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GreyJoy -> RE: India again??...why always me?!!? (1/17/2014 4:21:43 PM)
We've had a series of great naval battles at Singapore in the last 15 days. The Musashi and Yamato have finally been put out of the war (either sunk or badly damaged), along with some 10 Modern DDs... on the other hand the allies have lost the Nevada, 5 CLs, 2 CAs and some 30 DDs (more due to mines and CD gunfire at Singa than by battleships' shells). Singapore is a true fortress...with more than 100k men and thousands of planes. Forts must very very high too, cause even with 4 BBs and several CAs bombing the AFs never closes... my 4Es got slaughtered at least 3 times tring to assault that fortress, both by Flak and by the IJ Air Army (composed of SAMs, N1K5 and K48r [X(][X(][X(]). However we've conquered Malacca with a combined operation of para and barges and have now estabilished there a foothold of 1000 AVs, cutting the only road and railroad that connects Singa with northern Malaya and Thailand. The Japs tried to push me out but a tank division failed to do the trick in time, thanks to the intervention of my Navy who bombed the hell out of it. Surat Thani is also conquered by paras...but that base is too isolated and the Japs managed to counterattack and surround my troops... too bad! In Sumatra we've pushed back an army composed of 2 Divisions out of Padang towards Djambi...now we're moving fast both to Djambi and Benkoleng... at least 7 Jap divisions are still based in Sumatra, while I count 8 more divisions in Malaya[X(][X(][X(] We've managed to push out the 29th Army of Alor Star and are now advancing towards Singora... fierce air fightings all over the place with heavy losses on both sides. Allied naval losses are tremendous... especially in terms of DDs... but we're doing (finally!) a fine job on the ground, even if Mr.Kane still has a powerfull army which is a terrible enemy when behind forts. A very fun game however... with the KB still at its zenith and the allied DS that is slowly becoming a factor

GreyJoy -> RE: India again??...why always me?!!? (1/19/2014 8:36:34 PM)
31 July 1944 .... Japanese dominions on Sumatra are really shrinking.... [image]local://upfiles/37890/C89232DA41E44A08B7DD89B6E892B961.jpg[/image]

GreyJoy -> RE: India again??...why always me?!!? (1/19/2014 8:37:20 PM)
while in malasya.... [image]local://upfiles/37890/0BFD5B90A3984363B5F481BC8A7EF524.jpg[/image]

GreyJoy -> RE: India again??...why always me?!!? (1/19/2014 10:53:06 PM)
July 31, 1944 The brave men at Surat Thani have finally fallen. They lasted 3 weeks. More than what i could hope. Enough time given to their companions at Alor Star to be able to finally cut the road and Railroad from Surat Thani to Kotha Baru. Now Southern Malaya is succefully isolated from Bankok. Ground combat at Surat Thani (51,68) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 33199 troops, 882 guns, 458 vehicles, Assault Value = 595 Defending force 18867 troops, 205 guns, 11 vehicles, Assault Value = 276 Japanese adjusted assault: 394 Allied adjusted defense: 197 Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 0) Japanese forces CAPTURE Surat Thani !!! Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 385 casualties reported Squads: 5 destroyed, 35 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled Guns lost 6 (1 destroyed, 5 disabled) Allied ground losses: 19810 casualties reported Squads: 665 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 445 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 250 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 254 (254 destroyed, 0 disabled) Vehicles lost 11 (11 destroyed, 0 disabled) Units destroyed 9 Assaulting units: 5th Guards Division Guards Tank Division Defending units: 31st Infantry Division Lushai Brigade 158th(Sep) Infantry Regiment 16th LRP Brigade 3rd Commando Brigade 1st USN Naval Construction Regiment 38th US Naval Construction Battalion 36th US Naval Construction Battalion 23rd USN Special Const Bn /1 A bad defeat, but strategically it was a winning move

JocMeister -> RE: India again??...why always me?!!? (1/20/2014 4:26:31 AM)
You are making amazing progress despite your early setbacks! [&o] Have you started bombing the oil yet? I assume you have?

