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GreyJoy -> RE: India again??...why always me?!!? (7/29/2013 8:32:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Crackaces quote: ORIGINAL: ny59giants Burma - I developed all those bases in Assam to max and still didn't get supplies to flow into central Burma bases (did OK outside of them). It wasn't until I got Ramree Island and was able to push out from there to get supplies to flow. IMO, I would focus on pushing down the coast to Aykab and then going inland from there along with an invasion of Ramree. In slightly less than two months, Burma has changed significantly since landing there. I have found a huge difference between BigBabes and stock in regards to moving supplies within India. My uneducated observations and experience are that in the stock game there is a plethora of supplies that continue to propagate as long as airfield levels are built up that increase the number of supplies per pulse. This increases with continued supplies running into Karachi ...In BigBabes India starts out hungry for supplies and factories do not produce the plethora of stock .. in addition, the IJ can cutoff India producing a dearth with very little propagating .. So the strategy might be different depending on the game modifications ... Agree. It's a completely different story with DBB. The supply situation is far from being decent in Assam-Burma for the allies

GreyJoy -> RE: India again??...why always me?!!? (7/29/2013 8:34:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: obvert These events will make this one pretty interesting for some time to come. Do you have any ideas which vector you'll now concentrate on until your Essex class arrives? OT - Was just in Covent Garden with other visiting friends today and remembered fondly your London trip and our coffee. [:)] I still own you a coffea Erik!!! But next time i'm waiting for you here in Italy! I think i'll keep on doing what i was doing before the tragedy. Work on multiple vectors. NOPAC, CENTPAC, BURMA and DEI. Will now need to develop North western Oz... but, first of all, i need some decent logistic preparation. With reduced cargos, it's pretty hard to get enough supplies and fuel to Oz

obvert -> RE: India again??...why always me?!!? (7/29/2013 10:30:57 PM)
Seems good. Deception is your friend. I'll be there one day!

Cribtop -> RE: India again??...why always me?!!? (7/29/2013 10:35:46 PM)
Ouch. This is almost a replay of my battle with Cuttlefish off Exmouth, just on the opposite coast of Oz. Constricted waters plus CVs can get ugly. This is a learning opportunity about how to operate without CVs, though. You can certainly still win, and can get good experience advancing under LBA while awaiting the Essex horde.

GreyJoy -> RE: India again??...why always me?!!? (7/30/2013 7:04:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Cribtop Ouch. This is almost a replay of my battle with Cuttlefish off Exmouth, just on the opposite coast of Oz. Constricted waters plus CVs can get ugly. This is a learning opportunity about how to operate without CVs, though. You can certainly still win, and can get good experience advancing under LBA while awaiting the Essex horde. August 29, 1942 The allies are slowly gaining back their spirit. In Burma, the Americans have succesfully occupied Cock's Bazar and Akyab and are now trying to make the supplies flow there (which seems to be impossible!). But Assam bases are building just fine. When the monsoon season will be over, i think the supply problem in Assam will be over too and we'll be able to start building Kalemyo and Akyab. Intelligence reports several Jap bought-out divisions already positioned at Palembang, Davao, Kei-Enlanded, Guam, Saipan, Truk and Rabaul. He is clearly guarding and building his inner defensive perimeter. The first big convoy full of enginners of every type has reached Oz. Now it's time to make fuel and supplies get there too.

GreyJoy -> RE: India again??...why always me?!!? (8/1/2013 8:49:22 AM)
Sept 9, 1942 Things have slowed down a lot. The Japs are bombing daily Horn Island, both by air and by sea (using 4 BBs for this mission!) and I don't have anything at hand to counter...I simply have to sit and see my units get bombed to dust...:-/ In the rest of the map we're trying to redeploy our forces and undergoing to all those upgrades that need to be take between august and October (pretty a lot!) In China things look ugly. Supply is gone almost everywhere and the constant bombing is causing more than 1000 casualities everyday! My front won't hold much longer... In Burma we're still building our bases in Assam, hoping to make some supplies flow, while we're setting up the invasion of Cylon, where still 50,000 Japanese are present, along with a huge air army. nothing much to report

