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WarHunter -> Yet to be coded Options (9/28/2014 3:18:30 PM)
If optional rules that have not yet been coded were to be voted on. This is the order my vote would follow. Feel free to post your list to give some idea how the options line up. 1. USSR-Japan compulsory peace 2. Atomic Weapons 3. V-Weapons 4. Kamikazes 5. Frogmen 6. Flying Bombs 7. Naval Supply units 8. Guard Banner Armies 9. Isolated reorganization limits 10. Naval Offensive Chit 11. Oil Tankers 12. Convoy's in Flames 13. Rough Seas 14. Recruitment Limits 15. City based Volunteers 16.The Ukraine 17. Hitler's War 18. Bounce Combat 19. Limited aircraft interception 20. En-route aircraft interception 21. Partisan HQ's 22. Surprised ZOC's 23. Japanese command conflict 24. Intelligence warspite1 inspired thread. [:'(]

Courtenay -> RE: Yet to be coded Options (9/28/2014 3:52:06 PM)
I would add a non-optional rule that is not yet coded to the top of the list: 0. Additional Neutrality Pacts (i.e. Russia-Japan) After that, here is my list: 1. Naval Supply units 2. Bounce Combat 3. En-route aircraft interception 4. USSR-Japan compulsory peace 5. Kamikazes 6. Atomic Weapons 7. Frogmen 8. V-Weapons 9. Flying Bombs 10. City based Volunteers 11. Partisan HQ's 12. Guard Banner Armies 13. Limited aircraft interception 14. Isolated reorganization limits 15. Rough Seas 16. Oil Tankers 17. Convoy's in Flames 18. The Ukraine 19. Naval Offensive Chit 20. Japanese command conflict 21. Recruitment Limits 22. Surprised ZOC's 23. Hitler's War 24. Intelligence 5 through 12 are all very close. So are 13 to 18 and 19 to 23. Intelligence earns its position at the bottom, as it would be a nightmare to code. I would be very surprised to see this one ever coded. Any effort spent on it would be far better spent on the AI.

warspite1 -> RE: Yet to be coded Options (9/30/2014 9:39:44 PM)
I know little to nothing about some of these so my voting is necessarily restricted: 1. USSR - Japan compulsory peace 2. Convoys in Flames 3. Naval supply units 4. Isolated reorganisation limits 5. Rough Seas 6. Frogmen 7. V-weapons 8. Kamikazes 9. Atomic weapons 10. Flying bombs 11. Oil Tankers 12. Naval Offensive Chit . . . . 24 Intelligence

Orm -> RE: Yet to be coded Options (9/30/2014 10:02:02 PM)
1) City based Volunteers 2) Frogmen 3) USSR-Japan compulsory peace 4) Convoy's in Flames 5) Isolated reorganization limits 6) Bounce Combat 7) Naval Supply units 8) Flying Bombs 9) Kamikazes 10) Atomic Weapons 11) V-Weapon 12) Oil Tankers 13) Recruitment Limits 14) Partisan HQ's 15) Guard Banner Armies 16) Rough Seas 17) Japanese command conflict 18) Intelligence 19) Hitler's War 20) Naval Offensive Chit 21) Limited aircraft interception 22) The Ukraine 23) En-route aircraft interception 24) Surprised ZOC's

paulderynck -> RE: Yet to be coded Options (9/30/2014 10:11:06 PM)
1) Bounce Combat 2) USSR-Japan compulsory peace 3) Guard Banner Armies 4) Isolated reorganization limits 5) Naval Supply units 6) Frogmen 7) Kamikazes 8) V-Weapon 9) Atomic Weapons 10) Naval Offensive Chit 11) Surprised ZOC's 12) City based Volunteers 13) The Ukraine I wouldn't even bother with the rest.

Zorachus99 -> RE: Yet to be coded Options (10/1/2014 3:25:14 AM)
Gotta hope 1. Isolated reorganization limits 2. Kamikazes 3. En-route aircraft interception 4. City based Volunteers 5. Guard Banner Armies 6. Partisan HQ's 7. Recruitment Limits 8. USSR-Japan compulsory peace 9. Frogmen 10. Naval Supply units 11. Japanese command conflict 12. Convoy's in Flames 13. Bounce Combat 14. Atomic Weapons 15. V-Weapons 16. Flying Bombs 17. Naval Offensive Chit 18. Rough Seas 19. Oil Tankers 20. The Ukraine

