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GreyJoy -> RE: The war has started (4/30/2014 10:41:50 AM)
Jan 07, 42 A day of lights and shadows. The day begins with a victory. One of my subs patrolling the deep oceans, finally finds a target...and a valuable one too! [:D] American CVs near NZ? already? He must be getting the first three to the DEI... gotta be carefull and look for opportunities here Hopefully the Ent will need some time in the yards of Syndey... Paratroops took Merak without any problem. The first of a long series of convoys will arrive here from Singa. The babyKB is in cover, providing some close support. The ducths seem to be massing ships at Sosarbaja tough... combat ships! What yesterday seemed to be a cruiser TF near Kendari revealed being a STRONG SAG! The KB arrived 8 hexes of distance and attacked the bastard...heavy storms in the morning prevented any hit, but in the afternoon we placed some eggs on them! Nothing too serious, but they became the prey now! In China we're losing the air war. Too many P40s there and I haven't anything to counter them. In Luzon I've made several mistakes and let the P-40s dominate the skies. My Nates are helpless against them... and the PI army doesn't seem so weak now...[X(] B17s attacked Oosthaven. Some damage occurred. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Waipapakauri at 117,182 Japanese Ships SS I-18 Allied Ships CV Enterprise, Torpedo hits 1 CA Chicago DD Craven DD Blue DD Hull DD Dale DD Monaghan DD Fanning -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Oosthaven , at 48,96 Weather in hex: Overcast Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 10 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 7 Allied aircraft B-17D Fortress x 11 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 3 damaged A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed on ground No Allied losses Airbase hits 4 Airbase supply hits 2 Runway hits 15 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Kendari at 70,106 Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid detected at 74 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 31 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 36 B5N2 Kate x 48 Japanese aircraft losses B5N2 Kate: 1 damaged B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed by flak Allied Ships CA Exeter CL Enterprise DD Stronghold CA Cornwall DD Evertsen CL Glasgow -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Kendari at 70,106 Weather in hex: Light cloud Raid detected at 68 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 29 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 36 B5N2 Kate x 59 Japanese aircraft losses B5N2 Kate: 1 damaged Allied Ships DD Piet Hein CA Exeter CL Glasgow, Bomb hits 5, heavy fires CA Cornwall, Bomb hits 1, on fire CL Enterprise DD Scout DD Evertsen DD Stronghold, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CL Glasgow Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Stronghold and now hopefully they'll have to run for their lives! Tanaka will charge and the KB will follow -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on Manila , at 79,77 Weather in hex: Light cloud Raid spotted at 41 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 12 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-27b Nate x 42 Allied aircraft P-40E Warhawk x 13 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-27b Nate: 2 destroyed No Allied losses Aircraft Attacking: 20 x Ki-27b Nate sweeping at 10000 feet CAP engaged: 35th PG/21st PS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 5 scrambling) 6 plane(s) intercepting now. 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 10000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 9 minutes -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Clark Field (79,76) Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 1008 troops, 82 guns, 87 vehicles, Assault Value = 1042 Defending force 26331 troops, 297 guns, 129 vehicles, Assault Value = 779 Allied ground losses: 15 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Assaulting units: 48th Division 3rd Ind Engineer Regiment 21st Ind Engineer Regiment 16th Division 4th Tank Regiment Kure 1st SNLF 9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 14th Army 8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment 15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion 2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion Defending units: 45th PS Infantry Regimental Combat Team 4th Marine Regiment 1st PA Constabulary Regiment 2nd PA Constabulary Regiment 14th PS Engineer Regiment 31st PA Infantry Division 26th PS Cavalry Regiment 4th PA Constabulary Regiment 2nd PA Constblry HW Regiment 1st PI Base Force 201st PA Construction Battalion 202nd PA Construction Battalion 88th PS Field Artillery Regiment 21st PA Infantry Division Far East USAAF 301st Construction Battalion I Philippine Corps 803rd Aviation Engineer Battalion 200th & 515th Coast AA Regiment Clark Field AAF Base Force 301st PA Field Artillery Regiment -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Merak (48,97) Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 585 troops, 8 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 28 Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0 Japanese adjusted assault: 21 Allied adjusted defense: 1 Japanese assault odds: 21 to 1 (fort level 1) Japanese forces CAPTURE Merak !!! Combat modifiers Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-) Assaulting units: Yokosuka 3rd SNLF /1 [image]local://upfiles/37890/129DE232E0284D8797D63AB6211238B1.jpg[/image]

GreyJoy -> RE: The war has started (4/30/2014 10:42:27 AM)
KB attacking [image]local://upfiles/37890/628F15B83B0E44F2929B54699E676075.jpg[/image]

GreyJoy -> RE: The war has started (4/30/2014 11:11:12 AM)
With Force Z out of the war, this seems to be what the RN has available in the Whole map. That's good to know and if i can get a decent KB's shot at them, i may have free hands for some time, being so able to advance much faster in the Southern DEI.

