RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder

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HansBolter -> RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder (8/21/2014 8:51:39 PM)
Wasn't meant to address the specific event but to make the case for the fact that certain unrealities have to be accepted in a turn base, impulse based game.

Mundy -> RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder (8/21/2014 9:50:25 PM)
13 January 1942 Landing at Buna, along with other little DEI areas. Nobody's on Java yet. Borneo's close to being wrapped up. Bombing by air have ratcheted up a notch. Ships at and near Darwin, got hit badly by a division of KB. I'm suspecting CarDiv 2, since the numbers seemed a little low to be any of the bigger carriers. A CV TF is sitting 6 hexes NNE of Darwin, supposedly with four CVs, but I'm figuring two. A 50 Betty raid also hit Moresby. Somewhat lackluster with 15 runway hits along with a few base and supply hits. I'm not sure if they came out of Rabaul or not. I got a depth charge hit on "I-21" near San Fran, despite being on the dead list. Might be I-27. Three tank regiments kicked me out of Ansi. I don't know how strapped they are for supplies that far north. 3 squadrons of rats and one of I-15s are stuck at Hami. China makes my brain bleed... My starving carriers got replenished and are enroute to Sydney. Most of the TF is 20+ sys and 4+ eng. My 2nd division is almost ready with YORK between Suva and Noumea. LEX is waiting for her at Brisbane. Ed-

Mundy -> RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder (8/22/2014 7:48:33 PM)
14 January 1942 Beaufort, Buna and Sorong fall. Koepang is hit with a cruiser bombardment. I'm guessing their time is limited. His carriers are arrogantly sitting 3 hexes north of Darwin. Hudson's and Wirraways made runs on Zuikaku and Hiryu. I'm not sure if there's two divisions or if he's just mixing them. The P-40 squadron there did better against the raid against the ships there than the two sweeps. No kills on either sweep for 5 losses. One 40 and one Zeke down on the strike. A-24s at PM made two runs on the transports at Buna, to no effect. I don't know if there's a move imminent to Port Moresby or not. Judging from what he's been invading the area with, I don't think he can right now. I've about two carriers ready which can deal with that, if necessary, even with the other two in the yard. Ed-

Mundy -> RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder (8/23/2014 3:26:21 PM)
15 January 1942 The Japanese have started landings on Koepang. I'm getting the Hudson squadron out. They did make attacks, but cared more about the CL than the transports. Troops have entered Rangoon. My guys are out, headed to Mandalay via Prome. I have troops/engineers unloading at Port Moresby. They're getting harassed by Betties. This is probably my last regular transport there until I can arrange protection. I have P-40 squadrons at Townsville, but they're still repairing from the rail trip from Brisbane. They've been escorted, so I'll need at least two squadrons. I have a number of APDs being converted, and I'll get them to Townsville as soon as I can manage. Once there, Aussie commandos will start making "visits" to various weakly guarded areas. I'm all for ramping up the skamboogery front. I'll set the islands ablaze. Ed-

Mundy -> RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder (8/23/2014 5:08:42 PM)
16 January 1942. Koepang falls, as does Rangoon. The KB division port raids Darwin. Lots of the little stuff is wrecked. My floating drydock only takes one hit, so I hope this is about it. I don't know how many sorties he'll have left. The IJN land based bombers don't seem up to snuff lately. 4 raids of 25+ Betties, net a total of two torpedo hits on my xAPs. I think all the troops are ashore, so time to get them out. So far, he's just been doing the usual Japanese takeovers. I don't know if hell launch a major drive elsewhere at this point. Except for Adak, not a peep anywhere in the east. I have 338 APs on Moresby right now, consisting of roughly two divisions of Oz/Dutch troops. One full Oz division (8th) is there. The 8th is seriously understrength, but has real squads and not militia. My tentative long range plans at this point will focus on the Marshalls. I'll keep enough in the Solomons to stop any real expansion. I've got Marines unloading at Suva and Noumea, with airpower. Between these two and Moresby, he'll need to send something seriously big to take any of them. Probably six units of artillery at Suva alone, not counting a defense battalion. Ed-

