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Belisarius -> (2/15/2003 6:51:13 PM)
FO's and movers can go outside of the points allocation. Ammo dumps are expensive, but they eliminate the need for more guns and/or restrictions on firing, so if you need them I'd say they go within the limits. Then again, an additional ammo dump vs. a company of infantry or a couple of extra tanks? Prioritizing one's purchases limits the amount of ammo dumps anyway. And they are juicy targets! :D Eh..so.. I guess I can go with both alternatives.

Gary Tatro -> (2/15/2003 8:14:44 PM)
[QUOTE]Originally posted by rbrunsman [B] Gary, I hope you don't feel like I've personally attacked you. I can only provide my thoughts based on my experiences in the first WC. So, since I didn't really lose to anyone else, my thoughts on improving the next one are mostly based on that loss. I can't really gripe about the wins I had can I? :) [/B][/QUOTE] RB nah don't take much personally except for being beat. :D :D :D

red -> (2/15/2003 10:36:28 PM)
Countries. Pick two --------- Country A: Country B: Note: first game your opponent picks your country out after that you alternate) Year. ----- Round 1: 1941 Round 2: 1942 Round 3: 1943 Round 4: 1944 Round 5: 1945 Note: This will test your skill on throughout the world war II. The month is up to you and your opponent. After Round 5 you decide on the year. Standard Setup -------------- * C&C OFF * True Rarity ON * 10% artillery includes all units capable of indirect fire. * No pre-laid Mines * Meeting engagement * 1 Platoon infiltrators Max (4 squads) no minimum. * 2 airstrikes Max. (4 planes) No mIn. * game points 4000-7000 Note: Both players can agree on different terms if they want. Response Time ------------- If the player doesnt respond or make contact his opponent within 3 days, the game is forfeited. Staying Alive ------------- You get 1 point for a win determined by the number of points calculated by the AI after the game is finished. Everybody will play 3 games. In order to procede to Round 4, you must have 2 points. Starting with Round 4, the contest becomes like playoffs, if you lose a game, you are out. Player List: ------------ red (aka The Matrix) AngryDeemon1 (aka Matrix Insurgent) rbrunsman (Matrix Veteran) Rokondo (Matrix Veteran) sandman20 (aka Private) Capt. Pixel (Matrix Veteran) CPT Shoe (Matrix Recruit) M4 Jess (aka Matrix Kat Killer) Brutto-Bob (Matrix Trooper) RobW (Matrix Trooper) mlomax (Matrix Trooper) 3/2 ACR (aka KAT KILLER) Gary Tatro (Matrix Veteran) dodger (Matrix Trooper) Shiner (Matrix Recruit) Buzzard45 (Matrix Recruit) VikingNo2 (Matrix Hero) WC'02 BlueLavender (Matrix Recruit) Hades (aka Captain of Gondor) Ironfist (Matrix Recruit) Scharfschütze (Matrix Veteran) Belisarius (Matrix Sturmtrooper) Jim Lindquist (Matrix Recruit) Stonefire (Matrix Recruit) Mogami (aka Free Roaming Vapor) ThomasBELL123 (Matrix Recruit) willy (Matrix Veteran) Final Note ---------- Please, sign in with your two countries of choice. If you have strenuous objections to any article of the rules, it will be noted and even may be addressed.

AngryDeemon1 -> (2/15/2003 10:42:28 PM)
Ill take USSR/USA

sandman20 -> (2/15/2003 10:48:14 PM)
I'll take 1. USA 2. Germany

Buzzard45 -> Good Rules. (2/15/2003 10:51:19 PM)
I like the rules. Any time limit on games? Enter me as Brits and Germany. I'm with yah, RobW. Shall you pour or may I? Crumpets, anyone?:)

Belisarius -> (2/15/2003 10:55:18 PM)
1. Germany 2. Finland 3. Soviet Union Game length; how about 20 turns max, no per-turn VHs?

red -> (2/15/2003 10:57:23 PM)
Belisarius, Germany/Finland or Germany/Soviet Union?

ThomasBELL123 -> Country (2/15/2003 10:58:55 PM)
German US

Belisarius -> (2/15/2003 11:02:29 PM)
Red: I'll go with Germany and Finland (<--challenge to myself, there)

3/2 ACR -> Country (2/15/2003 11:03:33 PM)
1 American 2 USMC

Rokondo -> Agree with the rules (2/15/2003 11:06:45 PM)
I will take US/Germany !

