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Spidery -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (9/12/2014 5:54:27 PM)
June 21st 1943 Air Losses: 11 Japanese, 5 Allied, 2 Pilots Japanese occupy: Allies occupy: Japanese land at: Allies land at: Base VP: 16207 Subs Quiet Solomons Fires are extinguished on Hyuga and repairs some flooding. She makes 2 hexes. I moved some fighters to Kavieng to provide some cover and they bled over to Rabaul and engaged Allied sweeps: 5 Ki-44-IIc, 2 J2M2 lost for 2 F4U-1. Liberators hit Rabaul at night, 2 are downed by flak. Allies cheakly bombard Gasmata during the day. 3 Jake are destroyed on the ground. The airfield is closed, the base forces are disrupted and most troops are disabled but the ground units there are mostly untouched. Forces from Buna and Milne Bay are being air-lifted out and others are marching through the Jungle. Burma Quiet Engineering Manus airfield to 2, Aitape to 2, building up a line just behind the danger zone. Production Quiet Reinforcements E W-28

Lowpe -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (9/12/2014 6:39:59 PM)
You guys are back up to fast paced! I think you got lucky that you even have a chance to save that BB...

Spidery -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (9/13/2014 1:12:52 PM)
June 22nd 1943 Air Losses: 3 Japanese, 4 Allied, 2 Pilots Japanese occupy: Allies occupy: Japanese land at: Allies land at: Base VP: 16216 Subs E Kunashiri and E W-10 attack the SS Skipjack near Iwo-Jima and sink it[:)]. RO-35 and RO-34 take shots at CA off New Britain but miss and suffer mild damage (17/6/0 and 17/5/0) so will return to base. Marshalls I have pulled all the mobile forces from Jaluit, Mili, Maloelap, Wotje leaving just the forts behind. I have been dropping some supply off from SS heading out on patrol. Is this worth it? Is there any reason he would ever take these bases or can he just ignore them? Solomons Allies bombard Rabaul at night; 2 DD hit mines; neither sinks. 4E and sweeps hit during the day. Rabaul is now at 100/89. Burma Quiet Engineering Quiet Production Ki-46-III KAI Night fighter, the second factory repairs so this should be ready about 25th January 1944. Reinforcements CL Noshiro

Spidery -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (9/14/2014 7:01:38 AM)
Dates seem to have gone adrift in the last few posts - this is correct[8\|] June 25th 1943 Air Losses: 5 Japanese, 4 Allied, 2 Pilots Japanese occupy: Allies occupy: Japanese land at: Allies land at: Base VP: 16182 Subs Yamakaze scores some good hits on SS Finback North of Ambon, enough to send it back to base but not to sink. Marshalls Quiet Solomons Day and night bombardments at Gasmata knock-out some 80 or so support squads. If he can keep this up for much longer there won't be any defenders left. 4E hit Rabaul. Burma Quiet Engineering Allies expand Torokina aifield to 8. Production Quiet Reinforcements SC CHa-38

Spidery -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (9/14/2014 9:51:52 AM)
June 26th 1943 Air Losses: 0 Japanese, 3 Allied, 0 Pilots Japanese occupy: Allies occupy: Japanese land at: Allies land at: Base VP: 16227 Subs I-161 is attacked near Ceylon and is RTB with 13/59/8 damage. Marshalls Quiet Solomons Allies bomb. Burma Quiet Engineering Quiet Production N1K2-J to 5/44. Mitsubishi Ha-43 to 10/43 Reinforcements SC CHa-30

Spidery -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (9/14/2014 12:08:57 PM)
June 27th 1943 Air Losses: 0 Japanese, 6 Allied, 0 Pilots Japanese occupy: Allies occupy: Japanese land at: Allies land at: Base VP: 16214 Subs Quiet Marshalls Quiet Solomons Allies bomb & bombard. Burma Quiet Engineering Quiet Production A B7A2 factory is fully repaired, that should advance it to 44/3 but with 3 more factories to repair... Not sure how useful an aircraft this will be, looks a better TB than the B6N2 and complements the D4Y4 as a dive bomber (better range, 2 x 250kg versus 1 x 800kg or 1 x 500kg). Reinforcements Quiet Other Suddenly seeing more subs in the Ceram Sea area. Also a sub of mine in the Arafura Sea got a 10/10 DL despite being 8 hexes from the nearest Allied air base.

Spidery -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (9/14/2014 4:46:53 PM)
Just received "531 Ku K-1" this group is equipped with dive bombers but can upgrade to torpedo bombers, any views as to which is better D4Y4 or B6N2 for LBA? Dive bombers are cheaper to fly (1 point rather than 1 point + 10 for the torpedo) but the B6N2 has a longer range. Torpedo bombers are less flexible but by now most bases have HQ support.

