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princep01 -> RE: The war has started (4/8/2014 8:11:47 PM)
Greyjoy, are you pessimistic by nature? The Haruna, a CA and 2DDs are bound for the repair yards for a bit, while most of Force Z is sunk or removed as a threat for many months....and you are fretting??? And, the Singawang invasion force is protected from harm....and you are whining? It is war, lad! There is no crying in war. Eggs must be broken to make a palatable omelette. All I see is objectives largely achieved, the enemy rendered fairly impotent in the critical SRA, and your precious landing force still in position to land on its objective in the near future. Based on your report, you are exempt from torment today. Bolton

jmalter -> RE: The war has started (4/8/2014 11:20:26 PM)
hi Greyjoy, this is the last time I'll be reading or posting to your AAR, I've decided to stick w/ obvert for this game. Best of luck to you. Lord Bolton's comment above reminds me of a passage from one of Patrick O'Brian's books. An 18th-century naval action is imminent, & as the ship beats to quarters, Captain Aubrey tells ship's surgeon Maturin to go below to his action-station in the midshipman's berth. "Expect some broken omelettes, presently!"

GreyJoy -> RE: The war has started (4/9/2014 5:58:06 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: princep01 Greyjoy, are you pessimistic by nature? The Haruna, a CA and 2DDs are bound for the repair yards for a bit, while most of Force Z is sunk or removed as a threat for many months....and you are fretting??? And, the Singawang invasion force is protected from harm....and you are whining? It is war, lad! There is no crying in war. Eggs must be broken to make a palatable omelette. All I see is objectives largely achieved, the enemy rendered fairly impotent in the critical SRA, and your precious landing force still in position to land on its objective in the near future. Based on your report, you are exempt from torment today. Bolton My Master, I am sorry if i gave you the idea that i was stating a pessimistic pov. It was not. I think the opening went 80% well. The PH attack was a good one, considering it was done with only 5 CVs. A BB sunk and 3 Others out for at least 1 year is almost the best you can get in a DBB strike. For sure if Obvert hadn't foresee my intentions at Singawang it would have been a better turn, but i can't really complain. Without Force Z the allies are basically left with the Asian Fleet, which is not enough to stop the japanese onslaught in the DEI...at least for the first weeks. Sure it could have been better. I preferred to tangle with Pallister at night and not in daytime and clear weather. I have lost 1 DD and have at least 1 CA which can easily sink in the next hours, but the Haruna, if she can avoid subs, should be fine. Kongo and the Atago can still fight and will remain on the battle front. Tomorrow we'll shock attack at Kuantan and Kotha Baru and then we'll pursue the enemy right their nests. The KB will move towards Wake to cover the landings and then will shift South. The Ryujo CVL have already upgraded to 36 Zero at Takao and is now moving to join the Kaga. Ziuho and 4 BBs are moving towards Bab, in order to support the upcoming landings at Mindanao and Menado, in the meanwhile the 16th Div will recombine in lower Luzon, while the 48th Div and the 65th bde will clear the upper part of the Island, pushing the enemy towards Clark as usual. The Thai Army will march towards Burma, while the 33rd and the 21ts ID are already on ships moving towards Malaya. The 2nd will be moving in the next 2 days. Engineers are already assembling at Fusan, in order to start building Port and AF ASAP. convoys are already loading resources from Fusan and Hokkaido. Next turn i'll also bild up the Vehicles factories up to....mmm...don't really remember which was the perfect number... anyone?

Barb -> RE: The war has started (4/9/2014 9:45:51 AM)
180 is not enough :D Go for 200 at least. But you can convert some armament factories too

GreyJoy -> RE: The war has started (4/9/2014 10:04:14 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Barb 180 is not enough :D Go for 200 at least. But you can convert some armament factories too Thanks! That's what I was looking for. I'll see what I can convert from armament factories. I remember I've done that in my previous game but don't really remember the balance I had found... Anyway, talking about economy... I changed a lot my mind lately. I consider HI points much less important. To be honest, what Japan lacks in 1944/45 is never HI stockpiles, but supplies (and fuel obviously), never HIs. HIs are needed to build a/c in late phases of the game, but planes cannot fly without supplies, so it really doesn't matter if you can build hordes of Kamikazes is these Kamis cannot fly. This consideration leads me towards a new approach to HI savings. Will build ALL the major ships that are listed. Shinano, Musashi, all the other CVs and CLs that are on the list. Will accelerate everything I can. Will also build some CVL/CVEs too and even some transports (the bigger ones) and many aux ships. Supplies can't really be stockpiled. You can avoid building too many bases and too many forts here and there and you can avoid wasting too many supplies on RnD efforts, but nothing else you can do. The only thing Japan really needs to do is to keep the flow of fuel from DEI to HI. Nothing more. Will be short of supplies whatever I do. So... The strategy will be focused on keeping my strategic goal as safe as possible as long as possible.

