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KLAB -> RE: Naval and Defense News (6/19/2020 8:03:09 PM)
https://rg.ru/2020/06/18/pancir-sm-s-novejshimi-mini-raketami-zamechen-na-repeticii-parada.html https://tass.com/defense/1169407 Image © Gavriil Grigorov/TASS Pantsir SM with a new missile configuration of an unidentified short range SAM apparently for UAV's. Down to 10 normal missiles but an additional 8 mini SAM,'s. Too few details for my inevitable DB3K request but interesting. K quote: ORIGINAL: Filitch quote: ORIGINAL: kevinkins The troubled pantsir s1 in the news again. Going to degrade its capabilities in a test to see if a drone can take it out. With normal settings it's effective in CMO. https://www.realcleardefense.com/articles/2020/06/19/libya_a_catastrophe_for_russias_pantsir_s1_air_defense_system_115394.html It's a rather one-sided article. There are 54 downed Turkay-made UAVs vs 6 or 9 destroyed Pantsirs. One Pantsir costs about $14 millons, and Bayraktar TB2 costs about $5 millions. As for me - Pantsirs won. This is only arithmetic. We will not remember about necessary of layered AD systems, right tactic, quality of personnel training and so on.

Blast33 -> RE: Naval and Defense News (6/22/2020 10:33:31 AM)
Nice surprise idea for you Iranian scenario: A 3rd of Khordad on a ship! It was a test fire but interestingly, one missile looks to be EO/IR guided and was launched! Will see more of in the future I think.. https://www.defenseworld.net/news/27255/Iran_Test_fires_Naval_Khordad_Air_Defense_System [image]local://upfiles/61749/A914FD4200BF4A429E05079FF76DFD1E.jpg[/image]

kevinkins -> RE: Naval and Defense News (6/22/2020 1:41:33 PM)
quote: It's a rather one-sided article. There are 54 downed Turkay-made UAVs vs 6 or 9 destroyed Pantsirs. One Pantsir costs about $14 millons, and Bayraktar TB2 costs about $5 millions. As for me - Pantsirs won. This is only arithmetic. We will not remember about necessary of layered AD systems, right tactic, quality of personnel training and so on. That's one way to look at it. Goodness knows what is happening in North Africa, but there are a couple of other factors. Accepting those kill numbers, that’s an exchange ratio of 2.14 in favor of the Pantsir in terms of money. But that does not include the dollar value of crew losses in human terms plus their valuable "training". An UAV is unmanned and designed to accept losses. It also does not factor in the loss of what the destroyed system was covering. Additionally, the Pantsir is on defense not offense. It is designed for area and self-defense. A 2.14 ratio should be a lot better on the defensive. Maybe those Panstirs were operated by ill trained crews. Maybe it's not the right system to the export to some countries. Given those numbers, the system in the hands of non-Russian crews can shoot down 6 UAVs before losing its life at a cost of 18 million. Kevin

Randomizer -> RE: Naval and Defense News (6/29/2020 6:38:23 PM)
For any Cold War aficionados here's a Soviet propaganda film on EXCERCISE OKEAN 70, incorrectly labelled as Operation Ocean by Periscope Films. It is narrated in Russian but with an English voice over courtesy of the Central Intelligence Agency: OPERATION OKEAN And here's an article on the same exercise by Norman Polmar over at the Naval Historical Foundation: Analyizing Exercise Okean -C

kevinkins -> RE: Naval and Defense News (6/30/2020 12:29:02 PM)
Well there you go ... you can always throw money at a problem: https://www.defensenews.com/congress/2020/06/29/us-could-buy-turkeys-russia-made-s-400-under-senate-proposal/?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=EBB%2006.30.20&utm_term=Editorial%20-%20Early%20Bird%20Brief Essay on anti-ship missiles and strategy: https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/how-useful-is-classical-maritime-strategy-in-an-age-of-long-range-anti-ship-missiles/

