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Lowpe -> RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock (3/17/2014 5:38:46 PM)

Bandoeng capitulates! A day or two earlier than anticipated.



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Lowpe -> RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock (3/17/2014 5:44:43 PM)

His British bombers and some American one hit Ramree.



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Lowpe -> RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock (3/17/2014 5:49:16 PM)

Here is why the Allies were worried about Tjilatjap! A veritable hornets nest. Good thing the 21st Division arrives tomorrow.



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Lokasenna -> RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock (3/17/2014 6:13:43 PM)

Isolate the island and kill all of those troops. That's a big fat stack of LCU VPs.

Banzai!



Lowpe -> RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock (3/17/2014 6:54:55 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

Isolate the island and kill all of those troops. That's a big fat stack of LCU VPs.

Banzai!



Great minds think a like.[:)]

The Island has been blockaded for a while now. Here is the north Java in a little more detail. I was going to paratroop in and take some of the empty bases...but will hold off and just use afvs.



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obvert -> RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock (3/17/2014 11:05:01 PM)

If you can get these surrounded on a coastal hex, just keep two divisions there and blast them every other turn with naval bombardments for the next month. That'll net a good haul of points and even if these are bought back the Aussies will not likely get back to full strength for a few years. This is worth your loss of time from the early poor play by your predecessor.

While those are isolated and the rest of Java is mopped up, get your other troops out to make a difference wherever else you're being challenged or behind schedule.



Lowpe -> RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock (3/18/2014 2:43:00 AM)

A quiet air day in Java -- some night bombing of the airbase at Kali.

Lost a fully loaded tanker, large Type 1TL, off Miri to a submarine attack.[:@] Time to change the routes again.

But, up in the north Emilies spot a visitor...a CV I suspect. I am really weak here with but destroyers in theater and second rate airplanes for training. I guess I will be flying some back shortly to better garrison this area.

He can't bomb industry without being in range for two turns...of course, he might turn tail now that he is spotted.





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Lowpe -> RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock (3/18/2014 3:11:18 AM)

Java shaping up nicely...one more division is arriving shortly from Manila.

Allies seem to be flying their planes out, at least those than can. He might disband others back to the pools if he can. Still, plenty of Allied fighters at his two southern bases.



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Lowpe -> RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock (3/19/2014 2:59:53 AM)

I am starting to plan out night fighter strategy and Obvert is right that there is some tough upgrade paths to get Army night fighters, and in general the Army fighters are inferior to the Navy until Randy comes along if you last that long.

So, prior to Randy you have 3 choices: Nick, Dinah and Peggy. Nick and Dinah got poor marks from Obvert, but you need to make them to fill out groups to have coverage and help disrupt attacks. Given this philosophy, I am also thinking about Peggy.

Sure, her gun is horribly inaccurate, but on par with the 37 mm that the Nick and Dinah sport but the 75mm has twice the penetration level and she is armored like the Nick. The Peggy can also fire from outside the range of the 50 caliber guns on the bombers...if that works properly. I can't see them using the turret rear machine gun against bombers, which would put them in range of the 50 calibers.

Peggy might be more durable than Nick for this reason.

So, has anyone used the Peggy and how horrible is she as a night fighter?






Spidery -> RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock (3/19/2014 7:10:43 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lowpe

I am starting to plan out night fighter strategy and Obvert is right that there is some tough upgrade paths to get Army night fighters, and in general the Army fighters are inferior to the Navy until Randy comes along if you last that long.

So, prior to Randy you have 3 choices: Nick, Dinah and Peggy. Nick and Dinah got poor marks from Obvert, but you need to make them to fill out groups to have coverage and help disrupt attacks. Given this philosophy, I am also thinking about Peggy.

Sure, her gun is horribly inaccurate, but on par with the 37 mm that the Nick and Dinah sport but the 75mm has twice the penetration level and she is armored like the Nick. The Peggy can also fire from outside the range of the 50 caliber guns on the bombers...if that works properly. I can't see them using the turret rear machine gun against bombers, which would put them in range of the 50 calibers.

Peggy might be more durable than Nick for this reason.

So, has anyone used the Peggy and how horrible is she as a night fighter?



If it does get a hit there must be a good chance of destroying the target.

If the game treats night air combat differently from daytime combat then the upward pointing guns on the Nick and Dinah should perform better than the center line gun on the Peggy. Also the Nick and Dinah should only be vulnerable from the ventral guns on the bombers. However, if it treats it the same as day combat then the gun being center line mounted may offset some of its inaccuracy.



Lowpe -> RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock (3/19/2014 1:18:03 PM)

Some more thoughts on night fighters:



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Spidery -> RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock (3/19/2014 1:27:18 PM)

I don't know how the game models night fights. I believe the German experience was that high speed was a disadvantage for night fighting until they changed tactics to attack from above the flak ceiling and using the searchlights to silhouette the bombers.

In a night attack the night fighters need to be faster than the bomber cruise speed so they can approach from underneath and attack the aircraft silhouetted against the night sky.

So the Judy should be pretty useless.



Lowpe -> RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock (3/20/2014 2:27:17 AM)

No sub losses today, and steady progress made on Java. I think the end will come sooner here than I thought.

Burma: Allies have retreated back along coastal road from Ramree. He is still active with his fighters and bombers, but staying clear of Magwe.

Central Pacific quiet.

China: steady progress.



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Lowpe -> RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock (3/20/2014 2:32:25 AM)

North Pacific:

I guess the Allies are trying to bait me here. Or distract me. I have 70 torpedo carrying Bettys, but no fighter coverage yet. I will bide my time for now.



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Spidery -> RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock (3/20/2014 7:07:59 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lowpe

North Pacific:

I guess the Allies are trying to bait me here. Or distract me. I have 70 torpedo carrying Bettys, but no fighter coverage yet. I will bide my time for now.