ny59giants -> RE: The war has started (4/9/2014 11:43:47 AM)
Don't forget your two Ind Mixed Bde...4th and 21st. [:-]

fcharton -> RE: The war has started (4/9/2014 1:09:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GreyJoy This consideration leads me towards a new approach to HI savings. Will build ALL the major ships that are listed. Shinano, Musashi, all the other CVs and CLs that are on the list. Will accelerate everything I can. Will also build some CVL/CVEs too and even some transports (the bigger ones) and many aux ships. Supplies can't really be stockpiled. You can avoid building too many bases and too many forts here and there and you can avoid wasting too many supplies on RnD efforts, but nothing else you can do. The only thing Japan really needs to do is to keep the flow of fuel from DEI to HI. Nothing more. Will be short of supplies whatever I do. That's a very interesting take on the economy. A few comments on this. First, unnecessary ships use a lot of fuel and will provide your opponent with "free VP". I know you don't play for VP, but you will eventually lose because of them. One strategy you might want to pursue (depending on whether you find it gamey or not) is to start building many ships, but stop them short of their delivery date, and only release them if you need them. As for supply, you are right that factory repairs and building and conversions are your main expense, and air production is the area where you spend most of your supplies. Now PDU Off allows you to plan almost everything in advance (you have all the data in tracker), I believe you can optimise your SP spending by minimizing the number of factory conversions and increases. This might mean some delays in production, but keep in mind that every point built or repaired is worth 1000 SP. I'm pretty sure this is where your main SP saving will come from. Along the same line, I think it is also interesting to try and estimate the cost of base building. I think it is less than you imagine. What costs a lot, on the other hand, are useless battles. Finally, and this is just me rambling, you have some control on the amount of supplies you produce throughout the game. China, with its huge light industry is an essential part of it, and if your opponent runs for the mountains and abandons the city (this is the current wisdom amaong AFB), he is helping you. Some of your heavy industry also has a pretty good RoI as far as increasing goes. You might want to increase those manchurian factories early on. Francois

GreyJoy -> RE: The war has started (4/9/2014 3:26:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: fcharton quote: ORIGINAL: GreyJoy This consideration leads me towards a new approach to HI savings. Will build ALL the major ships that are listed. Shinano, Musashi, all the other CVs and CLs that are on the list. Will accelerate everything I can. Will also build some CVL/CVEs too and even some transports (the bigger ones) and many aux ships. Supplies can't really be stockpiled. You can avoid building too many bases and too many forts here and there and you can avoid wasting too many supplies on RnD efforts, but nothing else you can do. The only thing Japan really needs to do is to keep the flow of fuel from DEI to HI. Nothing more. Will be short of supplies whatever I do. That's a very interesting take on the economy. A few comments on this. First, unnecessary ships use a lot of fuel and will provide your opponent with "free VP". I know you don't play for VP, but you will eventually lose because of them. One strategy you might want to pursue (depending on whether you find it gamey or not) is to start building many ships, but stop them short of their delivery date, and only release them if you need them. As for supply, you are right that factory repairs and building and conversions are your main expense, and air production is the area where you spend most of your supplies. Now PDU Off allows you to plan almost everything in advance (you have all the data in tracker), I believe you can optimise your SP spending by minimizing the number of factory conversions and increases. This might mean some delays in production, but keep in mind that every point built or repaired is worth 1000 SP. I'm pretty sure this is where your main SP saving will come from. Along the same line, I think it is also interesting to try and estimate the cost of base building. I think it is less than you imagine. What costs a lot, on the other hand, are useless battles. Finally, and this is just me rambling, you have some control on the amount of supplies you produce throughout the game. China, with its huge light industry is an essential part of it, and if your opponent runs for the mountains and abandons the city (this is the current wisdom amaong AFB), he is helping you. Some of your heavy industry also has a pretty good RoI as far as increasing goes. You might want to increase those manchurian factories early on. Francois Bonjour Francois! Sure unnecessary ships drink lots of fuel, but I don't plan to use them if not needed. They can be disbanded in port waiting for some use. Also consider that ships arrive with full bunkers so these may also be extra fuel added...am I wrong? I'm planning my air factories just like that. I don0t plan to convert any factory to some other lines than the one initially set. I'm so used to play with RnD ON that my mind is already on that track. However, even if you don't convert, repairing and enlarging those factories costs millions of supplies anyway... How much is spent to build a base? And to build forts? I've looked around and found some charts, but they are not that understandable...at least for me [:o] I will try to maximise supplies expenditure much more than HI expenditure. Let's see what i'll be able to do. In my last game I ended up in 1944 almost dry [:(]

GreyJoy -> RE: The war has started (4/10/2014 9:21:54 AM)
Erik is abroad and has very little time these days. The 2nd allied turn is a beast, so he's gonna take his time. In the while, I'm considering my options for the upcoming weeks. With only one thing in mind: speed. Don't get scared by the first allied possible counteroffensives. I know the allies are short of everything in this moment. Gotta be very focused. One thing i'll do in this game is to get to Cocos Island ASAP. Won't make the same mistake I made against QBall. No matter the cost. Cocos will be mine before the fall of Java. On the RnD... Here's the final list: Oscar IIa: 7x30 factories A6M2Rufe: 3x30 A6M3: 3x30 A6M2Sen Baku: 1x30 KI-84a: 7x30 KI-44a: 3x30 KI-45KAIa: 3x30 N1K1: 3x30 J2M3: 2x30 KI-61a: 3x30 KI-61c: 1x30 These are the only RnD factories i'll be bringing to 30. All the other factories will be left as they are, so to say the models won't be RnDed and i'll simply let them arrive and get to production Now, what to do with NOPAC...mmmm.... Don't know if I'm missing something but I remember that in my previous game there was a (*) TF at Ominato on turn 1, ready to load some base forces and get immediately to Addak... didn't found anything in this scenario... so if ever i'll be in the Aleutias not before the 15th December... mmm... isn't that too risky? We'll see... Anyway...now the KB will move back towards Wake area, supporting the landings there, then will refuel and move south, to support the invasions of Rabaul, PM and then Horn Island

veji1 -> RE: The war has started (4/10/2014 9:42:05 AM)
Cocos, Horn, Andamans, all those outer festungen that are key in either hitting an allied player that tries to bypass them, or force him to lose time and ressources trying to conquer them, with limited support from close land bases. They are, effectively, the first line of your defense.

GreyJoy -> RE: The war has started (4/10/2014 9:51:49 AM)
yes, I completely agree. Ponape will be another one! Not sure if Port Blair or another one of the Adamans. Horn, however, for sure. All these bases (except for cocos) will have mines, heavy AA, CD guns a solid garrisons...