GreyJoy -> RE: The war has started (4/30/2014 9:10:57 PM)
Jan 8, 1942 The first run was the best one. The KB moved South of Kendari and attacked the RN who stationed there, damaging 3 more CAs and sinking a couple of ducth CLs. I asked him why he didn't move them out and he said that probably the orders weren't recieved in the middle-turn save...[:(] Had to re-do the turn and it went differently. The RN escaped at full speed and the KB found only flies. At Merak our TFs arrived and started to unload. The ducth air force attacked and found everywhere our CAP. The CVs were attacked and the bombers repulsed. Same for the amphib TFs at Merak. Only two torp bombers found their way and sunk 2 empty xAKLs... ducth PTs arrived but were repulsed by the escort. Landings at Sebang. Fine. More amphip TFs loading at Singapore. In Luzon we attacked Clark and dropped the forts to 0. Good! Tomorrow we'll land at Ambon. Will be an overkill hopefully. Kendari invasion TF on the move. Lots of enemy subs around... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 45 encounters mine field at Batavia (49,98) - Coastal Guns Fire Back! Ouch![:(] these DMS were at Merak!!! 20 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese Ships DMS W-14, Shell hits 5, on fire DMS W-13, Shell hits 4, on fire Allied ground losses: 10 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Batavia Defenses firing at DMS W-14 DMS W-14 firing at Batavia Defenses Batavia Defenses firing at DMS W-13 DMS W-13 firing at Batavia Defenses 4 mines cleared -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Batavia , at 49,98 Weather in hex: Moderate rain Raid spotted at 45 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 14 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 16 Allied aircraft B-339D x 2 CW-21B Demon x 2 75A-7 Hawk x 2 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses B-339D: 1 destroyed CW-21B Demon: 1 destroyed 75A-7 Hawk: 1 destroyed Aircraft Attacking: 16 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 20000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Batavia , at 49,98 Weather in hex: Moderate rain Raid spotted at 32 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 10 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 25 No Japanese losses Aircraft Attacking: 25 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 20000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Oosthaven at 49,95 Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid detected at 20 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 7 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 51 E7K2 Alf x 1 Allied aircraft 139WH-3 x 8 B-339D x 7 CW-21B Demon x 6 75A-7 Hawk x 7 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses 139WH-3: 5 destroyed B-339D: 3 destroyed CW-21B Demon: 2 destroyed CW-21B Demon: 1 destroyed by flak 75A-7 Hawk: 3 destroyed CAP engaged: Ryujo-1 with A6M2 Zero (10 airborne, 22 on standby, 0 scrambling) 10 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 9000 , scrambling fighters between 1000 and 7000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 7 minutes 4 planes vectored on to bombers Zuiho-1 with A6M2 Zero (6 airborne, 13 on standby, 0 scrambling) 6 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 3000 and 29070. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes 2 planes vectored on to bombers Naka-1 with E7K2 Alf (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 1 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 6000 Raid is overhead 1 planes vectored on to bombers -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Merak at 48,97 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 6 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 28 Ki-43-Ia Oscar x 26 Allied aircraft 139WH-3 x 9 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses 139WH-3: 6 destroyed CAP engaged: 59th Sentai with Ki-43-Ia Oscar (26 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 26 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 9000 Raid is overhead 15th Ku S-1 with A6M2 Zero (28 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 28 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 10000 Raid is overhead -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Merak at 48,97 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 4 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 28 Ki-43-Ia Oscar x 24 Allied aircraft 139WH-3 x 3 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses 139WH-3: 2 destroyed CAP engaged: 59th Sentai with Ki-43-Ia Oscar (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 24 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 9000 , scrambling fighters to 2000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 214 minutes 15th Ku S-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 28 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 2000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 104 minutes -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Oosthaven at 49,95 Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid detected at 31 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 11 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 46 E7K2 Alf x 1 Allied aircraft 139WH-3 x 9 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses 139WH-3: 6 destroyed CAP engaged: Ryujo-1 with A6M2 Zero (10 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling) (4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 10 plane(s) intercepting now. 14 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 9000 , scrambling fighters between 1000 and 9000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes Zuiho-1 with A6M2 Zero (10 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling) 10 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 29070. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes Naka-1 with E7K2 Alf (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 1 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 6000 Raid is overhead -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Ambon at 77,110 Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid detected at 19 NM, estimated altitude 3,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 12 minutes Japanese aircraft A5M4 Claude x 4 A6M2 Zero x 9 F1M2 Pete x 6 Allied aircraft Vildebeest III x 3 139WH-3 x 4 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses Vildebeest III: 1 destroyed 139WH-3: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged Japanese Ships xAP Argentina Maru xAK Hakkai Maru Aircraft Attacking: 2 x Vildebeest III bombing from 1000 feet Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb 2 x 139WH-3 bombing from 2000 feet Naval Attack: 3 x 300 kg SAP Bomb CAP engaged: Chitose Ku S-1/A with A5M4 Claude (1 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling) 1 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 8000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 17 minutes Soryu-1 with A6M2 Zero (3 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling) 3 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 8000 , scrambling fighters between 3000 and 29070. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes Kiyokawa Maru-1 with F1M2 Pete (2 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling) 2 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 9000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 27500. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 21 minutes -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Merak at 48,97 Weather in hex: Light cloud Raid spotted at 1 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 0 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 27 Ki-43-Ia Oscar x 26 Allied aircraft Vildebeest III x 6 No Japanese losses No Allied losses Japanese Ships xAKL Unyo Maru, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk xAKL Sunten Maru, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk Aircraft Attacking: 6 x Vildebeest III launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Mk XII Torpedo CAP engaged: 59th Sentai with Ki-43-Ia Oscar (26 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 26 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 9000 Raid is overhead 15th Ku S-1 with A6M2 Zero (27 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 27 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 10000 Raid is overhead -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Clark Field (79,76) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 34291 troops, 356 guns, 254 vehicles, Assault Value = 1043 Defending force 26342 troops, 297 guns, 129 vehicles, Assault Value = 778 Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 0 Japanese adjusted assault: 554 Allied adjusted defense: 592 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 0) Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 1087 casualties reported Squads: 2 destroyed, 37 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 35 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 29 disabled Vehicles lost 34 (2 destroyed, 32 disabled) Allied ground losses: 995 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 44 disabled Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 22 disabled Engineers: 10 destroyed, 21 disabled Guns lost 19 (1 destroyed, 18 disabled) Vehicles lost 7 (2 destroyed, 5 disabled) Assaulting units: 4th Tank Regiment 3rd Ind Engineer Regiment 16th Division 48th Division 21st Ind Engineer Regiment Kure 1st SNLF 14th Army 15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion 9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment 8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion Defending units: 4th PA Constabulary Regiment 14th PS Engineer Regiment 26th PS Cavalry Regiment 45th PS Infantry Regimental Combat Team 2nd PA Constabulary Regiment 4th Marine Regiment 31st PA Infantry Division 1st PA Constabulary Regiment 2nd PA Constblry HW Regiment 88th PS Field Artillery Regiment Clark Field AAF Base Force 1st PI Base Force 21st PA Infantry Division Far East USAAF 301st Construction Battalion 803rd Aviation Engineer Battalion I Philippine Corps 202nd PA Construction Battalion 200th & 515th Coast AA Regiment 201st PA Construction Battalion 301st PA Field Artillery Regiment

