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Rob322 -> RE: Import/Export Facilities DB (1/31/2021 4:54:38 PM)

I've focused my energies on the PVO, but there's a ton of interesting facilities in these necks of the woods. Frontal Aviation, Naval Aviation, what might be a mobile ICBM/MRBM base and a metric ton of ammo facilities (not sure for which branches). Let me know if you're seeking anything else.



Rob322 -> RE: Import/Export Facilities DB (1/31/2021 5:37:51 PM)

Okay, I realized I screwed up Spassk-Dalniy. I was so focused on it's role as a Mig-23 base in the PVO that I missed it was also home to the 219th independent Long-Range Reconnaissance Aviation Regiment flying TU-16R's! I meant no disrespect but all I can say is the aerials I'm looking at to make some bases are really showing me the remains of bases and sometimes you don't see it all. Anyhow, I've upgraded this and now you should be able to use Spassk-Dalniy to both defend the Motherland with your Mig's while spying on the decadent forces of capitalism with your long range recon assets. As always, any mistakes are mine and if anyone has thoughts or suggestions, I'm all ears.



Rob322 -> RE: Import/Export Facilities DB (1/31/2021 7:33:42 PM)

Here is the 25th Sakhalinskaya Air Defence Division, another component of the 11th independent Red Banner Air Defence Army guarding the Far Eastern portion of the Soviet Union (later Russia). These units are assigned to some of the most isolated and inaccessible locations with weather that can likely be quite beastly. I'm not sure if being assigned to the 25th was considered an honor (as you're trusted to be close to on your own) or as a punishment but I can imagine it was a lonely existence.

The 25th had the following units assigned:

1. 171st FIghter Aviation Regiment: A PVO regiment equipped with SU-15T's in an air defense role and based at Ugolnye Kopi. It was disbanded in 1992. The airbase came with the game so is not included in the zip file.

2. 762nd Anti-Aircraft Missile Regiment: An SA-2 regiment with four battalions guarding the area around the Ugolyne Kopi Airbase. Disbanded in 1992.

3. 1242nd Anti-Aircraft Missile Regiment: An SA-2 regiment guarding the Provideniya port and airbase. Also disbanded in 1992.

4. 129th Radio-Technical Brigade: A radar brigade dispersed over nine sites providing radar coverage for the farthest parts of eastern Siberia. The brigade disbanded in 1998 but some sites appear active when viewed on commercial platforms such as Google.





Mgellis -> RE: Import/Export Facilities DB (1/31/2021 9:08:04 PM)

These are great! Keep going! (Do some for Africa, the Middle East, Central Asia, and Southeast Asia?) Thanks!



Rob322 -> RE: Import/Export Facilities DB (1/31/2021 10:40:53 PM)

Okay, here is the 29th Amurskaya Air Defence Division, a small air defense division in the western part of the 11th independent Red Banner Air Defence Army. It has no assigned aviation assets but a SAM Brigade, two SAM Regiments and a Radar Brigade.

1. 110th Anti-Aircraft Missile Brigade: A brigade employing SA-2, -3 and -5 missiles and guarding the border with China. Disbanded in 1994.

2. 112th Anti-Aircraft Missile Regiment: A three battalion SA-2 regiment that existed here from 1972-1993.

3. 237th Guards Anti-Aircraft Missile Regiment: Another three battalion SA-2 regiment from 1976-1994.

4. 47th Radio-Technical Brigade: A brigade-level formation with six radar sites scattered along the northerly portions of the Soviet-Chinese border.

So that completes the 11th independent Red Banner Air Defence Army for the defense of the Soviet Far East area. Hope you enjoy blowing it up (or protecting it)!



Gunner98 -> RE: Import/Export Facilities DB (2/1/2021 9:58:29 AM)

Thank you very much once again Rob.

If you have time, Naval Aviation and Frontal Aviation bases would be fantastic, I think some of them are in the game already but it's a bit hit & miss. No rush.

Together these make one heck of a good laydown of the Soviet/Russian Far East which has been in many scenarios.