Lokasenna -> RE: The war has started (4/10/2014 9:22:07 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GreyJoy yes, I completely agree. Ponape will be another one! Not sure if Port Blair or another one of the Adamans. Horn, however, for sure. All these bases (except for cocos) will have mines, heavy AA, CD guns a solid garrisons... I like Port Blair because it starts with a port. And the others, as far as I remember, have SBS 0 for port. No bueno. Not that you have to build the port up (and I wouldn't, because he'll be using it eventually and Rangoon is right there anyway), but it does help right at the start.

Cribtop -> RE: The war has started (4/10/2014 11:57:12 PM)
Definitely add Port Blair to the list of defended outposts, IMHO.

Wirraway_Ace -> RE: The war has started (4/11/2014 1:57:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GreyJoy yes, I completely agree. Ponape will be another one! Not sure if Port Blair or another one of the Adamans. Horn, however, for sure. All these bases (except for cocos) will have mines, heavy AA, CD guns a solid garrisons... GreyJoy, I will be interested to see your OOB for these outposts. I have not been able to find enough CD guns of adequate caliber to make any difference.

Lokasenna -> RE: The war has started (4/11/2014 4:09:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Wirraway_Ace quote: ORIGINAL: GreyJoy yes, I completely agree. Ponape will be another one! Not sure if Port Blair or another one of the Adamans. Horn, however, for sure. All these bases (except for cocos) will have mines, heavy AA, CD guns a solid garrisons... GreyJoy, I will be interested to see your OOB for these outposts. I have not been able to find enough CD guns of adequate caliber to make any difference. The big ones are the Special Base Forces, but in general look at any (IJN) Base Force - they should have CD Guns, even if they're just 8cm. Those are enough to keep your opponent honest in their TF composition.

GreyJoy -> RE: The war has started (4/11/2014 4:19:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Wirraway_Ace quote: ORIGINAL: GreyJoy yes, I completely agree. Ponape will be another one! Not sure if Port Blair or another one of the Adamans. Horn, however, for sure. All these bases (except for cocos) will have mines, heavy AA, CD guns a solid garrisons... GreyJoy, I will be interested to see your OOB for these outposts. I have not been able to find enough CD guns of adequate caliber to make any difference. Very few, I know, but I agree with Lokasenna: mines+CD guns, even if minor ones, are enough if forts are high. The plan is to bring the Wake Det ASAP to Horn Island, along with a couple of heavy AA units, a division and a couple of naval base forces. If I manage to get to 6 forts, that place may become nasty. The Combined 8th SNLF unit should go to Port Blair or, better, to Guam. The 3rd Special base force may be up to the task if sent to sensible spots like Sabang or Biak. We'll see. These three are the best ones as far as I know...

MrKane -> RE: The war has started (4/11/2014 4:34:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GreyJoy quote: ORIGINAL: Wirraway_Ace quote: ORIGINAL: GreyJoy yes, I completely agree. Ponape will be another one! Not sure if Port Blair or another one of the Adamans. Horn, however, for sure. All these bases (except for cocos) will have mines, heavy AA, CD guns a solid garrisons... GreyJoy, I will be interested to see your OOB for these outposts. I have not been able to find enough CD guns of adequate caliber to make any difference. Very few, I know, but I agree with Lokasenna: mines+CD guns, even if minor ones, are enough if forts are high. The plan is to bring the Wake Det ASAP to Horn Island, along with a couple of heavy AA units, a division and a couple of naval base forces. If I manage to get to 6 forts, that place may become nasty. The Combined 8th SNLF unit should go to Port Blair or, better, to Guam. The 3rd Special base force may be up to the task if sent to sensible spots like Sabang or Biak. We'll see. These three are the best ones as far as I know... Nico, at Horn you will need some AA too. CD does not fire with high disruption and low morale. But generally it will be nasty place. Horn Island is located in stairs hex, you will get bonus to minefield effect.

GreyJoy -> RE: The war has started (4/11/2014 4:37:46 PM)
Yes Tom, heavy AA units. Those with 10cm guns and, hopefully, also some 8cm guns too. Yes, I've learnt a lot from you about the use of mines for Japan! You spanked my butt with those mines!!!

crsutton -> RE: The war has started (4/11/2014 5:56:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GreyJoy Yes Tom, heavy AA units. Those with 10cm guns and, hopefully, also some 8cm guns too. Yes, I've learnt a lot from you about the use of mines for Japan! You spanked my butt with those mines!!! Hi GJ. Gonna be reading but not commenting much because I will look at Obverts AAR as well. Of course, you no longer need advice anyways..[;)]