adsoul64 -> RE: The war has started (4/30/2014 9:20:29 PM)
It was kind of you replaying the turn. Too bad what's happened in Batavia, mines/CD combo can be lethal.

Lowpe -> RE: The war has started (4/30/2014 10:01:29 PM)
Those DMS, if in a minesweeper task force, sweep all adjacent mines, effectively moving into those adjacent hexes which is why they suffered the coastal battery fire...they will take all other ships in the minesweeping task force with them too.

GreyJoy -> RE: The war has started (5/1/2014 10:28:01 PM)
Jan 9-10-11-12, 1942 We've landed the 56th ID at Merak, along with some support troops. A para unit took Kalidati, lightly defended. Now another division is unloading there. Batavia is threatened! CVs are moving back to Singa. They will take the northern route, pass Sebang, and go down again, covering the ID that will land at Cocos...hopefully unseen ;-) In The Celebes, we've landed the 4th ID at Ambon, taking it easily. The seas are crowded of subs... and the KB is dancing with them...scary! Then another TF landed 3 SNLF units at Kendari, taking it quickly. Air HQs are arriving here, while the KB will move towards Southern Java, covering the Southern accesses to Cocos. The Whole New Guinea is now taken! BANZAI! In CENTPAC.... wow....my subs had a field day! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack near Jarvis Island at 166,150 Japanese Ships SS I-16 Allied Ships DD Sims, Torpedo hits 1, on fire DD Hughes DD Clark DD Hammann SS I-16 launches 6 torpedoes at DD Sims I-16 diving deep .... DD Clark fails to find sub and abandons search DD Hammann fails to find sub, continues to search... DD Hammann attacking submerged sub .... SS I-16 eludes ASW attack from DD Hammann DD Hammann fails to find sub, continues to search... DD Hammann fails to find sub, continues to search... DD Hammann fails to find sub, continues to search... DD Hammann fails to find sub, continues to search... Escort abandons search for sub Sub attack near Jarvis Island at 166,150 Japanese Ships SS I-16 Allied Ships CV Yorktown, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage DD Hammann Ammo storage explosion on CV Yorktown SS I-16 launches 8 torpedoes at CV Yorktown DD Hammann fails to find sub, continues to search... DD Hammann fails to find sub, continues to search... DD Hammann attacking submerged sub .... DD Hammann is out of ASW ammo Escort abandons search for sub -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near San Francisco at 211,75 Japanese Ships SS I-4 Allied Ships DD Patterson DD MacDonough DD Perkins SS I-4 launches 4 torpedoes at DD Patterson DD MacDonough fails to find sub, continues to search... DD Perkins fails to find sub and abandons search DD MacDonough attacking submerged sub .... DD MacDonough fails to find sub, continues to search... DD MacDonough fails to find sub, continues to search... DD MacDonough fails to find sub, continues to search... Escort abandons search for sub -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Christmas Island at 174,141 Japanese Ships SS I-172 Allied Ships xAK Hoegh Merchant, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage xAK Florence D. AM Penguin SS I-172 launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Hoegh Merchant I-172 bottoming out .... AM Penguin fails to find sub, continues to search... AM Penguin fails to find sub, continues to search... AM Penguin fails to find sub, continues to search... AM Penguin fails to find sub, continues to search... AM Penguin fails to find sub, continues to search... Escort abandons search for sub The crew of I-16 really needs a medal! In the same turn a DD and a CV?? WOW!!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Banjoewangi at 57,107 Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 5 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 36 B5N2 Kate x 22 D3A1 Val x 22 Allied aircraft Buffalo I x 6 B-339D x 11 P-40B Warhawk x 3 Japanese aircraft losses B5N2 Kate: 8 destroyed, 2 damaged D3A1 Val: 6 damaged Allied aircraft losses Buffalo I: 1 destroyed Allied Ships AMc Bogor, Bomb hits 3, and is sunk AMc Enggano, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk AMc Djombang, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk HDML P 18, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk HDML P 19, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk HDML P 17 AMc Rindjani, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk KB decided it was wise to attack some tiny boats South of Java... 15 priceless pilots lost[:o] [image]local://upfiles/37890/D137436E01DC452C8E3F40D478711755.jpg[/image]