CPT Shoe -> (2/15/2003 11:22:12 PM)
Germany and the US

Hades -> (2/16/2003 12:14:23 AM)
Minor oobs are only fighting minor oobs right? My choices 1. Russians 2. Indians

VikingNo2 -> (2/16/2003 12:28:35 AM)
I think the Minor vs Minor thing needs to be answered, one other question 7.1 or H2H USA and Germany please

stevemk1a -> (2/16/2003 2:00:16 AM)
Germany and Brits/Canucks if possible, please ... :)

dodger -> (2/16/2003 2:27:00 AM)
Germany and Finland here. -Jani

red -> (2/16/2003 2:30:33 AM)
The game version is up to the players. The standard for the game is 7.1

Shiner -> (2/16/2003 2:40:24 AM)
Okay, As my two countries I chose: 1) USSR 2) Germany

dodger -> (2/16/2003 2:53:08 AM)
One more thing. Is everything allowed that's not expressly forbidden? Can you use forts to protect your rear in a meeting engagement, drop paratroops, use ski troops in summer, etc..?? I plan to play Finland, and they didn't have "Ski troops" that they only used in the winter and mothballed for the summer. Finnish ski patrols were regular infantry that was equipped a little better, and maybe chosen from the better elements of companies. -Jani

Buzzard45 -> Ski Troops? (2/16/2003 3:29:54 AM)
[QUOTE]Originally posted by dodger [B]One more thing. Is everything allowed that's not expressly forbidden? Can you use forts to protect your rear in a meeting engagement, drop paratroops, use ski troops in summer, etc..??[B] I don't think that you can buy forts in a meeting engagement. As for paratroops, they need air transport if they are to be other than ground troops. You would be advised to clear this up with your opponent as to whether Air transport is part of Airstrikes or not. I would not spring this on someone I was playing. Ski troops? Why not? but ask Rbrunsman about them first. For those of you confused about major-minor countries, read the rules again. You were asked to pick two countries to alternate between.

sandman20 -> (2/16/2003 3:42:09 AM)
[QUOTE]I don't think that you can buy forts in a meeting engagement. [/QUOTE] Buzzard45: Actually Soviet Union have a some kind of Gun Casement in meeting engagements, but It's not very useful, just waste of points...

red -> (2/16/2003 3:58:21 AM)
Meeting engagement by its nature doesn't allow for fortifications.

Hades -> (2/16/2003 5:18:51 AM)
Well if it is a high vis map and you have a big hill for overwatch they could be quite useful

red -> (2/16/2003 5:24:19 AM)
Hades, have you reconsidered your minor country choice yet? May be Finland at least?

Hades -> (2/16/2003 5:42:47 AM)
sure ill go with finland may the sissi squads rule the day

AngryDeemon1 -> (2/16/2003 5:46:05 AM)
Hey red once i kick all of your sorry butts do I get a cool t-34 shirt like Viking did?

red -> (2/16/2003 6:24:38 AM)
Actually, I do have another one like that but I thought this time it should be something different, othertwise it'd be kinda bad if VikingNo2 got the same shirt again. :D

red -> update on players list (2/16/2003 6:26:53 AM)
Player List: ------------ red (aka The Matrix):USSR/Germany AngryDeemon1 (aka Matrix Insurgent): USSR/USA rbrunsman (Matrix Veteran) Rokondo (Matrix Veteran):USA/Germany sandman20 (aka Private): USA/Germany Capt. Pixel (Matrix Veteran) CPT Shoe (Matrix Recruit):Germany/US M4 Jess (aka Matrix Kat Killer) Brutto-Bob (Matrix Trooper) RobW (Matrix Trooper) mlomax (Matrix Trooper) 3/2 ACR (aka KAT KILLER):US/USMC Gary Tatro (Matrix Veteran) dodger (Matrix Trooper):Germany/Finland Shiner (Matrix Recruit):USSR/Germany Buzzard45 (Matrix Recruit): UK/Germany VikingNo2 (Matrix Hero) WC'02: USA/Germany BlueLavender (Matrix Recruit) Hades (aka Captain of Gondor):USSR/Finland Ironfist (Matrix Recruit) Scharfschütze (Matrix Veteran) Belisarius (Matrix Sturmtrooper): Germany/Finland Jim Lindquist (Matrix Recruit) Stonefire (Matrix Recruit) Mogami (aka Free Roaming Vapor) ThomasBELL123 (Matrix Recruit): Germany/US willy (Matrix Veteran):Germany/UK-Canada do those of you who have announced their countries want to wait on the others to do so or do you want to kick it off?

Hades -> (2/16/2003 6:28:46 AM)
lets kick it

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