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CapAndGown -> Stupid AI Tricks (2/5/2003 1:22:41 AM)
I decided to start cataloguing all the stupid things I have seen in UV to demonstrate that only a few things are dumber than the AI. In this battle, for instance, of 26 fighters that should have been escorting my bombers, only 16 actually did so. And even then, they only escorted one group of torpedo bombers. Out of 41 torpedo bombers, only 6 survived. :mad: Fortunately, my dive bombers were able to get through. AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/04/42 Weather: Clear Sub attack at 9,33 Japanese Ships BB Haruna DD Arashi Allied Ships SS Nautilus -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Air attack on TF, at 9,33 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 18 Allied aircraft TBF Avenger x 6 B-26 Marauder x 4 Allied aircraft losses TBF Avenger x 5 destroyed TBF Avenger x 1 damaged B-26 Marauder x 2 destroyed B-26 Marauder x 2 damaged Japanese Ships CV Akagi Attacking Level Bombers: 2 x B-26 Marauder at 200 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Air attack on TF, at 9,33 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 18 Allied aircraft B-17 Fortress x 15 Japanese aircraft losses no losses Allied aircraft losses no losses Japanese Ships CV Hiryu CV Soryu Attacking Level Bombers: 3 x B-17 Fortress at 20000 feet 3 x B-17 Fortress at 20000 feet 3 x B-17 Fortress at 20000 feet 3 x B-17 Fortress at 20000 feet 3 x B-17 Fortress at 20000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Air attack on TF, at 9,33 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 54 Allied aircraft SBD Dauntless x 16 Japanese aircraft losses no losses Allied aircraft losses SBD Dauntless x 8 destroyed SBD Dauntless x 6 damaged Japanese Ships CV Hiryu -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Air attack on TF, at 9,33 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 54 Allied aircraft TBD Devastator x 11 Japanese aircraft losses no losses Allied aircraft losses TBD Devastator x 1 destroyed TBD Devastator x 4 damaged Japanese Ships BB Haruna CV Akagi -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Air attack on TF, at 9,33 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 54 Allied aircraft TBD Devastator x 15 Japanese aircraft losses no losses Allied aircraft losses TBD Devastator x 15 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Air attack on TF, at 9,33 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 54 Allied aircraft TBD Devastator x 14 Japanese aircraft losses no losses Allied aircraft losses TBD Devastator x 10 destroyed TBD Devastator x 4 damaged Japanese Ships CV Hiryu -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Air attack on TF, at 9,33 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 54 Allied aircraft F4F-3 Wildcat x 6 TBD Devastator x 12 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero x 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F4F-3 Wildcat x 1 destroyed F4F-3 Wildcat x 2 damaged TBD Devastator x 10 destroyed TBD Devastator x 2 damaged Japanese Ships CV Soryu -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Air attack on TF, at 9,33 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 54 Allied aircraft F4F-3 Wildcat x 10 SBD Dauntless x 54 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero x 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F4F-3 Wildcat x 1 destroyed SBD Dauntless x 9 destroyed SBD Dauntless x 1 damaged Japanese Ships CV Kaga, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage CV Akagi, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage CV Soryu, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage BB Haruna -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Air attack on Midway at 43,52 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 36 D3A Val x 36 B5N Kate x 36 Allied aircraft F2A-3 Buffalo x 20 F4F-3 Wildcat x 6 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero x 2 destroyed D3A Val x 1 destroyed B5N Kate x 3 destroyed B5N Kate x 3 damaged Allied aircraft losses F2A-3 Buffalo x 15 destroyed F2A-3 Buffalo x 4 damaged F4F-3 Wildcat x 2 destroyed F4F-3 Wildcat x 3 damaged Airbase hits 2 Runway hits 2 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 9,33 Japanese Ships CV Kaga, on fire, heavy damage Allied Ships SS Nautilus -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Air attack on TF, at 9,33 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 12 Allied aircraft SBD Dauntless x 24 Japanese aircraft losses no losses Allied aircraft losses SBD Dauntless x 3 destroyed SBD Dauntless x 1 damaged Japanese Ships CV Hiryu, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Air attack on TF, at 9,33 Allied aircraft B-17 Fortress x 12 Allied aircraft losses no losses Japanese Ships CV Hiryu, on fire, heavy damage Attacking Level Bombers: 3 x B-17 Fortress at 20000 feet 3 x B-17 Fortress at 20000 feet 3 x B-17 Fortress at 20000 feet 3 x B-17 Fortress at 20000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Air attack on TF at 43,52 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 6 D3A Val x 18 Allied aircraft F4F-3 Wildcat x 12 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero x 3 destroyed D3A Val x 13 destroyed D3A Val x 3 damaged Allied aircraft losses F4F-3 Wildcat x 3 destroyed Allied Ships CV Yorktown, Bomb hits 3, on fire -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Air attack on TF at 43,52 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 6 B5N Kate x 10 Allied aircraft F4F-3 Wildcat x 12 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero x 3 destroyed B5N Kate x 5 destroyed B5N Kate x 5 damaged Allied aircraft losses F4F-3 Wildcat x 3 damaged Allied Ships CV Yorktown, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage :p

