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Lowpe -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (8/28/2014 4:20:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Spidery The fuel and oil stocks in Japan are sufficient to last about a year after oil supplies are cut off. This makes it possible that strategic damage to HI will mean I can't actually use all the fuel I have accumulated. I have a feeling it would have made some sense to expand some HI. Well, start burning the fuel then! Go wild with KB. Obvert had everything left but supplies really...I think he was low on vehicles too come to think of it and this in a scen 1 game.

Spidery -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (8/28/2014 4:49:08 PM)
quote: Well, start burning the fuel then! Go wild with KB. Obvert had everything left but supplies really...I think he was low on vehicles too come to think of it and this in a scen 1 game. Too early to do that but something to think about. It does mean my convoys run with many escorts and I keep ASW forces at sea etc. despite little sub threat. Also means I don't mind using the Yamato etc. Trouble is that fuel is supply (in that it converts 1->1 when passed through HI). In this game, with refineries not producing supply, without the later changes to DBB to add extra supply generation, etc. supply production is on the low side and I need all the supply I can save. My strategy was to capture the DEI early, defend Magwe heavily, conserve fuel, etc. I think I may have missed a point that with that strategy it is best to build some HI.

Lowpe -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (8/28/2014 6:23:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Spidery My strategy was to capture the DEI early, defend Magwe heavily, conserve fuel, etc. I think I may have missed a point that with that strategy it is best to build some HI. I think it was to win the air war.[:D] How much would you have increased the HI if you could do it again? Do you think your fuel situation is so strong because of the ACM fuel fix?

Spidery -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (9/1/2014 9:32:51 AM)
May 22nd 1943 Air Losses: 5 Japanese, 0 Allied, 3 Pilots Japanese occupy: Allies occupy: Japanese land at: Allies land at: Subs Quiet Solomons 6 PB4Y-1 try a night strike at shipping. No effect. Burma Try a strike at the Allied air base at Silchar. Night strikes fail to fly. Sweep finds no enemy. High-level bombing has little effect. Engineering Sorong airfield to 6. Saumlaki forts to 5. Ambon forts to 6. R&D Quiet Reinforcements SS I-182, SC CHa-33

Spidery -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (9/1/2014 10:09:00 AM)
Sub wars I just don't seem to be getting the results described in other AARs. My raiding subs hardly ever find targets and quite often don't engage, even if they are in the same hex as a nice juicy convoy at the end of the turn. On the other hand, they aren't spotted by air ASW and are rarely damaged by surface ASW. I've lost 9 subs so far in 1943 but 7 of those were in the vicinity of Allied carriers. Claimed kills for the subs in 1943, 14 ships: 2 AO, 1 AKA, 1 BB, 1 DD, 1 SC, 2 ACM, 1 CM, 4 AK type and 1 AM to a mine. His subs attack the shipping from Japan out to Marianas, Truk, etc. and from DEI towards Rabaul but avoid the main convoy areas. Most of his subs operate as spotting/support with his fleet. He, mostly, avoids getting close to my air ASW. However, I usually have a few subs spotted each day and some ASW assets in hex with them but frequently they don't engage and when they do actual hits are as common as hens teeth. It seems to need 3 hits from a Type 2 DC to kill a sub. Claimed Allied subs lost for 1943 are 2 both to air ASW and therefore unconfirmed. Total losses to Allied subs in 1943: 14 ships, 1 xAP, 3 PB, 1 CA, 1 AV, 1 SS, 4 TK, 1 SC, 1 AO, 1 DMS. So, how do I get my subs to engage more often and how do I get my surface ASW to engage and score hits more often?

