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Lowpe -> RE: The war has started (4/22/2014 1:25:36 PM)
It seems to me that mine sweepers in any task force will sweep mines if present in the hex. This then will bring the minesweepers under fire from coastal defense batteries if present --in this case the coastal guns targeted the sweepers pretty well. I wonder if the minefields chance of getting hits depends a lot on mission type of the opposing task force? Amphibious would have a much larger chance of encountering the minefield than say surface combat? No surface combat groups seems to have run into the minefields. I know that the bombard distance doesn't seem to have any impact on hitting minefields. GreyJoy -- did any of the surface task forces clear minefields too?

GreyJoy -> RE: The war has started (4/22/2014 1:47:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lowpe It seems to me that mine sweepers in any task force will sweep mines if present in the hex. This then will bring the minesweepers under fire from coastal defense batteries if present --in this case the coastal guns targeted the sweepers pretty well. I wonder if the minefields chance of getting hits depends a lot on mission type of the opposing task force? Amphibious would have a much larger chance of encountering the minefield than say surface combat? No surface combat groups seems to have run into the minefields. I know that the bombard distance doesn't seem to have any impact on hitting minefields. GreyJoy -- did any of the surface task forces clear minefields too? To me the bombard distance means a lot! Above 20K it's very difficult to get into minefields. No, my SAGs didn't detect or hit any minefields at Palembang. I guess because the ships were fighting in the gulf and nor exactly at the harbour approaches...or at least that's what I get. Amphib TFs always get the minefields, bombard TFs sometimes, surface TFs very seldom

GreyJoy -> RE: The war has started (4/22/2014 1:48:52 PM)
Today we also got our first semi-ace killed. T.Aioi Cpt, with 4 kills, 29 missions, from Ryuho-1 fighter group. Dead with honour in the skies of Palembang

Lowpe -> RE: The war has started (4/22/2014 2:16:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GreyJoy To me the bombard distance means a lot! Above 20K it's very difficult to get into minefields. I read a post by a developer or guru saying that it didn't. I wonder where I read that, and if it has changed since written...or if my memory is faulty. The latter most likely.[:)] I will see if I can't find it... My destroyer escorts for bombardments seem to hit minefields with startling frequency even when the task force is set to bombard at 39. Not so much the battleships, but that does happen too. Could be bad ship captains too. Occasionally, the bombardment group will clear minefields, probably has to do with op points & detection levels & leadership, and still make the bombardment.

Lokasenna -> RE: The war has started (4/22/2014 2:33:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lowpe quote: ORIGINAL: GreyJoy To me the bombard distance means a lot! Above 20K it's very difficult to get into minefields. I read a post by a developer or guru saying that it didn't. I wonder where I read that, and if it has changed since written...or if my memory is faulty. The latter most likely.[:)] I will see if I can't find it... My destroyer escorts for bombardments seem to hit minefields with startling frequency even when the task force is set to bombard at 39. Not so much the battleships, but that does happen too. Could be bad ship captains too. Occasionally, the bombardment group will clear minefields, probably has to do with op points & detection levels & leadership, and still make the bombardment. I'm in the "distance doesn't make a difference for minefields" crowd. Distance is to avoid CD gunfire, IMO. You can outrange the little guns if you want to. I generally don't bother, unless I'm concerned about a high level of defense and a weak commitment on my part (tin cans, CLs, etc.).

cohimbra -> RE: The war has started (4/22/2014 8:23:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GreyJoy Yes Tom, heavy AA units. Those with 10cm guns and, hopefully, also some 8cm guns too. Well, I know I can search this LCU by myself, but ask is much more simple [:D] You mean the little AA Gun Co, or the bigger AA Rgt like the 25th located at Nagasaki? I ask because I like to know my forces better in detail. Thanks.