Lowpe -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (9/14/2014 8:36:55 PM)
Why are the torpedo bombers less flexible? I think the opposite.

setloz -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (9/14/2014 10:16:00 PM)
DBB has torpedo accuracy reduced. So I'd go with the Dive Bombers for LBA. Even if the bomb effect is reduced, the D4Y4 will hit more often than TBs.

Spidery -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (9/15/2014 8:41:47 AM)
quote: Why are the torpedo bombers less flexible? I think the opposite. Only in that they can only use their torpedoes in range of air HQ.

Spidery -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (9/15/2014 10:38:25 AM)
June 28th 1943 Air Losses: 0 Japanese, 3 Allied, 0 Pilots Japanese occupy: Allies occupy: Japanese land at: Allies land at: Base VP: 16214 Subs I-174 launches 4 torpedoes at CA Northampton near Gasmata, misses, is counter-attacked, and is lost with all hands. Marshalls Quiet Solomons BB West Virginia and Maryland bombard Rabaul. They dodge the 500 mines. Bombers hit Kavieng, Buka and Gasmata. Hyuga is in trouble as damage increases to 38/82/30. 4 days to reach Woleai or I could divert to the dot base at Satawal (3 days) and send some AR there. I have 7 AR in the area plus could move some naval support. Burma Quiet Engineering Quiet Production Port Arthur runs out of oil. Since I started dropping oil at Hong Kong and pulling from Fusan, oil has stopped flowing from Urumchi. Ultimately, not sure how much this matters. Reinforcements Quiet

Spidery -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (9/15/2014 10:43:20 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: setloz DBB has torpedo accuracy reduced. So I'd go with the Dive Bombers for LBA. Even if the bomb effect is reduced, the D4Y4 will hit more often than TBs. With DBB torpedoes only really seem to be effective against BB, CVE and transports. CV, CA, CL seem to be too hard to hit. Against transports, there probably isn't much difference in the likelihood of a kill from an 800kg or a torpedo but the torpedoes will pay off against BB in particular. One thing I'm not yet seeing, but hoped for, was that the 800kg bombs on the D4Y4 would be effective in ASW. Except, I think they may fly with the 500kg bomb on ASW duty. The 250kg bomb just doesn't seem to be able to sink a sub.

Spidery -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (9/15/2014 10:47:23 AM)
Any idea how effective Oscars on night airfield attack at 100 feet would be and how many losses they would take from flak? And during the day? Does the gun make a difference, would the Ki-43IV be significantly better? When we were fighting in Burma he didn't bother to CAP his airfields because if I sent Helens at 10000 or 15000 feet the flak losses outweighed any damage they could do and at 30000 feet they scored few hits and the ops losses and supply loss didn't make it worthwhile. Just wondering if I should have tried mass strafing attacks.

Lowpe -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (9/15/2014 11:06:03 AM)
I think you will get really chewed up and to be at all successful you would need to allocated hundreds of planes. Captain Cruft tried mass strafing with Oscars and he had to stop sometime in 43 against British/Americans because flak losses were so heavy. Worked for a while...and continued to work in China. I don't think he tried night bombing, but I bet the results would be the same -- high Oscar losses.

Spidery -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (9/15/2014 11:53:04 AM)
June 29th 1943 Air Losses: 3 Japanese, 3 Allied, 1 Pilots Japanese occupy: Allies occupy: Japanese land at: Allies land at: Base VP: 16242 Subs Quiet Marshalls Quiet Solomons Gasmata and Rabaul are bombed, Kavieng and Rabaul are swept. Burma Quiet Engineering Tsuyung airfield to 5, mainly for the VP but may help when retreat from Burma. Uruppu-Jima forts to 5. Production Quiet Reinforcements E Fukue

Spidery -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (9/16/2014 8:57:56 AM)
June 30th 1943 Air Losses: 1 Japanese, 2 Allied, 1 Pilots Japanese occupy: Allies occupy: Japanese land at: Allies land at: Base VP: 16266 Subs Quiet Marshalls Quiet Solomons Rabauk and Buka are bombed. Burma Quiet Engineering Quiet Production Ki-84r to 2/45 H8K2-L enters production and will gradually replace the H6K2-L, only have 33 active at the moment but have 180 arriving reinforcements (plus 27 that will use the land-based TR for training) so a rate of 25 seems about right. N1K1 Rex enters production, not sure how much use I will get from this so will build at a rate of 15 for now. Ki-43-IIIa and Ki-43-IV enter production. Ki-43-IV will be produced and I will see how it compares against the Ki-44-IIc as an SR 1 fighter. I was thinking of having some Ki-43-IIIa for range but not so sure about that now. Ki-44-IIb enters production, already obsolete. Reinforcements Quiet

