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Triode -> RE: Naval and Defense News (4/29/2018 4:45:49 PM)

late series Su-30SM with R-77-1, Hmeymim
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KLAB -> RE: Naval and Defense News (4/29/2018 10:37:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Triode

late series Su-30SM with R-77-1, Hmeymim
[image]https://pp.userapi.com/c840323/v840323720/7c1d6/abaVkq89BTM.jpg[/image]

Finally a photo to prove it! Plus in line with the announcement made by TASS about the SU-30SM being fully Operational and accepted for service earlier in March.

http://www.airrecognition.com/index.php/archive-world-worldwide-news-air-force-aviation-aerospace-air-military-defence-industry/global-defense-security-news/global-news-2018/march/4133-su-30sm-fighter-jet-officially-accepted-into-vvs-service.html




Hongjian -> RE: Naval and Defense News (4/30/2018 5:39:27 AM)

KJ-500 AWACS, first time seen with IFR probe.

[image]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Db_YlOZV0AUCszq.jpg[/image]




User2 -> RE: Naval and Defense News (4/30/2018 7:06:15 AM)

Su-25 (SM?) with MSP-410 Omul ECM pods. Syria.

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Hongjian -> RE: Naval and Defense News (4/30/2018 4:07:46 PM)

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/30/business/china-trump-trade-talks.html

quote:

China Prepares a Hard-Line Stance on Trump’s Trade Demands

BEIJING — China will refuse to discuss President Trump’s two toughest trade demands when American negotiators arrive in Beijing this week, people involved in Chinese policymaking say, potentially forcing Washington to escalate the dispute or back down.

The Chinese government is publicly calling for flexibility on both sides. But senior Beijing officials do not plan to discuss the Trump administration’s two biggest demands: a mandatory $100 billion cut in America’s $375 billion annual trade deficit with China and curbs on Beijing’s $300 billion plan to bankroll the country’s industrial upgrade into advanced technologies such as artificial intelligence, semiconductors, electric cars and commercial aircraft.

The reason: Beijing feels its economy has become big enough and resilient enough to stand up to the United States.



China is not giving up "Made in China 2025", the industrial policy which aims to make China into a second Japan and Germany in terms of technology. And seeing how a Plaza Accord styled economic suppression attempt wont work a second time against a rising competitor, the future of Sino-US relationship might increasingly shift towards full spectrum confrontation. Forget SCS and North Korea etc. THIS is the actual reason for a Great Power war. MIC2025, if implemented, will make China a true nightmare to the West.





Hongjian -> RE: Naval and Defense News (4/30/2018 5:14:37 PM)

Clear piture of the JD-15 (or J-17) Electronic Shark carrier EW plane.

[image]https://i.imgur.com/GPwijtD.jpg[/image]




Dysta -> RE: Naval and Defense News (4/30/2018 6:12:04 PM)

Denuclearization won't save North Korea, because US always want war:

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/u-warns-north-korea-must-irreversible-steps-denuclearise-020106544.html

quote:

"I would never use the word honourable to describe Kim Jong Un."


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Meanwhile, a war imminancy after this announcement. Israel don't trust IAEA at all:

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/pm-expected-to-reveal-how-iran-cheated-world-on-nuke-program-1.6045300




SunlitZelkova -> RE: Naval and Defense News (4/30/2018 8:00:40 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Dysta

Denuclearization won't save North Korea, because US always want war:

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/u-warns-north-korea-must-irreversible-steps-denuclearise-020106544.html

quote:

"I would never use the word honourable to describe Kim Jong Un."


Depending on how things go, it could be a Libya situation- give up your WMDs, and then 20 years later or so we will bomb you.