GreyJoy -> RE: The war has started (4/23/2014 10:45:22 AM)
Dec 25, 41 Singapore is invested. 4 Divisions but results aren't that good. One Division is completely mauled (the 5th). Will need to rest few more days. However the big city is about to fall. Air poundings will continue. Palembang is captured without a single damaged point!!!! More allied cruisers and destroyers on the bottom. Japanese CVs attack Port Moresby, while more CVs move further south towards Noumea. Tarakan is indirectly invested. Menado will be invested in 3 days. Mindanao is falling easier than what I had hoped. The 2nd, the 38th and the 56th IDs are already in the Gulf of Siam, waiting for developments In China a couple of bloody noses, but nothing serious. Burma is being evacuated[:D] Heavy allied activity in NOPAC...lots of stuff up there! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Submarine attack near Carnarvon at 47,135 Japanese Ships SS I-123 Allied Ships AGP Eridanus, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage AGP Eridanus is sighted by SS I-123 SS I-123 launches 4 torpedoes at AGP Eridanus -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Palembang at 48,91, Range 9,000 Yards Japanese Ships CL Isuzu, Shell hits 1 DD Shinonome DD Isonami DD Shirayuki DD Hatsuyuki Allied Ships CL Tromp, Shell hits 1 CL Mauritius, Shell hits 2, heavy damage DD Edsall, Shell hits 9, heavy fires, heavy damage DD John D. Ford, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk DD Peary, Shell hits 2, on fire DD Pope, Shell hits 2 DD Jupiter, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 42% moonlight: 11,000 yards Range closes to 15,000 yards... Range closes to 9,000 yards... CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 9,000 yards Japanese open fire on surprised Allied ships at 9,000 yards CL Isuzu launches Long Lance Torpedoes at CL Tromp at 9,000 yards CL Isuzu launches Long Lance Torpedoes at CL Tromp at 9,000 yards DD Jupiter sunk by CL Isuzu at 9,000 yards -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Submarine attack near Palembang at 49,90 Japanese Ships AK Sagami Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage Allied Ships SS KIX AK Sagami Maru is sighted by SS KIX SS KIX launches 2 torpedoes at AK Sagami Maru -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Palembang at 49,90, Range 10,000 Yards Japanese Ships CL Jintsu CL Kuma, Shell hits 1 DD Natsushio, Shell hits 1 DD Hayashio DD Amatsukaze, Shell hits 1 DD Asashio DD Uranami DD Tachikaze DD Urukaze DD Kyukaze Allied Ships CL Danae DD Van Ghent DD Encounter DD Isis, Shell hits 2 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Palembang at 48,91, Range 11,000 Yards Japanese Ships CL Jintsu CL Kuma DD Natsushio DD Hayashio DD Amatsukaze DD Asashio DD Uranami DD Tachikaze DD Urukaze DD Kyukaze Allied Ships CL Tromp CL Mauritius, Shell hits 1, heavy damage DD Edsall, heavy fires, heavy damage DD Peary, Shell hits 3, on fire DD Pope, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 42% moonlight: 11,000 yards Range closes to 11,000 yards... CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 11,000 yards Japanese open fire on surprised Allied ships at 11,000 yards -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Palembang at 48,91, Range 11,000 Yards Japanese Ships CL Jintsu CL Kuma, Shell hits 2, on fire DD Natsushio DD Hayashio DD Amatsukaze DD Asashio DD Uranami DD Tachikaze DD Urukaze DD Kyukaze Allied Ships CL Tromp, Shell hits 2, heavy damage CL Mauritius, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage DD Edsall, Shell hits 8, and is sunk DD Peary, Shell hits 2, and is sunk DD Pope, Shell hits 6, and is sunk Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 42% moonlight: 11,000 yards Range closes to 19,000 yards... Range closes to 17,000 yards... Range closes to 15,000 yards... Range closes to 13,000 yards... Range closes to 11,000 yards... CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 11,000 yards Japanese launch Long Lance torpedoes at 11,000 yards before allies detect Japanese presence -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Palembang at 49,90, Range 5,000 Yards Japanese Ships DMS W-5, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk Allied Ships CL Danae DD Van Ghent DD Encounter DD Isis -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Chuginadak Island at 167,50 Japanese Ships SS I-9 Allied Ships AMC Prince Robert, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage[8D] KV Edmundston xAP Baranof KV Dawson -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Submarine attack near Palembang at 49,91 Japanese Ships SS I-165 Allied Ships CL Tromp, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage[:D] CL Tromp is sighted by SS I-165 SS I-165 launches 4 torpedoes at CL Tromp -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Port Moresby at 98,130 Weather in hex: Moderate rain Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 6 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 18 D3A1 Val x 15 No Japanese losses Allied Ships xAK Centaur, Bomb hits 7, and is sunk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Palembang at 49,91 Weather in hex: Moderate rain Raid detected at 73 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 31 minutes Japanese aircraft B5N2 Kate x 14 Allied aircraft B-339D x 1 Japanese aircraft losses B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged No Allied losses Allied Ships CL Mauritius, Bomb hits 7, and is sunk Aircraft Attacking: 14 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 5000 feet Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Naval bombardment of Amchitka Island at 158,52 Allied Ships CA San Francisco CA Minneapolis CA New Orleans CL Phoenix CL Detroit DD Tucker DD Reid DD Cassin DD Downes DD Shaw DD