Cheers



DetlefKroeze -> RE: Import/Export Facilities DB (2/1/2021 10:44:51 AM)

Here's selection of various facilites I've created over the years. I originally posted a smaller version of this over on the CMANO subreddit but since I'm now able to add files to my posts I'll share them here as well.

Included are:
--Late Cold War air defences for Czechoslovakia (EW incomplete), East Germany, Poland (missing EW), Romania (missing EW), and the USSR (incomplete).
--Four West German highway strips
--Sondrestrom AB and Thule AB in Greenland
--Den Helder NB, Leeuwarden AB, Twente AB, Valkenburg AB, and Volkel AB in The Netherlands
--Several UK Naval and Air bases.
--A handful of Soviet navy facilities
--A variety of Russian EW sites.

I hope that they're useful.



Rob322 -> RE: Import/Export Facilities DB (2/2/2021 4:13:20 AM)

As I've done a number of bases, you start to get some ideas about the ways the various militaries act and think. Russia is no exception and I was looking at some bases recently that looked a bit ramshackle. And while many have hardened shelters (camouflaged to boot) for their airplanes, the ammo often sits out in the open. So today I was looking at a naval base with Backfires and found a bunch of what appears to be AS-4 Kitchen missiles sitting out. Granted, ammo bunkers big enough to accommodate such beasts would be expensive to design and build but, really, is this the best way? They're one accident away from having the Backfires take on a US CVBG with gravity bombs! [8D][:D][:-]



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PN79 -> RE: Import/Export Facilities DB (2/2/2021 4:43:23 PM)

There is question if these missiles are destined to be scrapped anyway.

But the question about ammunition storage and especially missiles is valid. During the Cold War WarPac PVOS's SAM Regiments/Brigades had usually one or more technical battalions where the missiles were stored while SAM units itself during peacetime had only limited amount of missiles (in Czechoslovakia SA-2 battalion had only 12 missiles in normal conditions). Thus hitting such facilities early could cause quite a big capacity reduction.

This actually happened in 1999 during Allied Force in Yugoslavia when such storage depot with SA-3 missiles was hit early on and destroying quite a large number of missiles. Yugoslavian SA-3 battalions were then constrained by limited amount of available missiles till the end of war.



Gunner98 -> RE: Import/Export Facilities DB (2/2/2021 5:07:37 PM)

Ammunition storage standards in the WP were somewhat different than in NATO.

Had occasion to visit a former East German NVA base in 1992, it was mostly deserted but the escorting Bundeswehr Colonel showed us this large empty building. The only stuff left in it were oil stains and garbage but he said that it was for a divisional ammunition transport battalion.

In its day, there were almost 100 trucks parked fender to fender in the building blocked up on railway ties (cut to size on end, there were a few left over) - loaded with ammunition! With the help of a few sledge hammers the trucks would just drive away and be ready for battle. He also said they only found one map in the entire battalion, in the commanders truck. It was like a role of toilet paper and unrolled with strip of detail about an inch wide - starting at the camps front gate and ending in western France...



BDukes -> RE: Import/Export Facilities DB (2/2/2021 11:16:26 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Rob322

As I've done a number of bases, you start to get some ideas about the ways the various militaries act and think. Russia is no exception and I was looking at some bases recently that looked a bit ramshackle. And while many have hardened shelters (camouflaged to boot) for their airplanes, the ammo often sits out in the open. So today I was looking at a naval base with Backfires and found a bunch of what appears to be AS-4 Kitchen missiles sitting out. Granted, ammo bunkers big enough to accommodate such beasts would be expensive to design and build but, really, is this the best way? They're one accident away from having the Backfires take on a US CVBG with gravity bombs! [8D][:D][:-]



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I'm afraid I don't agree. This looks more like weapons disposal site than any kind of active storage.