thantis -> (2/5/2003 2:07:01 AM)
:eek: Now that's funny :D

11Bravo -> Re: Stupid AI Tricks (2/5/2003 2:16:49 AM)
[QUOTE]Originally posted by cap_and_gown [B]-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Air attack on Midway at 43,52 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 36 D3A Val x 36 B5N Kate x 36 Allied aircraft F2A-3 Buffalo x 20 F4F-3 Wildcat x 6 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero x 2 destroyed D3A Val x 1 destroyed B5N Kate x 3 destroyed B5N Kate x 3 damaged Allied aircraft losses F2A-3 Buffalo x 15 destroyed F2A-3 Buffalo x 4 damaged F4F-3 Wildcat x 2 destroyed F4F-3 Wildcat x 3 damaged Airbase hits 2 Runway hits 2 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [/B][/QUOTE] Midway ? Buffalo's? Some trick, the AI turned your copy of Uncommon Valor into WITP. :eek:

mogami -> Strikes (2/5/2003 2:17:20 AM)
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11Bravo -> Re: Strikes (2/5/2003 2:33:49 AM)
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mogami [B]................ [/B][/QUOTE] You staring at your rock garden again?

XPav -> (2/5/2003 2:47:59 AM)
**** thats some unrealistic combat reports you got going on there. :D

mogami -> Posts (2/5/2003 2:54:25 AM)
Hi, We can not delete our own posts anymore

CapAndGown -> Re: Posts (2/5/2003 3:23:18 AM)
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mogami [B]Hi, We can not delete our own posts anymore [/B][/QUOTE] Does that mean I fooled you? ;)

denisonh -> Truth Stranger than Fiction (2/5/2003 3:34:01 AM)
Good one Cap and Gown!

Admiral DadMan -> (2/5/2003 3:49:45 AM)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/06/42 Weather: Clear Sub attack at 43,53 Allied Ships CV Yorktown, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage DD Hammann, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage, and is sunk Japanese Ships I-168 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Fred98 -> (2/5/2003 4:28:46 AM)
So, why did the AI refuse to send all the aircraft that were available? Why did cap-and-gown allow the AI to control his troops?

Snigbert -> (2/5/2003 4:52:11 AM)
[B]Some trick, the AI turned your copy of Uncommon Valor into WITP.[/B] You mean you dont have the Battle of Midway Variant Patch for Uncommon Valor?

Mr.Frag -> (2/5/2003 6:17:26 AM)
Funny enough, your dead TBD's tired out all his CAP so your SBD's could come through and cream his CV's ... Escorts are not to prevent planes from being shot down, they are there to absorb bullets and burn fuel so when it comes time to shoot at the bombers, you can't ;) I would REALLY LOVE to see some form of AMMO limit on planes, as when I get the message that CAP "God" has been credited with kill number 12 (during 1 fight!) I gotta wonder just what he used to shoot down the plane??? :eek:

CapAndGown -> (2/5/2003 8:11:10 AM)
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Admiral DadMan [B]AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/06/42 Weather: Clear Sub attack at 43,53 Allied Ships CV Yorktown, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage DD Hammann, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage, and is sunk Japanese Ships I-168 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [/B][/QUOTE] Hmm, I have never seen the "and is sunk" message in a sub attack report. Could it be that someone has been doctoring their AARs? :eek:

Admiral DadMan -> (2/5/2003 8:33:28 AM)
It was a big explosion...

Grotius -> (2/5/2003 9:17:46 AM)
Yes, Cap & Gown, the AI just does stuff no one would do in real life. Why, take a look at this AAR. I thought I'd spotted a couple of USN CVs in a TF in this port, so I put some of my Vals and Kates on Port Attack, and some on Naval Attack. I guess the CVs moved, but instead of tracking, finding, and attacking the CVs, my dumb AI pilots just attacked surface ships in port! Jeesh. If only I could minutely control which plane attacks which ship, as in real life. AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/07/41 Weather: Partly Cloudy Air attack on Pearl Harbor, at 40,10 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 36 B5N Kate x 40 D3A1 Val x 51 Japanese aircraft losses B5N Kate x 11 destroyed B5N Kate x 8 damaged D3A1 Val x 6 destroyed D3A1 Val x 12 damaged Allied aircraft losses Runway hits 52 Airbase hits 33 B-17E Fortress x 8 destroyed B-17E Fortress x 12 damaged [snip] Allied ground losses Men lost 2403 Allied Ships BB Arizona, Bomb Hits 4, Torpedo Hits 6, on fire, heavy damage BB Oklahoma, Torpedo Hits 4, on fire, heavy damage BB California, Bomb Hits 5, Torpedo Hits 2, on fire, heavy damage BB West Virginia, Torpedo Hits 8, on fire, heavy damage BB Utah, Torpedo Hits 6, on fire, heavy damage [snip]

denisonh -> (2/5/2003 10:37:31 AM)
Grotius, another good one! Man, I LOVE this thread....