Conyngham DD Case DD Cummings Japanese ground losses: 219 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 15 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled Port hits 37 Port supply hits 23 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Kanhsien (81,57) Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 16954 troops, 123 guns, 42 vehicles, Assault Value = 481 Defending force 36300 troops, 204 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1046 Japanese adjusted assault: 323 Allied adjusted defense: 192 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 1) Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0 Combat modifiers Defender: preparation(-), experience(-) Attacker: shock(+) Japanese ground losses: 1996 casualties reported Squads: 19 destroyed, 167 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 24 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled Guns lost 17 (1 destroyed, 16 disabled) Vehicles lost 8 (1 destroyed, 7 disabled) Allied ground losses: 514 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 53 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled Guns lost 5 (1 destroyed, 4 disabled) Assaulting units: 19th Ind.Mixed Brigade 102nd Infantry Regiment 51st Recon Regiment 115th Infantry Regiment 51st Engineer Regiment Defending units: 49th Chinese Corps 50th Chinese Corps 70th Chinese Corps 21st Chinese Corps 86th Chinese Corps 32nd Group Army -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Singapore (50,84) Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 55175 troops, 522 guns, 170 vehicles, Assault Value = 1666 Defending force 32555 troops, 388 guns, 244 vehicles, Assault Value = 486 Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 1 Japanese adjusted assault: 632 Allied adjusted defense: 559 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 1) Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 1 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-) Attacker: shock(+) Japanese ground losses: 4393 casualties reported Squads: 13 destroyed, 309 disabled Non Combat: 10 destroyed, 37 disabled Engineers: 23 destroyed, 57 disabled Guns lost 24 (2 destroyed, 22 disabled) Vehicles lost 16 (3 destroyed, 13 disabled) Allied ground losses: 2601 casualties reported Squads: 65 destroyed, 52 disabled Non Combat: 34 destroyed, 47 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 17 disabled Guns lost 61 (17 destroyed, 44 disabled) Vehicles lost 21 (1 destroyed, 20 disabled) Units destroyed 1 Assaulting units: 5th Division 23rd Ind Engineer Regiment 21st Division 15th Ind Engineer Regiment 18th Division 33rd Division 18th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment 25th Army 3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment Defending units: 2nd Malay Battalion 2nd Gordons Battalion 2/17 Dogra Battalion 1st Malay Battalion SSVF Brigade 2nd Loyal Battalion 22nd Australian Brigade 1st Manchester Battalion 3rd Cavalry Regiment 27th Australian Brigade 1st HK&S Heavy AA Regiment Singapore Fortress 2nd HK&S Heavy AA Regiment Singapore Base Force Malayan Air Wing Malaya Army AHQ Far East 112th RAF Adv Base Force 24th NZ Pioneer Coy III Indian Corps 113th RAF Adv Base Force 111th RAF Adv Base Force 3rd Heavy AA Regiment 1st Indian Heavy AA Regiment 22nd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment 5th Field Regiment -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Palembang (48,91) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 10297 troops, 67 guns, 79 vehicles, Assault Value = 353 Defending force 845 troops, 22 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 11 Japanese adjusted assault: 148 Allied adjusted defense: 4 Japanese assault odds: 37 to 1 (fort level 1) Japanese forces CAPTURE Palembang !!! Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), morale(-), experience(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 36 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Allied ground losses: 465 casualties reported Squads: 10 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 15 destroyed, 12 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 21 (21 destroyed, 0 disabled) Units retreated 2 Defeated Allied Units Retreating! Assaulting units: 6th Tank Regiment 41st Guard Battalion Sasebo 8th SNLF 124th Infantry Regiment Yokosuka 4th SNLF 18th JNAF AF Unit 23rd AA Regiment 23rd JAAF AF Bn Defending units: Pontianak Base Force Palembang ML Base Force -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Tandjoengselor (68,92) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 604 troops, 3 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 75 Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0 Japanese adjusted assault: 24 Allied adjusted defense: 1 Japanese assault odds: 24 to 1 (fort level 1) Japanese forces CAPTURE Tandjoengselor !!! Combat modifiers Attacker: Assaulting units: Yokosuka 2nd SNLF III/81st Naval Guard Unit -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Amchitka Island (158,52) Allied Shock attack Attacking force 447 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 27 Defending force 934 troops, 10 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2 Allied adjusted assault: 22 Japanese adjusted defense: 1 Allied assault odds: 22 to 1 (fort level 1) Allied forces CAPTURE Amchitka Island !!! Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), disruption(-), preparation(-) experience(-) Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-) Japanese ground losses: 1223 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 89 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 11 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 11 (11 destroyed, 0 disabled) Units destroyed 1 Assaulting units: 2nd USMC Parachute Bn /1 Defending units: 5th JNAF AF Unit