GreyJoy -> RE: The war has started (4/13/2014 9:12:01 AM)
Dec 8, 1941 Erik sent another SAG towards Sinkawang. CLs Mauritius and Danae, along with 4 DDs (these are the damaged ships that start at Singapore). They tangle with what was left of Tanaka's TF. The brave japanese commander holds on and repulses the enemy without much damage, while 2 SNLF units, 1 Air HQ and 1 base force land on the beaches safe! The usual PTs Attacks at my landings at Lyngayen and San Fernando. Easily repulsed by TBs and DDs. The dutch subs score some hits, sinking 3 xAKs in the gulf of Siam. Not a big deal. I knew i had too few escorts but couldn't help. Erik also moves his Singapore bombers to Sinkawang and they manage to sink 4 xAKs...already empty Very few air mission flown. Nothing particular to report. KB moved west towards Wake, while the japanese forces shock attack Miri (50 oil and ref damaged :-(), Kuantan, Kotha Baru, San Fernando and Lyngayen. Everywhere is a success, with 2 PA Divisions mauled and 3 CW Brigades out of the war. The enemy is also railing back to Singapore from Alor Star, Georgetown, Taiping. Usual stuff. In China he's running for the Hills everywhere. Same in lower Burma. Everybody is moving towards Rangoon from Tavoy, Mergui, Victoria point etc... force Z is seen limping back towards Java. allied transports fleeing from the PI towards Legaspi and the pacific, while from Singapore Northwestwards towards Ceylon. No sign of Boise, Houston or the Marblehead. CAP already estabilished at San Fernando, Kuantan, Kotha Baru and Miri. The first res convoys are estabilished from Hokkaido and Fusan to HI. Lots of ship conversions underway. Everything is on the move. CVL Ryuho got her 36 claudes upgraded to Zero at Takao and now is moving to join the Kaga in the Gulf of Siam. 4 BBs are moving to Bab along with the CVL Zihuo, while 2 more BBs and 4 CLs are moving towards Truk to operate in the SOPAC. Next landings: Kuching, Kudat, Brunei, Sorong, Tarawa, Makin etc... Usual stuff. Night Time Surface Combat, near Singkawang at 56,88, Range 9,000 Yards Japanese Ships BB Kongo CL Jintsu, Shell hits 1 DD Asashio DD Akatsuki, Shell hits 4, on fire Allied Ships CL Danae, Shell hits 1 CL Mauritius, Shell hits 1 DD Vendetta DD Encounter DD Isis DD Jupiter, Shell hits 1 The Akatsuki is lost to firestorm... the 3rd lost DD of the war...gotta pay attention to DD losses...costed me much against QBall...

ny59giants -> RE: The war has started (4/13/2014 10:35:42 AM)
The sinking of Japan's CAs or larger gets everybody to notice. However, its the steady loss of your DD fleet that really hurts you in the long run.

GreyJoy -> RE: The war has started (4/13/2014 4:40:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ny59giants The sinking of Japan's CAs or larger gets everybody to notice. However, its the steady loss of your DD fleet that really hurts you in the long run. Completely agree. Tried it on my own skin [:o] Three DDs lost so far, not good. Gotta be carefull. However the main objectives need to be achieved and speed is essential. Sinkawang will be taken next turn. Then Netties will be based there with torps and the allied warships won't be able to get any closer to Singapore.

GreyJoy -> RE: The war has started (4/13/2014 6:49:32 PM)
The 5th Air Div will be moved to SOPAC (Truk for the moment), while the rest of the Air HQs will remain in the DEI for the moment. Thinking about bringing an Air HQ immediately to NOPAC but not so sure about it yet

Lowpe -> RE: The war has started (4/13/2014 6:58:32 PM)
Obvert seems to be willing to risk engagements early on...TF Z for example, I would guard against a factory strike/raid in the northern HI early on.

GreyJoy -> RE: The war has started (4/13/2014 8:41:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lowpe Obvert seems to be willing to risk engagements early on...TF Z for example, I would guard against a factory strike/raid in the northern HI early on. I can't do much to prevent that. QBall did it against me (a CV raid early on near Iwo) and i know i can't risk too much. Hopefully untill the KB is in CENTPAC i can be sure he won't go up there... then, who knows!