GreyJoy -> RE: The war has started (5/1/2014 10:35:26 PM)
Another attack against Clark is repulsed...but odds are slowly going in my favour there. Takes time. Patience, it's a long war. Don't know if the York is sunk. I doubt cause not a single enemy carrier plane got down... but she must be damaged and slowed... 10 subs are now hunting her in the deep spaces of central pacific While i didn't spot anymore the Enterprise...guess she went for Merlbourne...

Cribtop -> RE: The war has started (5/2/2014 12:49:13 AM)
Nice job with the subs! Two damaged USN CVs = free reign for Japan for several more months.

GreyJoy -> RE: The war has started (5/2/2014 9:09:20 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Cribtop Nice job with the subs! Two damaged USN CVs = free reign for Japan for several more months. Thx Crib, that was a lucky shot to be honest. That means that, until the Wasp arrives, the allies should be limited to 4 CVs...which is a good thing! Jan 13, 1942 The KB moves to the Indian Ocean, but not before I waste 8 more pilots due to CAP and Nav Search ranges...[:o] Ok, enough of it. I can't keep on wasting my precious pilots in this way. However things are moving. Not less than 100 allied fighters are now operating in China. From Chungking even 15 B17s are strat bombing HK and southern China... ouch!![:(] Can't do much for the moment. All my Zeros and Oscars are busy protecting the fleets coming and going from Singa to Java... hopefully things will change soon The York hasn't been spotted today. Hope she doesn't flee too fast

GreyJoy -> RE: The war has started (5/2/2014 9:10:54 AM)
Forgot to report that the Imperial ID has liberated Kuala Lumpur, killing more 18K tommies. now Malaya is conquered. BANZAI!

GreyJoy -> RE: The war has started (5/2/2014 10:00:43 AM)
Strange enough. I checked the VP counter and, after the attack to the Yorktown, it went up by 350 I terms of allied ships related VPs. I really think she didn't sink but also I knew that VPs weren't effected by FOW... is that still true?

fcharton -> RE: The war has started (5/2/2014 10:12:43 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GreyJoy Strange enough. I checked the VP counter and, after the attack to the Yorktown, it went up by 350 I terms of allied ships related VPs. I really think she didn't sink but also I knew that VPs weren't effected by FOW... is that still true? Total VP is not affected by FOW, because this is what decides if the game is won or lost (or you could lose because of FOW). As for subtotals, planes, bases and LCU VP tend to be correct (no, or very little FOW), but ship VP are grossly wrong, as they are updated on the basis of 'sunk' reports. So, if a ship is really sunk, it should appear in your VP total, once you have eliminated other variations (bases, LCU and planes, keep in mind that base totals can move a lot when a large base gets supplied, or built) Francois