GreyJoy -> RE: The war has started (4/23/2014 4:39:41 PM)
So, by 25th Dec 1941 we've secured Palembang, Brunei and Miri. Half of the first targets in the DEI are taken. Balikapan, Samarinda and Tarakan shouldn't be much of a problem right now. We can get there safely without rushing. Cayegan (Mindanao) should be conquered tomorrow. Then only one base in the middle of the island will remain in allied dirty hands. Again, a good result with minimal efforts. Now, in a couple of weeks the KB will swing to southern DEI, giving enough assets to prevent any further intervention of the allied assets in the Japanese advance towards Timor, Darwin etc. Now the next objectives will be Batavia, Cocos Island and northern Java. As soon as we get Singapore (probably in 4/5 days) we'll relocate some assets and divert them for the invasion of Java. The 56th and the 2nd ID will attack from the north. The 16th ID will be used against Sosarbaja as soon as Clark is conquered. 3 weeks I'd say. So far, so good. Let's keep on pushing

Yaab -> RE: The war has started (4/23/2014 5:15:18 PM)
GreyJoy, it seems you are a prolific player who moves very fast with his games. I have an idea for Japan and maybe you could try it out (I am still bogged in December 1941 in all my games against AI). Basically, me idea is to create a MTB/SSX festung on Umboi Island. This island sits between New Guinea and New Britain in the Solomons. The purpose of the festung is to continually harass Allied shipping with MTBs and SSXs, even if the Allies bypass you in the Solomons by hugging the cost of New Guinea. Even though Japanese MTB have torpedoes with ranges of just 2,000 yards they should still get close enough to release their torpedoes, even in 100% moonlight, provided the weather is Overcast. Basically, build forts on Umboi, put Naval HQ (with 223 NavSupport) for torpedo rearm, some unit with DP guns (possible canidates are Combined 8th SNLF, 13th BF or 3rd Special BF - all three units are reinforcements). Put lots of AA units on Umboi to create a flak trap. Put two divisions on Umboi, some crack fighter unit for added protection and hold out. The Allies can be even in the Phillipines but if you hold DEI islands and Rabaul, their only ship route should be through Finschafen - Umboi Island hexes. Granted, the MTBs will be useless during the day, but you could still harass the Allies with SSXs during the day and MTBs during the night. I would love to try this strategy myself, but with the sluggish pace I play WITP:AE, that would be 2017 at earliest.

ny59giants -> RE: The war has started (4/23/2014 7:17:08 PM)
Am I correct in reading the last page that you faced both P-40Bs and P-40Es at Palembeng?? If so, then this mod allows the Allies to use PP to buy out some of those from Luzon and you will face them again. Be prepared!?!

Lokasenna -> RE: The war has started (4/23/2014 10:03:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ny59giants Am I correct in reading the last page that you faced both P-40Bs and P-40Es at Palembeng?? If so, then this mod allows the Allies to use PP to buy out some of those from Luzon and you will face them again. Be prepared!?! Pretty sure that's an option in stock also.

GreyJoy -> RE: The war has started (4/24/2014 6:10:20 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Yaab GreyJoy, it seems you are a prolific player who moves very fast with his games. I have an idea for Japan and maybe you could try it out (I am still bogged in December 1941 in all my games against AI). Basically, me idea is to create a MTB/SSX festung on Umboi Island. This island sits between New Guinea and New Britain in the Solomons. The purpose of the festung is to continually harass Allied shipping with MTBs and SSXs, even if the Allies bypass you in the Solomons by hugging the cost of New Guinea. Even though Japanese MTB have torpedoes with ranges of just 2,000 yards they should still get close enough to release their torpedoes, even in 100% moonlight, provided the weather is Overcast. Basically, build forts on Umboi, put Naval HQ (with 223 NavSupport) for torpedo rearm, some unit with DP guns (possible canidates are Combined 8th SNLF, 13th BF or 3rd Special BF - all three units are reinforcements). Put lots of AA units on Umboi to create a flak trap. Put two divisions on Umboi, some crack fighter unit for added protection and hold out. The Allies can be even in the Phillipines but if you hold DEI islands and Rabaul, their only ship route should be through Finschafen - Umboi Island hexes. Granted, the MTBs will be useless during the day, but you could still harass the Allies with SSXs during the day and MTBs during the night. I would love to try this strategy myself, but with the sluggish pace I play WITP:AE, that would be 2017 at earliest. The idea is interesting! I just don't think the MTB/SSXs will do much. Once the allies arrives nearby, they can bomb the Island to oblivion, simply using hordes of Fletcher TFs. They don't even need the big guys for that. I'd need to put there at least the Wake Det. CD guns and several hundreds of mines to deny them that tactic... and i'm just not so sure it is wise to place those valuable defensive assets so far from the internal perimeter... But i'll think about it! For sure i'll place there something...[;)] Thanks!

