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terje439 -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (8/28/2013 10:40:21 AM)

Turn 162 aka It is Sunny again

Overall
The expected pocket did not form, and Sean instead made a push along the entire front. The distance to the nearest Rumanian city is now 6 hexes.
89 USSR attacks this turn, ending with 33 helds, 45 retreats, 2 scouted and 9 routs. We scored a 100% with our one attack, gaining a retreat (merely to gain some morale for an InfDiv).

Losses
USSR : 73.000 troops, 938 guns, 227 AFVs, 513 AC.
Axis : 82.000 troops, 1.894 guns, 172 AFVs, 166 AC.

German units disbanded
1 Fortified Zone.

Partisans
We destroy all 3.

German Pools
Manpower : 1.158
Vehicles : 194.823
Armaments : 229.157
Hiwi : 112
Good thing about our latest losses is that our armaments pool will not grow into a ridiculus size [:D]





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Walloc -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (8/28/2013 12:12:55 PM)

There was a bug that has been fixed concerning that vehicle Terje. It isnt historic production numbers u seeing, a its a data fix it doesnt back date.

Just to let u know. Btw i dont see much of a tiger pool any more, happy? [:D] and damn it hold out i put my money on u[;)]

Tip toes out,

Rasmus



Peltonx -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (8/28/2013 1:20:15 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: terje439

Turn 162 aka It is Sunny again





German Pools
Manpower : 1.158
Vehicles : 194.823
Armaments : 229.157
Hiwi : 112
Good thing about our latest losses is that our armaments pool will not grow into a ridiculus size [:D]




I have a quick question.

GHC manpower pools, is that GHC manpower pool ONLY at 1,158,000 million?

GHC armaments ONLY at 229,000 ?

If these are GHC ONLY numbers then 1.07.10 did not fix the issue and there is something wrong still with the conversions as you clearly have armaments and manpower to put the 1.1 million men into your units.

If true your getting your head handed to you because the game engine is still not working as it should and you need to put this in the tech support area asap.








terje439 -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (8/28/2013 1:26:41 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Pelton

quote:

ORIGINAL: terje439

Turn 162 aka It is Sunny again





German Pools
Manpower : 1.158
Vehicles : 194.823
Armaments : 229.157
Hiwi : 112
Good thing about our latest losses is that our armaments pool will not grow into a ridiculus size [:D]




I have a quick question.

GHC manpower pools, is that GHC manpower pool ONLY at 1,158,000 million?

GHC armaments ONLY at 229,000 ?

If these are GHC ONLY numbers then 1.07.10 did not fix the issue and there is something wrong still with the conversions as you clearly have armaments and manpower to put the 1.1 million men into your units.

If true your getting your head handed to you because the game engine is still not working as it should and you need to put this in the tech support area.



That is German manpower at 1.158, or 1thousand 1houndred and fifty eight men [;)]
Armaments is correctly stated at 229k, but that is no wonder considering my recent losses imo.



Terje



terje439 -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (8/28/2013 1:27:31 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Walloc

There was a bug that has been fixed concerning that vehicle Terje. It isnt historic production numbers u seeing, a its a data fix it doesnt back date.

Just to let u know. Btw i dont see much of a tiger pool any more, happy? [:D] and damn it hold out i put my money on u[;)]

Tip toes out,

Rasmus


If they only fix the 50mm mortar as well now, that would be nice [;)]
And well, we shall see how it turns out.



Terje



Peltonx -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (8/28/2013 1:30:24 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: terje439

quote:

ORIGINAL: Pelton

quote:

ORIGINAL: terje439

Turn 162 aka It is Sunny again





German Pools
Manpower : 1.158
Vehicles : 194.823
Armaments : 229.157
Hiwi : 112
Good thing about our latest losses is that our armaments pool will not grow into a ridiculus size [:D]




I have a quick question.

GHC manpower pools, is that GHC manpower pool ONLY at 1,158,000 million?

GHC armaments ONLY at 229,000 ?

If these are GHC ONLY numbers then 1.07.10 did not fix the issue and there is something wrong still with the conversions as you clearly have armaments and manpower to put the 1.1 million men into your units.

If true your getting your head handed to you because the game engine is still not working as it should and you need to put this in the tech support area.