Mundy -> RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder (8/23/2014 7:12:49 PM)
17 January 1942 Drove him out of Prome with my Rangoon refugees. All the base forces are continuing on to Mandalay, while the fighting troops pursue. quote: Ground combat at Bandjermasin (60,99) Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 612 troops, 3 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 22 Defending force 1238 troops, 4 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 35 Assaulting units: 2nd Sasebo SNLF Coy Defending units: SE Borneo KNIL Battalion Bandjermasin Base Force -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Lang Son (70,56) Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 2099 troops, 6 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 194 Defending force 15415 troops, 82 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 297 Assaulting units: 4th Ind.Mixed Regiment 1sh Militia Regiment Defending units: 31st Chinese Corps 52nd Chinese Corps -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Prome (55,50) Allied Deliberate attack Attacking force 6501 troops, 82 guns, 10 vehicles, Assault Value = 378 Defending force 1668 troops, 16 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 62 Allied adjusted assault: 126 Japanese adjusted defense: 50 Allied assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 0) Allied forces CAPTURE Prome !!! Combat modifiers Defender: preparation(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 629 casualties reported Squads: 18 destroyed, 27 disabled Non Combat: 13 destroyed, 5 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Units retreated 2 Allied ground losses: 273 casualties reported Squads: 8 destroyed, 12 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Guns lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled) Defeated Japanese Units Retreating! Assaulting units: 4th Burma Rifles Battalion 16th Indian Brigade Railway BAF Battalion 1st Gloucestershire Battalion 1st Burma Division Rangoon BAF Battalion 48th Gurkha Brigade 108th RAF Base Force 107th RAF Base Force 103rd RN Base Force 221 Group RAF 100th RAF Base Force Defending units: Yokosuka 1st SNLF Yokosuka 3rd SNLF Had an air sweep come over Colombo. Yamashiro and Fuso visit Trincomalee. At the end of a turn, the really fast RN DM appeared there. I dropped mines and scooted at full to Colombo. quote: Night Naval bombardment of Trincomalee at 31,47 - Coastal Guns Fire Back! 2 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese Ships BB Yamashiro BB Fuso Allied ground losses: 95 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled E8N2 Dave acting as spotter for BB Yamashiro BB Yamashiro firing at Trincomalee Fortress Trincomalee Fortress firing at BB Yamashiro BB Fuso firing at Trincomalee Fortress Trincomalee Fortress firing at BB Fuso What looks like part of mini-KB is just to the SE of Ceylon. I'm sortieing Hermes against my better judgment. At this point, I'd rather she go down fighting than get clobbered in port. You never know. She's under a fairly heavy escort of CA/CL and DDs. I've moved some Hudsons from Karachi that I forgot about to Colombo, and they're on search. The Wildebeests at Trincomalee are kicked out of training class and armed with torps. Indomitable's on the way, but just departed Aden last turn. One BB just left there also. Ed-