Spidery -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (9/16/2014 9:06:48 AM)
June in Review The Allies have stepped up with the aggressive attacks at Rabaul and the surrounding bases but have not, yet, followed up with landings. I don't totally understand this so still suspect that it is a diversion to get the KB to show itself. I think he gets more Essex class carriers in July but I will also get the first Unryu class carriers so we still keep rough parity in CV strength. In the air, points lost was about 1::1 because I downed nearly 100 4E fighters. At sea the subs redeemed themselves by sinking CVE Santee but otherwise could only claim 1 AM, 1 TK, 1 AK plus damage to another TK and an APA. ASW assets sunk SS Skipjack. 3 ACM and a badly damaged DD were lost to port attacks at Rabaul. 5 xAK were lost running much needed supply into Rabaul and the Hyuga still remains at risk. Allied subs claimed 1 TK and 1 xAKL. Allied ASW sunk 2 SS. Japan Allies Overall: +726 +676 Land: +39 +29 Air: +481 +449 Base: +77 +107 Sea: +129 +92 [image]local://upfiles/43194/E8D25B6B1B564601AEB17B3772665570.jpg[/image]

Spidery -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (9/16/2014 9:12:26 AM)
Economy The oil drop seems high but averaged with the previous month it is in-line with expectations so I suspect a consequence of how Tracker counts resources in transit. Supply gain is okay for the month and, if maintained, will give me 4 million supply at the end of the year. Other gains are all okay. Home Isle stocks: 1.4 million supply, 5.0 million fuel, 11.0 million resources, 1.4 million oil. Oil: -101,385 Fuel: +201,617 Supply: +127,172 HI: +74,718 Veh: +1,744 Arms: +9,799 [image]local://upfiles/43194/5D4FD62ECC06425DA8EA441F860BAA2E.jpg[/image]

Spidery -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (9/16/2014 5:31:34 PM)
July 1st 1943 Air Losses: 2 Japanese, 8 Allied, 2 Pilots Japanese occupy: Allies occupy: Japanese land at: Allies land at: Base VP: 16265 Subs AR Akashi heading to help the Hyuga takes a torpedo from the Steelhead. 9/21/5 damage so not too bad but ironic that she will now need repair. Marshalls Quiet Solomons Allies bomb somewhere and take flak losses. Burma Quiet Engineering Quiet Production Quiet Reinforcements Quiet

Sangeli -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (9/16/2014 5:33:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Spidery AR Akashi heading to help the Hyuga takes a torpedo from the Steelhead. 9/21/5 damage so not too bad but ironic that she will now need repair. I'm curious if an AR's own added naval support helps with its own repairs. I guess it would make sense given that all the equipment is still usable despite the hole in the side of the ship.

Spidery -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (9/17/2014 12:59:39 PM)
July 2nd 1943 Air Losses: 2 Japanese, 6 Allied, 1 Pilots Japanese occupy: Allies occupy: Japanese land at: Allies land at: Base VP: 16259 Subs Quiet Marshalls Quiet Solomons Allies bomb somewhere and take flak losses. Burma Quiet Engineering Manus airfield to 3. Production Quiet Reinforcements Quiet

Spidery -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (9/17/2014 1:09:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sangeli quote: ORIGINAL: Spidery AR Akashi heading to help the Hyuga takes a torpedo from the Steelhead. 9/21/5 damage so not too bad but ironic that she will now need repair. I'm curious if an AR's own added naval support helps with its own repairs. I guess it would make sense given that all the equipment is still usable despite the hole in the side of the ship. Don't know, I don't understand ship repairs. 2 AR (1 damaged) in readiness mode at a dot base with no ground troops present. According to the repair 101 guide the only sources for integrity repair for a ship in readiness mode are ship crew, naval support squads, and port. With a crew experience of 32, level 0 port and no naval support squads should have got 4 repair points. However, managed to fix 12 points of minor float damage in one day.

Lowpe -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (9/17/2014 1:20:28 PM)
You are pumping out the counter flooding which always goes very fast...

Spidery -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (9/17/2014 5:03:14 PM)
July 3rd 1943 Air Losses: 1 Japanese, 3 Allied, 1 Pilots Japanese occupy: Allies occupy: Feni Islands Japanese land at: Allies land at: Feni Islands (sub transport, parachute?) Base VP: 16484 Subs Quiet Marshalls Quiet Solomons Allies bomb somewhere and take flak losses. Allies land at and take Feni Islands. A PB doing a pick-up troops option at Rabaul for some reason remains there in the morning, luckily no Allied naval strike occurs. Burma Quiet Engineering Aitape airfield to 3. Production Quiet Reinforcements Quiet

Spidery -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (9/17/2014 5:07:11 PM)
Pilot Training I have lots of IJA bomber pilots in reserve trained in GndB or ASW. I have 3 Sentai of Lily DB and they are fully staffed with NavB trained pilots and I have groups training up replacements. At this point I am redirecting most of my IJA bomber training to LowN with the view they will be useful for Kamikaze. Is it worth training pilots for Kamikaze use in any other skill, NavS for example?