Centuur -> RE: Yet to be coded Options (10/1/2014 6:48:55 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Courtenay I would add a non-optional rule that is not yet coded to the top of the list: 0. Additional Neutrality Pacts (i.e. Russia-Japan) After that, here is my list: 1. Naval Supply units 2. Bounce Combat 3. En-route aircraft interception 4. USSR-Japan compulsory peace 5. Kamikazes 6. Atomic Weapons 7. Frogmen 8. V-Weapons 9. Flying Bombs 10. City based Volunteers 11. Partisan HQ's 12. Guard Banner Armies 13. Limited aircraft interception 14. Isolated reorganization limits 15. Rough Seas 16. Oil Tankers 17. Convoy's in Flames 18. The Ukraine 19. Naval Offensive Chit 20. Japanese command conflict 21. Recruitment Limits 22. Surprised ZOC's 23. Hitler's War 24. Intelligence 5 through 12 are all very close. So are 13 to 18 and 19 to 23. Intelligence earns its position at the bottom, as it would be a nightmare to code. I would be very surprised to see this one ever coded. Any effort spent on it would be far better spent on the AI. I almost agree with your list (including the 0 option, which I believe is very important for the game too, especially if it is agreed on by the USSR and Japan...). Therefore, you won't be amazed that I make a couple of changes in your list... I would only bounce USSR-Japanese compulsory peace to the top of the list and put Isolated reorganisation limits on the second place. All others I feel the same as you do.

CrusssDaddy -> RE: Yet to be coded Options (10/1/2014 7:07:01 PM)
This thread is like Titanic passengers clambering over the rails shouting out lists of what they'd like to see in their lifeboats: 1. warm blanket 2. flares 3. waterproof radio 4. cushioned seating 5. snack tray 6. ...

Orm -> RE: Yet to be coded Options (10/1/2014 7:16:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CrusssDaddy This thread is like Titanic passengers clambering over the rails shouting out lists of what they'd like to see in their lifeboats: 1. warm blanket 2. flares 3. waterproof radio 4. cushioned seating 5. snack tray 6. ... I would demand that every life boat is equipped with a solar powered lap top that has MWIF installed. [:D]

paulderynck -> RE: Yet to be coded Options (10/1/2014 7:24:23 PM)
1. rowers

warspite1 -> RE: Yet to be coded Options (10/1/2014 7:27:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CrusssDaddy This thread is like Titanic passengers clambering over the rails shouting out lists of what they'd like to see in their lifeboats: 1. warm blanket 2. flares 3. waterproof radio 4. cushioned seating 5. snack tray 6. ... warspite1 That's a wishlist? How boring and dull. Well in my lifeboat I'd like... 1. Haley [image]local://upfiles/28156/FD47AB1B9D7347C88D90454C68A3C99B.jpg[/image]

paulderynck -> RE: Yet to be coded Options (10/1/2014 7:32:54 PM)
Yes, some good books to pass the time. No way of knowing how long before the Carpathia shows up.

Centuur -> RE: Yet to be coded Options (10/2/2014 6:23:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: warspite1 quote: ORIGINAL: CrusssDaddy This thread is like Titanic passengers clambering over the rails shouting out lists of what they'd like to see in their lifeboats: 1. warm blanket 2. flares 3. waterproof radio 4. cushioned seating 5. snack tray 6. ... warspite1 That's a wishlist? How boring and dull. Well in my lifeboat I'd like... 1. Haley [image]local://upfiles/28156/FD47AB1B9D7347C88D90454C68A3C99B.jpg[/image] Hey, that isn't Mrs. Warspite! I wonder how she thinks about this.... [:D]

peskpesk -> RE: Yet to be coded Options (10/2/2014 6:47:28 PM)
1) Frogmen 2) USSR-Japan compulsory peace 3) Bounce Combat 4) Convoy's in Flames 5) Japanese command conflict 6) City based Voluters 7) Isolated reorganization limits 8) Flying Bombs 9) Kamikazes 10) Atomic Weapons 11) V-Weapon 12) Oil Tankers 13) Recruitment Limits 14) Guard Banner Armies 15) Partisan HQ's 16) Rough Seas 17) Naval Supply units 18) Intelligence 19) Hitler's War 20) Naval Offensive Chit 21) Limited aircraft interception 22) The Ukraine 23) En-route aircraft interception 24) Surprised ZOC's

AxelNL -> RE: Yet to be coded Options (10/2/2014 6:50:19 PM)
Back to the subject: 1. USSR-Japan compulsory peace 2. Isolated reorganization limits 3. City based Volunteers 4. Surprised ZOC's 5. Guard Banner Armies 6. V-Weapons/Flying Bombs/Atomic Weapons 7. En-route aircraft interception 8. The Ukraine the rest I am not particularly interested in, I'm afraid, neither Cruss's and others wet dreams [8\|]