Mundy -> RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder (8/23/2014 11:42:44 PM)
18 January 1942 It turns out, the raid on Trincomalee wasn't a raid. There's troops ashore now. About a corps worth of infantry plus extras. The Hermes group ran into his air TF. quote: Night Time Surface Combat, near Koggala at 28,51, Range 23,000 Yards Japanese Ships CV Kaga CV Akagi CVL Ryujo BB Kongo BB Haruna CA Chikuma DD Yugumo DD Arashio DD Asagumo DD Ariake DD Tadeshiwa Allied Ships CVL Hermes CA Cornwall CA Exeter CL Hobart CL Enterprise CL Danae CL Mauritius DD Nestor DD Napier DD Nizam DD Tenedos DD Electra No shots traded and both sides ran. If I had a pure surface TF, I might have messed him up. This was the follow up: quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Koggala at 28,50, Range 2,000 Yards Japanese Ships CA Takao CA Myoko CA Haguro, Shell hits 3 CA Ashigara, Shell hits 2 CL Isuzu CL Abukuma DD Arashi, Shell hits 1 DD Hagikaze DD Asashio DD Michishio Allied Ships CVL Hermes, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 1 CA Cornwall, Shell hits 11, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage CA Exeter, Shell hits 3, on fire CL Hobart CL Enterprise, Shell hits 1 CL Danae, Shell hits 1 CL Mauritius, Shell hits 5 DD Nestor DD Napier DD Nizam, Shell hits 1, on fire DD Tenedos DD Electra Hermes wasn't hit too bad. A week in the yard will fix her -- if I have a week. This throws my whole Burma alignment in India all off kilter. A squadron of Hudsons are now in Madras, set to naval attack. The fortress in Trincomalee dealt out a commendable amount of hits, messing up transports and destroyers alike, but not enough on the troops. quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pre-Invasion action off Trincomalee (31,47) - Coastal Guns Fire Back! 123 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese Ships CL Kashii, Shell hits 8, heavy fires xAP Kamakura Maru, Shell hits 8, heavy fires, heavy damage TB Kasasagi xAP Miike Maru, Shell hits 3, on fire TB Otori AK Kyushu Maru Japanese ground losses: 107 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 11 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled CL Kashii firing at Trincomalee Fortress Trincomalee Fortress firing at CL Kashii 6" Mk V/VII Gun Battery engaging xAP Kamakura Maru at 6,000 yards CL Kashii firing to suppress enemy battery at 6,000 yards 6" Mk V/VII Gun Battery engaging xAP Miike Maru at 6,000 yards CL Kashii firing to suppress enemy battery at 6,000 yards 6" Mk V/VII Gun Battery engaging xAP Kamakura Maru at 6,000 yards TB Kasasagi firing to suppress enemy battery at 6,000 yards TB Kasasagi fired at enemy guns TB Otori fired at enemy guns Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 5,000 yards Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 1,000 yards -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Amphibious Assault at Trincomalee (31,47) TF 14 troops unloading over beach at Trincomalee, 31,47 Japanese ground losses: 156 casualties reported Squads: 13 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 6 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled) 17 troops of a IJA Inf Squad accidentally lost during unload of 5th Div /1 17 troops of a IJA Inf Squad lost overboard during unload of 5th Div /3 17 troops of a IJA Inf Squad lost in surf during unload of 5th Div /3 17 troops of a IJA Inf Squad lost overboard during unload of 5th Div /3 17 troops of a IJA Inf Squad lost in surf during unload of 5th Div 17 troops of a IJA Inf Squad lost in surf during unload of 5th Div Motorized Support damaged beyond repair during unload of 5th Div 17 troops of a IJA Inf Squad lost in surf during unload of 5th Div /5 17 troops of a IJA Engineer Squad lost from landing craft during unload of 5th Div /5 17 troops of a IJA Inf Squad lost overboard during unload of 5th Div /5 15 Support troops lost from landing craft during unload of 5th Div /5 15 Support troops accidentally lost during unload of 5th Div /5 15 Engineers lost from landing craft during unload of 5th Div /6 17 troops of a IJA Inf Squad lost from landing craft during unload of 5th Div /6 17 troops of a IJA Inf Squad lost overboard during unload of 5th Div /6 17 troops of a IJA Inf Squad lost in surf during unload of 5th Div /6 15 Support troops lost in surf during unload of 5th Div /6 15 Support troops lost in surf during unload of 5th Div /6 15 Support troops lost overboard during unload of 5th Div /6 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pre-Invasion action off Trincomalee (31,47) 71 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese Ships TB Hayabusa TB Hato AMC Nosiro Maru Japanese ground losses: 45 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled TB Hayabusa fired at enemy guns Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 4,000 yards Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 1,000 yards -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Amphibious Assault at Trincomalee (31,47) TF 201 troops unloading over beach at Trincomalee, 31,47 Japanese ground losses: 126 casualties reported Squads: 11 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled) Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled) 12 troops of a IJA HMG Section lost overboard during unload of 18th Div /1 17 troops of a IJA Inf Squad lost in surf during unload of 18th Div 37mm Type 01 AT Gun damaged beyond repair during unload of 18th Div 17 troops of a IJA Inf Squad lost overboard during unload of 18th Div 17 troops of a IJA Inf Squad accidentally lost during unload of 18th Div /3 17 troops of a IJA Inf Squad lost overboard during unload of 18th Div /3 17 troops of a IJA Inf Squad lost from landing craft during unload of 18th Div /4 17 troops of a IJA Inf Squad accidentally lost during unload of 18th Div /4 Motorized Support lost overboard during unload of 18th Div /4 17 troops of a IJA Inf Squad lost in surf during unload of 18th Div /5 17 troops of a IJA Inf Squad lost in surf during unload of 18th Div /5 15 Support troops accidentally lost during unload of 18th Div /5 15 Support troops accidentally lost during unload of 18th Div /5 15 Support troops accidentally lost during unload of 18th Div /5 17 troops of a IJA Engineer Squad lost from landing craft during unload of 18th Div /6 15 Support troops lost overboard during unload of 18th Div /6 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pre-Invasion action off Trincomalee (31,47) - Coastal Guns Fire Back! 167 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese Ships DD Usugumo, Shell hits 2 xAP Asama Maru, Shell hits 3 DD Shirakumo TB Kari xAP Hakozaki Maru Japanese ground losses: 45 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Allied ground losses: 10 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled DD Usugumo firing at Trincomalee Fortress Trincomalee Fortress firing at DD Usugumo 6" Mk V/VII Gun Battery engaging xAP Asama Maru at 11,000 yards TB Kari firing to suppress enemy battery at 11,000 yards DD Usugumo fired at enemy troops Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 4,000 yards Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 1,000 yards -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Amphibious Assault at Trincomalee (31,47) TF 210 troops unloading over beach at Trincomalee, 31,47 Japanese ground losses: 152 casualties reported Squads: 13 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled) 17 troops of a IJA Engineer Squad lost in surf during unload of 4th Div 12 troops of a IJA HMG Section accidentally lost during unload of 4th Div /2 17 troops of a IJA Engineer Squad accidentally lost during unload of 4th Div /2 70mm T92 Bn Gun lost in surf during unload of 4th Div /3 17 troops of a IJA Inf Squad lost from landing craft during unload of 4th Div /3 17 troops of a IJA Inf Squad lost overboard during unload of 4th Div /4 17 troops of a IJA Inf Squad lost in surf during unload of 4th Div /4 17 troops of a IJA Inf Squad accidentally lost during unload of 4th Div /4 15 Support troops lost from landing craft during unload of 4th Div /4 17 troops of a IJA Inf Squad lost overboard during unload of 4th Div /5 17 troops of a IJA Inf Squad lost from landing craft during unload of 4th Div /5 17 troops of a IJA Inf Squad lost overboard during unload of 4th Div /5 17 troops of a IJA Inf Squad lost overboard during unload of 4th Div /6 17 troops of a IJA Inf Squad lost overboard during unload of 4th Div /6 15 Support troops lost overboard during unload of 4th Div /6 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pre-Invasion action off Trincomalee (31,47) - Coastal Guns Fire Back! 159 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese Ships DD Uruyuke, Shell hits 2 xAK Hokuroku Maru, Shell hits 10, heavy fires, heavy damage DD Tatsuyuke xAP Huzi Maru Japanese ground losses: 19 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 12 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Trincomalee Fortress firing at DD Uruyuke DD Uruyuke firing at Trincomalee Fortress 6" Mk V/VII Gun Battery engaging xAK Hokuroku Maru at 8,000 yards DD Tatsuyuke firing to suppress enemy battery at 8,000 yards 6" Mk V/VII Gun Battery engaging xAK Hokuroku Maru at 8,000 yards DD Tatsuyuke firing to suppress enemy battery at 8,000 yards 6" Mk V/VII Gun Battery engaging xAK Hokuroku Maru at 8,000 yards DD Tatsuyuke firing to suppress enemy battery at 8,000 yards DD Uruyuke fired at enemy troops Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 6,000 yards Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 1,000 yards -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Amphibious Assault at Trincomalee (31,47) TF 254 troops unloading over beach at Trincomalee, 31,47 Japanese ground losses: Vehicles lost 4 (4 destroyed, 0 disabled) 15 Support troops lost overboard during unload of 25th Army /1 Motorized Support lost overboard during unload of 25th Army /1 15 Support troops accidentally lost during unload of 25th Army /1 Motorized Support lost overboard during unload of Southern Army 15 Support troops lost from landing craft during unload of Southern Army 15 Support troops lost from landing craft during unload of Southern Army 15 Support troops lost in surf during unload of Southern Army 15 Support troops lost in surf during unload of Southern Army /2 15 Support troops lost overboard during unload of Southern Army /2 Motorized Support lost from landing craft during unload of Southern Army /3 15 Support troops lost from landing craft during unload of Southern Army /3 Motorized Support lost in surf during unload of Southern Army /3 15 Support troops lost from landing craft during unload of 25th Army Motorized Support damaged beyond repair during unload of 25th Army -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pre-Invasion action off Trincomalee (31,47) - Coastal Guns Fire Back! 124 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese Ships DD Amagiri xAK Yamakaze Maru, Shell hits 1 DD Sagiri xAK Tatuharu Maru AMC Saigon Maru DD Amagiri firing at Trincomalee Fortress Trincomalee Fortress firing at DD Amagiri 6" Mk V/VII Gun Battery engaging xAK Yamakaze Maru at 11,000 yards DD Sagiri firing to suppress enemy battery at 11,000 yards 6" Mk V/VII Gun Battery engaging xAK Tatuharu Maru at 11,000 yards DD Sagiri firing to suppress enemy battery at 11,000 yards 6" Mk V/VII Gun Battery engaging xAK Yamakaze Maru at 11,000 yards DD Sagiri firing to suppress enemy battery at 11,000 yards DD Amagiri fired at enemy guns Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 4,000 yards Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 1,000 yards -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Amphibious Assault at Trincomalee (31,47) TF 288 troops unloading over beach at Trincomalee, 31,47 Japanese ground losses: 13 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled) Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled) 20 troops of a IJA Const Labor Sq lost overboard during unload of 15th Ind Engr Rgt 17 troops of a IJA Cmbt Eng Sqd 41 lost in surf during unload of 23rd Ind Engr Rgt 15cm T96 Howitzer lost from landing craft during unload of 3rd Medium FA Rgt Motorized Support lost from landing craft during unload of 1st Tank Rgt Ground combat at Trincomalee (31,47) Allied Bombardment attack Attacking force 8566 troops, 71 guns, 45 vehicles, Assault Value = 96 Defending force 46460 troops, 421 guns, 393 vehicles, Assault Value = 1412 Allied ground losses: 35 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Assaulting units: Trincomalee Fortress 99th Indian Brigade Defending units: 18th Div /2 4th Ind Engineer Regiment 15th Ind Engineer Regiment 23rd Ind Engineer Regiment 5th Div /4 1st Tank Regiment 4th Div /1 3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment 18th Medium Field Artillery Regiment Southern Army /1 25th Army 3rd Ind. Mtn Gun Rgt /2 Ed-

