the political party I was told not to mention are always called names, like nut jobs. I have argued my point of view on this forum many times, but have never once gone hurled insults. And a certain political party bemoans the negativity in politics...LOL-hypocrisy indeed.




parusski -> RE: A new ACW.. (1/31/2013 2:28:54 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Aurelian

Was Reagan a Marxists?

Ronald Reagan supported an assault weapons ban, the Brady Bill on background checks and, in 1986, signed the Firearm Owners Protection Act, which was hailed by gun rights activists for its numerous protections for gun owners. But it also banned ownership of any fully automatic rifles that wasn't already registered on the day the law was signed.


You do realize, I hope, that assault weapons are just any rifle with fancy grips attached?? I am still wondering why this strange obsession with "assault weapons" when almost all murders by firearms are from handguns.

Logic dictates that you should support banning handguns. I am not trying to be sarcastic.




PipFromSlitherine -> RE: A new ACW.. (1/31/2013 4:15:39 PM)


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ORIGINAL: parusski


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ORIGINAL: junk2drive

West Point is training for right wing nut job anti federal govt attacks.

http://www.kfiam640.com/cc-common/news/sections/newsarticle.html?feed=104668&article=10711513


I find it depressing that those who do not agree with the political party I was told not to mention are always called names, like nut jobs. I have argued my point of view on this forum many times, but have never once gone hurled insults. And a certain political party bemoans the negativity in politics...LOL-hypocrisy indeed.

Saying "a certain political party" isn't fooling anyone... [;)] Keep it about the facts or the thread will be closed.

Cheers

Pip




parusski -> RE: A new ACW.. (2/3/2013 4:02:35 PM)

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ORIGINAL: parusski


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ORIGINAL: Aurelian

Was Reagan a Marxists?

Ronald Reagan supported an assault weapons ban, the Brady Bill on background checks and, in 1986, signed the Firearm Owners Protection Act, which was hailed by gun rights activists for its numerous protections for gun owners. But it also banned ownership of any fully automatic rifles that wasn't already registered on the day the law was signed.


You do realize, I hope, that assault weapons are just any rifle with fancy grips attached?? I am still wondering why this strange obsession with "assault weapons" when almost all murders by firearms are from handguns.

Logic dictates that you should support banning handguns. I am not trying to be sarcastic.


Time for fun, since this very political thread can't mention politi*s or the two part*ys we have.
So lets just enjoy something completely different.

I love it when a White House of any political bent tells Americans what they can and can't do. Check out the link of U.S. citizens NOT obeying the great one, oh and here is the photo that got it all started:

http://twitchy.com/2013/02/02/hilarity-ensues-as-twitter-users-caption-and-photoshop-obamas-shooting-photo/

[image]local://upfiles/191/1BFBB1808C3943D996E66C1898488E34.jpg[/image]




parusski -> RE: A new ACW.. (2/3/2013 4:17:58 PM)

"The peculiar evil of silencing the expression of an opinion is that it is robbing the human race: posterity as well as the existing generation; those who dissent from the opinion, still more than those who hold it. If the opinion is right, they are deprived of the opportunity of exchanging error for tuth; if wrong, they lose, what is almost as great a benefit, the clearer perception and livelier impression of truth produced by its collision with error." - John Stuart Mill, On Liberty, 1859




parusski -> RE: A new ACW.. (2/3/2013 4:27:57 PM)

Some say the gun industry is "not regulated", and that is so laughable. Below is an article that gives some great facts:

http://larrycorreia.wordpress.com/2012/12/20/an-opinion-on-gun-control/




warspite1 -> RE: A new ACW.. (2/3/2013 8:48:29 PM)

Mmmmmm I dont know




parusski -> RE: A new ACW.. (2/3/2013 9:17:38 PM)


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ORIGINAL: warspite1

Mmmmmm I dont know


Don't know what? Those photos of our Great Leader are wonderful.




rhondabrwn -> RE: A new ACW.. (2/4/2013 5:51:06 AM)

I think this topic has been beaten to death, locking it would be merciful.




Chijohnaok2 -> RE: A new ACW.. (2/4/2013 8:15:00 AM)

Why lock it?

Understandable if someone makes an out of line comment, or one violating the TOS, but should it be locked simply to stifle debate and discussion?
Is that the reason for it to be locked?




wodin -> RE: A new ACW.. (2/4/2013 10:32:06 AM)

I juts wanted to know that if guns where banned would the pro gun people take up arms against the government..as I see an awful lot of posts on FB implying they will..infact if you posted some of the things they post in the UK about our government you'd be arrested and given four years for inciting.