GreyJoy -> RE: The war has started (4/13/2014 8:51:45 PM)
Dec 9, 1941 An important day. Sinkawang is conquered and we landed an Air HQ at Jolo, under the cover of a strong SAG (SAG that manages to sink some ships fleeing from the PI). The Boise is moving east, fleeing towards CENTPAC. Possibly the Houston too. In Malaya, a para unit conquers an empty Port Dickson, cutting the RR line, while IJ bombers attack the elements of the 11 Indian Division moving South from Alor Star and Taiping...very good! If we manage to prevent the re-unification of the 11th Division, Singapore can fall really early! Tomorrow the 5th Division will land at Mersing. I hope to find the two aussie brigades, so to maul them off. The 18th ID will follow in 2 days, along with the 25th Army HQ, and a couple of tank Rgt. A regiment of the 31st div will be airdropped at Port Dickson so to help the brave paras. The target isn't to sink those stupid ships from Luzon and PI...i don't really care. The goal is to get on Singapore as soon as possible. With force Z not in sight, i think the 5th Division should be Landing safely (it's the same ID that has just conquered Kuantan). From my calculations, if everything goes smooth as i hope, the siege of Singa can begin with only 350 AVs present there...[8D] At Luzon everything is moving fine. The 48th Division is easily conquering everything Beyond the Clark-Manila line. The 16th Div is moving North from Legaspi. The siege of HK has begun. The attack will begin soon. Some more sub Attacks... here and there.. Submarine attack near Kota Bharu at 53,74 Japanese Ships xAK Hikosan Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage Allied Ships SS KXII xAK Hikosan Maru is sighted by SS KXII SS KXII launches 2 torpedoes -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Tandjoengpinang at 50,86 Japanese Ships SS I-162 Allied Ships CM Kung Wo, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage SS I-162 launches 4 torpedoes I-162 bottoming out .... Sub escapes detection -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Amphibious Assault at Jolo (74,90) TF 97 troops unloading over beach at Jolo, 74,90 Japanese ground losses: 40 casualties reported Squads: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled 17 troops of a SNLF Inf Squad 41 lost in surf during unload of 16th Nav Gd 15 Support troops lost in surf during unload of 16th Nav Gd 17 troops of a SNLF Inf Squad 41 lost from landing craft during unload of 16th Nav Gd /3 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Time Surface Combat, near Jolo at 74,90, Range 25,000 Yards Japanese Ships CA Maya CA Ashigara CL Natori DD Yamagumo DD Satsuki DD Minazuki DD Fumizuki DD Nagatsuki DD Asakaze DD Harukaze DD Matsukaze DD Hatakaze Allied Ships xAP Legaspi, Shell hits 1, and is sunk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Time Surface Combat, near Jolo at 74,90, Range 19,000 Yards Japanese Ships CA Maya CA Ashigara CL Natori DD Yamagumo DD Satsuki DD Minazuki DD Fumizuki DD Nagatsuki DD Asakaze DD Harukaze DD Matsukaze DD Hatakaze Allied Ships xAKL Fortuna, Shell hits 3, and is sunk xAKL Princess of Negros, Shell hits 10, and is sunk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Time Surface Combat, near Jolo at 74,90, Range 25,000 Yards Japanese Ships CA Maya CA Ashigara CL Natori DD Yamagumo DD Satsuki DD Minazuki DD Fumizuki DD Nagatsuki DD Asakaze DD Harukaze DD Matsukaze DD Hatakaze Allied Ships xAKL Cebu, Shell hits 7, and is sunk xAKL Latouche, Shell hits 4, and is sunk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Time Surface Combat, near Siargao at 88,88, Range 18,000 Yards Japanese Ships CA Myoko CA Haguro CA Nachi DD Kuroshio DD Oyashio DD Hatsukaze Allied Ships xAKL Magallanes, Shell hits 5, and is sunk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Time Surface Combat, near Jolo at 74,90, Range 22,000 Yards Japanese Ships CA Maya CA Ashigara CL Natori DD Yamagumo DD Satsuki DD Minazuki DD Fumizuki DD Nagatsuki DD Asakaze DD Harukaze DD Matsukaze DD Hatakaze Allied Ships AM Bittern, Shell hits 9, and is sunk AO Pecos, Shell hits 22, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk xAK Si Kiang, Shell hits 29, and is sunk Ground combat at Vigan (80,73) Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 384 troops, 0 guns, 71 vehicles, Assault Value = 40 Defending force 2872 troops, 40 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 72 Japanese adjusted assault: 70 Allied adjusted defense: 15 Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 0) Japanese forces CAPTURE Vigan !!! Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), disruption(-), preparation(-) morale(-), experience(-) Attacker: shock(+) Allied ground losses: 513 casualties reported Squads: 44 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 37 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 8 (8 destroyed, 0 disabled) Units retreated 1 Defeated Allied Units Retreating! Assaulting units: 2nd Tank Regiment Defending units: 11th PA Infantry Division -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Singkawang (56,88) Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 4714 troops, 46 guns, 10 vehicles, Assault Value = 131 Defending force 1218 troops, 9 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 31 Japanese adjusted assault: 135 Allied adjusted defense: 3 Japanese assault odds: 45 to 1 (fort level 1) Japanese forces CAPTURE Singkawang !!! Allied aircraft no flights Allied aircraft losses 139WH-3: 2 destroyed Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), morale(-), experience(-) Attacker: shock(+) Japanese ground losses: 32 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Allied ground losses: 642 casualties reported Squads: 22 destroyed, 7 disabled Non Combat: 24 destroyed, 4 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 7 (5 destroyed, 2 disabled) Vehicles lost 4 (4 destroyed, 0 disabled) Units retreated 2 Assaulting units: Sasebo 8th SNLF Yokosuka 4th SNLF 22nd Air Flotilla 22nd JAAF AF Bn Defending units: West Borneo KNIL Battalion Singkawang Base Force -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Port Dickson (49,80) Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 247 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 19 Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0 Japanese adjusted assault: 17 Allied adjusted defense: 1 Japanese assault odds: 17 to 1 (fort level 0) Japanese forces CAPTURE Port Dickson !!! Combat modifiers Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-) Assaulting units: Yokosuka 3rd SNLF /2

GreyJoy -> RE: The war has started (4/13/2014 9:00:54 PM)
And here's the map that shows the plan for Malaya. The absence of Force Z allows me to force things a bit...let's see if it pays off [image]local://upfiles/37890/3BBD644B5E3049C090457683CD9FC0A9.jpg[/image]

GreyJoy -> RE: The war has started (4/14/2014 6:07:51 AM)
Dec 10, 1941 A mixed day, but the strategic objectives of the day are secured, even if the losses are heavy. At Jolo the SAG fights several transports sent to its way...when the Boise and Houston arrive at daytime, the japanese have exausted all their ammos... Lost a CA and a DD, with 1 more CL and CA in bad conditions... But Jolo is captured and Nells are already present there, closing the way to Luzon from Java. At Mersing the 5th division lands without problem. The route to Singa is now open and only the two aussies bdes are able to make it back! Singa may really fall before jan 42! Now the 33rd division will join the party, along with the 38th as soon as HK falls. Can't complain Kudat, Brunei and kuching are invaded. Guam is invaded too. More news later

GreyJoy -> RE: The war has started (4/14/2014 7:00:25 AM)
So, with the fall of Jolo, now we have torpedo armed long range bombers in the heart of the PI. Boise and Friends may have some hard time escaping. Another SAG is moving to Jolo to secure the base against a potential naval bombardment. The Boise will have now to limp back to Sosarbaja to reload. Time for the invasion of Mindanao with 2 regiments. Zuiho and BBs are arriving from Japan and will aid securing the Celebes. Spotters are sent to Darwin and Horn Is area in order to look for a possible arrival of one or two American CVs... But the priority now is Malaya. I wanna get Singa ASAP. Everything will be done. Every effort.