Mundy -> RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder (8/24/2014 2:07:15 PM)
19 January 1942 Trincomalee falls. Landings at Kalidjati on Java. So it starts there... The carriers appear to have left the Darwin area. Nothing left but broken and burning ships. I hope I can still run subs from there. I have a partial squadron of USAAF P-40 in Moresby. His harassment Betties haven't been escorted, so maybe I can surprise him. Not a lot of hope, as their experience is in the 20s. My aircraft in Townsville far exceeds my support there, which is slowing down the P-40 repairs. I'm still scrounging around for base units to send there. My combatants at Colombo got smacked before auto-dispersing. I'll probably have to pull them out soon. Ed-

Mundy -> RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder (8/24/2014 11:49:21 PM)
22 January 1942 The Battle of Ceylon is not going well for the Royal Navy. Indomitable and Hermes both go down while attempting to cover the refugees from Colombo. He's already got Netties at Trincomalee, since they got the former. His carriers are pursuing up to Mangalore now, and that's how Hermes got it. I figured she was free. I had some surface forces mixed in, and they dealt some blows. quote: AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jan 21, 42 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Trivandrum at 25,43, Range 2,000 Yards Japanese Ships CA Takao CA Myoko CA Haguro, Shell hits 4 CA Ashigara, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, on fire CL Isuzu, Shell hits 1, on fire CL Abukuma, Shell hits 2, on fire DD Arashi DD Hagikaze DD Asashio DD Michishio, Shell hits 1 Allied Ships CL Enterprise, Shell hits 2 CL Glasgow, Shell hits 2, on fire CL Capetown, Shell hits 1 DD Vampire, Shell hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage DD Nestor DD Napier DD Tenedos DD Electra Low visibility due to Thunderstorms with 17% moonlight Maximum visibility in Thunderstorms and 17% moonlight: 2,000 yards Range closes to 21,000 yards. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Cochin at 26,41, Range 2,000 Yards Japanese Ships BB Haruna DD Asagumo DD Ariake Allied Ships CL Enterprise, on fire CL Glasgow, Shell hits 6, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires CL Capetown, Shell hits 7 DD Vampire, heavy fires, heavy damage DD Nestor DD Napier DD Tenedos DD Electra Low visibility due to Thunderstorms with 17% moonlight Bombay is now my primary RN base. Royal Sovereign is only a few days away, so I'll see what I can scrounge together. Aden's chugging out quite a bit of LCU and air reinforcements, and I'm shipping them to Karachi as fast as possible. Some of the Oz units are pretty strong, so I'll use them as a fire brigade if he hits the mainland. At this point I still don't know if this is a prelude to a bigger op, or if he's just tidying up the edges of things. The whole thing feels like it's oriented to the west. No real activity eastwards. I got a little careless with LEX and YORK and had them west of Milne Bay. I've always thought of that line as the "safe" border, but some Nells put two torps into YORK. Damage was actually rather light. They're retreating to Suva. A 20,000 ton ARD is about a week away plus there's an AR already there, so I think that should do the job. Regardless of when repairs are done all around, I'll keep them quiet until everyone's upgraded to F4Fs. The USMC Dauntless which was on one of the carriers is at Brisbane so I have some quality dive bombers if something comes raiding. By "quality", I mean at least 50 exp. SS Trusty is enroute to watch the straits west of Malaya. Argonaut's been busy with the mines. She's currently enroute for the shallow hex just SW of Kobe. She's already visited Wake and Kwajalein. I'll do whatever I can to turn this into "Mines in the Pacific". He's been reconning Dutch Harbor with Mavises from Adak. I have some USN PBYs that are eventually destined for Attu. I'll start making use of these little spots, since failing to do this before caught me flat footed here. Of course, I wasn't exactly rolling in search planes to start with. Ditto with recon. He's been able to sneak behind me in Burma. My boys there are slowly making their way north with occasional fights on the way. I have a Chinese corps just over the border I'd like to buy out. I'm also moving Chinese troops to Lang Son. Maybe I change the tone in China a bit if I bust that front open. In the AI game I had before, I wound up taking all of Indochina and Thailand. Cannon's not the AI, though, so I can't expect that success. If he has to put troops in, that's stuff he can't use elsewhere. He's been reconning Dutch Harbor with Mavises at Adak. Colorado and Warspite are on the way for a little visit, since they're now out of the yard. From there, it's off the Pearl and probably Suva after that. I've got a good conveyor belt rolling right now from the states. I just need more troopships -- that's where my bottleneck is. I have about 4 PBY squadrons in the Suva/Noumea area now, with one of them at Pago Pago. Ed-

Sangeli -> RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder (8/25/2014 2:43:44 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mundy Indomitable and Hermes both go down while attempting to cover the refugees from Colombo. He's already got Netties at Trincomalee, since they got the former. RN can't stand up to the KB; best to send them fleeing. Don't both covering the retreat...every man for himself. quote: ORIGINAL: Mundy I've always thought of that line as the "safe" border, but some Nells put two torps into YORK. Damage was actually rather light. They're retreating to Suva. A 20,000 ton ARD is about a week away plus there's an AR already there, so I think that should do the job. Suva is not safe for long term repairs this early and even "light" damage on a ship that size takes a while to fix. Sydney can repair the Yorktown but you gotta be VERY careful with this. However, with the KB in the IO right now and likely going to be there for a while you can probably be OK with this. quote: ORIGINAL: Mundy I'm also moving Chinese troops to Lang Son. Maybe I change the tone in China a bit if I bust that front open. If you do that you will generate new Japanese militia units from the Vietnam rule...probably a bad idea to give Japan extra units this way.

Mundy -> RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder (8/25/2014 3:02:57 AM)
Unfortunately, Sydney's busy fixing the other two CVs I ran out of fuel. If it looks like a long fix, they'll go to Pearl. I like keeping the CVs together, but I'm tempted to leave a presence in Pearl. From the AI game I had, the spawning units in Vietnam were pretty weak. Their main threat is taking cities I've bypassed. I have been playing in a rather ham-handed manner. No real disasters yet on the USN side, so I'm trying to stay careful. I can see the possibility of getting a 4 v 2 fight, if he keeps KB split. Ed-

Mundy -> RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder (8/25/2014 7:25:41 PM)
23 January 1942 The ARD, YFD-2 eats a couple torps 3 hexes SE of Suva. I didn't think I had to run the gauntlet for two more hexes. Flt is in the low 70s, so I have a feeling she won't make it. I chased the subs away from San Fran, but I'm having trouble at Fiji. At this point, it looks like 2 CVs will be going to Pearl. KB Div 1 is almost to Bombay, chasing shipping. Royal Sovereign will re-route either to Karachi or hang out by the northwest map edge -- probably the latter. Also is a landing at Attu. Apart from this, he's incessantly bombing the Rangoon fugitives and the slugfest in China is ongoing. Ed-