GreyJoy -> RE: The war has started (4/24/2014 6:10:58 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ny59giants Am I correct in reading the last page that you faced both P-40Bs and P-40Es at Palembeng?? If so, then this mod allows the Allies to use PP to buy out some of those from Luzon and you will face them again. Be prepared!?! You're BACK!!!!!!! Very glad to hear you're feeling better Micheal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

GreyJoy -> RE: The war has started (4/24/2014 6:19:59 AM)
Dec 26, 1941 The 25th Army rests at Singa, while my bombers keep on pounding the city (Flak losses are really high...5 more today at 15K feet!). The 38th ID is arriving from Mersing. Should be at Jaore Baru in 2 days. We are ready to land at PM and Menado, while Lungaville and Efate fall into japanese hands. At Palembang 18 B17-Ds arrive immediately to pound the AF. Find 15 A6M2s and 10 KI-43b to wait for them. We lose 3 planes, in Exchange of 3 fortresses...not bad!Damage is minimal. An I-boat places another torp into the AMC Prince William near Ducth Harbour and the ship goes down. That one is a valuable one! enemy subs sink 4 more ships near Palembang (basically those damaged during the landings), but mines are almost all swept there and the bay should become safer in few days with the arrival of ASW dedicated bombers and some SCs. The 16th ID is rebuilt at the gates of Manila. Now only the 56th and the 55th IDs need to be rebuilt. No sign of the american CVs. my glen-subs are scattered everywhere from Alaska to Oz, but they do not spot a single ship!!

GreyJoy -> RE: The war has started (4/24/2014 12:06:12 PM)
This morning, studying the map, i got very tempted in grabbing New Caledonia and Suva early, immediately. But that would mean to divert assets that are scheldued to be used against Northern Oz (4th ID, the 144th Inf. Rgt and the Guards Mixed Bde). I don't wanna get diverted from my original plans too much, cause i know how easy it is to get your plans screwed because of a lack of discipline in following the original plans. But, at the same time, i do also know that the further South you push the allies, the more time they'll need to come back biting you in your inner perimeter. Decisions, decisions....

GreyJoy -> RE: The war has started (4/24/2014 12:11:16 PM)
Also thinking about not using the 5th ID for the next deliberate attack against Singapore. The big division still has 50% of its elements disabled and it won't recover that fast. An attack right now could mean see a big % of those 90experienced squads lost for good. The 38th ID may be at singa in 5/6 days, so to take the 5th's place in the line. but that would mean losing a precious week in my timetable...mmmm decisions, decisions...once again

veji1 -> RE: The war has started (4/24/2014 1:25:35 PM)
In PDU on, I would have said that Suva and New Caledonia put you more at risk of being cut off later. But in a PDU off where pace of operations is slower for the allies, particularly in 42/43 before they really get lots of toys, I don't know how it would work out. It might really help slow them down or just be bypassed all the same. Not easy.

ny59giants -> RE: The war has started (4/24/2014 2:08:50 PM)
Let the Allies try to build up the SoPac at this point as you can overwhelm whatever that have there. Hopefully, when you do go in you can destroy some LCUs. American CVs - They get Yorktown at end of month, so by late January you could face all four somewhere.