Spidery -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (9/1/2014 10:24:35 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lowpe quote: ORIGINAL: Spidery My strategy was to capture the DEI early, defend Magwe heavily, conserve fuel, etc. I think I may have missed a point that with that strategy it is best to build some HI. I think it was to win the air war.[:D] How much would you have increased the HI if you could do it again? 150 points built at the start of the war would now have paid off their supply cost and would give a million more supply at mid 1944. So something like 100 to 150 would seem okay. quote: Do you think your fuel situation is so strong because of the ACM fuel fix? The ACM fix saves about 30,000 fuel a month. It was applied in December so that is only about 150,000 fuel and would have had about 350,000 more fuel had it been there at the start. Magwe has been running about 10 months longer than I expected so that is about 750,000 fuel. I took the DEI maybe a month early so that is about 500,000 extra oil converted to fuel. Any more is down to fuel conservation.

GreyJoy -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (9/1/2014 10:26:43 AM)
The only real "secret" for subs is to have a non-existant passive D/L and a very high active D/L Also, after mid 1943, the best allied prays are the CVEs, which are mainly the slower ships in their offensive arsenal. The point is that, to get on them, you need to find them and flood their path with subs before their air ASW spots you...which is pretty hard to do To be honest I find that, after the first months, the best way to use the jap subs is to keep them in swarms, close to the front lines and to use them in connection with the main fleet. In my former game against QBall I even managed to score 7 hits with the midget subs using this strategy. Not a winning one, mind you, but at least you score some hits

Spidery -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (9/1/2014 10:59:55 AM)
May 23rd 1943 Air Losses: 3 Japanese, 19 Allied, 2 Pilots Japanese occupy: Allies occupy: Japanese land at: Allies land at: Subs I-32 sinks TK Capsa near Karachi Solomons Endo Det shoots down a Kingfisher at night over Rabaul. Allies sweep Rabaul with Corsairs and Lightnings but this time I only have N1K1-J on CAP. 2 N1K1-J lost for 8 P-38F and 7 F4U-1. An excellent result[8D], probably also got some of his better pilots. Will he now try a low level bombing run so that I need to put some planes up to go after that? Burma Helens night bomb Silchar from 30,000 feet. Allied Beaufighter night fighters can't reach the bombers and they have a clear run. 1 B-25D1 and 1 P-47D2 destroyed on the ground. Cripes[sm=00000116.gif], Thunderbolts, I wasn't expecting to see those before July. An AMc is hit by a Dutch sub near Rangoon and remains afloat, but with 61/93/14/44 damage she isn't going to make the three hexes to Rangoon. Engineering Quiet R&D Quiet Reinforcements An 11,600 capacity TK.

Spidery -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (9/1/2014 11:08:43 AM)
Thanks GreyJoy, I have been keeping 1 or 2 subs up near Karachi and they have done okay. I have a few subs operating between San Francisco and Pearl and they have managed an occasional hit. A few keeping watch down near Perth. Most of the rest are spread out around the Marshalls and Solomons waiting for a chance on the enemy. When he attacks they can concentrate pretty quickly. Also, every sub that leaves Truk now takes a little supply to drop at one of the isolated bases before starting its sub patrol. The subs are still doing well in terms of VP of ships sunk against VP lost. I'm just aware that they will be less effective later so wan't to get as much as possible out of them early. Picture shows all task forces [image]local://upfiles/43194/C0DEDBECBC774C7ABCA6FD99276539C4.jpg[/image]

Spidery -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (9/1/2014 11:20:44 AM)
I could scuttle the damaged AMc to save its captain: lets have a look at him: CPT Hiranoa V.: Leadership 14, Inspiration 11, Naval 17, Land 2, Air 3, Admin 24, Aggression 10 Maybe I won't bother!

Lowpe -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (9/1/2014 12:08:03 PM)
Thunderbolts is fog of war perhaps?

Spidery -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (9/1/2014 1:03:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lowpe Thunderbolts is fog of war perhaps? I think he gets a few groups early, about 75 planes in total[:(]. I expect he upgraded some units to get them and, in a few days time when they are fixed, will strike at Magwe. I think I need to make some adjustments. I'll abandon Katha for a bit and put up a CAP over Magwe of only N1K1-J and Ki-84a. I can put about 150 of them in the air.