CapAndGown -> (2/5/2003 10:43:37 AM)
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Grotius [B] AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/07/41 Weather: Partly Cloudy Air attack on Pearl Harbor, at 40,10 ...... Allied Ships BB Arizona, Bomb Hits 4, Torpedo Hits 6, on fire, heavy damage BB Oklahoma, Torpedo Hits 4, on fire, heavy damage BB California, Bomb Hits 5, Torpedo Hits 2, on fire, heavy damage BB West Virginia, Torpedo Hits 8, on fire, heavy damage BB Utah, Torpedo Hits 6, on fire, heavy damage [snip] [/B][/QUOTE] Torpedo hits in a port attack? Hmm, I think this AAR has been doctored as well. I am simply shocked, shocked I tell you, that anyone would do such a thing! :eek:

Grotius -> (2/5/2003 12:16:08 PM)
:D

bradfordkay -> this just in (2/5/2003 2:10:38 PM)
After Action Report 11/12/40 Night Air attack on TF, in port, Taranto Allied Aircraft Swordfish x 21 Allied Aircraft Losses Swordfish x 2 Lost Swordfish x 5 Damaged Axis Ships BB Littorio Torpedo Hits 3, Sunk BB Conte Di Cavour Torpedo Hits 1, Sunk BB Vittorio Veneto BB Guilio Cesare BB Caio Duilio Torpedo Hits 1, Aground CA Trento Bomb Hits 1, Heavy Damage CL Fiume Shell Hits 2 CL Zara Shell Hits 1

Veer -> Re: Stupid AI Tricks (2/5/2003 3:42:34 PM)
[QUOTE]Originally posted by cap_and_gown [B]-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Air attack on TF, at 9,33 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 18 Allied aircraft B-17 Fortress x 15 Japanese aircraft losses no losses Allied aircraft losses no losses Japanese Ships CV Hiryu CV Soryu Attacking Level Bombers: 3 x B-17 Fortress at 20000 feet 3 x B-17 Fortress at 20000 feet 3 x B-17 Fortress at 20000 feet 3 x B-17 Fortress at 20000 feet 3 x B-17 Fortress at 20000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [/B][/QUOTE] Why you flying your level bombers @ 20,000 feet? We all know that they are soooo much more effective at 1,000! Try that, win the war, then get back to me. :p

11Bravo -> (2/5/2003 3:46:09 PM)
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Snigbert [B][B]Some trick, the AI turned your copy of Uncommon Valor into WITP.[/B] You mean you dont have the Battle of Midway Variant Patch for Uncommon Valor? [/B][/QUOTE] :eek: :confused: :( No patch for me. Lousy supply. SOPAC leaves me to rot on this island while the brass drinks gin and tonics in the shade of a palm tree. You guys in the rear have it made.

mogami -> hex 43.52 (2/6/2003 1:00:28 AM)
Hi, Actually hex 43,52 is Manila in PI (Clark Field is hex 43,51) Air attack on Clark Field , at 43,51 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 40 G3M Nell x 22 Allied aircraft P-40E Kittyhawk x 3 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero x 2 destroyed Allied aircraft losses P-40E Kittyhawk x 2 destroyed B-17C Fortress x 1 destroyed Airbase hits 12 Runway hits 16 Attacking Level Bombers: 18 x G3M Nell at 6000 feet 4 x G3M Nell at 6000 feet :eek: :eek: :eek: Air attack on Pearl Harbor , at 112,68 ????????????????????

Nikademus -> (2/6/2003 1:14:06 AM)
I think this AAR proves fairly decisively that the AI takes liberties when playing the US side. **** After Action Report 12/06/41 Air attack on TF at 30,12 Allied Aircraft F-14A Tomcat X 12 Japanese Aircraft A6M2 Zero x 24 D4A Val x 54 B5N Kate x 48 Allied losses Japanese Losses A6M2 Zero x 24 destroyed D4A Val x 54 destroyed B5N Kate x 48 destroyed Allied Ships CV Nimitz

mogami -> Experiance ratings (2/6/2003 1:24:14 AM)
Hi, Jeez did you see the starting experaince levels for the "Jolly Rogers"? All of them are in the 90's

Mr.Frag -> (2/6/2003 4:57:16 AM)
[QUOTE]F-14A Tomcat X 12[/QUOTE] Hard level eh? What really ticks me off is that scouting report from the EC-2's ... now THAT is cheating! :rolleyes:

Attack Condor -> (2/7/2003 8:20:13 AM)
Okay - if anyone happens to run across the AAR for the SSN Seawolf please remember TASM performance parameters are classified until 1943. Thank you. Your United States government.

Chijohnaok2 -> (2/7/2003 10:05:38 AM)
I think I found found the mother of all bugs: AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/27/42 Weather: Thunderstorms ---------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Buna Allied Deliberate attack Attacking force 20 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles (10th US Special Forces) Defending force 1000 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles (1st Imperial Shogun Warrior battallion) Allied assault odds: 22 to 1 (fort level 0) Allied forces CAPTURE Buna base !!! --------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat at 51,67 25 Japanese wooden junks sunk 15 Japanese wooden junks on fire heavy damage Allied Ships PT Boat 34 PT Boat 35 ----------------------------------------------------------- Damndest thing I ever seen :D :D

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