Careful here, it looks very like the opening stages of the raid MrKane launched on my Sakhalin convoys at the end of February 1942. You can see how to mismanage the reaction to that by reading my AAR[sm=00000280.gif]



Lowpe -> RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock (3/20/2014 1:46:42 PM)

I remember that raid! Ugly.

I have 30 fighters at both Ominato, and Bihoro with some more on the way. I am transferring an air HQ to Bihoro so that the Betty's can base closer with Torps. I think I am in a better position than you were. I hope.

Could it be all his carriers? I am not sure he would have abandoned Java long enough ago to get them all there. Plus a lot of his air groups are still in Java, so it would be a depleted strike force if they were all there.

I have never launched a night torpedo attack against ships, but I am thinking about doing that in this case. I have three squadrons of Betty's, good skills, Moonlight 96%. Do I need to have a portion of each squadron doing nighttime naval search for any chance of success? Or can it be other night time naval search? Is the chance of success really low no matter what?








Spidery -> RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock (3/20/2014 1:59:39 PM)

I had three groups on Night naval attack the entire time he was in the area, two with 65+ experience, one lower. I can't remember what the moonlight was. On the first night one group attacked and all missed.

After that no more attacked. He may have been running night CAP. I think night search picked up his location most, if not all, nights.

You can't set a night search percentage for level bombers, only for patrol and float planes.



Lowpe -> RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock (3/20/2014 2:01:39 PM)

A little more detail on the North. I believe this turn I will fly fighters into Paramushiro, and still keep the other fighters at Ominato and Bihoro. Close to 100 fighters all told. The only strike planes are Bettys and float-planes.

6 Destroyers near Ominato comprise my ships in area other than cargo and escorts.

3 Squadrons of Bettys within strike range with torpedoes if they near Ominato or try for Sakhalin.

No AV on Sakhalin.



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Lokasenna -> RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock (3/20/2014 2:54:50 PM)

I think he's just probing. If he's maintaining distance but also staying well-detected every day, he may be looking for holes in your search patterns. I also tend to trust the aircraft sighted numbers. I would wager that a real CV isn't present, or if there is it's just one...

I might try a Betty raid when you have fighter escorts. Especially if you go in at 2k - if it's just one CV, his CAP is liable to be set somewhere between 10k and 15k altitude. At this date in the war, he'll have radar, but... that really looks like CVE Long Island to me with a small SCTF.

Got a couple subs to send to the area?



Lowpe -> RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock (3/20/2014 4:10:05 PM)

Long Island was at the invasion of Tarawa one month ago -- so that makes sense. Which is why I think it is some kind of trap or distraction, to get me to weaken the blockade of Java so he can attempt some kind of rescue/intervention there.




Lowpe -> RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock (3/21/2014 1:40:46 AM)

What can I say?

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Lowpe -> Kuriles Invaded - Aug 29th, 1942 (3/21/2014 3:43:35 AM)

Look at these battleships!



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Lowpe -> RE: Kuriles Invaded - Aug 29th, 1942 (3/21/2014 3:46:14 AM)

I have been given a golden opportunity in the north. Let us see if I can capitalize on it.

Meanwhile, in Java the allies deliberate attack in Tjilatjap and I take another base and continue moving every which way cutting off hexsides.





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Lowpe -> RE: Kuriles Invaded - Aug 29th, 1942 (3/21/2014 3:50:45 AM)

I have held off bombarding or air attacking Tjilatjap, so that the Allies could unpack. In that time he has bombarded once, and deliberately attacked twice. Now, I will start bombarding him with ships, but I will not risk my bombers until I can take his last airbase at Madioen. I don't want to fly into a cap trap of his fighters.



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Lowpe -> RE: Kuriles Invaded - Aug 29th, 1942 (3/21/2014 3:54:25 AM)

Dogfights over Java

I think my pilots are a little better, but high sweeps can really chew you up.

I have turned back on production of the two models of Zeroes, and get Tojo in a few days. I now have 200 Ha-35 engines in the pool, and should have 500 by the end of next month at the latest.



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Spidery -> RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock (3/21/2014 8:06:02 AM)

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What can I say?


Showtime[sm=Evil-210.gif]!

Big distraction but too tempting to pass by.



obvert -> RE: Kuriles Invaded - Aug 29th, 1942 (3/21/2014 9:04:43 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Look at these battleships!

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Salivating. Against those send in about 3-4 CL and 4 DD. At night. Long lance heaven.



Lowpe -> RE: Kuriles Invaded - Aug 29th, 1942 (3/21/2014 1:40:38 PM)


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Salivating. Against those send in about 3-4 CL and 4 DD. At night. Long lance heaven.


I was contemplating doing something else. But those forces are on their way. [:)] Plus, I have I think a complete surprise for the Allies -- just how to use it.

I wonder how filled out his CVs are?

Allies are just super aggressive...I think they have lost 10 battleships already -- lets see if I can add to the list some more.

I suspect there is a relief/evacuation fleet forming at Darwin/Perth/Ceylon for Java or already headed towards Java. I certainly hope so!







Lowpe -> RE: Kuriles Invaded - Aug 29th, 1942 (3/21/2014 5:03:14 PM)

Do you think it likely that some of his CVs in the north are packed with land based single engine fighters? I do.

I wonder if those planes would show up on search, or be ignored since they aren't cv capable.



Lowpe -> RE: Kuriles Invaded - Aug 29th, 1942 (3/22/2014 12:14:53 AM)

Northern Oz:

I am looking for relief/evac ships here, but damaged support ships and any signs of a possible buildup.

In this game, nearly every glen on subs was shot down, and I am slowly getting them back out there to be my forward eyes.



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