GreyJoy -> RE: The war has started (5/2/2014 10:17:40 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: fcharton quote: ORIGINAL: GreyJoy Strange enough. I checked the VP counter and, after the attack to the Yorktown, it went up by 350 I terms of allied ships related VPs. I really think she didn't sink but also I knew that VPs weren't effected by FOW... is that still true? Total VP is not, because this is what decides if the game is won or lost (or you could lose because of FOW). More generally, the VP total for planes, bases and LCU tend to be correct, whereas the ship VP are grossly wrong. But keep in mind that your VP total can move a lot if a large base gets supplied, or built, or captured. Check those values before you make a conclusion about ship losses... Francois Thanks Francois, I base my assumptions on Tracker. As u know it differentiates the VPs in terms of ships, planes, LCUs and bases... so that's why I've noted that "jump" in terms of ships VPs counter... But I think you're right: it must be something else

GreyJoy -> RE: The war has started (5/2/2014 10:37:54 AM)
Just took a deep look at the Scen 30 economy... this scenario has been modified after I had noticed (in my other game vs QBall) that the economy was the one of scenario 1 but the OOBs were from Scen 2... So they added lots of LI to Japan in order to compensate for the loss of supplies generated by refineries... And now Japan is in deep doo doo [:D] Japan needs 83,700 resources to be shipped daily. Hokkaido has a surplus of 34,600 Shakkalin of 15,900 Manchukoku and China 19,000 That means that the IJ player no longer can hope to ship resources only by nearby places. I need to start organizing convoys from Formosa, Marshalls, Sumatra and Borneo.... ouch... and I won't be able to maintain decent levels of resources even like that. What did it change since last time I played it? this surely adds more reliality to the game, but I wonder what will happen to the Japanese economy in a year from now... Somebody has any suggestion? [image]local://upfiles/37890/DD5E7BF64C69492598B469A5C753F963.jpg[/image]

fcharton -> RE: The war has started (5/2/2014 11:14:49 AM)
Hi Greyjoy, The resource production/usage levels in the screenshot are not vastly different from what they are in stock. In scenario 2, I need to import about 80k resources a day for Japan, but Hokkaido, Sakhalin, Korea and Manchukuo produce an excess of about 60k, pretty much the same as you. What you don't see in Tracker is that a lot of resources produced on the continent (Malaysia, Indochina, Thailand, and China), will flow to Korea or Manchukuo, and then, you have large stocks at start that allow you to import more than you produce. Overall, I don't think resources will be a problem. Supply might be, though, and it will be interesting to follow. I am a bit curious about the way play balance is evolving for the long scenarios. We now have more than a few complete games AARed, and it seems that even with the benefit of hindsight, PDU On, the possibility to take China out of the war, and all the goodies you get in scenario 2, reaching August 1945, as Japan, against a competent US player, is very difficult. I wonder what impact the improvements in DBB will have on long campaign balance. So far, we lack experience, but I strongly suspect 45 will be extremely hard to reach now. I believe the heart of the problem lies in the way supplies, which are needed for pretty much everything, flow relatively easily over the map. I believe this is what allows the fast paces we often observe. For Japan, this can be corrected by reducing production, and it works for the early part of the war, but I suspect it will also increase late war imbalance. Francois

Yaab -> RE: The war has started (5/2/2014 11:35:11 AM)
There should be surplus resources in Naga and Amami Oshima, and surplus resources on Formosa and Indochina. Also, you could try to ship resources from Nauru and Ocean Island to Truk. Both islands will yield 430,000 resources in 6 months, provided the Allies will let you ship them that long. The resources can be later picked up by ships bringing supplies from Home Islands to Truk. The best would be just to conquer the whole of China for its Resource Centers and Light Industry. Thus, you will produce more supply, will have resource surplus (to be shipped from Shanghai to Home Island) and more HI points.

ny59giants -> RE: The war has started (5/2/2014 11:54:57 AM)
ANY ship that is hit by a torpedo that explodes WILL show up as sunk!! Thus, Yorktown will be there for some time even though I doubt two TT hits are enough to sink her. Resources - Its been a while, but a CS Convoy from Shanghai to Japan with about 20k in resources returning to Japan and 20k in supply returning. Philippines - I build up Naga port to 4. I use two or three small TFs to move resources from the small size 2 ports in the Archipelago to Naga. Eventually, they get to Japan from Manila. For now, hit the "B" button to pull up Bases and sort by Resources to see where you may have some being stockpiled that you can transport back to Japan.

Encircled -> RE: The war has started (5/2/2014 12:31:10 PM)
Those supply figures are not great That is going to affect your plan to build a lot of forts?

MrKane -> RE: The war has started (5/2/2014 12:33:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GreyJoy Just took a deep look at the Scen 30 economy... this scenario has been modified after I had noticed (in my other game vs QBall) that the economy was the one of scenario 1 but the OOBs were from Scen 2... So they added lots of LI to Japan in order to compensate for the loss of supplies generated by refineries... And now Japan is in deep doo doo [:D] Japan needs 83,700 resources to be shipped daily. Hokkaido has a surplus of 34,600 Shakkalin of 15,900 Manchukoku and China 19,000 That means that the IJ player no longer can hope to ship resources only by nearby places. I need to start organizing convoys from Formosa, Marshalls, Sumatra and Borneo.... ouch... and I won't be able to maintain decent levels of resources even like that. What did it change since last time I played it? this surely adds more reliality to the game, but I wonder what will happen to the Japanese economy in a year from now... Somebody has any suggestion? [image]local://upfiles/37890/DD5E7BF64C69492598B469A5C753F963.jpg[/image] Hmm, we played the old version, and resources form nearby places did not sustain Jap production either. I have to transport a lot of stuff from DEI. In my solution all goodies were shipped to Hongkong/Canton area and move over land to Shanghai and next to it big port(up river).