GreyJoy -> RE: The war has started (4/24/2014 4:11:32 PM)
Dec 27, 41 Another day of rest at Singa, waiting for distruption and fatigue to get low. In Burma an RTA Div crosses the river north of Moulmein and pushes out two small Burmese battallions. Rangoon has been evacuated. Nothing is left there. Erik is running away. Very good, considering that I'm not even using the 33rd ID for Burma. Landings occur at Port Moresby and Menado. Both places are strongly garrisoned and i'll probably need some reinforcements if I want to grab those bases. The 4th ID is waiting 2 hexes off PM. Will see if the 144th rgt and a SNLF unit can overtake the defenders. If not, the 4th will land. a CL is damaged, along with some xAKs, by the CD fire... More mine sweeping at Palembang. Another cargo is blown out of the water by one of my subs near Victoria (CND). We conquer Manus, Efate, Groot Nanotea, more bases near Biak and other empty islands in the DEI. Usual stuff. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pre-Invasion action off Port Moresby (98,130) - Coastal Guns Fire Back! 32 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese Ships CL Kashima, Shell hits 1 CL Katori xAK Hokkai Maru, Shell hits 4, on fire TB Sagi DMS W-10 xAP Kashima Maru Japanese ground losses: 31 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Allied ground losses: 8 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled CL Kashima firing at 15th RAN Base Force 15th RAN Base Force firing at CL Kashima 15th RAN Base Force firing at CL Katori CL Katori firing at 15th RAN Base Force 6" Mk V/VII Gun Battery engaging xAK Hokkai Maru at 9,000 yards TB Sagi firing to suppress enemy battery at 9,000 yards 6" Mk V/VII Gun Battery engaging xAK Hokkai Maru at 9,000 yards DMS W-10 firing to suppress enemy battery at 9,000 yards 6" Mk V/VII Gun Battery engaging xAK Hokkai Maru at 9,000 yards TB Sagi firing to suppress enemy battery at 9,000 yards TB Sagi fired at enemy troops Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 4,000 yards Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 2,000 yards -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Submarine attack near Victoria at 206,51 Japanese Ships SS I-5 Allied Ships xAK American Star, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage xAK American Star is sighted by SS I-5 SS I-5 attacking on the surface Ground combat at 89,38 (near Yenan) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 13090 troops, 76 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 396 Defending force 7648 troops, 45 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 174 Japanese adjusted assault: 130 Allied adjusted defense: 61 Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), morale(-), experience(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 251 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 33 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Allied ground losses: 1740 casualties reported Squads: 119 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 58 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled Guns lost 10 (10 destroyed, 0 disabled) Units retreated 3 Defeated Allied Units Retreating! Assaulting units: 6th Ind.Mixed Brigade 7th Ind.Mixed Brigade Defending units: 19th Chinese Corps 23rd Chinese Corps 6th Group Army Here we opened the way to Yenan. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Praboemoelih (48,92) Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 9300 troops, 59 guns, 73 vehicles, Assault Value = 337 Defending force 1728 troops, 3 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2 Japanese adjusted assault: 299 Allied adjusted defense: 4 Japanese assault odds: 74 to 1 (fort level 0) Japanese forces CAPTURE Praboemoelih !!! Combat modifiers Defender: preparation(-), fatigue(-), morale(-), experience(-) Attacker: shock(+) Japanese ground losses: 8 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Allied ground losses: 906 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 50 destroyed, 49 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 3 (3 destroyed, 0 disabled) Units retreated 2 Defeated Allied Units Retreating! Assaulting units: Sasebo 8th SNLF 124th Infantry Regiment 6th Tank Regiment 41st Guard Battalion Yokosuka 4th SNLF Defending units: 224 Group RAF Palembang ML Base Force Pushing out the defenders of Palembang. Moving towards Oosthaven -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Singapore (50,84) Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 834 troops, 78 guns, 40 vehicles, Assault Value = 1442 Defending force 30135 troops, 373 guns, 242 vehicles, Assault Value = 351 Japanese ground losses: 10 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Allied ground losses: 17 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Assaulting units: 33rd Division 15th Ind Engineer Regiment 18th/B Division 18th/A Division 21st/B Division 5th/A Division 18th/C Division 5th/B Division 5th/C Division 21st/A Division 1st Tank Regiment 21st/C Division 23rd Ind Engineer Regiment 25th Army 3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment 18th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment Defending units: SSVF Brigade 2/17 Dogra Battalion 22nd Australian Brigade 1st Manchester Battalion 3rd Cavalry Regiment 2nd Loyal Battalion 2nd Gordons Battalion 1st Malay Battalion 27th Australian Brigade AHQ Far East 112th RAF Adv Base Force Malaya Army III Indian Corps 22nd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment Singapore Base Force 2nd HK&S Heavy AA Regiment Singapore Fortress Malayan Air Wing 111th RAF Adv Base Force 1st HK&S Heavy AA Regiment 3rd Heavy AA Regiment 24th NZ Pioneer Coy 1st Indian Heavy AA Regiment 113th RAF Adv Base Force 5th Field Regiment -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at 56,54 (near Moulmein) Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 4551 troops, 42 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 138 Defending force 638 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 24 Japanese adjusted assault: 82 Allied adjusted defense: 3 Japanese assault odds: 27 to 1 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), morale(-), experience(-), supply(-) Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-), disruption(-) Allied ground losses: 411 casualties reported Squads: 10 destroyed, 8 disabled Non Combat: 8 destroyed, 4 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Units retreated 2 Defeated Allied Units Retreating! Assaulting units: 2nd RTA Division Defending units: Tenasserim BAF Battalion 6th Burma Rifles Battalion -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Manado (75,99) Allied Bombardment attack Attacking force 1540 troops, 15 guns, 3 vehicles, Assault Value = 55 Defending force 3288 troops, 11 guns, 6 vehicles, Assault Value = 64 Assaulting units: Manado Garrison Battalion Del Monte AAF Base Force 205th Base Sqdn Defending units: 4th Engineer Co 1st Ind Engineer Regiment 1st Engineer Co Bandasan SNLF Sasebo 2nd SNLF 2nd JNAF Coy /3 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Port Moresby (98,130) Allied Bombardment attack Attacking force 2488 troops, 33 guns, 36 vehicles, Assault Value = 107 Defending force 6407 troops, 61 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 194 Assaulting units: Lark Bn /1 Papuan Inf Battalion 49th Australian Battalion A Coy/NG Rifles 49th Australian Bn /2 13th Field Regiment 15th RAN Base Force Rabaul Base Force Defending units: 144th Infantry Regiment Maizuru 1st SNLF Veji, Micheal, I still don't know what to do. I agree with both of you to be honest, even if I do believe that Noumea and Suva can be usefull only if I invest quite a lot in building up those bases with forts and AFs and placing there some crack TB and fighters. If not, they can be easily overrun. Let's see how it develops. In the meanwhile I'm sending the Guards Mixed Bde to Truk, along with several base forces.

witpqs -> RE: The war has started (4/24/2014 4:30:14 PM)
quote: Another day of rest at Singa, waiting for distruption and fatigue to get low. I've noticed that disruption recovery does not seem to be linear. I often see a big drop in disruption at some point, but IIRC it's not always after the same number of days of rest.