That is German manpower at 1.158, or 1thousand 1houndred and fifty eight men [;)]
Armaments is correctly stated at 229k, but that is no wonder considering my recent losses imo.



Terje


158,000 or 1,158,000? GHC manpower?



terje439 -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (8/28/2013 1:34:14 PM)

no no no
1.580
not 15,8
not 158
1580
not 15800
not 158000
not 1580000

[;)]



terje439 -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (8/28/2013 1:35:03 PM)

Only the numbers written there, I know a zero is nothing, but adding them at the end of other numbers messes stuff up ;)


Terje



RedLancer -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (8/28/2013 1:43:32 PM)

Don't worry Terje I understand you [:)]

I think Pelton might be looking for another Windmill to tilt at ! [:D]



Peltonx -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (8/28/2013 1:48:38 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Red Lancer

Don't worry Terje I understand you [:)]

I think Pelton might be looking for another Windmill to tilt at ! [:D]


Do you mean like

There is no ammo bug
There is no armaments bug
There is nothing wrong when you have 1.2 million men in pool and 250,000 arm pts in pool
There is nothing wrong with how NM is working.
ect ect ect ect ect ect ect

Which I was right about long before they were finally fixed?

Who was tilting the Wind mill on all them issues, it clearly was not me as I was proven right on all of them.

As in the past when people become so defensive about stuff before looking at the data shows that there personal feelings are more important then looking at the data.

Again you attacked me personally for simply asking Terje a question, why?

It is nothing new as it is the standard MO to attack me personally and try and brush things under the rug.

Again why the personal attack?



terje439 -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (8/28/2013 2:02:27 PM)

Ok, I will have nothing of that in here, and Pelton has given loads of excellent advice in my AARs.
So play nice kids [:)]
But did you get what I ment Pelton?


Terje



RedLancer -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (8/28/2013 2:20:55 PM)

If you think I was out of order I apologise - I was just being light hearted hence the emoticons.



Peltonx -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (8/28/2013 2:43:26 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: terje439

Ok, I will have nothing of that in here, and Pelton has given loads of excellent advice in my AARs.
So play nice kids [:)]
But did you get what I ment Pelton?


Terje


Yes, thank you and everything does seem to be working as designed aka 1.07.10

Hopefully you can make it to the point when these +52 divisions start showing up.



terje439 -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (8/28/2013 2:59:15 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Pelton

Hopefully you can make it to the point when these +52 divisions start showing up.



We shall see. Atleast I can soon abandon Rumania, that shortens the front a lot.


Terje



terje439 -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (8/29/2013 12:28:02 PM)

Turn 163

Overall
No major disasters, however the line in front of Rumania is pierced, and the USSR lands some brigades inside Rumania itself. We have now pulled back to Rumania, we did not however disband any Rumanian fortified zones. I'll take those extra 1 CVs from the Rumanian pools any day at this time.
The USSR launched 62 attacks, and scored 19 helds, 40 retreats and 3 routs. Our 4 attacks gave a result of 2 helds and 2 surrenders (2 USSR ski brigades destroyed).

Losses
USSR : 71.000 troops, 742 guns, 210 AFVs, 710 AC.
Axis : 66.000 troops, 1.340 guns, 100 AFVs, 92 AC.

German units destroyed
The 86th LW SP Light Flak Battalion.

German units disbanded
6 Fortified Zones, FBD 2 and FBD 3 (last two as I no longer need them), and the 52nd Infantry Division is merged into the 73rd.

Partisans
We destroy all 4.

German Pools
Manpower : 34.410
Vehicles : 199.262
Armaments : 223.468
Hiwi : 10.078




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terje439 -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (8/30/2013 2:21:53 PM)

Turn 164

Overall
A quiet turn, and that makes me afraid. They are usually followed by a complete train wreck of a turn. Sean has indicated that his aim for 1944 is to flip Rumania, and take K-berg. I think/know he will succeed with his goals [:D]. Recon flights shows that most of the Red Army has been relocated to the north, which makes sense as that sets them up for the closest route to Berlin. For now, we do as ordered by Austin Powers, and dig, dig!!!
25 USSR attacks cause 8 helds, 1 scouted, 11 retreats and 5 routs. Our 3 attacks score 2 retreats and 1 surrender (another pesky amph landed ski Brigade).