Lowpe -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (9/1/2014 2:05:59 PM)
The beginning of the end...who needs lions, and tigers, and bears when there are fletchers, and thunderbolts, and essexes? Oh my. Well, it could be worse. Your fighters could be Oscar IIbs. [:D] Still, it is mid 43 and you are in excellent shape. Unfortunately, the Allies are too. It is going to be incredibly violent!

Spidery -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (9/1/2014 3:43:25 PM)
May 24th 1943 Air Losses: 0 Japanese, 0 Allied, 0 Pilots Japanese occupy: Allies occupy: Japanese land at: Allies land at: Subs Surface ASW forces engage 3 enemy subs and score minor hits. Solomons A DE has been hanging around just to the East of Munda, on a route my subs have passed through on occasion. I sneaked Atago and a long-legged destroyer out to the East of Rabaul and sent them in fast. During the night they find the DE Litchfield and sink her (only 5 VP but satisfying). Possibly not good economics as the two ships burn 1400 fuel and the supply cost for 12 long lances and a few shells. Send recce over Lunga. 157 ships reported as in port. An 8 DD force protecting it and some sort of transport task force. 115 fighters, 190 bombers, 155 auxiliary (that is a lot of airlift). Air field is size 8 so they must be over-stacked (unless there are a lot of float planes and AVD present). Tried a night strike against Lunga port but it failed to fly. I suspect the West Virginia is in there getting the initial damage fixed. Burma Night strike at Silchar failed to happen. Day strike by Oscars at 30000 feet over Ledo scored some hits but not on aircraft. The AMc damaged yesterday sinks taking the captain down with her. The reported name of the captain is wrong. Engineering Allies have expanded Madras port to 9. R&D Quiet Reinforcements Quiet

Spidery -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (9/2/2014 1:23:42 PM)
May 25th 1943 Air Losses: 4 Japanese, 0 Allied, 4 Pilots Japanese occupy: Allies occupy: Japanese land at: Allies land at: Subs Quiet Solomons Night strike at Lunga port from 17000 feet by Betties scores no hits. Burma Night strike at Silchar does no damage. Day strike fails to take place. Corsairs sweep Katha but no defense present. Engineering Quiet R&D P1Y2 to 8/44 Reinforcements 11,600 capacity TK

Spidery -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (9/2/2014 6:50:18 PM)
May 26th 1943 Air Losses: 22 Japanese, 5 Allied, 5 Pilots Japanese occupy: Allies occupy: Japanese land at: Allies land at: Subs Quiet Solomons Night strike at Lunga port from 17000 feet by Betties scores no hits. Burma Corsairs sweep an empty Katha. Thunderbolts sweep Magwe: 12 N1K1-J, 4 Ki-84a lost to 4 P-47D2 shot down. Not good, need to see if I can get a better defense. Probably, better fighting in the lower bands. For some reason about half the N1K1-J on CAP didn't fly. It was the supply weekly shift turn and Akyab managed to pull just enough supply to replace that being used over the week and most of the other bases received good quantities. Annoyingly, supply still flows out of Burma: Port Arthur now has 485,000 supply. Supply produced on the continent is about 4,000 a day and supply used for maintenance about 3,000 so 1,000 a day excess. I would expect that to be spent on aircraft ops and engineering works. Engineering Aitape airfield to 1, Chumphon airfield to 7. R&D Quiet Reinforcements DD Wakazuki

Spidery -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (9/3/2014 7:55:04 AM)
R&D Progress Expected Dates Night Fighters 09/43 J1N1-S 12/43 A6M5d-S 05/44 P1Y2-S 10/44 J1N1-Sa 12/43 Ki-45 KAId 02/44 Ki-46-III KAI 02/45 Ki-102c Fighters 07/43 Ki-43-IIIa 07/43 Ki-43-IV 12/43 Ki-84r 08/44 Ki-83 12/44 Ki-94-II 12/43 N1K2-J 07/44 A7M2 09/44 N1K5-J 12/44 J7W1 Bombers 12/43 B7A2 01/44 P1Y2 02/44 B6N2a 06/44 M6A1 03/45 Toka 07/44 Ki-74-I 08/44 Ki-115a 11/44 Ki-115b Total supply expenditure on all R&D, air and engine expansion will be 1.5 million or about 3,000 per day through to end 1944.