GreyJoy -> RE: The war has started (4/14/2014 9:18:15 AM)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 10, 41 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Amphibious Assault at Mersing (51,82) TF 91 troops unloading over beach at Mersing, 51,82 Japanese ground losses: 91 casualties reported Squads: 4 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 8 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled) Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack near Kuching at 58,88 Japanese Ships DMS W-4, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage xAK Meiu Maru xAK Hokko Maru xAK Kaiko Maru xAKL Anbo Maru TB Kasasagi Allied Ships SS O20, hits 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Time Surface Combat, near Guiuan at 88,86, Range 19,000 Yards *LAGLEY IS A GOOD CATCH Allied aircraft no flights Allied aircraft losses OS2U-3 Kingfisher: 3 destroyed Japanese Ships CA Myoko CA Haguro CA Nachi DD Kuroshio DD Oyashio DD Hatsukaze Allied Ships AV Langley, Shell hits 28, and is sunk [:D] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Time Surface Combat, near Jolo at 74,90, Range 20,000 Yards Japanese Ships CA Maya CA Ashigara CL Natori DD Yamagumo DD Satsuki DD Minazuki DD Fumizuki DD Nagatsuki DD Asakaze DD Harukaze DD Matsukaze DD Hatakaze Allied Ships AM Quail, Shell hits 12, and is sunk xAP President Madison, Shell hits 27, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk xAP Don Esteban, Shell hits 2, and is sunk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Time Surface Combat, near Jolo at 74,90, Range 19,000 Yards Japanese Ships CA Maya CA Ashigara, Shell hits 1 CL Natori DD Yamagumo DD Satsuki DD Minazuki DD Fumizuki DD Nagatsuki DD Asakaze DD Harukaze DD Matsukaze DD Hatakaze Allied Ships AO Trinity, Shell hits 15, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Time Surface Combat, near Siquijor at 76,87, Range 17,000 Yards Japanese Ships CL Nagara DD Yukikaze DD Tokitsukaze DD Yamakaze DD Kawakaze DD Umikaze DD Suzukaze Allied Ships TK Hai Kwang, Shell hits 18, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Time Surface Combat, near Zamboanga at 76,88, Range 18,000 Yards Japanese Ships CL Nagara DD Yukikaze DD Tokitsukaze DD Yamakaze DD Kawakaze DD Umikaze DD Suzukaze Allied Ships xAKL Don Jose, Shell hits 11, heavy fires, heavy damage xAKL Sagoland, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk xAKL Anakan, Shell hits 13, heavy fires, heavy damage xAKL Bisayas, Shell hits 9, and is sunk xAKL Corregidor, Shell hits 23, and is sunk xAKL Dona Nati, Shell hits 10, heavy fires xAKL Palawan, Shell hits 23, heavy fires, heavy damage Erik used these sacrificial lambs in order to keep me busy and expend ammos... unfortunately it worked pretty well[:-] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Time Surface Combat, near Jolo at 74,90, Range 16,000 Yards Japanese Ships CA Maya, Shell hits 14, heavy fires CA Ashigara, Shell hits 30, heavy fires, heavy damage CL Natori, Shell hits 5, on fire DD Yamagumo, Shell hits 1 DD Satsuki DD Minazuki, Shell hits 1 DD Fumizuki, Shell hits 1 DD Nagatsuki, Shell hits 2 DD Asakaze, Shell hits 15, heavy fires, heavy damage DD Harukaze DD Matsukaze, Shell hits 1 DD Hatakaze Allied Ships CA Houston, Shell hits 5 CL Marblehead CL Boise, Shell hits 5 DD Barker, Shell hits 4 DD Bulmer, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk DD Stewart, Shell hits 4, heavy fires DD Paul Jones, Shell hits 10, heavy fires, heavy damage DD Parrott, Shell hits 9, heavy fires, heavy damage Maximum visibility in Overcast Conditions: 20,000 yards Range closes to 16,000 yards... CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 16,000 yards CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 16,000 yards Hirata, Noboru crosses the 'T' CL Boise engages CA Maya at 16,000 yards CL Natori engages CA Houston at 16,000 yards CL Natori engages DD Parrott at 16,000 yards CA Maya engages DD Paul Jones at 16,000 yards CL Natori engages DD Stewart at 16,000 yards DD Asakaze engages DD Bulmer at 16,000 yards DD Stewart engages DD Fumizuki at 16,000 yards DD Barker engages DD Satsuki at 16,000 yards Range closes to 10,000 yards CL Boise engages CA Ashigara at 10,000 yards CL Boise engages CL Natori at 10,000 yards CL Natori engages CA Houston at 10,000 yards DD Parrott engages DD Hatakaze at 10,000 yards DD Paul Jones engages DD Asakaze at 10,000 yards DD Harukaze engages DD Barker at 10,000 yards DD Parrott engages DD Asakaze at 10,000 yards DD Barker engages DD Fumizuki at 10,000 yards DD Fumizuki engages DD Parrott at 10,000 yards DD Minazuki engages DD Bulmer at 10,000 yards DD Yamagumo engages DD Paul Jones at 10,000 yards Range closes to 9,000 yards CA Ashigara engages CA Houston at 9,000 yards CL Boise engages CL Natori at 9,000 yards CA Maya engages CL Marblehead at 9,000 yards DD Asakaze engages DD Parrott at 9,000 yards DD Fumizuki engages DD Paul Jones at 9,000 yards DD Barker engages DD Harukaze at 9,000 yards DD Parrott engages DD Asakaze at 9,000 yards DD Nagatsuki engages DD Paul Jones at 9,000 yards DD Fumizuki engages DD Paul Jones at 9,000 yards DD Minazuki engages DD Paul Jones at 9,000 yards DD Satsuki engages DD Barker at 9,000 yards DD Yamagumo engages DD Barker at 9,000 yards Range closes to 8,000 yards