Mundy -> RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder (8/26/2014 1:45:52 PM)
My other issues... I've got the feeling that Tracker and Combat Reporter don't like 64 bit Java. I'm thinking of installing the 32 bit version to see if that helps. If anyone else has any suggestions, I'd be happy to hear them. As the allies, I don't lean on Tracker too hard for info. It's best use for me is letting me know when an LCU has reached it's destination, which is easy to miss -- especially in China, where you're sending the ants everywhere. Knowing where resources and fuel are accumulating is fairly no-brainer as the Allies. No production to worry about either. Playing Japan is another matter. I do admire all you IJN players, as I feel like a leaf in a hurricane when I try. I rely on Reporter pretty heavily, as it recaps things very nicely. I find it helpful with intel reports, too. I've been tempted with Intel Monkey. I've been hesitant to sully my hard drive with a Python installation. That's probably a bit unfair. Back at my old IT job, we were pretty much a VB based group. Then one guy who was on the team a short while, decided to take a shortcut on a job by writing an app in Python, which, of course, fell into my lap after he left. I didn't know Python, and couldn't support it at all, and I was trying to replace it with a proper app before I got laid off. I hope they're choking on it now... Too bad Bodhi doesn't have an AE version of his app. I never used it myself, but read stories of guys magically tracking invasion convoys, solely by lack of radio discipline. The IJN seems to use their radio equipment to talk to their girlfriends back home. [:D] Ed-

witpqs -> RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder (8/26/2014 4:06:42 PM)
1) I don't use combat reporter and don't know anything about what it needs. 2) Tracker requires 32-bit Java 6. That's covered on the Tracker web site, in spite of which there are a zillion of the same question and answers in the Tracker thread. I've posted instructions there on the easiest way to get both Java 7 and Java 6 on your system for that. If you can't find them shoot me a PM. I understand that now Java 8 is out or partly out but the process should be the same. BTW make sure you are using the same DLL as for AE, for example if you are using the Beta then copy over that very same DLL. 3) Installing Python on your system will not affect anything else. Those guys have done a wonderful job - it is very clean! You will find yourself using Tracker a lot more as time goes on even as Allies. The other alerts are quite worthwhile, plus LCUs sorted by planning objective, looking up airplanes, how fast bases are building, absolutely invaluable for the information required for managing devices including replacements and upgrades, and on and on. I'm partial to Intel Monkey, too! [:D]

Mundy -> RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder (8/26/2014 4:18:41 PM)
Thanks, that helps. I've never been a Java guy, so I've been pretty clueless on the versions and such. For me, Tracker and Reporter seem to run very similarly. What I've done to fix one in the past generally works for the other. I'll get Python. I just won't code anything in it. [:D] Reporter is pretty nice. It sums up all the ops and combat reports from the daily text files, and when you click on something in the list, it will zoom to that map location. It helps me catch things I may miss on the replay -- especially mine victims. I'm thankful our forum has all this extra talent making these neat things. Ed-

Sangeli -> RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder (8/26/2014 5:26:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mundy I've been tempted with Intel Monkey. I've been hesitant to sully my hard drive with a Python installation. That's probably a bit unfair. Back at my old IT job, we were pretty much a VB based group. Then one guy who was on the team a short while, decided to take a shortcut on a job by writing an app in Python, which, of course, fell into my lap after he left. I didn't know Python, and couldn't support it at all, and I was trying to replace it with a proper app before I got laid off. I hope there choking on it now... Heh. I use Python all the time at work for scripting and thought about making my own tracker app. Decided it wasn't worth it cause of the other ones out there. Instead I'm trying something far more ambitious and useful; a pilot automation program. It's going slow and there are certainly are issues in trying to get this working on multiple machines. For example, I just got a new laptop with 3200x1600 resolution and now a bunch of my old methods no longer work b/c of issues with the Windows API with that resolution; it thinks I'm running at 1600x900 for some reason. But Python is a fun language to work with and it's pretty ideal for rapid prototyping by a single person (which is why it is so useful to me at work). However, when your code starts getting more and more complex you start wanting things like explicit casting, protected attributes, etc, that are missing from Python. Right now my code is near 1,000 lines long and it's difficult to keep track of all the methods I have and how they work. I probably should document it better. Looking at the source code of Intel Monkey I see witpqs is much better at that than I am... But what I don't understand is why you need Python to run Intel Monkey. There's a module called Pyinstaller that allows you to turn python programs into executables. That's what I was eventually planning to do at least.

witpqs -> RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder (8/26/2014 5:32:44 PM)
quote: But what I don't understand is why you need Python to run Intel Monkey. There's a module called Pyinstaller that allows you to turn python programs into executables. That's what I was eventually planning to do at least. I just haven't gone there yet. Py2exe is only for pre-version 3. cx_freeze is current. Those take a Python based app and bundle it into an executable that get's run as is. Is that what Pyinstaller does?

Sangeli -> RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder (8/26/2014 5:49:55 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: witpqs quote: But what I don't understand is why you need Python to run Intel Monkey. There's a module called Pyinstaller that allows you to turn python programs into executables. That's what I was eventually planning to do at least. I just haven't gone there yet. Py2exe is only for pre-version 3. cx_freeze is current. Those take a Python based app and bundle it into an executable that get's run as is. Is that what Pyinstaller does? Oh ya that's why I use Python 2.7 instead of 3.x. Not enough modules for Python 3.x yet. I've never used Pyinstaller before but according to the documentation that's what it does. It turns all relevant code into a single executable file.