VIF2NE -> RE: Naval and Defense News (5/1/2018 11:35:04 AM)

I think that they will bomb much earlier. Only who was before, Korea or Iran? But they will bomb anyway.




kevinkins -> RE: Naval and Defense News (5/1/2018 12:51:03 PM)

Assets Used In The Trilateral Missile Strikes On Syria:

http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/20509/this-awesome-chart-shows-all-the-assets-used-in-the-trilateral-missile-strikes-on-syria

I started a thread in the The War Room for any discussion. Excellent article to show how these all too common strike packages are put together.




kevinkins -> RE: Naval and Defense News (5/1/2018 12:57:58 PM)

Raytheon announced that it had finished the work necessary to integrate its AGM-154 Joint Stand-Off Weapon glide bomb, or JSOW, into the internal weapons bays on the U.S. Navy’s F-35C Joint Strike Fighter.

http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/20446/jassm-is-grabbing-headlines-but-the-navys-own-stealthy-weapon-is-set-to-get-way-more-capable




tjhkkr -> RE: Naval and Defense News (5/1/2018 3:57:37 PM)

Here is a nice juicy target for someone to blow the SNOT out of:

ST. PETERSBURG, Russia -- A floating nuclear power plant built in Russia has embarked on its first sea voyage so its reactors can be loaded with fuel. The floating plant, the Akademik Lomonosov, was towed on Saturday out of the St. Petersburg shipyard where it was constructed. It is to be pulled through the Baltic Sea and around the northern tip of Norway to Murmansk in northwest Russia, where the nuclear reactors are to be fueled.
The Lomonosov is to be put into service in 2019 in the Arctic off the coast of Chukotka in the far east, providing power for a port town and for oil rigs.
The project has been widely criticized by environmentalists. Greenpeace has dubbed it a "floating Chernobyl."

The Akademik Lomonosov leaves St. Petersburg on April 28, 2018.
NICOLAI GONTAR/GREENPEACE VIA REUTERS


After a period of time in Murmansk, the power plant will be towed to a small Arctic town called Pevek, according to German broadcaster Deutsche Welle. The floating nuclear power plant, called the Akademik Lomonosov, doesn't have any of its own propulsion hardware, so being slowly towed to its destination is a necessity. The company that built the plant, state-owned Rosatom Corporation, said in a press release that the second stage of the journey, from Murmansk to Pevek, will commence in 2019, with fuel and crew aboard the boat/power plant.

Once the plant reaches Pevek, it will be used to power the 100,000-person town, a desalination plant, and oil rigs. Rosatom says that the Lomonosov is intended to replace the region's Bilibino nuclear power plant, which provides 48MW of nuclear power and was built in 1974, as well as the Chaunskaya Thermal Power Plant, which is now 70 years old. Bilibino was once the northern-most nuclear power plant in the world, but after the Lomonosov is in operation, it will inherit that title.
The project has not been without the kinds of delays that nuclear projects seem to inevitably face: in 2015, the Norway-based website Barents Observer wrote that the Lomonsov would be put into service by October 2016.

FURTHER READING
Aboard the NS Savannah, America’s first (and last) nuclear merchant ship
Meanwhile, critics are concerned that a floating nuclear power plant is a situation ripe for disaster if the boat encounters extreme weather. In a statement, Greenpeace nuclear expert Jan Haverkamp cited concerns about the Lomonsov's flat-bottomed hull and its lack of self-propulsion despite the fact that it is intended to be anchored in relatively shallow water.

Rosatom's press release states that "All necessary construction works to create on-shore infrastructure are underway in Pevek. The pier, hydraulic engineering structures, and other buildings, crucial for the mooring of FPU [floating power unit] and operation of a FNPP [floating nuclear power plant] will be ready to use upon Akademik Lomonosov arrival."
A likely reason why Russia would want a floating power plant? The region in which it will be stationed is quite remote, and moving machinery out by land is far more expensive than moving it by sea. Deutsche Welle points out that climate change has made it easier for Russia to use northern sea routes for transportation between the country's west and east regions.
Correction: This story originally said that the Lomonsov was the world's first floating nuclear power plant but in fact the US military used a floating nuclear power plant on the Sturgis in Panama between 1968 and 1975.




KungPao -> RE: Naval and Defense News (5/1/2018 5:12:28 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Dysta

Denuclearization won't save North Korea, because US always want war:



Denuclearization may not save NK, but a cold war v2.0 between China and USA will. Just think about Tito, Ceauºescu and Saddam during cold war.