Orm -> RE: Yet to be coded Options (10/2/2014 7:06:07 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AxelNL Back to the subject: 1. USSR-Japan compulsory peace 2. Isolated reorganization limits 3. City based Volunteers 4. Surprised ZOC's 5. Guard Banner Armies 6. V-Weapons/Flying Bombs/Atomic Weapons 7. En-route aircraft interception 8. The Ukraine the rest I am not particularly interested in, I'm afraid, neither Cruss's and others wet dreams [8\|] Surprised ZOC's a priority and no Frogmen and no Naval Supply units. [X(] I am stunned over here. [;)] [:)]

warspite1 -> RE: Yet to be coded Options (10/2/2014 7:58:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Centuur quote: ORIGINAL: warspite1 quote: ORIGINAL: CrusssDaddy This thread is like Titanic passengers clambering over the rails shouting out lists of what they'd like to see in their lifeboats: 1. warm blanket 2. flares 3. waterproof radio 4. cushioned seating 5. snack tray 6. ... warspite1 That's a wishlist? How boring and dull. Well in my lifeboat I'd like... 1. Haley [image]local://upfiles/28156/FD47AB1B9D7347C88D90454C68A3C99B.jpg[/image] Hey, that isn't Mrs. Warspite! I wonder how she thinks about this.... [:D] warspite1 Correct - this is. And she's cool about it, she fancies Haley too [;)] [image]local://upfiles/28156/D043CE7630E041DB8F2C1E65A1D63BFC.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: Yet to be coded Options (10/2/2014 7:59:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AxelNL Back to the subject: 1. USSR-Japan compulsory peace 2. Isolated reorganization limits 3. City based Volunteers 4. Surprised ZOC's 5. Guard Banner Armies 6. V-Weapons/Flying Bombs/Atomic Weapons 7. En-route aircraft interception 8. The Ukraine the rest I am not particularly interested in, I'm afraid, neither Cruss's and others wet dreams [8\|] warspite1 It wasn't a wet dream - just a bit of fun in response to crussdaddy's nonsense [8\|] [sm=nono.gif]

AxelNL -> RE: Yet to be coded Options (10/2/2014 9:30:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: warspite1 quote: ORIGINAL: AxelNL Back to the subject: 1. USSR-Japan compulsory peace 2. Isolated reorganization limits 3. City based Volunteers 4. Surprised ZOC's 5. Guard Banner Armies 6. V-Weapons/Flying Bombs/Atomic Weapons 7. En-route aircraft interception 8. The Ukraine the rest I am not particularly interested in, I'm afraid, neither Cruss's and others wet dreams [8\|] warspite1 It wasn't a wet dream - just a bit of fun in response to crussdaddy's nonsense [8\|] [sm=nono.gif] [;)] I tried the same, but I should have know it would be impossible to throw Cruss and others in one boat...[:)]

AxelNL -> RE: Yet to be coded Options (10/2/2014 9:32:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Orm quote: ORIGINAL: AxelNL Back to the subject: 1. USSR-Japan compulsory peace 2. Isolated reorganization limits 3. City based Volunteers 4. Surprised ZOC's 5. Guard Banner Armies 6. V-Weapons/Flying Bombs/Atomic Weapons 7. En-route aircraft interception 8. The Ukraine the rest I am not particularly interested in, I'm afraid, neither Cruss's and others wet dreams [8\|] Surprised ZOC's a priority and no Frogmen and no Naval Supply units. [X(] I am stunned over here. [;)] [:)] Yep - really interested in that effect, and I am less a naval pro than you, I'm afraid...

warspite1 -> RE: Yet to be coded Options (10/2/2014 9:40:40 PM)
Well I hope no one pays any attention to these lists - otherwise Convoys In Flames isn't going to get done [:(]

AlbertN -> RE: Yet to be coded Options (10/2/2014 10:59:47 PM)
I'd start with the City Volounteers - which imo is mostly done as those units are similar to Militias except they're freebies for the first time. And next with the Interception on the Path - that ... well ... I deem it quite relevant to not have to scatter across Germany a ton of fighters just because the strat bombers of the Allies "teleport" through them. To go step by step is quite necessary here so a long list is nothign I've made yet.

brian brian -> RE: Yet to be coded Options (10/3/2014 6:53:25 PM)
Number Zero: 100% User Control over convoy routes. Just don't let the user complete the phase until Trade Agreements are met and enforce the rule that way. Number Zero.Five: A move-the-counters mode where we can use the beautiful maps and enforce the rules ourselves. This could have been done ten years ago and would have launched early sales and put money in Matrix and ADG pockets rather than see players use CyberBoard and Vassal all these years. Isolated reorganization limits USSR-Japan compulsory peace (critical to true multi-player WWII, including creating custom Non-Aggression Pacts) Guard Banner Armies (an important balance to the "Italian Luftwaffe" strategy that ADG refuses to address) En-route aircraft interception City based Volunteers Frogmen Naval Supply units Convoys in Flames PARTisan HQ Tankers Intelligence - would add a click through button to every die roll whenever someone had enough Intell to spend, and could be done. It can be an interesting part of the game, I like peeking at the Weather Roll by sending the U-Boat Weather Team off to Greenland. But the Rule-As-Written is too heavily pro-Allied and this would need to go into some adaptation of the new rules coming in WiF8, where Intell is too expensive for anyone to want to try it much The rest I don't care, though I would prefer raising the cost of Pilots to 3 BP over trying to add Bounce Combat to a play-over-the-net game.