CA Ashigara engages CA Houston at 8,000 yards CL Boise engages CA Maya at 8,000 yards CL Marblehead engages CA Ashigara at 8,000 yards DD Parrott engages DD Yamagumo at 8,000 yards DD Paul Jones engages DD Asakaze at 8,000 yards DD Barker engages DD Harukaze at 8,000 yards DD Fumizuki engages DD Bulmer at 8,000 yards DD Paul Jones engages DD Nagatsuki at 8,000 yards DD Parrott engages DD Minazuki at 8,000 yards DD Barker engages DD Satsuki at 8,000 yards DD Yamagumo engages DD Paul Jones at 8,000 yards CA Ashigara engages CL Boise at 8,000 yards CL Boise engages CL Natori at 8,000 yards CA Ashigara engages CL Marblehead at 8,000 yards DD Hatakaze engages DD Bulmer at 8,000 yards DD Bulmer sunk by DD Matsukaze at 8,000 yards DD Harukaze engages DD Stewart at 8,000 yards DD Yamagumo engages DD Barker at 8,000 yards DD Minazuki engages DD Paul Jones at 8,000 yards DD Parrott engages DD Satsuki at 8,000 yards CA Ashigara engages CL Boise at 8,000 yards CA Maya engages CL Boise at 8,000 yards CL Natori engages CL Boise at 8,000 yards DD Barker engages DD Hatakaze at 8,000 yards DD Matsukaze engages DD Barker at 8,000 yards DD Harukaze engages DD Stewart at 8,000 yards DD Stewart engages DD Asakaze at 8,000 yards DD Fumizuki engages DD Parrott at 8,000 yards DD Parrott engages DD Minazuki at 8,000 yards DD Satsuki engages DD Parrott at 8,000 yards DD Yamagumo engages DD Paul Jones at 8,000 yards Range increases to 9,000 yards CA Houston engages CA Ashigara at 9,000 yards CL Boise engages CA Maya at 9,000 yards CA Ashigara engages CL Marblehead at 9,000 yards DD Hatakaze engages DD Paul Jones at 9,000 yards DD Matsukaze engages DD Parrott at 9,000 yards DD Fumizuki engages DD Stewart at 9,000 yards DD Asakaze engages DD Stewart at 9,000 yards DD Stewart engages DD Nagatsuki at 9,000 yards DD Parrott engages DD Satsuki at 9,000 yards DD Yamagumo engages DD Paul Jones at 9,000 yards Range increases to 10,000 yards CL Boise engages CA Ashigara at 10,000 yards CL Boise engages CA Maya at 10,000 yards CL Marblehead engages CA Ashigara at 10,000 yards DD Hatakaze engages DD Stewart at 10,000 yards DD Parrott engages DD Matsukaze at 10,000 yards DD Harukaze engages DD Paul Jones at 10,000 yards DD Asakaze engages DD Barker at 10,000 yards DD Stewart engages DD Nagatsuki at 10,000 yards DD Fumizuki engages DD Parrott at 10,000 yards DD Minazuki engages DD Barker at 10,000 yards DD Satsuki engages DD Barker at 10,000 yards Range closes to 9,000 yards CA Ashigara engages CL Boise at 9,000 yards CL Marblehead engages CA Maya at 9,000 yards CA Ashigara engages CL Marblehead at 9,000 yards DD Parrott engages DD Hatakaze at 9,000 yards DD Matsukaze engages DD Parrott at 9,000 yards DD Harukaze engages DD Stewart at 9,000 yards DD Nagatsuki engages DD Stewart at 9,000 yards DD Satsuki engages DD Paul Jones at 9,000 yards Range increases to 11,000 yards CL Boise engages CA Ashigara at 11,000 yards CA Ashigara engages CL Boise at 11,000 yards CA Ashigara engages CL Marblehead at 11,000 yards DD Hatakaze engages DD Paul Jones at 11,000 yards DD Harukaze engages DD Paul Jones at 11,000 yards DD Barker engages DD Harukaze at 11,000 yards DD Asakaze engages DD Stewart at 11,000 yards DD Nagatsuki engages DD Barker at 11,000 yards DD Fumizuki engages DD Paul Jones at 11,000 yards DD Barker engages DD Satsuki at 11,000 yards DD Yamagumo engages DD Stewart at 11,000 yards Range closes to 7,000 yards CA Maya engages CL Boise at 7,000 yards CL Natori engages CL Boise at 7,000 yards DD Asakaze engages DD Parrott at 7,000 yards DD Asakaze engages DD Paul Jones at 7,000 yards DD Yamagumo engages DD Stewart at 7,000 yards DD Asakaze engages DD Paul Jones at 7,000 yards DD Nagatsuki engages DD Barker at 7,000 yards DD Stewart engages DD Fumizuki at 7,000 yards DD Paul Jones engages DD Satsuki at 7,000 yards DD Yamagumo engages DD Paul Jones at 7,000 yards Range closes to 6,000 yards CA Ashigara engages CL Boise at 6,000 yards CA Ashigara engages CL Marblehead at 6,000 yards DD Hatakaze engages DD Barker at 6,000 yards DD Paul Jones engages DD Satsuki at 6,000 yards DD Yamagumo engages DD Stewart at 6,000 yards DD Nagatsuki engages DD Barker at 6,000 yards DD Stewart engages DD Nagatsuki at 6,000 yards DD Stewart engages DD Minazuki at 6,000 yards DD Barker engages DD Satsuki at 6,000 yards Hirata, Noboru orders Japanese TF to disengage Range closes to 5,000 yards CA Houston engages CA Ashigara at 5,000 yards CA Houston engages CA Maya at 5,000 yards CL Natori engages CL Marblehead at 5,000 yards DD Paul Jones engages DD Hatakaze at 5,000 yards DD Asakaze engages DD Paul Jones at 5,000 yards DD Yamagumo engages DD Stewart at 5,000 yards DD Asakaze engages DD Parrott at 5,000 yards DD Barker engages DD Satsuki at 5,000 yards DD Yamagumo engages DD Parrott at 5,000 yards Range increases to 7,000 yards CA Ashigara engages CA Houston at 7,000 yards CL Boise engages CA Ashigara at 7,000 yards CL Marblehead engages CL Natori at 7,000 yards DD Matsukaze engages DD Parrott at 7,000 yards DD Harukaze engages DD Barker at 7,000 yards DD Barker engages DD Minazuki at 7,000 yards DD Stewart engages DD Nagatsuki at 7,000 yards DD Fumizuki engages DD Barker at 7,000 yards DD Minazuki engages DD Parrott at 7,000 yards DD Satsuki engages DD Barker at 7,000 yards DD Yamagumo