Mike



Rob322 -> RE: Import/Export Facilities DB (2/3/2021 2:26:52 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BDukes


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ORIGINAL: Rob322

As I've done a number of bases, you start to get some ideas about the ways the various militaries act and think. Russia is no exception and I was looking at some bases recently that looked a bit ramshackle. And while many have hardened shelters (camouflaged to boot) for their airplanes, the ammo often sits out in the open. So today I was looking at a naval base with Backfires and found a bunch of what appears to be AS-4 Kitchen missiles sitting out. Granted, ammo bunkers big enough to accommodate such beasts would be expensive to design and build but, really, is this the best way? They're one accident away from having the Backfires take on a US CVBG with gravity bombs! [8D][:D][:-]



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I'm afraid I don't agree. This looks more like weapons disposal site than any kind of active storage.

Mike



Interesting, that would make a lot of sense frankly. Thanks for the insight!



Rob322 -> RE: Import/Export Facilities DB (2/6/2021 4:55:46 AM)

The main Frontal Aviation units in the Soviet Far East were all under control of the 1st Red Banner Air Army.

Most of the Frontal Aviation bases were included in the Far Eastern area but a few needed to be added.

1. Khabarovsk-Bolshoy Airbase: Located in the eastern edge of Khabarovsk, this base is the station for the 257th independent Mixed Aviation Regiment, a transportation unit flying over time the AN-10, AN-12, AN-24, AN-26, TU-134, TU-154, IL-18, IL-20/22, Mi-6, Mi-8 and Mi-17.

2. Ozernaya Airbase: The former home to the 224th Fighter-Bomber Aviation Regiment (flying Mig-23's and -27's in 1989/1990), a regiment of the 303rd Smolenskaya Red Banner Fighter-Bomber Aviation Division. The base appeared to have extensive basing capability but it appears to be in the process of turning into ruins and it's very difficult to decipher what was from aerial imagery.

3. Vozzhaevka Airbase: This field was home to two regiments in the late 1980's, first the 56th Bomber Aviation Regiment of the 83rd Bomber Aviation Division flying SU-24's. The second unit was the 293rd independent Reconnaissance Aviation Regiment. Around 1990, this unit had two squardons of Mig-25's and one with SU-17M3R's. Within a couple years the unit recycled their existing jets for SU-24MR's.




BDukes -> RE: Import/Export Facilities DB (2/6/2021 12:59:50 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Rob322


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ORIGINAL: BDukes


quote:

ORIGINAL: Rob322

As I've done a number of bases, you start to get some ideas about the ways the various militaries act and think. Russia is no exception and I was looking at some bases recently that looked a bit ramshackle. And while many have hardened shelters (camouflaged to boot) for their airplanes, the ammo often sits out in the open. So today I was looking at a naval base with Backfires and found a bunch of what appears to be AS-4 Kitchen missiles sitting out. Granted, ammo bunkers big enough to accommodate such beasts would be expensive to design and build but, really, is this the best way? They're one accident away from having the Backfires take on a US CVBG with gravity bombs! [8D][:D][:-]



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I'm afraid I don't agree. This looks more like weapons disposal site than any kind of active storage.

Mike



Interesting, that would make a lot of sense frankly. Thanks for the insight!


No prob. You do hope everybody that works there has had their tetanus shots. I will never understand the Russian's practice of leaving stuff out to rot. Heck we at least haul our junk out to the desert! Maybe I should work on a "you gots the tetanus mod" for ARMA.

Mike



Gunner98 -> RE: Import/Export Facilities DB (2/6/2021 3:00:35 PM)

Great stuff thank you



Rob322 -> RE: Import/Export Facilities DB (2/6/2021 9:13:12 PM)


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I will never understand the Russian's practice of leaving stuff out to rot. Heck we at least haul our junk out to the desert! Maybe I should work on a "you gots the tetanus mod" for ARMA.

Mike

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No kidding! I've been looking at ports and you can clearly see the half sunken remains of ships and even subs poking out of the water. Guess they don't plan to use the harbor for anything else. [&:][8|]



Rob322 -> RE: Import/Export Facilities DB (2/6/2021 9:13:42 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Gunner98

Great stuff thank you



You're welcome!



Rob322 -> RE: Import/Export Facilities DB (2/7/2021 4:11:35 AM)

So, here's a few more random selections from the Soviet/Russian Far East. This is pretty random and eclectic but there's probably something for everyone here.