Spidery -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (9/17/2014 6:03:21 PM)
Some rough supply expenditure estimates. I have a supply income of 25,400 per day. I estimate that my expenditure is roughly: 10,000 LCU maintenance (add up supply required indicated in Tracker by region) 4,000 air missions (8150 sorties but most will be CAP or training) 2,400 engineering (6665 engineering squads and 116 vehicles, assume 1/3 active) 3,000 R&D (varies) 2,000 air factory builds (N1K1 and H8K2-L) Assume supply delivered for LCU, engineering and air on average loses 6% in transit for a loss of about 1,000 gives a daily saving of about 3,000.

Spidery -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (9/17/2014 6:46:00 PM)
I was curious about the supply cost of building forts out of base hexes. I hacked Guadalcanal scenario to add a US division on an isolated island with no base or dot base and gave it 5000 supply. The division had 763 devices including 18 engineers and 2 engineering vehicles. Stated supply requirement is 764. In combat mode it builds forts and expends 31 supply per day. In other modes it does not build forts and expends 26 supply per day. I then changed the scenario to replace 100 infantry squads by combat engineer squads. Supply requirement remained at 764. In combat mode it expended 51 supply per day. In rest mode it expended 26 supply per mode. 26 supply is 1/30 of the 764 supply requirement rounded up. So my tentative conclusion is that building of field forts costs 0.2 supply per engineer per day.

Sangeli -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (9/17/2014 11:14:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Spidery I was curious about the supply cost of building forts out of base hexes. I hacked Guadalcanal scenario to add a US division on an isolated island with no base or dot base and gave it 5000 supply. The division had 763 devices including 18 engineers and 2 engineering vehicles. Stated supply requirement is 764. In combat mode it builds forts and expends 31 supply per day. In other modes it does not build forts and expends 26 supply per day. I then changed the scenario to replace 100 infantry squads by combat engineer squads. Supply requirement remained at 764. In combat mode it expended 51 supply per day. In rest mode it expended 26 supply per mode. 26 supply is 1/30 of the 764 supply requirement rounded up. So my tentative conclusion is that building of field forts costs 0.2 supply per engineer per day. Interesting results. I would go a step further in this test if you can. Each fort level is supposed to have a stated supply usage in order to increase a level. You should see if the difference in supply levels when you build a fort and when you don't is equal to that stated amount. If it is then your tentative conclusion becomes a lot stronger. Also might be worth switching engineering squads with engineering vehicles and see the impact of that.

Spidery -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (9/18/2014 7:01:17 AM)
July 4th 1943 Air Losses: 4 Japanese, 4 Allied, 2 Pilots Japanese occupy: Allies occupy: Japanese land at: Allies land at: Base VP: 16485 Subs Quiet Marshalls Quiet Solomons Allies bomb. Buka is out of supply and the AA units are also running out of supply. Flak will stop next turn. Burma Quiet Engineering Quiet Production Quiet Reinforcements Quiet Intel Intel has increased DL on Perth to 2/3. This reports 277 ships in port (only 10 DD spotted) and 198 Ftr, 97 Bombers, and 81 auxiliary. It all looks convincing as a strike towards Java or the DEI (or just Cocos Islands) as soon as the KB is located. I consider "leaking" a fraction of the KB in the Rabaul area and then running it at speed to Java with oilers pre-positioned to top it up. However, can't see a good reason for the risk now. Will reinforce Java, I have an unrestricted Division coming free at Singapore and another at Manila soon so will send them to Soerabaja to act as a strategic reserve and defend Java.

Spidery -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (9/18/2014 11:47:37 AM)
July 5th 1943 Air Losses: 1 Japanese, 9 Allied, 1 Pilots Japanese occupy: Allies occupy: Japanese land at: Allies land at: Base VP: 16498 Subs Quiet Marshalls Quiet Solomons Allies bomb Buka and Rabaul. Ops losses for Allies include 4 B-25C and 2 F4F at Buka. Flak downs a B-24 at Rabaul. Allies sweep Kavieng with P-38H, first time seen this model, very similar to the P-38G. Hyuga has reached Satawal and disbanded in the anchorage. Range 25 to the nearest Allied air field makes it reasonably safe; only the British Liberator GR.III could reach. However, the Allies will be developing Feni Islands and the range to that is 21 so may have to move. Feni Islands is a 0(3) air field so will take a while to get it to a state to support 4E. Can he use PBY-5 with drop tanks at extended range to reach with a bomb load? 47/85/30 damage with 0/34/3 major. 4 AR working on it for now but 2 more en-route, estimated 83 days to fix everything that can be fixed. Burma Quiet Engineering Quiet Production Quiet Reinforcements Quiet

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