Losses
USSR : 45.000 troops, 306 guns, 107 AFVs, 418 AC.
Axis : 28.000 troops, 408 guns, 31 AFVs, 126 AC.

German units disbanded
9 Fortified Zones.

Partisans
There is one on the map, but he is next to USSR territory, so it will live.

German Pools
Manpower : 5.257
Vehicles : 199.740
Armaments : 204.768
Hiwi : 1.171




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loki100 -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (8/30/2013 2:28:32 PM)

that does look ominous ... this feeling that not only is something bad going to happen to you, but you exactly what it is and where ... eek[:)]



terje439 -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (8/30/2013 4:03:04 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: loki100

that does look ominous ... this feeling that not only is something bad going to happen to you, but you exactly what it is and where ... eek[:)]




Hehe yeah [:)]



terje439 -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (8/31/2013 7:39:35 AM)

Turn 165 aka Sigh, what is the use...

Overall
I was right. This turn was NOT nice. Just gonna be a short update this time. Sick of how this game works at times...
79 USSR attacks, 28 helds, 1 scouted, 50 retreats. 7 Axis attacks, 1 held (see below), 4 retreats and 2 surrenders (last two ski brigades).

Losses
USSR : 85.000 troops, 1.059 guns, 515 AFVs, 767 AC.
Axis : 56.000 troops, 1.148 guns, 182 AFVs, 274 AC.

German units disbanded
16 Fortified Zones.

Partisans
Post removed from now on.

German Pools
Manpower : 9.869
Vehicles : 201.312
Armaments : 209.789
Hiwi : 2.001




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terje439 -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (9/1/2013 10:11:29 AM)

Turn 166 aka Failed attempt at the "Pelton-line"

Disclaimer
The screenshot did not "take"...

Overall
Rumania flipped, and although I thought I had a "Pelton-Line" in place, it seems I did not, as I was merely left with a thin slice of Rumanian land on my hands. Oh well, atleast we saved Hungary, although I believe the Hungarians might have wished for another result [:D]. Most likely we will lose some units in the coming turns, as I cannot hold back anything. At this time a swarm of schoolgirls would overwhelm most of my units I am afraid.
58 USSR attacks this turn, resulted in 24 helds, 27 retreats, 2 routs, 1 shatter and 4 surrenders, while our 3 attacks all ended with retreats.

Losses
USSR : 68.000 troops, 985 guns, 388 AFVs, 511 AC.
Axis : 72.000 troops, 1.362 guns, 130 AFVs, 210 AC.

Axis units destroyed
44th and the 183rd Infantry Division, 102nd Hungarian Reserve Division, 31st, 81st and 180th LW Flak Regiments, 509th Heavy JagdPanzer Battalion, 5/52nd SP Flak Company.

German units disbanded
101st and the 102nd PzBrig were merged into two PzDivs, to regrow some strength in the divisions.

German Pools
Manpower : 4 (Hanz, Fritz, Herman and Otto, but do not worry, they are ALWAYS picked last [:'(])
Vehicles : 214.069
Armaments : 210.136
Hiwi : 12



loki100 -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (9/1/2013 12:09:39 PM)

you are really are down to the few utter incompentents who just never got picked for the football team ... [:)]

does seem as if its all crumbling around you ... congrats for hanging in there



STEF78 -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (9/1/2013 3:56:22 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: terje439


German Pools
Manpower : 4 (Hanz, Fritz, Herman and Otto, but do not worry, they are ALWAYS picked last [:'(])
Hiwi : 12


Do you know the name of the 12 hiwis? Perhaps, they can do a football team..



terje439 -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (9/2/2013 11:04:19 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: loki100

you are really are down to the few utter incompentents who just never got picked for the football team ... [:)]

does seem as if its all crumbling around you ... congrats for hanging in there


Well, just for once they are actually quite PLEASED about being picked last [:D]


Terje



terje439 -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (9/2/2013 11:05:00 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: STEF78


quote:

ORIGINAL: terje439


German Pools
Manpower : 4 (Hanz, Fritz, Herman and Otto, but do not worry, they are ALWAYS picked last [:'(])
Hiwi : 12


Do you know the name of the 12 hiwis? Perhaps, they can do a football team..