Spidery -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (9/3/2014 1:20:24 PM)
May 27th 1943 Air Losses: 17 Japanese, 8 Allied, 4 Pilots Japanese occupy: Allies occupy: Japanese land at: Allies land at: Subs Quiet Solomons Quiet Burma Corsairs sweep Magwe. I had dropped altitude of CAP and put some of the older army planes up to try and counter Thunderbolts and expected bombing. It cost. 7 F4U-1 traded for 8 Ki-43-IIb, 7 N1K1-J, 2 Ki-44-IIc. Engineering Quiet R&D Quiet Reinforcements Quiet

Spidery -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (9/3/2014 1:24:18 PM)
Looking at late war planes I had a wicked thought. If Ki-94-II are used as Kamikazes with a set altitude of 46,000 feet will they (a) be too high and avoid all CAP, (b) avoid the AA fire on approach and only take the AA fire for the final attack? If they do then, given their speed and 500kg bomb, they could be very nasty. Chance of being able to spare production is low.

MrBlizzard -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (9/3/2014 2:01:17 PM)
In my game supplies flow out too from Burma, they move back to Singa, very annoying... I've found nothing else than raising requirements levels in many Burma bases to let them stay there. There must be a better way

Spidery -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (9/3/2014 2:43:04 PM)
Pilot training Now have about 310 IJA fighter pilots and 280 IJN fighter pilots available in reserve. Based on that I expect to have 1000 IJA fighter pilots and 500 IJN fighter pilots trained in reserve at the end of 1943. There are 150 pilots in IJN patrol reserve with NavS 70+ so have started drawing these into bomber groups to get IJN bomber pilots. Still haven't worked out how to manage IJN bomber training with all the different requirements: NavB, NavS, ASW, LowN, NavT, GndB all seem useful on different occasions. I'm trying to streamline now so most IJN bomber pilots train in NavS and just one other skill. IJA bombers have enough GndB trained and ASW trained pilots to last a while so am now concentrating on NavB/NavS and LowN/NavS training.

Spidery -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (9/3/2014 2:44:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MrBlizzard In my game supplies flow out too from Burma, they move back to Singa, very annoying... I've found nothing else than raising requirements levels in many Burma bases to let them stay there. There must be a better way I have been keeping bases with extra demand but dropped it at Magwe and Rangoon to make sure there was supply available to flow to Akyab. Some of it flowed there but some ran back into China[:@]

Spidery -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (9/3/2014 4:55:56 PM)
May 28th 1943 Air Losses: 9 Japanese, 14 Allied, 2 Pilots Japanese occupy: Allies occupy: Japanese land at: Allies land at: Subs Quiet Solomons Quiet Burma P-40K sweep Magwe. 13 P-40K downed for the loss of 3 N1K1-J, 2 Ki-43-IIb, 2 Ki-44-IIc, 2 Ki-84a; an okay ratio. I think he must be using another air base, need to find which. There are not enough fighters reported at Kalemyo and Silchar. Engineering Quiet R&D Quiet Reinforcements None

Lowpe -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (9/3/2014 6:22:17 PM)
I have not had a chance to either use them or feel their impact yet, but in Downfall there is a large Shinden kamikaze unit. No bombs, but fast. Perhap m-m did attack me last turn with Shindens...he staged a large air attack on Allied carriers that got "shredded" and he hasn't picked up the pieces yet to get me a turn back. It is a backburner game so no worries, but it makes you think. Fighting end war demoralization is going to be really important. I remember Obvert complaining that his turn consisted of 3 hours of rebuilding shattered air units. What joy. If you can somehow streamline the reserve pools it might make the end game more enjoyable.