GreyJoy -> RE: India again??...why always me?!!? (1/20/2014 10:04:18 AM)
Well, consider that I'm following a couple of HRs that are influencing a lot this game: 1- No Night Bombing except for Nav attacks 2- No 4Es against LCUs So, yes, we've strat bomb a bit... but in daylight is pretty suicidal, unless you find a weak target. I've taken out 2/3 of Miri's production and now Magwe is in my hands. With Palembang under siege I think the only safe oil route remains the one in south Borneo (Balikapan and Tarakan), along with Java. Now, August 3, 1944, we've successfully pushed back a tank division and are ready to march to Singora. The enemy is railing several divisions from Bankok...so I guess it's gonna be a statle mate soon... but with the roads and RailRoads blocked just one hex south of Singora, nothing will be moving south. Ground combat at 50,72 (near Alor Star) Allied Deliberate attack Attacking force 53071 troops, 873 guns, 1078 vehicles, Assault Value = 1781 Defending force 13739 troops, 341 guns, 669 vehicles, Assault Value = 272 Allied adjusted assault: 1467 Japanese adjusted defense: 311 Allied assault odds: 4 to 1 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), experience(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 2716 casualties reported Squads: 52 destroyed, 22 disabled Non Combat: 107 destroyed, 52 disabled Engineers: 6 destroyed, 3 disabled Guns lost 172 (110 destroyed, 62 disabled) Vehicles lost 214 (136 destroyed, 78 disabled) Units retreated 5 Units destroyed 1 Allied ground losses: 308 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 40 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled Defeated Japanese Units Retreating! Assaulting units: 50th Tank Brigade 37th Infantry Division 23rd Indian Division 25th Indian Division 32nd Infantry Division 754th Tank Battalion 11th PAVO Regiment III Indian Corps 168th Field Artillery Battalion 8th Mahratta AT Gun Regiment Defending units: 2nd Tank Division 48th Field AA Battalion 11th Mortar Battalion 1st RF Gun Battalion 7th RF Gun Battalion 29th Army 22nd Fld AA Gun Co 1st Ind. Field Artillery Battalion What I've found in this game is that even in 1944, the allies aren't able to control the skies. Never. His KI-84rs kill everything isn't a P-47s. The 2nd mvr band rule makes those beasts unbeatable. And I cannot bomb him back either... simply too few planes that can sweep bases with 1000 fighters (as I say, only the P47s is a viable option because it's the only one that can fly above 31K) and his concentrated flak is HORRIBLE, even at 20k feet! I gotta do the old way...advance and conquer small inches of ground...and slowly strangle him...but it takes time and lots of patience Now we'll see what we can do at Palembang. If we can conquer it, things should be changing pretty fast. As soon as I get a port on the eastern side of Sumatra south of Singa, i'll be able to really threaten his rear defensive lines

koniu -> RE: India again??...why always me?!!? (1/20/2014 10:54:03 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GreyJoy His KI-84rs kill everything isn't a P-47s. The 2nd mvr band rule makes those beasts unbeatable. And I cannot bomb him back either... simply too few planes that can sweep bases with 1000 fighters (as I say, only the P47s is a viable option because it's the only one that can fly above 31K) and his concentrated flak is HORRIBLE, even at 20k feet! And what about F6F? Hellcat is also able to sweep above Ki-84r max celling Everybody are telling that Ki-84r is so great plane. Is this true that he is so much better from "a" version? Minimally better speed and climb rate plus maneuverability bands and that all. On paper he should be only marginally better If this is true and 2nd mvr band rule is making from Frank r real killer i cant wait to have it in my game

obvert -> RE: India again??...why always me?!!? (1/20/2014 11:23:38 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: koniu quote: ORIGINAL: GreyJoy His KI-84rs kill everything isn't a P-47s. The 2nd mvr band rule makes those beasts unbeatable. And I cannot bomb him back either... simply too few planes that can sweep bases with 1000 fighters (as I say, only the P47s is a viable option because it's the only one that can fly above 31K) and his concentrated flak is HORRIBLE, even at 20k feet! And what about F6F? Hellcat is also able to sweep above Ki-84r max celling Everybody are telling that Ki-84r is so great plane. Is this true that he is so much better from "a" version? Minimally better speed and climb rate plus maneuverability bands and that all. On paper he should be only marginally better If this is true and 2nd mvr band rule is making from Frank r real killer i cant wait to have it in my game It is true. It's decent for sweeps at strato-levels, but good Allied planes in defense still do fine, but defensively if you can't sweep over it this plane will eat you alive. Matched with fast climbing J2M5it's tough with the 2nd best HR.