engages DD Parrott at 7,000 yards Moran, E. orders Allied TF to disengage Range closes to 6,000 yards CA Ashigara engages CA Houston at 6,000 yards CA Maya engages CL Boise at 6,000 yards CA Ashigara engages CL Marblehead at 6,000 yards DD Hatakaze engages DD Parrott at 6,000 yards DD Nagatsuki engages DD Paul Jones at 6,000 yards DD Harukaze engages DD Barker at 6,000 yards DD Asakaze engages DD Parrott at 6,000 yards DD Barker engages DD Nagatsuki at 6,000 yards DD Parrott engages DD Fumizuki at 6,000 yards DD Paul Jones engages DD Minazuki at 6,000 yards DD Yamagumo engages DD Barker at 6,000 yards Range increases to 10,000 yards CA Ashigara engages CA Houston at 10,000 yards CA Ashigara engages CL Boise at 10,000 yards CL Marblehead engages CA Ashigara at 10,000 yards DD Parrott engages DD Hatakaze at 10,000 yards DD Matsukaze engages DD Parrott at 10,000 yards DD Yamagumo engages DD Stewart at 10,000 yards DD Barker engages DD Nagatsuki at 10,000 yards DD Nagatsuki engages DD Parrott at 10,000 yards DD Parrott engages DD Minazuki at 10,000 yards DD Satsuki engages DD Barker at 10,000 yards DD Yamagumo engages DD Barker at 10,000 yards Range increases to 14,000 yards CA Maya engages CL Boise at 14,000 yards CL Natori engages CL Boise at 14,000 yards DD Yamagumo engages DD Parrott at 14,000 yards DD Matsukaze engages DD Paul Jones at 14,000 yards DD Barker engages DD Harukaze at 14,000 yards DD Barker engages DD Asakaze at 14,000 yards DD Fumizuki engages DD Barker at 14,000 yards DD Minazuki engages DD Paul Jones at 14,000 yards DD Yamagumo engages DD Barker at 14,000 yards Range increases to 17,000 yards CA Ashigara engages CA Houston at 17,000 yards CL Boise engages CA Ashigara at 17,000 yards CL Marblehead engages CA Ashigara at 17,000 yards DD Hatakaze engages DD Parrott at 17,000 yards DD Paul Jones engages DD Matsukaze at 17,000 yards DD Harukaze engages DD Parrott at 17,000 yards DD Barker engages DD Satsuki at 17,000 yards DD Parrott engages DD Nagatsuki at 17,000 yards DD Fumizuki engages DD Paul Jones at 17,000 yards DD Minazuki engages DD Parrott at 17,000 yards CL Boise engages DD Yamagumo at 17,000 yards Range increases to 22,000 yards CA Maya engages CL Boise at 22,000 yards CL Boise engages CL Natori at 22,000 yards CL Boise engages DD Minazuki at 22,000 yards CL Boise engages DD Satsuki at 22,000 yards Task forces break off... Well... what to say.... we got spanked her. The Boise did lead the fire and Ashigara is left as a burning wreck...later will be sunk by ducth bombers... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 6th Indian Brigade, at 49,73 (Alor Star) Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid spotted at 49 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 14 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-21-IIa Sally x 17 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 damaged Allied ground losses: 32 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 17 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 6000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb Also attacking 15th Indian Brigade ... Also attacking 6th Indian Brigade ... Also attacking 15th Indian Brigade ... Also attacking 6th Indian Brigade ... These guys will never see Singapore [8D] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Jolo at 74,90 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 8 minutes Japanese aircraft F1M2 Pete x 6 Allied aircraft Do-24K-1 x 9 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses Do-24K-1: 6 damaged Japanese Ships DD Nagatsuki CA Ashigara, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage SUNK AV Sanyo Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Zamboanga at 75,87 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 3,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 9 minutes Allied aircraft Swordfish I x 4 Allied aircraft losses Swordfish I: 1 destroyed by flak Japanese Ships CL Nagara, Bomb hits 1, on fire Aircraft Attacking: 4 x Swordfish I bombing from 1000 feet Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Jolo (74,90) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 1379 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 89 Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0 Japanese adjusted assault: 21 Allied adjusted defense: 1 Japanese assault odds: 21 to 1 (fort level 0) Japanese forces CAPTURE Jolo !!! Combat modifiers Attacker: Assaulting units: 15th Naval Guard Unit 16th Naval Guard Unit 21st Air Flotilla 6th JNAF Coy /1 8th JNAF Coy /1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Kuching (58,88) Allied Bombardment attack Attacking force 1226 troops, 5 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 43 Defending force 3995 troops, 19 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 142 Allied ground losses: 8 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Assaulting units: Sarawak Force 2/15 Punjab Battalion 106th RN Base Force Defending units: 124th Infantry Regiment The surface engagements didn't go that well so far...always at day... and always the allies performed better than me... but I'm pretty happy about the overall speed of the advance so far. The 15th Army is marching towards Burma as usual.

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