1. Birofeld Airbase: A Frontal Aviation base equipped with the 229th Fighter-Bomber Aviation Regiment and flying SU-17's. The regiment only appears to have existed in the 1980's, disbanding in 1989. The airfield is now in advanced state of deterioration.

2. Duga-3 Radars: Centered near Komsomolsk-on-Amur, these radars were part of the overall Soviet Ballistic Missile Defense system. Was known as "The Russian Woodpecker" for it's distinctive and repetitive tapping noise when in operation.

3. Khorol Airbase: A bomber base for naval aviation flying the TU-16 under control of the 141st Guards Maritime Missile Aviation Regiment.

4. Korsakov Airbase: A small base on Sakhalin Island, the 55th independent Anti-Submarine Helicopter Squadron was based here in the 1980's.

5. Leonidovo Airbase: A naval reserve airbase on Sakhalin Island, it was the temporary home the 141st Regiment mentioned in #3 when the permanent home of the regiment was being upgraded. Very little is left.

6. Novonezhino Airbase: A helicopter base, it was the home base for the helos of the 710th independent Shipborne Anti-Submarine Helicopter Regiment.

7. Pavlovsk Bay Naval Base: A home to numerous nuclear subs from the 1960's to 1990's, including a couple of Boomers.

8. Petropavlovsk Naval Base: The main sub base of the Soviet/Russian Pacific Fleet.

9. Sovetskaya Gavan Naval Base: A small base, during the 1980's it was home port for 5-6 older nuclear subs.



Rob322 -> RE: Import/Export Facilities DB (2/9/2021 10:26:35 PM)

Here is Maygatka Airbase. Maygatka is just to the west of the city of Sovetskaya Gavan. It was built in World War II and served as the home station for the 570th Maritime Torpedo Aviation Regiment, which flew here from 1945-1953 before relocating north to Mongokhto. Maygatka doesn't seem to have acquired a new regiment but rather was still used by the 570th (and possibly others) as a dispersal field, hence the limited facilities. It's unknown how long the military kept control over it but I would assume for much of the Cold War it served as a ready dispersal base for Soviet Naval Aviation.



Rob322 -> RE: Import/Export Facilities DB (2/10/2021 12:32:45 AM)

So here are four Ammo facilities in the Sovetskaya Gavan region. Three of them still appear to exist, often with less extensive facilities than the Soviet days. It's not clear if these belong to the Navy or one of the other branches, either in total or in part. While they're near Sovetskaya Gavan, that port didn't seem large enough to handle the rearming of many combatants. Still, though, whatever they served, they're scattered across the region and I could imagine some of you might enjoy blowing them up!



Rob322 -> RE: Import/Export Facilities DB (2/10/2021 1:19:19 AM)

Here's a collection of coastal defense regiments/brigades covering the Kuriles, Sakhalin, the coast along the Sea of Japan and Petropavlovsk.



Rob322 -> RE: Import/Export Facilities DB (2/11/2021 3:43:10 AM)

Arbek Bay, home to numerous Soviet/Russian Pacific Fleet surface units including 2xKiev CVH's and the Frunze BCGN plus Kara's, Kresta I/II's, Kotlins, Kashins, etc.



Rob322 -> RE: Import/Export Facilities DB (2/12/2021 3:01:39 AM)

Starting to fill out Pacific Fleet facilities.

1. Konyushkovy Bay: Home to the 9th Submarine Division with 8 Golf II SSB's. The 9th disbanded in 1988 and the base appears to have fallen into disuse.

2. Rakushka Naval Base: A base between Vladivostok and Sovetskaya Gavan, it was the home station of the 29th Submarine Division, which had Golf II's in the 1960s-70s and Echo II and Juliett cruise missile subs in the 1980s-90s. The division disbanded in 1994 and the base no longer appears active.

3. Vladivostok Naval Base: The huge waterfront, with multiple bays has a lot of real estate and frankly this is a guess of it's capabilities. It seems a lot of the Soviet battle squadrons were stationed in Arbek Bay to the east, but you will always still find some of the fleet tied up here. Ammo facilities are very notional as was the fuel. Feel free to drop suggestions or edit as you desire.