GreyJoy -> RE: India again??...why always me?!!? (8/2/2013 5:45:38 PM)
Sept 9-19, 1943 The usual naval and aerial bombings on an, now isolated, Horn Isl. Think he will invade soon. No supply left and no way to bring any relief Raiders appeared near Johnston Island and west of Perth. In Burma, after 2 weeks of harsh air battles, the allied had to leave the airspace over Ledo to the japanese. Tojos did a great job in reducing my CAP untill the point i had to abbandon the Whole area. Helens followed and smashed the fields. At Cochin (Western India) we managed to ambush 30 Nells who went unescorted from Colombo against 4 DDs... 30 Nells gone[:'(] Yet the allies are too weak everywhere to counterattack at the moment. Without my pacific fleet (sunk recently) i have to face the dilemma of being without any naval cover for any possible operation. The Indian fleet (4 CVs+1 CVL) is on the move tough.... and in Burma we got all the starting positions we wanted to (Akyab and Kalemyo).. In China we're still holding...butsupply remains an unsolved problem...so we will probably collapse anytime soon

BBfanboy -> RE: India again??...why always me?!!? (8/2/2013 6:37:25 PM)
I hope the year (1943) is a typo, and not a time warp leaving the Allies a year less to turn the game around!

GreyJoy -> RE: India again??...why always me?!!? (8/2/2013 6:40:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BBfanboy I hope the year (1943) is a typo, and not a time warp leaving the Allies a year less to turn the game around! ahahaah, yes, a mistake. My bad! :-)

GreyJoy -> RE: India again??...why always me?!!? (8/25/2013 7:08:27 PM)
sept 20-27, 1942 Just like my game with Brad, this game has slowed down a lot during august... After the defeat of Horn Island, the allies had to abbandon every chance of an early offensive and are still licking their wounds. We had to find cover and keep the build-up of our logistic... pretty borning at the moment. In China we lost the battle for Sian. On the high road the lack of supplies got the better of us... after several months of harsh fighting, we've been pushed back and now we're running for the Hills, abbandoning Sian... this is the beginning of the end, as we know :-( However we're holding the rest of the perimeter. Kweiyang , Tsuyun and Chikkiang are still in our hands...

GreyJoy -> RE: India again??...why always me?!!? (8/26/2013 10:25:52 AM)
A screeshot of China, the only "interesting" and active theatre at the moment [image]local://upfiles/37890/C8DCE1133A374CD6832FB55E4A65BE7E.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: India again??...why always me?!!? (8/26/2013 11:05:39 AM)
Sian is a tough one. Not sure how much you have or what he is bringing, but with forts that city can hold for a while, even in the clear, and really make it tough on the troops trying to take it. Still, if you abandon that and get a good terrain block up north, the real prize is Lanchow, so you can still keep him from that.

GreyJoy -> RE: India again??...why always me?!!? (8/26/2013 11:13:21 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: obvert Sian is a tough one. Not sure how much you have or what he is bringing, but with forts that city can hold for a while, even in the clear, and really make it tough on the troops trying to take it. Still, if you abandon that and get a good terrain block up north, the real prize is Lanchow, so you can still keep him from that. In clear terrain it's almost impossible to hold, even with forts. Sian has a SL of 130K and he surely has more than that committed in the northern Chinese theatre. Easy to flank from the north, I consider it a very bad place to defend. My armies will be shattered and I won't have any supplies to make them recover. No, I consider a mistake to defend Sian without having secured it's approaches and, once the good terrain is lost, these approaches are lost too. Even the rough terrain is not holdable against a committed Japanese army (with artillery and SL on). His Helens will kill 1000 men every day and his heavy artillery pieces will do the same. While the mountains or the WR terrain offer a much more suitable defensive position. And you're right: Lanchow is the real prize!

GreyJoy -> RE: India again??...why always me?!!? (8/26/2013 7:57:11 PM)
Sept 28- Oct 10, 1942 The pursuit of my units continue North of Sian. We're under heavy pressure but i think we may be able to get safely to the new positions before the enemy's 100k men army invest us in the plains. In Burma the 15th Jap Army is advancing towards Mitikina. We managed to score a good day in the air, ambushing 100 japanese Helens over Mitikyna and Killing 86 planes between Tojos and Helens, losing only 10 frames of mine. At the same time 100 B-17s bombed Katha. A good day. At Horn Island, after 3 months of heavy bombings (5 BB + 5 CAs committed daily along with 200 bombers) the enemy landed the 56th Division, reinforced by 2 indipendent regiment... we achieved a great 1-99 and basically destroyed his first wave (2000 casualities among the attackers). Mini-KB and a strong CA TF is operating near Tabiutea. No signs of the enemy's CVs...