JocMeister -> RE: India again??...why always me?!!? (1/20/2014 11:53:54 AM)
What Erik said. I think as far as HRs go the "2nd MVR band" one is probably one of the most disruptive and damaging ones.

GreyJoy -> RE: India again??...why always me?!!? (1/21/2014 7:33:01 AM)
August 8, 1944 [image]local://upfiles/37890/596FD977840A4517A4679C96E99B10C7.jpg[/image]

JocMeister -> RE: India again??...why always me?!!? (1/21/2014 7:47:50 AM)
Make sure you destroy the HI/LI at Singers!

GreyJoy -> RE: India again??...why always me?!!? (1/21/2014 7:57:01 AM)
Singer is untouchable! 100k men, behing probably 8 or 9 forts. at least 300 CD guns, at least 4/500 mines, with countless number of heavy AA units and 1000 fighters (KI-100s, SAMs, N1K5s, J2M3s, KI-84r...). I've already lost 200 4Es, several cruisers and DDs trying to close it down...simply impossible. Not even 3 bombing runs the same night with 5 BBs, 5 CAs, 5 CLs and not less than 70 DDs did the trick... despite heavy losses on the ground the following morning my 4Es arriving over it found more than 300 fighters on CAP![X(][X(][X(][X(]. The "economic war" will take another course: not destroying the HI but conquering/destroying the oilfields. With Miri at 55/300, with Djambi at 50/200 and isolated, and with Palembang that will soon be conquered or neutralized, the Japs will remain with only Balikapan and Tarakan as decent oil sources in the DEI. I need to be patient... brute force won't work in this match and I'm not keen to tolerate any more major losses for no gain at all

JocMeister -> RE: India again??...why always me?!!? (1/21/2014 8:11:43 AM)
I don�t think I will have to ask how your 4Es pools are! ;) Btw, with your "no nightbombing" HR have you been able to use the B29s at all? I have found they get shot down just as easy as the B24 despite their 350 MPH speed. 1 B29 for each airborne fighter. [:(]

crsutton -> RE: India again??...why always me?!!? (1/21/2014 5:49:10 PM)
Pretty good positions GJ but how much of his DEI oil production have you cut off or shut down? Does not look like he has any air defense of Palembang so I am assuming that you have bombed it out already.

Mike McCreery -> RE: India again??...why always me?!!? (1/22/2014 1:39:42 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GreyJoy Singer is untouchable! 100k men, behing probably 8 or 9 forts. at least 300 CD guns, at least 4/500 mines, with countless number of heavy AA units and 1000 fighters (KI-100s, SAMs, N1K5s, J2M3s, KI-84r...). I've already lost 200 4Es, several cruisers and DDs trying to close it down...simply impossible. Not even 3 bombing runs the same night with 5 BBs, 5 CAs, 5 CLs and not less than 70 DDs did the trick... despite heavy losses on the ground the following morning my 4Es arriving over it found more than 300 fighters on CAP![X(][X(][X(][X(]. The "economic war" will take another course: not destroying the HI but conquering/destroying the oilfields. With Miri at 55/300, with Djambi at 50/200 and isolated, and with Palembang that will soon be conquered or neutralized, the Japs will remain with only Balikapan and Tarakan as decent oil sources in the DEI. I need to be patient... brute force won't work in this match and I'm not keen to tolerate any more major losses for no gain at all FANTASTIC!!! You have 100K of troops bottled up in one place meaning they cannot be somewhere else ;]

GreyJoy -> RE: India again??...why always me?!!? (1/22/2014 11:25:59 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: crsutton Pretty good positions GJ but how much of his DEI oil production have you cut off or shut down? Does not look like he has any air defense of Palembang so I am assuming that you have bombed it out already. Palembang is well defended and still untouched. 300 fighters based there. 7 forts and heavy AAs... i still need some time to reduce it. Reached August 18, 1944... Heavy fightings at Singora, where the allies are close to conquer the base. Forts down to 0 and heavy casualities on jap side. Pantani has been evacuated. Japs are now defending Kotha Baru with a huge army. The allies got a bloody nose in their first assault at Palembang...2 Jap IDs defending...7 forts...an US division mauled. Forts not reduced [:(] Japanese SAGs reported supporting the defence of Singora. More SAGs reported at Batavia. Allied subs completely useless...