Spidery -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (9/4/2014 7:09:00 AM)
May 29th 1943 Air Losses: 32 Japanese, 14 Allied, 7 Pilots Japanese occupy: Allies occupy: Japanese land at: Allies land at: Subs Quiet Solomons Quiet Burma Two groups of P-40K sweep Magwe and I do okay against them but then the Thunderbolts sweep and get this: quote: Morning Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47 Weather in hex: Overcast Raid detected at 49 NM, estimated altitude 43,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 14 minutes Japanese aircraft N1K1-J George x 57 Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 24 Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 19 Ki-84a Frank x 21 Allied aircraft P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 24 Japanese aircraft losses N1K1-J George: 8 destroyed Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 1 destroyed Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 3 destroyed Ki-84a Frank: 2 destroyed No Allied losses Aircraft Attacking: 3 x P-47D2 Thunderbolt sweeping at 42000 feet Actual losses aren't quite so one sided: 13 N1K1-J, 11 Ki-44-IIc, 4 Ki-43-IIb, 4 Ki-84a lost for 2 P-47D2 and 12 P-40K: still a horrid ratio. Some of the groups at Magwe the morale is slipping. Get a new IJA Ace at Magwe. Engineering Guam airfield to 6. Allies expand Torokina to 6 and Buin port to 4. R&D Quiet Reinforcements E Iki

Lowpe -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (9/4/2014 10:45:30 AM)
Thunderbolts at 42K. You have some planes in the pipeline that might go toe to toe with them.

Spidery -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (9/4/2014 11:37:15 AM)
May 30th 1943 Air Losses: 6 Japanese, 19 Allied, 2 Pilots Japanese occupy: Allies occupy: Japanese land at: Allies land at: Subs Quiet Solomons P-38G sweep Rabaul which is CAPped only by N1K1-J: 5 N1K1-J for 16 P-38G. More surface combatants being reported at Buin. Burma Ground the CAP at Magwe but only a small group of P-40K sweep. Bomb Kalemyo from 30,000 feet with Helens and Oscars: 1 P-47D2 and 1 F4U-1 destroyed on the ground. Engineering Quiet Production To allow for the increasing tempo, I have expanded N1K1-J production to 180 and Ki-84a to 135. I don't want to expand Ki-84a production too much because I plan on letting 90 factories roll over from R&D when the Ki-84r comes online. Maybe I should expand it to 150. Reinforcements SS RO-35, SC Ch 42, SC CHa-28

Spidery -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (9/4/2014 11:39:46 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lowpe Thunderbolts at 42K. You have some planes in the pipeline that might go toe to toe with them. Not for a year! However, there are enough that are close enough that if I can keep up the numbers game I should be able to do okay. Lancaster square law seems to apply quite well. Fortunately, they don't have that good a range so expose their bases to bombing and it seems unopposed bombing from 30,000 feet can work.

Lowpe -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (9/4/2014 12:26:53 PM)
Is that unopposed night time bombing? what altitude was your cap stacked at. They have poor maneuver down low, not much of a weakness...

Spidery -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (9/4/2014 12:56:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lowpe Is that unopposed night time bombing? what altitude was your cap stacked at. They have poor maneuver down low, not much of a weakness... Day time. So it is a bit of a scissors/paper/rocks game as if he puts Thunderbolts on CAP it could get bloody. Anything else on CAP gets chewed up by N1K1-J sweeps. I have been varying altitudes. Looks like on that turn I had most things high. N1K1-J at 36,000 37,000 and 41,000 Ki-44-IIc at 15,000 33,000 Ki-43-IIb at 8,000 Ki-84a at 34,000. It is a guessing game as if he sweeps with P-40K, P-38F/G or F4U-1 I want everything high but against the Thunderbolts I would like it low. If he comes with bombers I could do with it at 20,000 feet or so depending what altitude he sends the bombers in at.

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