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larryfulkerson -> RE: Field Marshal von Fogger vs Comrade Marshal Fulkerson (9/1/2013 6:10:19 AM)

Here's how the air war is going: I'm down to my last 900 biplanes ( I-15 ) and those and the I-16's are carrying the brunt of the war so
far so I'm not surprised that there is a, like, 5 to 1 ratio of losses going on. Maybe I should re-think the early deployment of the aircraft
and pull them back to safety. But I really need to start whittling down the number of Axis fighters somehow. Maybe as a compromise I
could pull the bombers back as the air over the front lines is a bit too hot still for bombers.

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larryfulkerson -> RE: Field Marshal von Fogger vs Comrade Marshal Fulkerson (9/1/2013 6:14:19 AM)

This is the Soviet losses in Rifle Squads as of the beginning of T12.

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larryfulkerson -> RE: Field Marshal von Fogger vs Comrade Marshal Fulkerson (9/1/2013 6:30:23 AM)

Here's a close up of the area where John's units jumped across the river and is racing to envelope my dudes.

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larryfulkerson -> RE: Field Marshal von Fogger vs Comrade Marshal Fulkerson (9/1/2013 8:17:37 AM)

Here's a closeup of the Odessa area now:

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larryfulkerson -> RE: Field Marshal von Fogger vs Comrade Marshal Fulkerson (9/1/2013 8:55:40 AM)

Somehow I succeeded in sneaking a tank unit into John's AO and captured his port after about 4 ignore losses attacks in a row.

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fogger -> RE: Field Marshal von Fogger vs Comrade Marshal Fulkerson (9/1/2013 9:18:17 AM)

I did not see that coming. However as I have my forces are now over the Bug the port is not so important and the unit it will be lost to Larry in due course. (I hope)



fogger -> RE: Field Marshal von Fogger vs Comrade Marshal Fulkerson (9/1/2013 2:20:54 PM)

Larry was not able to dig in and I have recaptured the port on my first attack.



larryfulkerson -> RE: Field Marshal von Fogger vs Comrade Marshal Fulkerson (9/1/2013 2:26:29 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: fogger
Larry was not able to dig in and I have recaptured the port on my first attack.

D'oh.



fogger -> RE: Field Marshal von Fogger vs Comrade Marshal Fulkerson (9/2/2013 2:24:42 PM)

Larry's forces in Murmansk were destroyed this turn along with 1 inf div that was covering his withdrawal along the 132x32 to 155x32 hex row. He has moved an Inf div and cav div plus some eng units to the bridge at 148x32. Unsure if he will counter attack or just defened the position. From my position it is a holding position. The action will be to the south.

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fogger -> RE: Field Marshal von Fogger vs Comrade Marshal Fulkerson (9/2/2013 2:27:40 PM)

In the south I have recaptured the port at 140x209 and bagged another 3 div's.

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fogger -> RE: Field Marshal von Fogger vs Comrade Marshal Fulkerson (9/2/2013 2:32:18 PM)

Inf losses have been heavy the past two turns. Lsses are due to heavy attacks against units in my rear.

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fogger -> RE: Field Marshal von Fogger vs Comrade Marshal Fulkerson (9/2/2013 2:35:51 PM)

and tank losses

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fogger -> RE: Field Marshal von Fogger vs Comrade Marshal Fulkerson (9/2/2013 2:40:21 PM)

and air losses

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fogger -> RE: Field Marshal von Fogger vs Comrade Marshal Fulkerson (9/2/2013 2:43:53 PM)

Larry has moved some air units forward so I hit his airfields again this turn. This what my intl people tell me.

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Petey -> RE: Field Marshal von Fogger vs Comrade Marshal Fulkerson (9/2/2013 4:10:52 PM)

Thanks for the Axis status update. Please tell me again what the premise of this WITE mod is? What's been changed?



larryfulkerson -> RE: Field Marshal von Fogger vs Comrade Marshal Fulkerson (9/2/2013 4:23:31 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Petey
Thanks for the Axis status update.

Yeah, thanks Fogger dude.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Petey
Please tell me again what the premise of this WITE mod is? What's been changed?

What's the premise? I donno that it has one. I know the house rules are changed, and the Axis minor allies have their squads broken
out by nationality instead of the generic Rifle Squads now. I'm not sure what all has been changed......Fogger would know more about
that than I would.



larryfulkerson -> RE: Field Marshal von Fogger vs Comrade Marshal Fulkerson (9/2/2013 4:25:11 PM)

Here's the northern part of the front lines. Murmansk fell big time and the Axis units are running rampent.



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larryfulkerson -> RE: Field Marshal von Fogger vs Comrade Marshal Fulkerson (9/2/2013 4:31:15 PM)

Here's the front lines a little further south. Not much is changing at Leningrad itself.