GreyJoy -> RE: India again??...why always me?!!? (1/22/2014 11:26:47 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Wargmr quote: ORIGINAL: GreyJoy Singer is untouchable! 100k men, behing probably 8 or 9 forts. at least 300 CD guns, at least 4/500 mines, with countless number of heavy AA units and 1000 fighters (KI-100s, SAMs, N1K5s, J2M3s, KI-84r...). I've already lost 200 4Es, several cruisers and DDs trying to close it down...simply impossible. Not even 3 bombing runs the same night with 5 BBs, 5 CAs, 5 CLs and not less than 70 DDs did the trick... despite heavy losses on the ground the following morning my 4Es arriving over it found more than 300 fighters on CAP![X(][X(][X(][X(]. The "economic war" will take another course: not destroying the HI but conquering/destroying the oilfields. With Miri at 55/300, with Djambi at 50/200 and isolated, and with Palembang that will soon be conquered or neutralized, the Japs will remain with only Balikapan and Tarakan as decent oil sources in the DEI. I need to be patient... brute force won't work in this match and I'm not keen to tolerate any more major losses for no gain at all FANTASTIC!!! You have 100K of troops bottled up in one place meaning they cannot be somewhere else ;] mmm...yes, but i need to neutralize Singapore if i want to advance towards Borneo....

JocMeister -> RE: India again??...why always me?!!? (1/22/2014 12:05:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GreyJoy Allied subs completely useless... You are starting to sound like me...[:D]

Mike McCreery -> RE: India again??...why always me?!!? (1/22/2014 1:02:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GreyJoy quote: ORIGINAL: Wargmr quote: ORIGINAL: GreyJoy Singer is untouchable! 100k men, behing probably 8 or 9 forts. at least 300 CD guns, at least 4/500 mines, with countless number of heavy AA units and 1000 fighters (KI-100s, SAMs, N1K5s, J2M3s, KI-84r...). I've already lost 200 4Es, several cruisers and DDs trying to close it down...simply impossible. Not even 3 bombing runs the same night with 5 BBs, 5 CAs, 5 CLs and not less than 70 DDs did the trick... despite heavy losses on the ground the following morning my 4Es arriving over it found more than 300 fighters on CAP![X(][X(][X(][X(]. The "economic war" will take another course: not destroying the HI but conquering/destroying the oilfields. With Miri at 55/300, with Djambi at 50/200 and isolated, and with Palembang that will soon be conquered or neutralized, the Japs will remain with only Balikapan and Tarakan as decent oil sources in the DEI. I need to be patient... brute force won't work in this match and I'm not keen to tolerate any more major losses for no gain at all FANTASTIC!!! You have 100K of troops bottled up in one place meaning they cannot be somewhere else ;] mmm...yes, but i need to neutralize Singapore if i want to advance towards Borneo.... With that much firepower there I would be looking at the strait between Sumatra and Java for an assault on the west side of Borneo and let Singapore rot for a while. They either have boatloads of supply (which is also good because that means it is not somewhere else) or they will start starving eventually. However, I am far from an expert on your game and I am sure there are many other considerations I am not taking into account ;]

crsutton -> RE: India again??...why always me?!!? (1/22/2014 4:01:15 PM)
Well, you are at the point where he won't be able to run much supply into Singapore. So it does not matter where you fight him on the peninsula. It is going to burn up his supply.

witpqs -> RE: India again??...why always me?!!? (1/22/2014 4:08:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: crsutton Well, you are at the point where he won't be able to run much supply into Singapore. So it does not matter where you fight him on the peninsula. It is going to burn up his supply. ... or where you aerial bombard/naval bombard on the peninsula, same thing.