GreyJoy -> RE: India again??...why always me?!!? (8/27/2013 11:42:18 AM)
Oct 11-15, 1942 Horn Island, after a good resistance against the first landing (where we killed 2000 japs) finally fell against overwhelming forces. 5 BBs + 5 CAs bombed the base again, followed up by 100 Betties. Supplies were non existant and there was no way to help the brave Australian garrison. 19,000 allied soldiers has fallen prisoners... oh well But in China we finally stopped the enemy advance north of Sian. The pursuit is over with an astonishing success 46 miles east of Tienshui. round combat at 82,38 (near Tienshui) Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 57586 troops, 777 guns, 783 vehicles, Assault Value = 1781 Defending force 49600 troops, 207 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1410 Japanese adjusted assault: 777 Allied adjusted defense: 2266 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), experience(-), supply(-) Attacker: shock(+) Japanese ground losses: 8084 casualties reported Squads: 354 destroyed, 420 disabled Non Combat: 53 destroyed, 78 disabled Engineers: 21 destroyed, 16 disabled Guns lost 57 (18 destroyed, 39 disabled) Vehicles lost 64 (45 destroyed, 19 disabled) Units destroyed 1 Allied ground losses: 1215 casualties reported Squads: 12 destroyed, 98 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 32 disabled Engineers: 2 destroyed, 7 disabled Guns lost 20 (2 destroyed, 18 disabled) Assaulting units: 1st Recon Regiment 4th Ind.Mixed Brigade 62nd Infantry Brigade 8th Recon Regiment 6th Division 9th Ind.Mixed Brigade 110th Division 41st Division 101st NCPC Route Brigade 4th Mortar Battalion 20th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 5th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 7th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 7th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 9th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 3rd Hvy.Artillery Regiment 1st Field Artillery Regiment 6th Medium Field Artillery Regiment Tonei Hvy Gun Regiment 5th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion 4th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion Botanko Hvy Gun Regiment 1st Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 2nd Medium Field Artillery Regiment Defending units: 42nd Chinese Corps 9th Chinese Corps 90th Chinese Corps 40th Chinese Corps 4th Chinese Cavalry Corps 34th Chinese Corps 4th Construction Regiment 4th Group Army 8th Group Army 6th Group Army 18th Artillery Regiment That's a lot of squads disabled and destroyed and this should buy me the time to move back the overstacked units and to consolidate our positions on the mountain terrain. In the meanwhile we're holding in the South, despite the supplies situation gets worse every day.

GreyJoy -> RE: India again??...why always me?!!? (9/4/2013 8:48:18 AM)
...the game goes on... but I really have no time to do a proper AAR... Synch bug keeps on striking...and drives me crazy [:@] In China we still hold, even if the casualities are HUGE. In Burma we begun a new offensive (but lost Mytikina and Wazrup). In CENPAC we had a huge BB battle, were I lost South Dakota, 1 Brookling Class CL (with one more in sinking conditions),2 CAs and 4 DDs, while he lost Musashi and 2 CAs... with 2 more damaged. Not bad. Hopefully i'll have more time in the nearby future. However the game proceeds fast. We've reached Nov 22, 1942

JocMeister -> RE: India again??...why always me?!!? (9/4/2013 9:04:52 AM)
Wonder why you two get hit with the syncbug so much?! [&:]

GreyJoy -> RE: India again??...why always me?!!? (9/4/2013 9:40:39 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JocMeister Wonder why you two get hit with the syncbug so much?! [&:] Don't know, and we have everything patched and updated...[&:]

kjnoel -> RE: India again??...why always me?!!? (9/4/2013 1:31:48 PM)
I get the sync bug a lot too, once a week or so - we're on the last "official" release. My guess is that everyone gets it but they just don't notice. I only notice because my opponent sends the combat.txt when I'm at work then I watch the replay when I get home. Most of the time it is very minor things but there are still differences, and then occasionally you get some biggies.