paulderynck -> RE: Yet to be coded Options (10/3/2014 10:11:51 PM)
Intelligence - having to click through every freakin' die roll in a game of WiF (there are over 6000 in a typical Global War Campaign game, BTW) strikes me as extremely non-intelligent. I know, I know, skip it when one side doesn't have any I-points, etc... I have done some programming and that option strikes me as about the toughest one on the list to program so as to follow the optional rule correctly and not be a complete PITA. Besides I've never, ever played this game with intelligence! [;)]

jusi -> RE: Yet to be coded Options (10/6/2014 9:14:10 AM)
If it could be useful to someone to set priorities after having fixed the critical bugs... indispensable: 0. Non-agression Pacts 1. Isolated Reorganization 2. En-route aircraft interception important: 3. USSR-Japan Compulsory Peace 4. Convoy in Flames & oil tankers 5. Surprised ZOCs would be used: 6. Limited Aircraft Interception 7. Rough Seas 8. Recruitment Limits 9. City Based Volunteers 10. Naval Offensive Chit 11. Bounced Air Combat 12. Naval Supply Units 13. Japanese Command Conflict 14. Guards Banner Armies 15. Intelligence 16. Kamikazes, Flying Bombs, V-weapon, Atomic Bombs 17. Partisan HQs 18. The Ukraine 19. Frogmen Would remain probably unused: 20. Hitler's war

Omnius -> Much Ado About Nothing (10/6/2014 3:00:01 PM)
What are you voting on, MWiF option or pretty girls? I think this is rather immaterial as it looks like all of these options are going to be released with the new 3.0 version to go on sale in the yet-to-be-determined future. Then they'll all be released at the same time. Omnius

brian brian -> RE: Much Ado About Nothing (10/6/2014 5:19:54 PM)
I've never understood the why "Limited Aircraft Interception" rule was even written and I don't think it has any future in the game. World in Flames is not a hey-the-Jerries-are-coming-scramble-the-Spitfires tactical air combat game. Turns are two months long and a land "attack" is many days to a week of sustained combat. Fighter aircraft fly over the hexes in just a few hours.

Orm -> RE: Much Ado About Nothing (10/7/2014 3:18:15 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: brian brian I've never understood the why "Limited Aircraft Interception" rule was even written and I don't think it has any future in the game. World in Flames is not a hey-the-Jerries-are-coming-scramble-the-Spitfires tactical air combat game. Turns are two months long and a land "attack" is many days to a week of sustained combat. Fighter aircraft fly over the hexes in just a few hours. I think it was written because of those long range escort fighters. Even though a bombing mission is considered to be several missions over several days each individual mission does not last that long. The fighters flying hours before reaching the target hex would in reality be to late to intercept the bombing mission. I have no trouble with a rule that reduce the effectiveness of the Black Widow as a interceptor. Or other fighters intercepting from far away. I have yet to play with it because it seems to be a pain to play with when you play the board game. But with a computer handling it then it might be different.

AlbertN -> RE: Much Ado About Nothing (10/7/2014 8:22:33 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: brian brian I've never understood the why "Limited Aircraft Interception" rule was even written and I don't think it has any future in the game. World in Flames is not a hey-the-Jerries-are-coming-scramble-the-Spitfires tactical air combat game. Turns are two months long and a land "attack" is many days to a week of sustained combat. Fighter aircraft fly over the hexes in just a few hours. quote: I've never understood the why "Limited Aircraft Interception" rule was even written and I don't think it has any future in the game. World in Flames is not a hey-the-Jerries-are-coming-scramble-the-Spitfires tactical air combat game. Turns are two months long and a land "attack" is many days to a week of sustained combat. Fighter aircraft fly over the hexes in just a few hours. Well ... simply because bombers do not "teleport" on the target; the longer is the journey the more they were exposed to interceptions and AA even. On the other hand is quite absurd that ingame the bombers of the Allies (or the Germans if so) fly just through screens of fighter squadrons fielded upfront for that exact purpose. You do not see it having a future - to me it's a must instead.

joshuamnave -> RE: Yet to be coded Options (10/7/2014 12:34:58 PM)
In a FTF game I would always want to play with en route interception. But on the computer, I can't see any way to implement it that doesn't involve adding hundreds of mouse clicks, and that doesn't sound fun to me. I'd rather see an optional rule that allows fighters to intercept strat bombers using their full range.

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