Mundy -> RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder (8/26/2014 5:53:01 PM)
An executable was also my question about Intel Monkey. Heck, even MS Access used to let you make stand alone executables. I don't think that's the case anymore. We used Access as a front end for our apps. The database itself lived in Informix. It was rather handy, with all the forms and reports easily made in one spot. Ed-

Mundy -> RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder (8/26/2014 11:59:53 PM)
Finally... suck-sess! No, not my grand strategy. I finally got Tracker and Combat Reporter. I had to install v6 32 bit Java. After some fidgeting, I would up doing a fresh install on both apps. Tracker worked right away, but Reporter was still fussy. I followed the advice and in Java's bin folder created a server folder and copied the contents from the client folder to that one. Problem solved. I'm having trouble with Intel Monkey, but posed the question on witpqs' thread. I feel like the blinders are off, now that I have these again. 25 January 1942 Despite our time zone difference, we've been cranking 2 turns a day out. He's probably been up late getting the second one out, so I hope he's not pushing himself too hard. I'm usually home by 1400, which helps for him. The benefits of going in to work early. He's landed at Tarakan last turn. The shore defenses are messing up one of his xAKs pretty good, but the overall effect is almost nil. Apart from that, apart from China, it's been mostly quiet. Calicut's been getting hit repeatedly in the port, since my damaged fleeing CL/DDs from Colombo ran to hide there. They're all pretty messed up after two turns of this. It looks like KB Div 1 is heading back south. I've been getting lots of Hurricane squadrons arriving at Aden, which will help. This all takes time, since I have to ship them, move them by rail to a base and wait for re-assembly. I also have to find suitable bases down near the tip of the country with enough support. I've been sending a USAAF bomb group, I think the 3rd, to Cape Town, but it will be over a month before they're in-theatre and ready. Oz troops at Aden are also shipping across and moving south. I haven't followed enough AARs to know what the prime landing spots in India are after Ceylon, so I'm trying to be careful. The Aussie troops will be the pointy edge of any real defense. Ed-

witpqs -> RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder (8/27/2014 12:07:31 AM)
quote: I'm having trouble with Intel Monkey, but posed the question on witpqs' thread. Answered: quote: Your game switches (in the shortcut that you use to start the game) must include -archive. That switch makes the game save a copy of each turn's report files to the archive folder underneath the save folder. In other words, if you are not saving the reports in that fashion every turn, then Intel Monkey has nothing to work with.

Mundy -> RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder (8/27/2014 7:11:44 PM)
A slow day at work today, so I started reading the Gorn's wyrmmy AAR. People kept wondering why I was snickering. 27 January 1942 Got the Monkey working. It just wanted to live in the Tools folder. It's nice being able to sort. Supposedly the 57th Division is prepping to hit Brisbane. I'll have to make sure there's a reception if he does. Looking at past messages, I probably could have had a few days warning of the Trincomalee invasion. I'll have to pay more attention to this. The Brisbane thing may be a deception, but I don't know of Cannon would pull a crude subterfuge like that -- especially if it would be easily missed in the first place. His Betties at Rabaul hit a transport group at Horn Is in Torres Strait. I've never seen them hit that far before. I've been pulling the forces off of there and sending them to Moresby. Between PM, Cairns and Darwin, I can keep good enough tabs on that area. I'm going to keep Terapo on the list of bases to develop when practicable. He's landing at Hollandia this turn. I think the entire IJAAF is in China-Burma right now. I'm literally losing hundreds of Chinese troops each turn. I have Rats and 1-15s trapped in the far north due to his taking Hami with his rampaging armored units. Noumea's port and airfield are up to 3 now. I'm building away there and at Suva. I would like to develop Pago as a backstop, but can't spare the resources right now. The north is well covered, so I should have warning of anything approaching. I don't think I mentioned, by my big ARD sunk two hexes from Suva. That hurts. Another sub is off San Fran taking a missing shot at an xAK. I was resting the patrols, but I'll be sending them back out. Colorado and Warspite are 7 hexes from Adak. I'm going to give them the good news. Odds are he knows they're coming. Hopefully, I can catch a bunch of patrol planes. I'm guessing they'll hit the turn after next. More goodies coming in from Aden. I need more transports over there, it seems. Ed-

Sangeli -> RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder (8/27/2014 8:01:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mundy Noumea's port and airfield are up to 3 now. I'm building away there and at Suva. I would like to develop Pago as a backstop, but can't spare the resources right now. It is too early to build up the base in a place like Noumea. The base is too easily suppressed via naval bombardment and your planes are too weak to put the airbase to good use this early. Rather, you're doing Japan a favor by building up bases it is likely to take. I've made that mistake before of gifting the Japanese base construction this way before. quote: ORIGINAL: Mundy Colorado and Warspite are 7 hexes from Adak. I'm going to give them the good news. Odds are he knows they're coming. Hopefully, I can catch a bunch of patrol planes. I'm guessing they'll hit the turn after next. What makes you think he knows they are coming? Unless he has an air HQ he can't arm patrol planes with torps. I'd be more concerned about Japanese subs.

Mundy -> RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder (8/27/2014 9:08:44 PM)
He's been very quiet to the east, so I'm hopeful he's focused the other way right now. I have 4 overlapping PBY squadrons from Noumea to Pago Pago all watching north, so I should have warning if he tries something. If so, I can pull my two carriers off the blocks in Sydney if need be. He's had Mavises patrolling East from Adak since he took it. I think two BBs are probably hard for him to miss. Maybe I'll get lucky and find he's solely running them from an anchored AV there which gets blasted. I'm not worried about torps. I think he took these two bases on the cheap, so I don't expect any real resistance. I've been moving stuff to Dutch Harbor, so if he has ambitions that way, it will be a harder nut to crack. Ed-

