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Bernie -> (3/19/2003 10:24:11 PM)
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Voriax
[B]Bernie, you forgot one word :) 'generally'
For me that means some tanks might have AP ammo. Although as the AP penetration of that 75mm gun is about the same as the 47mm, why carry any? Perhaps a small amount if there's ever need to engage two armoured targets simultaneously.
As for the accuracy..I like to think that weapon accuracy is a test bed accuracy...what a fixed gun can achieve with standard ammo. Aiming point stays the same and we'll observe the pattern of hits..how tight a grouping that combo can achieve.
That article says that the aiming method was surprisingly accurate due to the advanced steering mechanism that allowed very small movements. But still, this should be taken into account in the fire control and targetting values. If these are crappy then it doesn't matter how good a gun you have, if your only sighting aids are a bead on top of the barrel and mk1 eyeball.
These two cannon tanks are a bit of a problem as clearly there should be two different FC and Trg ratings but there's no way to put them in...
Just my opinions...
Voriax [/B][/QUOTE]
Not to get into semantics, but the way I read that sentence the [I]generally[/I] refers to where the rounds were stowed, not what rounds were carried. Regardless, other sources also point to only HE being carried for the 75mm. Indeed, the description of the tank in the game encyclopedia mentions the 75mm as only being used for "soft" targets. A Google search for info on the tank garners a few dozen hits, and on those pages where ammo loadout is listed the rounds for the 37mm or 47mm are broken down into HE & AP rounds, while the 75mm rounds are shown as only a single (undesignated) type. Now, I doubt they'd load only AP for that gun, so (IMHO) the rounds must be HE.
Yes, I did see where it said the gun was surprisingly accurate, but I'll disagree with you about what that means. Since we're talking about a gun system, and not just the barrel mounted in a benchrest for group measurement, the elevation and traverse factors of the arrangement have to be taken into consideration. Given that the vast majority of the data I've found indicates the gun was used only in a non-AT role "surprisingly accurate" can mean, "It could fire a shell to a decent range and hit close enough to inflict significant damage on troops" However, in an AT role, "surprisingly accurate" would have to mean it stood a very good chance of hitting a moving tank at a significant range, something I just can't see as being feasible with that kind of traverse arrangement.
The bottom line though is that the way the tank is now configured in the OOB, it can make easy kills on any moving German armor at ranges up to 19 hexes (just under 1000 meters) using AP rounds for the 75mm (in an Aug 1940 scenario I'm currently playing) That kind of ability just isn't historically accurate and I'd like to see it corrected.
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