Chijohnaok2 -> RE: A new ACW.. (2/4/2013 12:07:15 PM)

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ORIGINAL: wodin

I juts wanted to know that if guns where banned would the pro gun people take up arms against the government..as I see an awful lot of posts on FB implying they will..infact if you posted some of the things they post in the UK about our government you'd be arrested and given four years for inciting.


I don't know the answer to whether some people might take up arms if that happened----It's possible--anything is possble.

While I have not advocated something like that, I do cherish the constitutional right to free speech that allows me to say things that the government might not appreciate.

To many, that alone is a right worth fighting for.




Sarge -> RE: A new ACW.. (2/4/2013 12:56:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: wodin
infact if you posted some of the things they post in the UK about our government you'd be arrested and given four years for inciting.

Where do you live Iran ?

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ORIGINAL: rhondabrwn
I think this topic has been beaten to death, locking it would be merciful.

(see post above)…………[8|]




2ndACR -> RE: A new ACW.. (2/4/2013 1:35:00 PM)

The day they come to take my guns by force, that is the day they are met with force. I have lots of friends on the police force, we have a running joke, my name appears on a list to come get my guns, that is a good day to turn in your badge and stay home. I swore an oath to defend the Constitution, and until they can change the Constitution legally, I will defend her to my last breath.




wodin -> RE: A new ACW.. (2/4/2013 2:21:48 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Sarge

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ORIGINAL: wodin
infact if you posted some of the things they post in the UK about our government you'd be arrested and given four years for inciting.

Where do you live Iran ?

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ORIGINAL: rhondabrwn
I think this topic has been beaten to death, locking it would be merciful.

(see post above)…………[8|]




no UK..any facebook message soon gets reported..after the riots the other summer they now have strict law..Two young lad caught up in the moment posted a meeting place in a town to start a riot\anti government protest..no one turned up..but they both got four years..this Law will now be used by any anti government moves or take overs..the wording of the comments made by some Americans on FB if used by people in the UK would definitely be considered inflammatory and inciting violent protest. Lots of people have been arrested and prosecuted for status updates or FB comments in the UK even general trolling. In the UK there is no such thing as freespeach on facebook or twitter.

The Government saw the power of FB during the Arab uprising..so as soon as they could they made sure it couldn't be used like that here..the riots game the perfect excuse..hence the heavy prison sentences..a warning that yes they where happy to see it used like that in the Arab states but they certainly wren't going to allow it to be used like that here.

Oh by the way..I can do that aswell mate [8|][8|][8|][8|][8|] Sarge before you show how condescending you are maybe listen to other people who live in a different place than you as it's likely you may learn something. Or back on my block list..[8|][8|] oh look I've doe it again.




parusski -> RE: A new ACW.. (2/4/2013 3:39:10 PM)


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ORIGINAL: 2ndACR

The day they come to take my guns by force, that is the day they are met with force. I have lots of friends on the police force, we have a running joke, my name appears on a list to come get my guns, that is a good day to turn in your badge and stay home. I swore an oath to defend the Constitution, and until they can change the Constitution legally, I will defend her to my last breath.


Amen brother. I have asked several gun control advocates if we should pass laws allowing the government to dispense with trials in certain cases, such as murders, child abuse and rape. Usually I get absolutely no direct response, just a lot of dancing around. But those who do respond tell me, "we are guaranteed a right to a trial"...ah, there is the rub. It is ok to tinker with your rights to own guns but "by God don't mess with my rights"(as they define them). Then they want to shut down the discussion. Very, very weak intellectually.

I am also stunned at the number of people who think the 2nd amendment is for hunting. And no matter how many times I prove them wrong with quotes from the father of our Bill of Rights, George Mason, Thomas Jefferson or George Washington, they then belittle the Founders. Again, so disingenuous.




parusski -> RE: A new ACW.. (2/4/2013 11:26:34 PM)

Horrible news:


3 people stabbed on NY subway platorm

I await the calls for assault knife regulations. Wait, this is the sound from the knife control crowd:

Outrage of stabbings heard here





Sarge -> RE: A new ACW.. (2/4/2013 11:45:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: wodin
Oh by the way..I can do that aswell mate [8|][8|][8|][8|][8|] Sarge before you show how condescending you are maybe listen to other people who live in a different place than you as it's likely you may learn something. Or back on my block list..[8|][8|] oh look I've doe it again.


lol, your something else Woody.

So if I don’t start listening and stop butting in with my own opinions, you’re going to give me lesson in tolerance by blocking me……[:D]




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