Gunner98 -> RE: Import/Export Facilities DB (2/12/2021 10:51:59 AM)

Great stuff - thanks a bunch!



Rob322 -> RE: Import/Export Facilities DB (2/12/2021 5:56:51 PM)

Sure, I also discovered a couple airbases for Long Range Aviation that I'll do this weekend. After that, I'm not sure if there's much left of the Far East.



Gunner98 -> RE: Import/Export Facilities DB (2/12/2021 6:42:15 PM)

Fantastic,

I believe the LRA bases are: Zavitinsk, east of Blagoveshchensk; Vozdvizhenka north of Vladivostok; and Belaya which is way over in Irkutsk (although I may have misplaced that) - all part of the 30th Air Army.

Are you tracking the same ones?

B



Rob322 -> RE: Import/Export Facilities DB (2/13/2021 1:56:08 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Gunner98

Fantastic,

I believe the LRA bases are: Zavitinsk, east of Blagoveshchensk; Vozdvizhenka north of Vladivostok; and Belaya which is way over in Irkutsk (although I may have misplaced that) - all part of the 30th Air Army.

Are you tracking the same ones?

B


Yes, see below!

1. Belaya Airbase: A large facility near Lake Baikal, Belaya has been home to several bomber regiments over time as well as a PVO regiment for a time. Around 1990, it was home to the 31st Heavy Bomber Aviation Division with the 1225th and 1229th Heavy Bomber Aviation Regiments, each flying TU-22M2/3's.

2. Zavitinsk Airbase: Another facility flying Long Range Aviation assets, in this case this was a TU-16 Regiment, the 303rd Heavy Bomber. Two squadrons were equipped with TU-16K's, one with ELINT aircraft. The other regiment, the 444th, was to the south at Vozdvizhenka but that base is in the stock game.

3. Zavitinsk Ammo: I waffled on whether to include but it was too good to not. Located between the airbase above and the town of Zavitinsk, this is a large ammo facility that doesn't seem (to me at least) associated with the airbase as it's really large. Scenario designers of course can use as they wish or just set it there as a nice target.



Gunner98 -> RE: Import/Export Facilities DB (2/13/2021 11:05:43 AM)

Rob322 Thank you very much for all of this.

Attached is an .SCEN file with all of the Soviet Far East forces based on 1994 Northern Fury, so this is not exactly historic but a representation of what might have existed if the USSR had continued.

So layered on top of Rob's bases are:

-The Red Banner Pacific Fleet (not in the ports)
-Pacific Fleet Aviation
-30th Air Army VKG (Strategic Forces LRA)
-11th Red Banner Air Defence Army PVO
-1st Red Banner Air Army VVS

Although this was a distant 3rd priority (1st being Strategic, 2nd being forces facing NATO) for Soviet defence, it is impressive.

This will be my grab box when building Pacific Fury scenarios.

B.



BeirutDude -> RE: Import/Export Facilities DB (2/13/2021 11:49:06 AM)

So are all of these getting into the database with new builds/updates?



Rob322 -> RE: Import/Export Facilities DB (2/13/2021 2:29:26 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Gunner98

Rob322 Thank you very much for all of this.

Attached is an .SCEN file with all of the Soviet Far East forces based on 1994 Northern Fury, so this is not exactly historic but a representation of what might have existed if the USSR had continued.

So layered on top of Rob's bases are:

-The Red Banner Pacific Fleet (not in the ports)
-Pacific Fleet Aviation
-30th Air Army VKG (Strategic Forces LRA)
-11th Red Banner Air Defence Army PVO
-1st Red Banner Air Army VVS

Although this was a distant 3rd priority (1st being Strategic, 2nd being forces facing NATO) for Soviet defence, it is impressive.

This will be my grab box when building Pacific Fury scenarios.

B.



Gunner, no problem, I'm happy to help. Also, thanks for the preview, it's neat to see all of the facilities at once, plus A/C and the fleet! Looking forward to blowing it all up!



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