Amoral -> RE: The war has started (5/2/2014 3:28:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Encircled Those supply figures are not great That is going to affect your plan to build a lot of forts? Why would it affect his plan to build forts? Am I misunderstanding Greymane's chart? He says that engineers construction do not use any extra supplies. Specifically point two from Greymane's document: 2. Supply Consumption Rate. Engineers in combat mode consume roughly the same amount of supply whether they are constructing bases or not. http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=2885601&mpage

JohnDillworth -> RE: The war has started (5/2/2014 4:19:40 PM)
not sure if this is always accurate but checking the planes lost per turn screen is sometimes a good indication of a carrier being sunk. if you see 36 SBD's, 18 Devastators and 36 Wildcats or something close to this lost it's probably a pretty good indication one of his CV's had a bad day

Encircled -> RE: The war has started (5/2/2014 9:25:54 PM)
I'm talking about fort construction as in base fortification. Thats going to cost supply

modrow -> RE: The war has started (5/3/2014 5:18:51 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GreyJoy quote: ORIGINAL: fcharton quote: ORIGINAL: GreyJoy Strange enough. I checked the VP counter and, after the attack to the Yorktown, it went up by 350 I terms of allied ships related VPs. I really think she didn't sink but also I knew that VPs weren't effected by FOW... is that still true? Total VP is not, because this is what decides if the game is won or lost (or you could lose because of FOW). More generally, the VP total for planes, bases and LCU tend to be correct, whereas the ship VP are grossly wrong. But keep in mind that your VP total can move a lot if a large base gets supplied, or built, or captured. Check those values before you make a conclusion about ship losses... Francois Thanks Francois, I base my assumptions on Tracker. As u know it differentiates the VPs in terms of ships, planes, LCUs and bases... so that's why I've noted that "jump" in terms of ships VPs counter... But I think you're right: it must be something else In my experience, tracker ship VP are unreliable and seem to be based on "sunk ship" messages. If you see the jump in ship VPs on the info screen in-game, in my experience it is reliable. Otherwise prepare to meet the ship again. And no, not at the end of the world in a desert full of stone-shaped crabs. Hartwig Hartwig

GreyJoy -> RE: The war has started (5/3/2014 6:48:45 AM)
Thank you all for your infos guys! Yes, Yorktown is confirmed alive and wounded. Jan 16, 1942 The Yorktown is spotted by an Alf FP aboard an AMC. Moving at 5 knots, heavily escorted by what seem to be a SAG and an ASW TF. Moving South towards Thaiti. 10 subs and 2 AMCs are on her heels. Let's see if we can get lucky again[:)] At Tarakan my two SNLF units are making very slow progresses. Defences there are stronger than expected. In the PI, another deliberate attack at Clark Field ended up with a bad 1-3 in his favour. Forts must be growing again cause i cannot get rid of those pesky 30 P-40s based at Clark... The AVG with P-40s is giving me hard times in China too. They dominate the skies and are Always followed by B17s from Chungking. I have nothing to throw against them at the moment. On the ground in China the only progresses are made against Sian, where our 1st Army reached the gates of the big city. Will try to circle around it to avoid a shock attack and see if we can make him suffer for defending so forward. For the rest, the circling of Batavia continues. Slowly but steadly. The Soryu, detached from the KB, managed to catch the PG Sosarbaja escorting some aux ducth ships back to Perth. That is a good catch cause that PG has 280mm guns and it's a very valuable ships. The KB is now reaching Cocos, waiting for the upcoming invasion

GreyJoy -> RE: The war has started (5/3/2014 6:55:52 AM)
About Resources... Thank you all. I see that i badly need to conquest (and defend!) more resources centers in China if i want to avoid getting all those expensive res back from Ocean Is. and other far away places. Don't know if i'll be able to do it. Things in China aren't going that good at the moment... However i've already set up a system that is able to bring 56K res daily back to Japan. probably i can arrive at 70K in a couple of weeks. Then, as soon as the initial phase is over, i'll devote more efforts in bringing back all those res from Formosa and Borneo. @ Francois: yes, supplies are a problem, for sure. In my other game against QBall, in mid 1944, i had reached a point where supplies were more than scarse everywhere...and the flow of oil and fuel wasn't even touched by the allied advance! But i think that is the only way to rapresent the problems Japan had in RL.... Yet the problem exists if Japan is winning and even then it has supplies shortages (remember PzB's problems against Andy, right?) However we'll all see how it develops

Yaab -> RE: The war has started (5/3/2014 5:16:31 PM)
I wonder if you could create enough demand for resources at Chefoo (China), which starts as a small port, so you can ferry the resources from Chefoo to Port Arthur, so they can later move automatically from Port Arthur to Fusan by land. Thus, even in the later stages of the game when the fuel for ships is scarce, you could just hop resources from Chefoo to Port Arthur (2 hexes), and then from Fusan to Fukuoka (2 hexes). Very short trips.