GreyJoy -> RE: India again??...why always me?!!? (1/22/2014 4:55:08 PM)
August 20, 1944 After 20 days of harsh fightings, the III Indian Corp managed to conquer Singora, thus completely defeating the 29th Jap Army, that has been pushed back from Alor Star all the way to Singora. Now the Peninsula is really cut in two and we have a small but important sea access on the easter side of Malaya. The last days of fightings saw a desperate attempt by a strong SAG led by BB Fuso to support the demolished 29th Army. Despite the heavy bombings, the allied troops managed to hold their own and, also supported by 200 medium bombers (lost 35 due to flak in 4 days![X(]) we gave them a very good hit round combat at Singora (51,72) Allied Deliberate attack Attacking force 41693 troops, 856 guns, 651 vehicles, Assault Value = 1155 Defending force 47766 troops, 1242 guns, 974 vehicles, Assault Value = 639 Allied adjusted assault: 1042 Japanese adjusted defense: 505 Allied assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 0) Allied forces CAPTURE Singora !!! Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), preparation(-), experience(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 14811 casualties reported Squads: 246 destroyed, 3 disabled Non Combat: 803 destroyed, 44 disabled Engineers: 185 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 743 (740 destroyed, 3 disabled) Vehicles lost 854 (854 destroyed, 0 disabled) Units retreated 8 Allied ground losses: 354 casualties reported Squads: 5 destroyed, 92 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled Defeated Japanese Units Retreating! Assaulting units: 37th Infantry Division 754th Tank Battalion 25th Indian Division IV Corps Engineer Battalion 26th Indian Division III Indian Corps 18th SP Field Artillery Regiment 168th Field Artillery Battalion 88th Medium Regiment 209th Cmbt Engineer Battalion 33rd Medium Regiment 2nd Indian Field Regiment 8th Mahratta AT Gun Regiment Defending units: 5th Guards Division 10th Exped.Force 2nd Tank Division Guards Tank Division 2nd Machine Cannon AA Battalion 7th RF Gun Battalion 22nd Fld AA Gun Co 1st Ind. Field Artillery Battalion 11th Mortar Battalion 170th JAAF AF Bn North of Kotha Baru, our armies are facing another strong Japanese Army Ground combat at 51,74 (near Kota Bharu) Allied Bombardment attack Attacking force 1773 troops, 116 guns, 88 vehicles, Assault Value = 734 Defending force 43100 troops, 1045 guns, 114 vehicles, Assault Value = 851 Japanese ground losses: 19 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Assaulting units: 81st (West African) Division 38th Infantry Division 72nd British Brigade 134th (East Ang) Regiment 122nd British AT Gun Regiment 86th Medium Regiment 28th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment 87th Medium Regiment 3rd (Special Force) Division XXI Indian Corps Defending units: 29th Division 55th Division 37th Ind.Mixed Brigade 2nd Ind.AA Gun Co 31st Ind.AA Gun Co 45th Ind.AA Gun Co 2nd Medium Mortar Battalion While the 3 divisions the Japs had at Taiping fell back towards Kuala Lumpur last turn... Near Palembang we're pretty exposed to enemy's aerial attacks cause we still don't have enough AV support in the area....But I hope to be able to estabilish the air supremacy over Southern Sumatra within the next month. However Palembang will be a very tough nut to crack... 800 AVs behind 7 forts in swamp terrain?...[8\|] Another big plan is undergoing.... more infos soon.... [image]local://upfiles/37890/C108F31313054DADB13D3BB95C2C12C7.jpg[/image]

Mike McCreery -> RE: India again??...why always me?!!? (1/22/2014 5:12:01 PM)
Another POW Camp!!! You need like 300 AV to hold them there. The better to invade the HI with ;]

Sangeli -> RE: India again??...why always me?!!? (1/22/2014 8:37:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GreyJoy However Palembang will be a very tough nut to crack... 800 AVs behind 7 forts in swamp terrain?...[8\|] Luckily you don't need to crack it because AFAIK in DBB refineries do not produce supply. If you can prevent him from extracting fuel from Palembang which if it has not happened will happen soon, Palembang is worthless to Japan. Other than it's oil and refineries it's pretty strategically insignificant. Because of that I would simply bypass and ignore Palembang. If I'm wrong about the supply production then taking it down will be tough - in that case I'd probably just destroy the refinery and still bypass it. No sense getting bogged down in 3x terrain of a level 7 fort of a base if you don't have to.

witpqs -> RE: India again??...why always me?!!? (1/22/2014 8:43:53 PM)
Depends on the version. In more recent versions they did things with daily supply and/or industry to make up for that at many locations due to unintended consequences.

