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tk208 -> Funny combat report (1/29/2013 11:36:56 PM)

Hey guys,

The last few turns in my PBEM game have produced a couple of funny combat reports, below is one from the last turn.

It shows Jills attacking but then shows nells, frances and bettys destroyed by flak??

Seems a bit funny the bombers wouldnt show up in the first place.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 04, 44
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Night Air attack on TF, near Medan at 46,76

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B6N2 Jill x 16



Allied aircraft
F4U-2 Corsair x 3


Japanese aircraft losses
B6N2 Jill: 9 damaged
B6N2 Jill: 1 destroyed by flak
G3M3 Nell: 1 destroyed by flak
P1Y1 Frances: 1 destroyed by flak
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed by flak

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
BB New Jersey
BB Iowa
BC Renown



Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B6N2 Jill bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
VMF(N)-532 with F4U-2 Corsair (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Raid is overhead

Some CAP have air radar




JeffroK -> RE: Funny combat report (1/30/2013 1:46:07 AM)

Just as well no Betty's put torpedos into the NJ, then you would hear complaints from your opponent.

I have a feeling, totally unsubstantialed, that recent patches have made a few things wobble a bit.

Changing 1 item might set off something in another field.

PS. I love this as FOW, what if your opponent sees this mix of aircraft and makes a different decision based on being in Betty range for example.
Combat reports IRL are full of error, a number of times bf109 or Fw190 types are reported instead of Zeke or Tony etc.




tk208 -> RE: Funny combat report (1/30/2013 2:38:17 AM)

Fair enough, iv'e just never seen that before in any of my games, if it happens again i'll check the aircraft loss screen to see if they are actually destroyed




Oberst_Klink -> RE: Funny combat report (1/30/2013 8:49:05 AM)

Well... Perhaps one USN or RAF PBY Squadron was over the target area by coincident and got a taste of the own Flak, the same could have been true for the G4M/G3M on Naval or ASW search; the only logical explanation, Spock would say...




tk208 -> RE: Funny combat report (1/30/2013 9:03:54 AM)

Yeah i thought that might be the case but none of the bomber squdrons were on Nav or ASW missions.




LoBaron -> RE: Funny combat report (1/30/2013 12:31:14 PM)

With you on this, JeffK. This could have the same origins as recent sightings of MiGs in the S/SWPac...do not find the related threat sadly...

Never seen it myself, playing with the official patch.

tk208, are you using the later/latest beta?




Puhis -> RE: Funny combat report (1/30/2013 1:02:58 PM)

MiGs in Pacific was not a bug, AI can take planes from other nation's pools.

This seems to be some kind of glitch or a sync bug? When I see things like this, it's not funny.




Alfred -> RE: Funny combat report (1/30/2013 1:12:25 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: LoBaron

With you on this, JeffK. This could have the same origins as recent sightings of MiGs in the S/SWPac...do not find the related threat sadly...

Never seen it myself, playing with the official patch.

tk208, are you using the later/latest beta?


Never fear, Superhero endowed with supernatural power to find threads strikes again.

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LoBaron -> RE: Funny combat report (1/30/2013 1:13:58 PM)

Thanks, Puhis. Just found the thread in the tech section as well. I really thought it was a bug.

Just out of interest, does this happen very often in AI games? Been a while since I played one and honestly cannot remember
seeing it.




LoBaron -> RE: Funny combat report (1/30/2013 1:14:48 PM)

Alfred, stop overtaking me!!!! [:D]




aphrochine -> RE: Funny combat report (1/30/2013 5:33:17 PM)

I'm "the opponent", and from my side, I didnt see the Betties or Franceses show up on my end. I'll post my version of this report when I get home tonight.




LoBaron -> RE: Funny combat report (1/30/2013 5:45:20 PM)

Then Puhis hit the nail and its the synch bug.




aphrochine -> RE: Funny combat report (1/31/2013 1:14:48 AM)

Well, the mystery continues. I did get the same report...


Night Air attack on TF, near Medan at 46,76

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B6N2 Jill x 16



Allied aircraft
F4U-2 Corsair x 3


Japanese aircraft losses
B6N2 Jill: 9 damaged
B6N2 Jill: 1 destroyed by flak
G3M3 Nell: 1 destroyed by flak
P1Y1 Frances: 1 destroyed by flak
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed by flak

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
BB New Jersey
BB Iowa
BC Renown



Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B6N2 Jill bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
VMF(N)-532 with F4U-2 Corsair (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Raid is overhead

Some CAP have air radar




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