GreyJoy -> RE: The war has started (5/4/2014 7:25:57 AM)
Jan 17-18-19, 1942 The chase of the Yorktown continues in CENTPAC. I had followed her with 2 AMCs and 10 subs untill she reached Penhrin Island, trying to get the subs on her path. No luck this time! The AMCs engaged some AKs that were nearby and sunk 2 of them, in combination with the I-18, but the following day one of them was intercepted by the Yorktown escort (1 cruiser and 2 DDs) that put her down. The Lady York must be there, disbanded in port but i cannot get to her...grrrrrrrr.... all my assets are far away on the other side of the world with no hope of getting there... pity! In China the situation is severe. Without any hope of getting the air superiority, the Whole front is stuck. Same for Luzon, where the allies even regained some terrain towards Legaspi, conquering Naga back... All my Attacks against Clark are repulsed and the AFs at Manila and Clark are repaired again with at least 2 full squadrons of P40s contesting the skies. The only real news comes from India. Here's the plan: on Jan 18th, 330 ships popped up near Akyab. 6 Divisions (5th, 18th, 21st, 2nd, 33rd, 38th), along with 15 AA units, 5 tank regiments, 1 Command HQ, 1 Army HQ (25th), 3 Air HQs, several base forces, 9 Ind Cbt Eng regiments and several artillery units are ready to be landed in India. Destination? Diamond Harbour and then Calcutta. At the same time the 55th ID is Landing at Akyab, along with the 15th Army HQ and some base forces. The Air cover is provided by Kaga, Zuiho, Ryuho and Tayhio. The Imperial Guards Div, which has just finished off the conquest of Malaya with the fall of Temuloh, will be sent there too, along with 4 Para units and several more Eng. Rgts. What is the idea Beyond this? Well, considering how bad we're doing in China and seeing that Obvert is fleeing from Burma i thought it could be a good thing to exploit an easy advance in Burma simply using the Thai Divisions, thus freeing up the 55th ID. India cannot be conquered. Not against a good player. But it's very weak early on and i wanna try to exploit the initial japanese superiority in some places that really matters. Calcutta (if conquered intact) can be a real boost for the japanese economy. Along with the fields at Ledo it can add something to the japaese war effort. the other reason is strategical. Conquering Assam means securing Burma and isolating completely China. Ceylon is on my list two. If the adventure at Calcutta goes well, i'll be sending 2 IDs to conquer it ASAP, thus covering my left flank. The third thing is that is something i've never tried to do...and i'm very curious! Will be fun! Anyway, here's the plan: the 25th Army with its 6 IDs will march towards Calcutta, while the 15th Army, with the 55th ID, will take Akyab (defended by a Gurka Bde) and then march on the coast road towards Chittagong and Dacca. Paras will immediately try to conquer empty bases and stop the RR network, hoping to stop or delay the units fleeing from Burma. 180 Zeros and 150 Oscars are ready to be transfered from Rangoon. 7 Sentais of Sallies and 6 of Betties are waiting too. 12 subs are moving to India, in order to try to get something that arrives from CT or Aden Somewhere else... The KB arrived at Cocos right when the invasion TF reached the destination. Couldn't recon it so i didn't know what was there. My subs had spotted a lot of ships moving in and out in the past weeks but nothing precise... I had sent there 1 Mix bde and 1 Mix Rgt, along with a naval guard unit... it was barely enough!!!! Tanaka with 2 BBs, 4 CAs and several DDs bombed the atoll. The KB added its power ground bombing in the afternoon. The japanese soldiers stormed on the beaches and found not less than 6000 men there!!! Losses were horrendous on our side, but we managed to get it...barely! These units will now be sent to Java. The KB will now move South again. Will cover the invasion of Timor (4th ID) and of Northern Oz. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Naval bombardment of Cocos Islands at 33,101 Japanese Ships BB Kirishima BB Hiei CA Kako CA Furutaka CA Kinugasa CA Aoba DD Uzuki DD Oboro DD Shiranui DD Isokaze DD Kagero Allied ground losses: 275 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 19 disabled Engineers: 2 destroyed, 3 disabled Guns lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled) Port hits 15 Port fuel hits 3 Port supply hits 1 ---------------------------------------------- Pre-Invasion action off Cocos Islands (33,101) Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force 48 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese Ships BB Mutsu CL Yubari CL Isuzu DD Hayashio PB Shosei Maru PB Nanpo Maru PB Kiso Maru PB Aso Maru #3 AK Sasako Maru DD Amatsukaze DD Kisaragi Japanese ground losses: 23 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Allied ground losses: 120 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 9 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled CL Yubari firing at 6th Indian Brigade CL Isuzu firing at Nichols Field AAF Base Force DD Hayashio firing at 2nd ISF Base Force PB Shosei Maru fired at enemy troops PB Nanpo Maru fired at enemy troops PB Kiso Maru fired at enemy troops PB