Let us see, there is Ivan, Ivan, Ivan, Ivan, Ivan and Ivan, the last 6 I do not recall [;)]


Terje



terje439 -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (9/2/2013 11:47:59 AM)

Turn 167

Overall
Parts of Rumanian flipped back this turn, and the 1st Rumanian CavDiv was so confused that they simply surrendered to us. Not much happening really, despite the fact that the USSR made 74 attacks this turn. The result was ok for us, with 33 helds, 38 retreats and 3 routs. But some mud would be nice nevertheless. Our 3 attacks ended with 1 held and 2 retreats.

Losses
USSR : 82.000 troops, 1.052 guns, 424 AFVs, 460 AC.
Axis : 68.000 troops, 1.547 guns, 254 AFVs, 108 AC.

Axis units destroyed
180th and 202nd LW Flak Regiments.

German units disbanded
4 Fortified zones.

German Pools
Manpower : 2.492
Vehicles : 215.023
Armaments : 183.292
Hiwi : 399





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terje439 -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (9/6/2013 12:54:26 PM)

Game is on hold for now as Sean is away until the 17th. I have one turn waiting for me, and had planned to do it today, but got to work rather long instead, so will do the turn tomorrow.



Terje



terje439 -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (9/11/2013 2:25:23 PM)

Turn 168 aka Give me Mud or give me Death...

Overall
The USSR is now able to do chain attacks like I was supposed to be able to do in -41, and with it comes problems...
Anyway, 74 USSR attacks resulted in 23 helds, 2 scouted, 54 retreats, 4 routs and 1 surrender. We boldly launched 5 attacks....on out of supply Rumanians...and scored 3 retreats and 3 surrenders.

Losses
USSR : 99.000 troops, 1.615 guns, 340 AFVs, 482 AC.
Axis : 63.000 troops, 1.282 guns, 263 AFVs, 299 AC.

Axis units destroyed
1 Fortified Zone.

USSR units destroyed
1 Rumanian Infantry Division and 1 Rumanian Cavalry Division.

German units disbanded
44 Fortified zones.

German Pools
Manpower : 27.592
Vehicles : 215.514
Armaments : 155.097
Hiwi : 3.106



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terje439 -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (9/18/2013 11:27:30 AM)

Turn 169 aka Moving again

Overall
Not a lot happens as we get the turn under ways again, but the Vistula line seems to be shortlived...
4 helds, 16 retreats, 3 routs and 1 surrender makes for a total of 24 USSR attacks. Our 4 attacks results in 3 retreats and 1 surrender.

Losses
USSR : 57.000 troops, 426 guns, 330 AFVs, 298 AC.
Axis : 44.000 troops, 573 guns, 86 AFVs, 37 AC.

Axis units destroyed
102nd and 208th Infantry Division and the 17th Hungarian Infantry Division.

USSR units destroyed
1 Rumanian Infantry Division.

German units disbanded
2 Fortified zones.

German Pools
Manpower : 1.266
Vehicles : 214.515
Armaments : 198.977
Hiwi : 50




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terje439 -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (9/19/2013 2:49:05 PM)

Turn 170

Overall
We are in a lot of problems at the Vistula. Even if we do get mud soon, the problem is that the USSR will likely breech the Berlin area during winter since there is no penalty for cross river attacks then...
34 USSR attacks results in 20 helds, 13 retreats and 1 rout. We perform 4 attacks and score 1 held and 3 retreats.
The Slovaks decide that it is better to surrender now than when the USSR is inside their territory...

Losses
USSR : 59.000 troops, 594 guns, 632 AFVs, 345 AC.
Axis : 37.000 troops, 698 guns, 178 AFVs, 173 AC.

Axis units destroyed
3 Fortified Zones.

German units disbanded
4 Fortified zones.

German Pools
Manpower : 2.766
Vehicles : 217.768
Armaments : 136.412
Hiwi : 160





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loki100 -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (9/19/2013 3:17:53 PM)

looks like you have a tough decision (now how is that for insightful commenting [8D] ) - probably what is left of your defense, esp in the sector S of Warsaw is holding up a substantial Soviet force. Pull out too early and it may be like letting the cork out of a bottle, too late and you are set up to hand them a huge encirclement.



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