Mundy -> RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder (8/27/2014 9:54:19 PM)
28 January 1942 Thanks for the curse, Sangeli. Warspite just ate two torps. Fortunately, she's only at 13 flt, so we'll continue on. This turn there's a landing at Amchitka Is. I'm rerouting the battlewagons SW and will not send them to Amchitka from the south. It will take at least two days to get there, but maybe I can catch the transports. Failing that, they'll eat 14" shells on the beach. Another pest showed up next to San Francisco and put a torp into Aylwin. Her companion got a direct depth charge hit, but no telling what the damage was. Cannonfodder also took Dobo, which is inconveniencing. That might wind up being an Aussie amphibious practice mission at some point. Within the next week, I'll have 4 BBs out of the West Coast yards with their upgrades. I'll start them at Pearl and probably send a couple to Suva. I'm toying with basing another two out of Juneau. I'd have to round up some cruisers and destroyers to accompany them if I do. I'll take a day to think on it. I don't like the sub presence right now. Speaking of subs... I have heavy patrolling around Japan proper. all my subs are doing 3-4 hex long triangle patrols, so they're overlapping and covering a goodly amount of water. I've had almost no encounters over the last three weeks. In all my prior games, I was encountering something at least twice a day. I suspect he's running fewer big convoys instead of a constant stream of ships. It's still a good gauntlet to run. Maybe he hasn't been exporting lately. All three divisions of KB are now vanished. I'm suspecting they may rendezvous for some yard time before the next mission. Hopefully they'll go to Japan. [sm=00000619.gif] Ed- [image]local://upfiles/6942/7CCADDD5D215487DB65B0AEC45EDB3BA.jpg[/image]

Sangeli -> RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder (8/28/2014 8:04:33 AM)
I've always like keeping my subs closer than mainland Japan. As you say hard to find convoys out there. I've found it easier to find ships near the front lines and in the DEI. But everybody has their own preference.

Mundy -> RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder (8/28/2014 11:57:51 AM)
I guess it depends on the opponent. Against other opponents, I was averaging 2-3 encounters near the Home Islands per day. I've got 6-8 subs running out of Dutch Harbor now. My long term goal is to use Midway for the fleet boats. S boats are running out of Brisbane, Darwin and Suva. With them, of course, they aren't going too far. I've had them in all the various little passes in the DEI, but I'll probably detach a couple to the Torres Strait. Not that I'm getting new P-40 units in Australia, I've been disbanding some of the survivors from the Philippines. Their experience has been in the 20 - 30s range, which is getting them slaughtered. At this point, anyone in the 50s, for me, is a hard bitten ace. It'll fill up the pools for the better squadrons. Cannon had actually suggested it to me, and it's something I hadn't considered. Usually at this point in the war, I'm desperate for any fighter presence in Oz. I'm getting more planes in Brisbane and Townsville right now than I can support. A bunch of APs are due to reach San Fran in the next few days. Priorities right now are getting base forces out. A USMC Raider battalion is enroute to SF, and I'll probably get that out too. I have 4-6 four-pipers in San Fran converting to APDs, and I'll be moving them to the front as soon as possible. I plan to use Raiders and Oz commandos to probe his farther flung holdings. Ed-

rook749 -> RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder (8/28/2014 4:51:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mundy Thanks, that helps. I've never been a Java guy, so I've been pretty clueless on the versions and such. For me, Tracker and Reporter seem to run very similarly. What I've done to fix one in the past generally works for the other. I'll get Python. I just won't code anything in it. [:D] Reporter is pretty nice. It sums up all the ops and combat reports from the daily text files, and when you click on something in the list, it will zoom to that map location. It helps me catch things I may miss on the replay -- especially mine victims. I'm thankful our forum has all this extra talent making these neat things. Ed- The more I learn about reporter, tracker and Intel Monkey the more I can't play with out then. One of the things you need to keep tabs on with Tracker every couple of months is when his airframes arrive. If you keep track you can see what planes his is accelerating. You can't counter it but you can at least make plans for it before the arrive early and in force.

Mundy -> RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder (8/28/2014 5:04:05 PM)
Monkey, I find, is nice because of the ways you can sort things. Sorting by "target" lets you find possible enemy destinations rather nicely. That feature perked me up that he had a division training for Brisbane. I do know that it's a common subterfuge to mess with an opponent that way. I don't know if the Japanese ever get any kind of detailed intercepts that way, so I haven't been inclined to retaliate. Usually they get helpful things like "Pearl Harbor is transmitting radio signals". I'm looking forward to February, when my own a/c production ramps up a little. Ed-

Sangeli -> RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder (8/28/2014 6:30:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mundy I have 4-6 four-pipers in San Fran converting to APDs, and I'll be moving them to the front as soon as possible. I plan to use Raiders and Oz commandos to probe his farther flung holdings. A little aggressive aren't we? Probably too early to start probing defenses. And bringing in a raider unit to an unoccupied dot hex isn't going to do much good either at this point. Rather, I would suggest keeping your Raiders right now in local reserve ready to board APDs (or even already on board). When Japan bears down on your defenses it's going to be very difficult to get in transport ships where you need reinforcements; that's probably the best usage of the Raiders this early. I like your aggressive attitude but don't lose sight of the fact this is a long war and it's only January 1942. quote: ORIGINAL: Mundy I'm getting more planes in Brisbane and Townsville right now than I can support. Yea that happens. I like bringing those big USA BFs with 200 support to OZ to assist here. They are too big to be useful in CentPac atolls due to stacking but all that support can come in hand in OZ with the large numbers of LCUs there. Australia does not have enough native aviation support so bring some in! That being said, I believe you get a couple of 75 aviation support units next month which will help.

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