GreyJoy -> RE: The war has started (4/24/2014 4:49:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: witpqs quote: Another day of rest at Singa, waiting for distruption and fatigue to get low. I've noticed that disruption recovery does not seem to be linear. I often see a big drop in disruption at some point, but IIRC it's not always after the same number of days of rest. True. Distruption levels, for example, of the three rgts of the 18th IDs have dropped of 50 points in 3 days! Guess that in 2 more days we may be able to launch another attack without getting any distr penalty (-)

witpqs -> RE: The war has started (4/24/2014 5:41:09 PM)
What I mean is that I will see some (sometimes little, sometimes decent) reduction for one or more days, and then - BAM! - disruption will drop 30 to 50 or more % in one day.

Lowpe -> RE: The war has started (4/24/2014 7:01:02 PM)
How bad is the fatigue at Singers? There are a lot of rolls that go into disruption recovery I bet: supplies, leaders, weather (probably), base size, terrain, malaria zone, cold zone, overstacking, actions, hqs, bigger hqs, prep (?)... so I have never been surprised to see such swings. I definitely have noticed big swings...about the only constant in this game is production given enough raw materials (HI, LI, planes, engines, etc).

GreyJoy -> RE: The war has started (4/25/2014 8:25:37 AM)
Dec 28, 41 Menado falls easier than expected. CD guns at PM took an heavy price (two more big xAKs hit badly). In China, on the road towards Sian, another defeat, but we're getting there. The chinese northern front is falling apart there. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at 87,41 (near Tsiaotso) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 37721 troops, 390 guns, 437 vehicles, Assault Value = 1189 Defending force 29585 troops, 167 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 557 Japanese adjusted assault: 522 Allied adjusted defense: 994 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), morale(-), experience(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 580 casualties reported Squads: 2 destroyed, 41 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 16 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled Vehicles lost 34 (5 destroyed, 29 disabled) Allied ground losses: 1210 casualties reported Squads: 18 destroyed, 160 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 15 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled Guns lost 9 (1 destroyed, 8 disabled) Assaulting units: 15th Tank Regiment 3rd Tank Regiment 41st Division 12th Tank Regiment 5th Tank Regiment 9th Tank Regiment 37th Division 110th Division 5th Armored Car Co 15th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 1st Army 6th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 11th Field Artillery Regiment Defending units: 61st Chinese Corps 98th Chinese Corps 1st Chinese Corps 33rd Chinese Corps 5th New Chinese Corps 7th Group Army 8th Group Army At Singapore we're ready to go. Fatigue has dropped to 15/18 everywhere around my INF units and distruption is not bad now (dropped really fast to be honest!). We've ordered all my units to rebuild and in two days we'll attack. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Singapore (50,84) Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 840 troops, 78 guns, 40 vehicles, Assault Value = 1493 Defending force 30118 troops, 372 guns, 242 vehicles, Assault Value = 352 Japanese ground losses: 10 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Allied ground losses: 22 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled) Assaulting units: 1st Tank Regiment 5th/B Division 5th/A Division 5th/C Division 21st/A Division 18th/B Division 21st/B Division 33rd Division 15th Ind Engineer Regiment 18th/A Division 18th/C Division 21st/C Division 3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment 25th Army 18th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment Defending units: 1st Malay Battalion 3rd Cavalry Regiment 1st Manchester Battalion SSVF Brigade 2/17 Dogra Battalion 2nd Gordons Battalion 2nd Loyal Battalion 22nd Australian Brigade 27th Australian Brigade 1st HK&S Heavy AA Regiment 112th RAF Adv Base Force Malayan Air Wing 113th RAF Adv Base Force 1st Indian Heavy AA Regiment Singapore Base Force III Indian Corps 2nd HK&S Heavy AA Regiment 22nd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment 3rd Heavy AA Regiment AHQ Far East Singapore Fortress 111th RAF Adv Base Force Malaya Army 24th NZ Pioneer Coy 5th Field Regiment -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Manado (75,99) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 3091 troops, 11 guns, 6 vehicles, Assault Value = 67 Defending force 1651 troops, 17 guns, 3 vehicles, Assault Value = 54 Japanese adjusted assault: 40 Allied adjusted defense: 11 Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 1) Japanese forces CAPTURE Manado !!! Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), fatigue(-), experience(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 129 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled Allied ground losses: 1437 casualties reported Squads: 57 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 91 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 23 (23 destroyed, 0 disabled) Vehicles lost 3 (3 destroyed, 0 disabled) Units destroyed 2 Assaulting units: 1st Engineer Co 4th Engineer Co 1st Ind Engineer Regiment Bandasan SNLF Sasebo 2nd SNLF 2nd JNAF Coy Defending units: Manado Garrison Battalion Del Monte AAF Base Force Manus, Sidate, Waigeo, Hansa Bay, Suriago, Batu Pahat are conquered. The Whole eastern coast of New Guinea is in our hands. Biak is already building forts and AF The KB have bombed PM. without any clear result unfortunately. We'll attack Tomorrow with the two regiments present there. Let's hope i won't need the 4th ID... However is PM has all those units, Horn Island must be more or less unguarded. 13 AKEs are now ready in Japan. Will be loaded and sent half to Rabaul and half to the DEI. Need to support the pace of my operations. in the DEI, enemy's subs are seen moving back to the Bay of Bangal. Confirmed: Burma is evacuated. Find it very strange, but hey: i won't complain if i can take it with RTA units [:D]