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larryfulkerson -> RE: Field Marshal von Fogger vs Comrade Marshal Fulkerson (9/2/2013 4:33:46 PM)

Here's the front lines in the Kiev area now:

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larryfulkerson -> RE: Field Marshal von Fogger vs Comrade Marshal Fulkerson (9/2/2013 4:36:54 PM)

And finally, here's the front lines down in the Odessa area:

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larryfulkerson -> RE: Field Marshal von Fogger vs Comrade Marshal Fulkerson (9/2/2013 4:38:09 PM)

Here's the latest on the Soviet air war:

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Lobster -> RE: Field Marshal von Fogger vs Comrade Marshal Fulkerson (9/2/2013 4:47:35 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: fogger

Inf losses have been heavy the past two turns. Lsses are due to heavy attacks against units in my rear.



Ouch. That must have been a painful operation. Was a local anesthetic used or a general?

Looks like the Axis is falling well behind the historical time table. Are the heavy losses during mop up because of ignore losses while fortified?



larryfulkerson -> RE: Field Marshal von Fogger vs Comrade Marshal Fulkerson (9/2/2013 6:59:21 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lobster
Looks like the Axis is falling well behind the historical time table.

Is it really? I've been rushing units forward just to get in the way of the Axis advance and my losses have been gynormous. I'm hoping
all that sacrifice will buy me enough time to get my reinforcements to the forward areas. And it was my impression that John was doing
rather well for himself. Except for that aborted invasion just to the NW of Sevastapol he's had no failures anywhere so far. And I've
been scrambling for units and moving them seems like the entire game so far. I'm having a blast.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lobster
Are the heavy losses during mop up because of ignore losses while fortified?

This would be my guess too. I've been scrupulous in putting everybody I can change into ignore losses state and digging them in. So
I would guess that John's losses will be higher than they would if I hadn't done that. I'm guessing here.



Petey -> RE: Field Marshal von Fogger vs Comrade Marshal Fulkerson (9/2/2013 7:08:13 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lobster

quote:

ORIGINAL: fogger

Inf losses have been heavy the past two turns. Lsses are due to heavy attacks against units in my rear.



Ouch. That must have been a painful operation. Was a local anesthetic used or a general?

Looks like the Axis is falling well behind the historical time table. Are the heavy losses during mop up because of ignore losses while fortified?


I too felt that the Axis is a little behind the historical ground capture. That said, he is spending a lot of time and units eliminating surrounded Soviet units. The upside for him is that it takes the Soviet kills out of the replacement pool.



larryfulkerson -> RE: Field Marshal von Fogger vs Comrade Marshal Fulkerson (9/2/2013 7:12:49 PM)

quote:


I too felt that the Axis is a little behind the historical ground capture. That said, he is spending a lot of time and units eliminating surrounded Soviet units. The upside for him is that it takes the Soviet kills out of the replacement pool.

I guess it's official then......John is falling behind the historical schedule and that means it's possible that the Soviets may be winning?
And the Soviet losses HAVE been higher than "normal" too.

Here's some of the losses so far:

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larryfulkerson -> RE: Field Marshal von Fogger vs Comrade Marshal Fulkerson (9/2/2013 7:20:04 PM)

Here's the condition of the aircraft. I've been holding back those aircraft that are below about 75% in readiness and moving them into
the action as they qualify for it. I've been thinking that maybe that's the wrong way to do it. I'm thinking that maybe I should hold them
all back until they are all ready and then deploy all of them simultaneously. That way they would support each other better. What do
you guys think?

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Petey -> RE: Field Marshal von Fogger vs Comrade Marshal Fulkerson (9/2/2013 7:20:06 PM)

Then again, capturing Murmansk is a big deal



larryfulkerson -> RE: Field Marshal von Fogger vs Comrade Marshal Fulkerson (9/2/2013 7:24:59 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Petey
Then again, capturing Murmansk is a big deal

I agree. I'll probably miss that 5% in production sooner or later. On the other hand there's nothing industry-wise that John can destroy
up there and now that he's got it he will have to defend it the rest of the game. Or until I can take it back whichever occurs first. To tell
you guys the truth I'm not all that interested in fighting the war that far north. If it weren't for having to hold Leningrad I'd much rather
use those defenders to defend Moscow. Or somewhere.



Josh -> RE: Field Marshal von Fogger vs Comrade Marshal Fulkerson (9/2/2013 7:32:05 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Petey

Then again, capturing Murmansk is a big deal


Yeah I love it when that happens, let's see how that works out.
@ Larry; I'd use up all the obsolete (bi-) planes, they're scrap anyways, and be more careful with the better planes.



larryfulkerson -> RE: Field Marshal von Fogger vs Comrade Marshal Fulkerson (9/2/2013 7:33:12 PM)

Here's that one area just south of Murmansk where I can bottleneck the Axis units, perhaps permanently. I need to repair the bridge
however if I want to defend to the west of it. The supply drop is significant.

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