SunlitZelkova -> RE: Naval and Defense News (5/1/2018 11:18:44 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: tjhkkr

Here is a nice juicy target for someone to blow the SNOT out of:

ST. PETERSBURG, Russia -- A floating nuclear power plant built in Russia has embarked on its first sea voyage so its reactors can be loaded with fuel. The floating plant, the Akademik Lomonosov, was towed on Saturday out of the St. Petersburg shipyard where it was constructed. It is to be pulled through the Baltic Sea and around the northern tip of Norway to Murmansk in northwest Russia, where the nuclear reactors are to be fueled.
The Lomonosov is to be put into service in 2019 in the Arctic off the coast of Chukotka in the far east, providing power for a port town and for oil rigs.
The project has been widely criticized by environmentalists. Greenpeace has dubbed it a "floating Chernobyl."

The Akademik Lomonosov leaves St. Petersburg on April 28, 2018.
NICOLAI GONTAR/GREENPEACE VIA REUTERS


After a period of time in Murmansk, the power plant will be towed to a small Arctic town called Pevek, according to German broadcaster Deutsche Welle. The floating nuclear power plant, called the Akademik Lomonosov, doesn't have any of its own propulsion hardware, so being slowly towed to its destination is a necessity. The company that built the plant, state-owned Rosatom Corporation, said in a press release that the second stage of the journey, from Murmansk to Pevek, will commence in 2019, with fuel and crew aboard the boat/power plant.

Once the plant reaches Pevek, it will be used to power the 100,000-person town, a desalination plant, and oil rigs. Rosatom says that the Lomonosov is intended to replace the region's Bilibino nuclear power plant, which provides 48MW of nuclear power and was built in 1974, as well as the Chaunskaya Thermal Power Plant, which is now 70 years old. Bilibino was once the northern-most nuclear power plant in the world, but after the Lomonosov is in operation, it will inherit that title.
The project has not been without the kinds of delays that nuclear projects seem to inevitably face: in 2015, the Norway-based website Barents Observer wrote that the Lomonsov would be put into service by October 2016.

FURTHER READING
Aboard the NS Savannah, America’s first (and last) nuclear merchant ship
Meanwhile, critics are concerned that a floating nuclear power plant is a situation ripe for disaster if the boat encounters extreme weather. In a statement, Greenpeace nuclear expert Jan Haverkamp cited concerns about the Lomonsov's flat-bottomed hull and its lack of self-propulsion despite the fact that it is intended to be anchored in relatively shallow water.

Rosatom's press release states that "All necessary construction works to create on-shore infrastructure are underway in Pevek. The pier, hydraulic engineering structures, and other buildings, crucial for the mooring of FPU [floating power unit] and operation of a FNPP [floating nuclear power plant] will be ready to use upon Akademik Lomonosov arrival."
A likely reason why Russia would want a floating power plant? The region in which it will be stationed is quite remote, and moving machinery out by land is far more expensive than moving it by sea. Deutsche Welle points out that climate change has made it easier for Russia to use northern sea routes for transportation between the country's west and east regions.
Correction: This story originally said that the Lomonsov was the world's first floating nuclear power plant but in fact the US military used a floating nuclear power plant on the Sturgis in Panama between 1968 and 1975.



Nuclear powered submarines have been lost in accidents before, and yet the seas are relatively safe to swim in. I don't know the differences between the reactor on a submarine and civilian power plants, but would hypothetical contamination in a disaster be that bad?

Not to say that such accidents would be ok, but right now I don't see the cause for such panic.

quote:

ORIGINAL: KungPao


quote:

ORIGINAL: Dysta

Denuclearization won't save North Korea, because US always want war:



Denuclearization may not save NK, but a cold war v2.0 between China and USA will. Just think about Tito, Ceauºescu and Saddam during cold war.


Unless China returns to socialism, which is very unlikely for the rest of the 21st century, a full on Cold War style period of tension between China and the US is unlikely. There are too many ties between the two countries, and the consequences would be bad. China doesn't want conflict anyways, they themselves (the leadership, that is) know there is much to gain in friendly relations with the west.

Although, if war does break out on the peninsula, say, in the 2030s, considering China's military will be much more modernized by then and capable of taking on the US, it will be interesting to see if China defends the North or not.

Last reply to news though because I think it is off topic in this thread.




tjhkkr -> RE: Naval and Defense News (5/1/2018 11:34:32 PM)

FlyForLenin:
You ask a good question: I am thinking that since it would be an airborne contaminant as well as a seaborne one, it would be worse. And many storm fronts circulate air (particularly during winter) from the poles...
But you may be right... and I had not realized that there have been all that many nuclear submarines lost: I know the Mike or Papa was lost, and I think an American nuc as well. Were there others?