NorthernFox -> RE: Naval and Defense News (7/1/2020 7:24:34 AM)
https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news-detail/south-korea-to-develop-supersonic-asm-for-future-kf-x-fighter-aircraft some basic informations of south korea's supersonic ASM

redcoat -> RE: Naval and Defense News (7/1/2020 10:46:51 AM)
Australia's 2020 Defence Strategic Update and 2020 Force Structure Plan: https://www.defence.gov.au/StrategicUpdate-2020/

kevinkins -> RE: Naval and Defense News (7/2/2020 12:02:35 PM)
More on air defence and training vs drones and cruise missiles: https://www.realcleardefense.com/articles/2020/07/02/drone-era_warfare_shows_the_operational_limits_of_air_defense_systems_115430.html?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=EBB%2007.02.20&utm_term=Editorial%20-%20Early%20Bird%20Brief And on the other side of the equation: https://www.flightglobal.com/military-uavs/record-number-of-uav-shoot-downs-prompt-new-usaf-tactics-and-countermeasure-pod/138908.article

kevinkins -> RE: Naval and Defense News (7/9/2020 12:57:43 PM)
Not sure what to make of this novel, but some may want to look into it: https://www.armytimes.com/2020/07/08/twitter-novel-to-tell-story-of-atomic-army/?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=EBB%2007.09.20&utm_term=Editorial%20-%20Early%20Bird%20Brief

kevinkins -> RE: Naval and Defense News (7/11/2020 2:11:27 PM)
Wonder how bellicose this will be? https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-07-10/u-s-plans-south-china-sea-announcement-with-tensions-escalating

Doctorwarthog -> RE: Naval and Defense News (7/12/2020 7:41:14 PM)
USS Bonhomme Richard on fire. I hope ship and crew will be ok.

KnightHawk75 -> RE: Naval and Defense News (7/13/2020 3:23:37 AM)
quote: USS Bonhomme Richard on fire. I hope ship and crew will be ok. As for the crew - 17 in hospital but all in stable condition. Rear Adm Philip Sobeck: -Cleared compartments and have just found fire location/source -Lower cargo hold where the fire started Cooling hull with the tugs while interior fight goes on -Ship's crew involved in firefighting efforts -Class "A" fire: debris, etc. are fueling fire "Ash heap" fire, "nothing toxic" inside fueling fire -Explosion was from "overpressurization" of a compartment -1 millon gallons of fuel onboard, below area of heat source and not affected -No ordnance onboard All crew accounted for "She will sail again" -"ship will sail again"

redcoat -> RE: Naval and Defense News (7/14/2020 10:42:35 PM)
The Japanese Ministry of Defense has published its annual white paper: Defense of Japan 2020. https://www.mod.go.jp/e/publ/w_paper/index.html [image]https://i.pinimg.com/564x/e1/3b/17/e13b17c4034c5963b5ebd5e358b44961.jpg[/image]

kevinkins -> RE: Naval and Defense News (7/15/2020 3:15:21 PM)
https://news.trust.org/item/20200715122556-a24j0 Ships on fire now in Iran.

Broncepulido -> RE: Naval and Defense News (7/15/2020 4:58:40 PM)
Very interesting Russian Wikipedia entry on "Uspekh" targeting complex (1966 on), found casually when looking for Tu-95RTs Bear-D units and bases (You can use Google Translate). With details of operational procedures (Tu-95RTs operating in pairs, perhaps for triangulation) and great peacetime loses. Also down on the page links to other Soviet/Russian targeting and EW systems: https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9C%D0%A0%D0%A1%D0%A6-1_%C2%AB%D0%A3%D1%81%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%85%C2%BB

redcoat -> RE: Naval and Defense News (7/16/2020 11:35:50 AM)
The RAF is to trial the use of unmanned aircraft from the decks of the RN’s QE-class aircraft carriers. https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news-detail/raf-to-trial-unmanned-aircraft-from-royal-navy-carriers

kevinkins -> RE: Naval and Defense News (7/17/2020 2:11:57 PM)
Nice article on the debate re: US Army long range missiles taking on SAM sites. https://breakingdefense.com/2020/07/army-says-long-range-missiles-will-help-air-force-not-compete/

redcoat -> RE: Naval and Defense News (7/17/2020 3:52:52 PM)
Team Tempest have added a new interactive 3D model of the Tempest to the RAF website: https://www.raf.mod.uk/what-we-do/team-tempest/tempest/ There is also a 3D model of LANCA on the site: https://www.raf.mod.uk/what-we-do/team-tempest/lanca/ [image]https://i.pinimg.com/564x/22/8f/df/228fdf6c510e135813b6fd0d8584117b.jpg[/image]

kevinkins -> RE: Naval and Defense News (7/18/2020 12:47:44 PM)
Might be an important strategic step years from now. https://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/articles/2020/7/16/rare-earth-processing-plant-opens-in-colorado

anlgzl -> RE: Naval and Defense News (7/19/2020 8:25:53 AM)
Hi all, Do you have any plan to add UAV Aksungur for DB3K Thanks in advance https://www.tusas.com/uploads/2020/01/aksungur-unmanned-aerial-vehicle.PDF https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqsDiuYASOI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGJPqMieoX0