GreyJoy -> RE: The war has started (4/25/2014 9:12:04 AM)
Think we may be able to get to Oosthaven in a week or so. Hopefully, when we will get there, Singapore would be already in my hands. Once Oosthaven is taken, shouldn't be that difficult to land at Merak and march towards Batavia under the umbrella of the LRCAP from Oosthaven. In North Sumatra, the very usefull indipendent regiment (exp 90!) belonging to the 31st Div, is marching from Langsha to Medan. I already have a couple of SNLF units waiting at Georgetown. Once Singa's strait is clear, we'll move ships up there and we'll grab Sebang pretty fast (only 2 tiny ducth units there).

Cribtop -> RE: The war has started (4/26/2014 2:36:23 AM)
Your rapid advance is now paying dividends as the usual Allies "sacrificial lamb" naval forces have expended themselves (obtaining good results in doing so it must be said). The enemy will now either lick his wounds while you play out Phase I or commit more. Be ready.

Lowpe -> RE: The war has started (4/26/2014 2:56:44 AM)
Any idea about where the Burma and Singers relief forces went? I guess not Burma.[&:]

GreyJoy -> RE: The war has started (4/26/2014 7:02:06 AM)
Dec 29, 1941 The first attack at PM goes well. 1-1 and forts down to 1. Tomorrow we should get there. The help of the KB is, once again, very important. I hate giving out the KB's positon so easily, but in SOPAC, at the moment, i cannot but use the KB if i want to keep up the pace of ops. LBA cannot do much as only Rabaul has a decent AF in the area and it's a level 3... The attack for Singa is ready now. Tomorrow (dec 30) we'll resume it and we won't stop untill the city is ours. Not much else to report. Glens equipped subs are reporting lots of activities near Dutch Harbour. Gotta pay attention up there and think i need to divert some forces to Hokkaido earlier than what i had hoped. Ground combat at Port Moresby (98,130) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 6494 troops, 61 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 195 Defending force 4621 troops, 52 guns, 51 vehicles, Assault Value = 103 Japanese adjusted assault: 71 Allied adjusted defense: 45 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 2) Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 1 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), preparation(-), experience(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 334 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 34 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled) Allied ground losses: 166 casualties reported Squads: 6 destroyed, 21 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled Engineers: 4 destroyed, 0 disabled Assaulting units: 144th Infantry Regiment Maizuru 1st SNLF Defending units: Lark Battalion A Coy/NG Rifles 49th Australian Battalion Papuan Inf Battalion 15th RAN Base Force 13th Field Regiment Rabaul Base Force

GreyJoy -> RE: The war has started (4/26/2014 7:09:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lowpe Any idea about where the Burma and Singers relief forces went? I guess not Burma.[&:] You mean the 18th ID? No idea to be honest. Could be at Ceylon, in India or western Oz. I just hope isn't at Cocos Is....

GreyJoy -> RE: The war has started (4/26/2014 10:33:38 AM)
Malaya, december 29, 1941 The 25th Army, composed of the 5th, 18th, 33rd and 21st Infantry Division will attack Singapore Tomorrow. Hopefully the city will fall. The Imperial ID will march towards the last pocket of British units in middle Malaya. The 38th and the 2nd IDs are in reserve at Jahore Baru, with elements of the 56th ID. So, by the first week of Jan 1942 i should have 7 Divisions and most of the 56th ID ready for phase two (the last regiment of the 56th ID will be available to combine as soon as the last bastion in Mindanao falls into my hands). Two Mixed Bdes and one Ind. Inf. Rgts are already operating in Sumatra. The 16th ID should be available in 3 weeks i think. With all these units, Java could be finished very easily and very fast...say by Feb 1942...By that time i should have enough PPs to buy out the 20th ID too... [image]local://upfiles/37890/6FC008D93AA14C09A5D0C99A29C73DB3.jpg[/image]

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