GreyJoy -> RE: India again??...why always me?!!? (9/4/2013 4:27:45 PM)
Here's the situation in China at the end of November 1942. The japs are really hitting hard with their artillery and every single Chinese base is bombed daily by 200/250 bombers... Ground combat at Tuyun (74,51) Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 43540 troops, 693 guns, 438 vehicles, Assault Value = 1273 Defending force 52834 troops, 169 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1297 Allied ground losses: 130 casualties reported Squads: 4 destroyed, 7 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Assaulting units: 21st/A Division 104th Division 21st/B Division 4th Ind.Mixed Regiment 13th Tank Regiment 21st/C Division 13th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion 4th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 11th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion 12th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 6th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 23rd Army 21st Mortar Battalion 2nd RF Gun Battalion 2nd Hvy.Artillery Regiment 22nd Medium Field Artillery Regiment 28th Mountain Gun Regiment 5th RF Gun Battalion Defending units: 35th Chinese Corps 67th Chinese Corps 2nd Chinese Corps 52nd Chinese Corps 62nd Chinese Corps 64th Chinese Corps 6th Chinese Corps 9th War Area 12th Group Army -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at 82,38 (near Tienshui) Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 19083 troops, 515 guns, 715 vehicles, Assault Value = 505 Defending force 36738 troops, 141 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 955 Japanese ground losses: 41 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Allied ground losses: 194 casualties reported Squads: 5 destroyed, 17 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Assaulting units: 4th Ind.Mixed Brigade 62nd Infantry Brigade 9th Ind.Mixed Brigade 8th Recon Regiment 101st NCPC Route Brigade 1st Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 7th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 1st Army 6th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 4th Mortar Battalion 5th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 9th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 7th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion Tonei Hvy Gun Regiment 3rd Hvy.Artillery Regiment 1st Field Artillery Regiment 4th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 5th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion 20th Medium Field Artillery Regiment Botanko Hvy Gun Regiment 2nd Medium Field Artillery Regiment 8th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 10th Medium Field Artillery Regiment Defending units: 38th Chinese Corps 40th Chinese Corps 9th Chinese Corps 8th Route Army 90th Chinese Corps 6th Group Army 4th Group Army 8th Group Army [image]local://upfiles/37890/62D91D6A649548E599F512566B2F712B.jpg[/image]

GreyJoy -> RE: India again??...why always me?!!? (9/4/2013 4:36:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kjnoel I get the sync bug a lot too, once a week or so - we're on the last "official" release. My guess is that everyone gets it but they just don't notice. I only notice because my opponent sends the combat.txt when I'm at work then I watch the replay when I get home. Most of the time it is very minor things but there are still differences, and then occasionally you get some biggies. I agree....sadly

obvert -> RE: India again??...why always me?!!? (9/4/2013 8:44:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GreyJoy quote: ORIGINAL: kjnoel I get the sync bug a lot too, once a week or so - we're on the last "official" release. My guess is that everyone gets it but they just don't notice. I only notice because my opponent sends the combat.txt when I'm at work then I watch the replay when I get home. Most of the time it is very minor things but there are still differences, and then occasionally you get some biggies. I agree....sadly Apparently Jocke said we're getting it more than we thought originally. I'm now sending the reports too after my initial trepidation. I wonder if it has to do with the computer running the game, th amount of RAM, stuff like that? Maybe too much other stuff going on while the replay is generated? Those are the only things I can think of. I usually try to have nothing else running on my crazy beat-up game computer. It can barely run the game anyway! [:D]

ny59giants -> RE: India again??...why always me?!!? (9/22/2013 3:58:59 AM)
Looks like I'll need to talk with you more about your opponent Nic. He and I are going to try RA when the next version comes out. [X(]

GreyJoy -> RE: India again??...why always me?!!? (9/22/2013 11:21:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ny59giants Looks like I'll need to talk with you more about your opponent Nic. He and I are going to try RA when the next version comes out. [X(] He's a great opponent. A really strong one Micheal. A short update... we're now in Jan 18, 1943 and the Allies just got their first great submarine victory... the japs tried to navally annihilate Cocos Island (just like they did against horn Island...)... well... my USN subs put 4 fishes in two enemy BBs... finishing them both and forcing the enemy to cancel that operation! Unfortunately China is fallin. Our HR said that the strat bombing could start on 1.1.1943... and the japs, in two weeks, destroyed every single industry in China.. we're doomed :-( Too bad because we had managed to stall him everywhere

ny59giants -> RE: India again??...why always me?!!? (9/23/2013 2:51:51 AM)
We agreed on July 1st '43 for strategic bombing. Hopefully by then, I can have something in China to off set this.