Broncepulido -> RE: Naval and Defense News (7/20/2020 4:46:54 PM)
Some news the last months on this issue. USS Roosevelt DDG-80 (Arleigh Burke Flight IIA) has replaced in Rota USS Carney DDG-64 (Flight I), and as the other BMD destroyers there deployed, has replaced her aft Phalanx mount with a SeaRAM missile mount (at least from March 2020), but not mentioned this time in any news report. But you can see here clearly the SeaRAM mount, Apparently is the first Flight IIA with a SeaRAM mount: https://news.usni.org/2020/03/23/uss-roosevelt-leaves-for-homeport-shift-to-spain https://www.navy.mil/view_imagex.asp?id=316851&t=1 Another three DDGs have or are scheduled to have SeaRAM installed besides the original Rota four. From the FY20 budget papers: “ Installations include the Rota DDG SeaRAM installs on DDGs 51,64,71,75,78,79,80 and 84” From here, in the comments: https://news.usni.org/2020/03/23/uss-roosevelt-leaves-for-homeport-shift-to-spain And also 5"/62 Mk45 Mod 4 replacing the previous 5"/54 gun (see the flat panels new turret).

Hongjian -> RE: Naval and Defense News (7/22/2020 12:06:20 AM)
Some major rumormongering (supported by reliable leakers and public RFP on China's military procurement sites) going around in the Chinese internet. Potentially, there is already a new follow on class to the Type 075 LHD planned: The Type 076, which interestingly is designed to become an EMALS equipped drone-carrier/CVL in addition to retaining its well-deck. A summary of all known information here: https://www.meta-defense.fr/en/2020/07/21/China-is-starting-the-construction-of-a-new-assault-aircraft-door/

kevinkins -> RE: Naval and Defense News (7/29/2020 4:20:29 PM)
I thought the sub guys would find this interesting: https://www.techexplorist.com/detailed-submarine-map-arctic-ocean/34098/

x2oop -> RE: Naval and Defense News (7/30/2020 7:56:36 PM)
Video from Iranian "Great Prophet" wargames: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlXExxOE6BE Probably the most interesting thing which they showed was launch of missiles which were buried under ground. https://twitter.com/Hajizadeh_org/status/1288398979592593408

kevinkins -> RE: Naval and Defense News (8/1/2020 2:48:07 PM)
Big news on the EX program. Seems to be really expanding: https://www.airforcemag.com/f-15ex-could-replace-strike-eagle-fleet-in-addition-to-older-c-d-models-usaf-says/ "Boeing posits a “rough order of magnitude” purchase of 200 airplanes, but the “most probable quantity” would be 144 fighters." If I recall, the numbers were around 12 last year. I guess that never really made sense.

x2oop -> RE: Naval and Defense News (8/8/2020 8:15:46 AM)
Iskander's ability to do some insane maneuvers captured on the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mK4jXZAMgxY&feature=youtu.be&t=177

kevinkins -> RE: Naval and Defense News (8/12/2020 12:18:46 PM)
And now the case against the EX https://www.defenseone.com/ideas/2020/08/nine-reasons-congress-should-nix-air-forces-f-15ex-purchase/167603/

kevinkins -> RE: Naval and Defense News (8/18/2020 12:25:46 PM)
Fairly long and detailed: https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2020/08/u-s-navys-zumwalt-class-destroyers-enter-the-2020s/

kevinkins -> RE: Naval and Defense News (8/19/2020 1:23:48 PM)
Command in the news today: https://breakingdefense.com/2020/08/darpa-wants-wargame-ai-to-never-fight-fair/?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=EBB%2008.19.20&utm_term=Editorial%20-%20Early%20Bird%20Brief Don't think is a reprint. But could be.

Sybaris -> RE: Naval and Defense News (8/21/2020 11:41:49 AM)
Chinese underground sub base photo https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/21/asia/china-submarine-underground-base-satellite-photo-intl-hnk-scli/index.html

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