ExNusquam -> RE: Naval and Defense News (5/1/2018 11:52:34 PM)

Potential IAF strike in Syria two nights ago. No IADs response noted in the article.

http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/20531/new-syria-strikes-cause-earthquake-as-israel-drops-intelligence-bombshell-about-iran




kevinkins -> RE: Naval and Defense News (5/2/2018 3:19:45 AM)

and now lot's and lot's of speculation on how they pulled it off ...

http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/20573/lets-talk-about-this-rumor-that-israeli-f-15s-mimicked-us-jets-to-strike-at-iran-in-syria




Dysta -> RE: Naval and Defense News (5/2/2018 8:55:07 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: tjhkkr

FlyForLenin:
You ask a good question: I am thinking that since it would be an airborne contaminant as well as a seaborne one, it would be worse. And many storm fronts circulate air (particularly during winter) from the poles...
But you may be right... and I had not realized that there have been all that many nuclear submarines lost: I know the Mike or Papa was lost, and I think an American nuc as well. Were there others?

I am more inclined to say that China is also developing NPP ships in short future. Given by the SCS fiascoes amplified by nuke-scare (because of 'radioactivity pollutes water' contradict with frequent activities of CVNs and SSNs), it's also a very juicy traget.




SunlitZelkova -> RE: Naval and Defense News (5/3/2018 12:32:10 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: tjhkkr

FlyForLenin:
You ask a good question: I am thinking that since it would be an airborne contaminant as well as a seaborne one, it would be worse. And many storm fronts circulate air (particularly during winter) from the poles...
But you may be right... and I had not realized that there have been all that many nuclear submarines lost: I know the Mike or Papa was lost, and I think an American nuc as well. Were there others?


Wikipedia states a total of nine were lost, but apparently none of their reactors were damaged, or they are resting so deep that the contamination is not noticable on the surface.

Even for K-27 (Project 645) which was scuttled in waters with a depth of less than 3000 meters (the IAEA states that nuclear vessels should not be scuttled at a depth any higher than that) the radiation around it is apparently normal.

So actually, you may be right, as not only is the reactor sitting in shallow waters, but also, storms may carry radiation elsewhere, so the environmental damage would be disastrous.

At the very least, it will make quite a dramatic target in scenarios! [sm=00000622.gif]

In all seriousness though, I personally have faith in Russian power plant operators, so an accident caused by human error is unlikely in my opinion. I don't know whether there are weather events that could damage or destroy the reactor up there or not though.




Dysta -> RE: Naval and Defense News (5/3/2018 1:57:11 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: FlyForLenin

So actually, you may be right, as not only is the reactor sitting in shallow waters, but also, storms may carry radiation elsewhere, so the environmental damage would be disastrous.



I saw some websites about the rise of nuclear plant vessels, one particular specification for future nuclear energy on board are pressurized water reactors and molten-salt reactors, specially used for nuclear submarines/carriers, while latter is used by XB-36 aka the nuclear powered bomber, as it can be operated without traditional water boiling method.

As far as I know from Ars Technica, the Russian built NPVs are neither using PWR or MSR, so the emission concern is undoubtedly notable. Yet, it was a proposed design a decade ago consider Russia has yet to implement something safer with substantial power to the surface. China on the other hand has the ACP-100 proposal submitted to IAEA, it will be a more advanced NPV to be used for strength SCS control.

But whoever hears the word 'nuclear' would be easy to trigger Cold War and Chernobyl memories, especially for nearby countries seeing China/Russia deploying them at contested sea, it will not be a pleasant news for geopolitics.