Aso Maru #3 fired at enemy troops Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 6,000 yards Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 2,000 yards ------------------------------------------ Afternoon Air attack on 2nd Argylls Battalion, at 33,101 (Cocos Islands) Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid detected at 108 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 40 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 27 B5N2 Kate x 89 D3A1 Val x 72 Japanese aircraft losses B5N2 Kate: 1 damaged D3A1 Val: 2 damaged Allied ground losses: 128 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Ground combat at Cocos Islands (33,101) Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 9928 troops, 84 guns, 11 vehicles, Assault Value = 273 Defending force 5234 troops, 43 guns, 26 vehicles, Assault Value = 53 Japanese adjusted assault: 144 Allied adjusted defense: 9 Japanese assault odds: 16 to 1 (fort level 2) Japanese forces CAPTURE Cocos Islands !!! Allied aircraft no flights Allied aircraft losses PBY-4 Catalina: 1 destroyed Combat modifiers Defender: disruption(-), preparation(-), morale(-), experience(-) Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-) Japanese ground losses: 1468 casualties reported Squads: 7 destroyed, 158 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled Guns lost 16 (1 destroyed, 15 disabled) Allied ground losses: 2868 casualties reported Squads: 81 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 319 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 61 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 56 (56 destroyed, 0 disabled) Vehicles lost 29 (29 destroyed, 0 disabled) Units destroyed 13 Assaulting units: 4th Ind.Mixed Regiment 21st Ind.Mixed Brigade 91st Naval Guard Unit Defending units: 28th Gurkha Brigade 6th Indian Brigade 2nd Argylls Battalion Sarawak Force /1 109th RAF Adv Base Force 1st Port Maint Engineer Battalion 110th RAF Adv Base Force Nichols Field AAF Base Force 2nd ISF Base Force 113th RAF Adv Base Force Del Monte AAF Base Force 111th RAF Adv Base Force 223 Group RAF /2 How could these guys get here from Malaya???[X(] ------------------------ Ground combat at Akyab (54,45) Allied Bombardment attack Attacking force 2601 troops, 14 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 85 Defending force 8318 troops, 105 guns, 84 vehicles, Assault Value = 288 Assaulting units: 48th Gurkha Brigade Defending units: 55th Cavalry Regiment 112th Infantry Rgt /7 55th Engr Rgt /4 143rd Infantry Rgt /6 55th Mountain Gun Regiment 21st Medium Field Artillery Battalion 4th JAAF Base Force -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Temuloh (50,78) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 8709 troops, 64 guns, 34 vehicles, Assault Value = 275 Defending force 4306 troops, 21 guns, 11 vehicles, Assault Value = 83 Japanese adjusted assault: 222 Allied adjusted defense: 52 Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 1) Japanese forces CAPTURE Temuloh !!! Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), leaders(-), preparation(-), fatigue(-) morale(-), experience(-), supply(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 170 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 13 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Allied ground losses: 4611 casualties reported Squads: 78 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 247 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 10 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 20 (20 destroyed, 0 disabled) Vehicles lost 7 (7 destroyed, 0 disabled) Units destroyed 5 Assaulting units: Imperial Guards/B Division Imperial Guards/C Division Defending units: 8th Indian Brigade 1st Hyderabad Battalion 22nd Indian Brigade 3rd HK&S Light AA Regiment FMSV Brigade And this puts an end to the british resistance in Malaya[:'(]

GreyJoy -> RE: The war has started (5/4/2014 7:27:39 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Yaab I wonder if you could create enough demand for resources at Chefoo (China), which starts as a small port, so you can ferry the resources from Chefoo to Port Arthur, so they can later move automatically from Port Arthur to Fusan by land. Thus, even in the later stages of the game when the fuel for ships is scarce, you could just hop resources from Chefoo to Port Arthur (2 hexes), and then from Fusan to Fukuoka (2 hexes). Very short trips. Think it's not really needed. If you create enough demand at Fusan, the resources will eventually flow automatically from China to Korea, provided the connection is granted.

GreyJoy -> RE: The war has started (5/4/2014 7:39:47 AM)
Now the real question is: what does he have at Calcutta? What does he have in India right now? the 6th Aus div could be already there (provided he hasn't made the mistake of sending it to Oz), while the 7th shouldn't be arrived at Aden yet. These are the only units i should fear. The RAF, at this stage, should be an easy opponent (at least i hope so). He will need to call back those pesky P-40s from China and Luzon if he really want to have a chance to contest the skies in India... and that should help me too!

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