GreyJoy -> RE: India again??...why always me?!!? (11/6/2013 4:48:47 PM)
been a while since I last posted.... Well, things have gone terribly for the allies. I launched a land offensive in central Burma in Jan 1943. Send a combined expedition of 300,000 men (Indian, AUS, US and Brit troops). 200,000 of them were surrounded and defeated at the gates of Shweebo. 100,000, in horrible shape, were pushed back towards Kalemyo, ending the campaign...ouch We've then launched an amphib assault against Ceylon, defended by the 18th Division and by a huge fortress at Dambullah (8 forts, plenty of AA guns, and a stiff division inside). The air battle lasted 2 weeks, costing me 300 planes before I could control the skies over Ceylon. Then we conquered all the bases except Dambullah...which is now sieged for months but far from being defeated. In the PAcific we've landed at Suva and, after a long campaign lasted more than 50 days of fightings, we've pushed back to Nadi the Japanese garrisons. Then we had launched an operation against Nauru Island and Ocean Is. The two carrier fleets have engaged each other. The allied CVs perfomed badly, damaging severly only 1 enemy CV (with 3 more lightly damaged) but not sinking a single enemy ship. We suffered in return the loss of 2 CVEs, 1 CVL, with 3 more CVs severly damaged and 4 CVEs in sinking conditions.... We're now getting ready to move towards PM....and it's august 1943...very very late. Mr.Kane is really outplaying me[&o]

obvert -> RE: India again??...why always me?!!? (11/6/2013 8:38:09 PM)
Get you r super special secret weapon off the shelf. Trick em and Pick em. It's all about deception.

GreyJoy -> RE: India again??...why always me?!!? (11/6/2013 9:04:37 PM)
I've learnt a couple of things from my game with QBall. One of these is that you don't need to pull a "Greyjoy" everytime[:D] in order to get the upper hand. Tactical Feints can be just as effective as strategic ones and you get the "bonus" of having all your eggs togheder. The allies have this great advantage: after 1943 they have both quality and quantity edge! I'm late, true, but my plan is simple: advance and crush them.

obvert -> RE: India again??...why always me?!!? (11/6/2013 9:22:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GreyJoy I've learnt a couple of things from my game with QBall. One of these is that you don't need to pull a "Greyjoy" everytime[:D] in order to get the upper hand. Tactical Feints can be just as effective as strategic ones and you get the "bonus" of having all your eggs togheder. The allies have this great advantage: after 1943 they have both quality and quantity edge! I'm late, true, but my plan is simple: advance and crush them. I'm certainly not advising you to take 10-12 divisions to Hokkaido!!! [:D][X(] The bold says it all, exactly. As Allies you have the amount of stuff that you can advance in several place at once, throw feints, and maybe find an off balance opponent after a few months. Jab, jab, jab ... right hook. [:o]

GreyJoy -> RE: India again??...why always me?!!? (11/7/2013 9:19:38 AM)
I forgot to say something about China: we managed, so far, to maintain the perimeter we've estabilished by mid 1942 (see last map of China posted) The japs have tried to force my defences several times, attacking on the rough terrain NE of Chikkiang and SW of Kweyang, but without success. The strat bombing campaign have completely wiped out by Feb 1943 the Chinese HI and LI industry: The Ledo air bridge has been shut by hundreds of Helens long ago and, after the loss of more than 300 transport planes, I decided to halt it all the same. China has been alone since then... without supplies (all units are at ZERO supplies!!) they have been fighting like lions! The Japanese heavy artillery inflicts more than 1500 casualities every day...[X(]...but, rotating units in and out, we've managed to hold the line...till now... but that's not something I can do forever. Sooner or later he will crush me At Chikkiang he's suffering heavy losses...but he's slowly grinding down my defences... North of Sian, we're keeping the road from the north to the south open... but there I've really finished any fresh corp... every single corp has been annihilated by his heavy artillery... But one thing is sure: with stacking limits China CAN be defended, even against a determined Japanese opponent

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