Dysta -> RE: Naval and Defense News (5/3/2018 7:59:18 AM)

One of a 053HG has been decommissioned:

https://mobile.twitter.com/HenriKenhmann/status/991865708547006465




Triode -> RE: Naval and Defense News (5/3/2018 11:29:46 AM)

project 22800 "Shkval" , third hull with Pantsir-M
[image]https://ic.pics.livejournal.com/bmpd/38024980/5424517/5424517_original.jpg[/image]
[image]http://files.balancer.ru/cache/forums/attaches/2018/05/640x480/02-6229097-22800-shkval-ssz-pella-02.05.2018.jpg[/image]




tjhkkr -> RE: Naval and Defense News (5/3/2018 1:51:51 PM)

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-top-10-countries-that-bought-russias-most-powerful-weapons-in-2017/ss-AAwEGJP?li=BBnb7Kz#image=11

Some of this is alarmist...
But the last 4 or 5 slides are worthy of a read... India's purchase of an Akula is interesting... and the number of Kilos being purchased by Vietnam and Algeria is interesting.




Broncepulido -> RE: Naval and Defense News (5/3/2018 2:28:16 PM)

Mattis proposed revolution on surprise carrier battle groups deployments:
https://www.defensenews.com/naval/2018/05/02/is-secretary-of-defense-mattis-planning-radical-changes-to-how-the-navy-deploys/




Broncepulido -> RE: Naval and Defense News (5/3/2018 2:56:10 PM)

Comments on future carrier operations with drone tankers:
https://www.themaven.net/warriormaven/sea/navy-to-pick-first-ever-carrier-launched-drone-later-this-year-v3X6RkePYkuPMMd6lUvKOg





Gunner98 -> RE: Naval and Defense News (5/3/2018 7:01:45 PM)

quote:

So actually, you may be right, as not only is the reactor sitting in shallow waters, but also, storms may carry radiation elsewhere, so the environmental damage would be disastrous.


I think in comparing the floating reactors to SSNs etc it is worth noting that size matters. I'm really not sure on how the details impact potential problems but an SSN (Victor for instance: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor-class_submarine ) has a reactor that can produce 4,460Kw while the floating power plant will have two reactors putting out 70 Megawatts http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/20564/heres-what-we-know-about-russias-new-floating-nuclear-power-plant-heading-to-the-arctic, quite a difference.

I think the environmentalists have Fukushima in mind and the environmental sensitivity in the Arctic where it takes much longer for bad stuff to dissipate naturally. Although I agree that nuclear power is one of the cleanest and safest sources of energy - it is always a lightning rod for criticism.




Dysta -> RE: Naval and Defense News (5/4/2018 9:01:39 AM)

I strongly suggest to add laser dazzling feature to the game. Jammed Mk1 Eyeball can be an act of war, and potential death to pilots:

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/05/us-military-aircraft-have-been-hit-many-times-by-lasers-probably-by-china/

ADD: The comment section in this website escalate into wardrumming shoutouts, as single-sidedly support military action against China even some rational advices were told not to magnify such incident. Political or not, both ZH and Ars I usually read are infested with increasing sino-hatred. However if China is asked for trouble, then I think it is definitely scenario-worthy.




gosnold -> RE: Naval and Defense News (5/4/2018 1:01:03 PM)

It's not exactly fresh news anymore, but I have written an articleon UCAV drone projects, with a focus on the French-British FCAS. It has some nice CAD views from Dassault:
[image]https://therestlesstechnophile.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/jpiyrnp.jpg[/image]


I have also written a speculative post on the power plant of the Russian nuclear-powered cruise missile and torpedo.




kevinkins -> RE: Naval and Defense News (5/4/2018 1:35:48 PM)

US confirms laser by China

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/pentagon-confirms-chinese-fired-lasers-u-s-pilots/

"Marine Corps Gen. Thomas Waldhauser, commander of the U.S. Africa Command, warned in congressional testimony in March that China is seeking to expand and possibly take over the strategic port in Djibouti, which owes Beijing an estimated $1.2 billion in construction debt."




Dysta -> RE: Naval and Defense News (5/4/2018 1:38:23 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: kevinkin

US confirms laser by China

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/pentagon-confirms-chinese-fired-lasers-u-s-pilots/

"Marine Corps Gen. Thomas Waldhauser, commander of the U.S. Africa Command, warned in congressional testimony in March that China is seeking to expand and possibly take over the strategic port in Djibouti, which owes Beijing an estimated $1.2 billion in construction debt."

I posted Ars article about it. And now freebeacon. Lovely, it's a good day to fear China again.

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NATO civil war imminent:

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-04/turkish-cargo-vessel-rams-greek-warship-aegean-sea




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