crsutton -> RE: India again??...why always me?!!? (1/23/2014 2:54:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GreyJoy August 20, 1944 After 20 days of harsh fightings, the III Indian Corp managed to conquer Singora, thus completely defeating the 29th Jap Army, that has been pushed back from Alor Star all the way to Singora. Now the Peninsula is really cut in two and we have a small but important sea access on the easter side of Malaya. The last days of fightings saw a desperate attempt by a strong SAG led by BB Fuso to support the demolished 29th Army. Despite the heavy bombings, the allied troops managed to hold their own and, also supported by 200 medium bombers (lost 35 due to flak in 4 days![X(]) we gave them a very good hit round combat at Singora (51,72) Allied Deliberate attack Attacking force 41693 troops, 856 guns, 651 vehicles, Assault Value = 1155 Defending force 47766 troops, 1242 guns, 974 vehicles, Assault Value = 639 Allied adjusted assault: 1042 Japanese adjusted defense: 505 Allied assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 0) Allied forces CAPTURE Singora !!! Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), preparation(-), experience(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 14811 casualties reported Squads: 246 destroyed, 3 disabled Non Combat: 803 destroyed, 44 disabled Engineers: 185 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 743 (740 destroyed, 3 disabled) Vehicles lost 854 (854 destroyed, 0 disabled) Units retreated 8 Allied ground losses: 354 casualties reported Squads: 5 destroyed, 92 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled Defeated Japanese Units Retreating! Assaulting units: 37th Infantry Division 754th Tank Battalion 25th Indian Division IV Corps Engineer Battalion 26th Indian Division III Indian Corps 18th SP Field Artillery Regiment 168th Field Artillery Battalion 88th Medium Regiment 209th Cmbt Engineer Battalion 33rd Medium Regiment 2nd Indian Field Regiment 8th Mahratta AT Gun Regiment Defending units: 5th Guards Division 10th Exped.Force 2nd Tank Division Guards Tank Division 2nd Machine Cannon AA Battalion 7th RF Gun Battalion 22nd Fld AA Gun Co 1st Ind. Field Artillery Battalion 11th Mortar Battalion 170th JAAF AF Bn North of Kotha Baru, our armies are facing another strong Japanese Army Ground combat at 51,74 (near Kota Bharu) Allied Bombardment attack Attacking force 1773 troops, 116 guns, 88 vehicles, Assault Value = 734 Defending force 43100 troops, 1045 guns, 114 vehicles, Assault Value = 851 Japanese ground losses: 19 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Assaulting units: 81st (West African) Division 38th Infantry Division 72nd British Brigade 134th (East Ang) Regiment 122nd British AT Gun Regiment 86th Medium Regiment 28th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment 87th Medium Regiment 3rd (Special Force) Division XXI Indian Corps Defending units: 29th Division 55th Division 37th Ind.Mixed Brigade 2nd Ind.AA Gun Co 31st Ind.AA Gun Co 45th Ind.AA Gun Co 2nd Medium Mortar Battalion While the 3 divisions the Japs had at Taiping fell back towards Kuala Lumpur last turn... Near Palembang we're pretty exposed to enemy's aerial attacks cause we still don't have enough AV support in the area....But I hope to be able to estabilish the air supremacy over Southern Sumatra within the next month. However Palembang will be a very tough nut to crack... 800 AVs behind 7 forts in swamp terrain?...[8\|] Another big plan is undergoing.... more infos soon.... [image]local://upfiles/37890/C108F31313054DADB13D3BB95C2C12C7.jpg[/image] GJ why bother? Just bomb the oil. Palembang serves no real strategic value. In fact, once you are established on the Malay peninsula there is no real need for anything but a few bases in Java. Singapore is the big objective because of it's valuable shipyard. Java never really played into my plans and I just let it rot. I did not even bother with Indonesia save to bomb the oil. Singapore opens the potential to drive East. Indochina is a trap for Japanese forces and you can easily move up the coast of China towards Formosa.

GreyJoy -> RE: India again??...why always me?!!? (1/23/2014 3:08:36 PM)
There's a peculiarity in this game that, probably, I wasn't able to describe or explain much: we do not have any air superiority anywhere, not even over our own bases. We've been able to conquer that part of Malaya with gamble. Para-drops and fast transports. But my TFs aren't safe anywhere. Not even at Sebang, where I have 1700 Aviation support and 300 fighters... Hordes of KI-84r come sweeping at 38,830 feet whenever I try to raise my CAP and everything get slaughtered. The 4Es cannot bomb anything which is protected. Singapore has 600 3rd generation fighters and more than 1300 of them are based between Kotha Baru and Jahore Baru and SInga. I tried. God knows I tried to bomb Singapore or Kotha Baru. 250 P-47s on sweep at 42,000, followed by 90 B-29s and some 200 Liberators "J". Fun, right? No. For 5 days I've tried that. For five days I got slaughtered. More than 80 planes shot down by flak (flying between 15 and 20k), 200 bombers lost in A2A. P-47s often shown up after the bombers (despite taking off from the same "super" base of Sebang). 200 Hellcats lost on escort...and, above all, Singa was always operative. Damages were minimal. Then I tried the combo: Naval bombing + 4Es... same results. Several ships sunk due to mines or CD guns. The AF never closed...and the following morning my 4Es got slaughtered again. So, the problem is... Palembang is the only possible port on the other side of Sumatra. If I don't get it, I cannot bypass Singapore. Having reached the sea at Singora and Pantani worths nothing because my ships can't get there. We can't bypass Singa and we can't reach Palembang by sea. He can keep on sending convoys full of supplies to Singa. I simply cannot avoid it. My subs are sunk constantly or rendered useless. I even tried fast DD raids...but I can't pass Singapore... if I don't get sunk by mines+CD guns (already lost a complete TF composed of 3 CL+8DDs in that way), I got sunk by his dive bombers the very next morning. If I could get Palembang then i'll have a port south of Singapore and I could start to move eastwards... Untill that moment, the door to the east is blocked

Lokasenna -> RE: India again??...why always me?!!? (1/23/2014 4:16:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GreyJoy There's a peculiarity in this game that, probably, I wasn't able to describe or explain much: we do not have any air superiority anywhere, not even over our own bases. We've been able to conquer that part of Malaya with gamble. Para-drops and fast transports. But my TFs aren't safe anywhere. Not even at Sebang, where I have 1700 Aviation support and 300 fighters... Hordes of KI-84r come sweeping at 38,830 feet whenever I try to raise my CAP and everything get slaughtered. The 4Es cannot bomb anything which is protected. Singapore has 600 3rd generation fighters and more than 1300 of them are based between Kotha Baru and Jahore Baru and SInga. I tried. God knows I tried to bomb Singapore or Kotha Baru. 250 P-47s on sweep at 42,000, followed by 90 B-29s and some 200 Liberators "J". Fun, right? No. For 5 days I've tried that. For five days I got slaughtered. More than 80 planes shot down by flak (flying between 15 and 20k), 200 bombers lost in A2A. P-47s often shown up after the bombers (despite taking off from the same "super" base of Sebang). 200 Hellcats lost on escort...and, above all, Singa was always operative. Damages were minimal. Then I tried the combo: Naval bombing + 4Es... same results. Several ships sunk due to mines or CD guns. The AF never closed...and the following morning my 4Es got slaughtered again. So, the problem is... Palembang is the only possible port on the other side of Sumatra. If I don't get it, I cannot bypass Singapore. Having reached the sea at Singora and Pantani worths nothing because my ships can't get there. We can't bypass Singa and we can't reach Palembang by sea. He can keep on sending convoys full of supplies to Singa. I simply cannot avoid it. My subs are sunk constantly or rendered useless. I even tried fast DD raids...but I can't pass Singapore... if I don't get sunk by mines+CD guns (already lost a complete TF composed of 3 CL+8DDs in that way), I got sunk by his dive bombers the very next morning. If I could get Palembang then i'll have a port south of Singapore and I could start to move eastwards... Untill that moment, the door to the east is blocked I just want to say that it's refreshing to read about these kinds of results from an Allied dog (even if you have played Japan in other games, you're an Allied dog in this one!) without a defeatist tone. It sounds like you're drawing up a new plan. If I were in your position, I'd probably thrust at Balikpapan while maintaining enough forces in Malaya to try again there if he moves things east for defense. It sounds like he has so much stuff at Singapore that he might be a bit thing elsewhere.

CaptBeefheart -> RE: India again??...why always me?!!? (1/27/2014 7:50:49 AM)
Boy, with seemingly everything Japanese tied up in that theater (AAA, LCUs, av support, fighters, etc.), I wonder how a NorPac or CenPac thrust would work. Of course, you can't just switch your axis of advance on a dime. Cheers, CC

GreyJoy -> RE: India again??...why always me?!!? (2/2/2014 6:48:18 PM)
Been to a party.... The theme was: james bonds and bod girls.... I was miss Money Penny [:D] [image]local://upfiles/37890/5BAEEFBB5F944CB69CD4822CBE409E14.jpg[/image]

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