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TheOttoman -> RE: Naval and Defense News (12/29/2017 2:29:31 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Dysta

Scenario opportunity:

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/chinese-ships-spotted-satellites-apos-152120180.html



I had seen that and thought the same. Are the sensors for the satellite platforms modeled in a way that it can identify a specific ship - meaning in game, can it distinguish a specific cargo container from a pool of a dozen cargo containers?




Dysta -> RE: Naval and Defense News (12/29/2017 8:11:20 PM)


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ORIGINAL: TheOttoman

I had seen that and thought the same. Are the sensors for the satellite platforms modeled in a way that it can identify a specific ship - meaning in game, can it distinguish a specific cargo container from a pool of a dozen cargo containers?


Yes, even for a plane as well, some commercial imaging satellites in 2010s has that capability.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQ-9zITGlr0

There's a downside however, normal visible spectrum imaging cannot penetrate cloud or smog, while SAR imaging is still classified for only governmental use.




TheOttoman -> RE: Naval and Defense News (12/29/2017 8:54:55 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Dysta


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ORIGINAL: TheOttoman

I had seen that and thought the same. Are the sensors for the satellite platforms modeled in a way that it can identify a specific ship - meaning in game, can it distinguish a specific cargo container from a pool of a dozen cargo containers?


Yes, even for a plane as well, some commercial imaging satellites in 2010s has that capability.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQ-9zITGlr0

There's a downside however, normal visible spectrum imaging cannot penetrate cloud or smog, while SAR imaging is still classified for only governmental use.

I'm specifically talking about in-game




Dysta -> RE: Naval and Defense News (12/29/2017 10:32:46 PM)


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ORIGINAL: TheOttoman

I'm specifically talking about in-game

Yes.





Dysta -> RE: Naval and Defense News (12/30/2017 12:54:11 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Dysta

Scenario opportunity:

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/chinese-ships-spotted-satellites-apos-152120180.html


Quoted myself. Another scenario opportunity:

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/exclusive-russian-tankers-fuelled-north-korea-via-transfers-211044546.html

I have two assumptions for this case:
1, Cannot let NK die in cold, but I doubt they use oil for warmth
2, A retaliatory response to US, whom withdrawn UN funding after the counteragreement against Jerusalem capitalization.




TheOttoman -> RE: Naval and Defense News (12/30/2017 1:03:21 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Dysta


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ORIGINAL: TheOttoman

I'm specifically talking about in-game

Yes.



Brilliant!! Thank you




Dysta -> RE: Naval and Defense News (1/1/2018 9:53:41 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Dysta

quote:

ORIGINAL: Dysta

Scenario opportunity:

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/chinese-ships-spotted-satellites-apos-152120180.html


Quoted myself. Another scenario opportunity:

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/exclusive-russian-tankers-fuelled-north-korea-via-transfers-211044546.html


The plot chickens, oil smuggling is getting more desperate. Is Panama a victim or a deceiver?

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/north-korea-sanctions-violating-oil-110406880.html




Hongjian -> RE: Naval and Defense News (1/1/2018 12:43:00 PM)

An official AVIC scale model of the Sharp Sword (Li Jian) UCAV was leaked. Precedence lead to PLA watchers rumoring that the production of this stealth attack drone is imminent, five years after the maiden flight of the prototype (which still used the RD-93 engines with unshielded nozzles and afterburner).

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The latest images of an AVIC scale model (December 2017) suggested that Sharp Sword to go into production has undergone some modifications including a shielded engine exaust, a chin-mounted IRST, conformal (phased array/EW?) antennas embedded in the leading edges of flying wing, two optimized internal bomb bays for GPS/Beidou guided glide bombs of different weights (100kg & 500kg). The UCAV may be powered by a new engine as well.


[image]https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-zGBOpGStwZA/WkbnFNcvXAI/AAAAAAAAXVY/gmwkrOTYvc8bnx8MP0Y1TNdRGAfOGzdXQCKgBGAs/s1600/SharpSword1.jpg[/image]
[image]https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Z27nyacadn4/WkbnqC2MSJI/AAAAAAAAXVg/hTbP-oLE_esxLyDJUAmyWA9PV63OeGipACPcBGAYYCw/s1600/SharpSword3.jpg[/image]

Heri K. wrote a piece dedicated to that topic: Despite his cautions to jump to conclusions, there are some precedence in the appearance of official AVIC scale models and the impeding production of various new projects.

http://www.eastpendulum.com/debut-de-lindustrialisation-drone-furtif-sharp-sword




Tailhook -> RE: Naval and Defense News (1/1/2018 5:50:53 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Dysta

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ORIGINAL: Dysta

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ORIGINAL: Dysta

Scenario opportunity:

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/chinese-ships-spotted-satellites-apos-152120180.html


Quoted myself. Another scenario opportunity:

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/exclusive-russian-tankers-fuelled-north-korea-via-transfers-211044546.html


The plot chickens, oil smuggling is getting more desperate. Is Panama a victim or a deceiver?

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/north-korea-sanctions-violating-oil-110406880.html

The vast majority of the world's merchant ships are flagged out of Panama for a number of financial and legal reasons. I sincerely doubt the government has any awareness, involvement, or culpability in this.




Dysta -> RE: Naval and Defense News (1/2/2018 6:39:24 AM)

Shots fired:

https://www.maritime-executive.com/article/sea-shepherd-drone-shot-down

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Fully autonomous robots for assembling ammunition is taking place in China, under increasing demands of domestic renewal and export:

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy-defence/article/2126365/why-chinas-ammunition-factories-are-being-turned-over




TheOttoman -> RE: Naval and Defense News (1/3/2018 2:37:54 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Dysta

Shots fired:

https://www.maritime-executive.com/article/sea-shepherd-drone-shot-down

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Fully autonomous robots for assembling ammunition is taking place in China, under increasing demands of domestic renewal and export:

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy-defence/article/2126365/why-chinas-ammunition-factories-are-being-turned-over


The Houthis snagged one of our underwater drones (REMUS 600) on Monday. The Iranians will no doubt field a copy by Spring.




Dysta -> RE: Naval and Defense News (1/3/2018 4:46:16 AM)

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ORIGINAL: TheOttoman

The Houthis snagged one of our underwater drones (REMUS 600) on Monday. The Iranians will no doubt field a copy by Spring.

http://defence-blog.com/news/houthi-navy-seized-autonomous-spy-underwater-vehicle.html

UUV snatching could be an interesting scenario, but we need more UUV in the database.




Hongjian -> RE: Naval and Defense News (1/3/2018 5:00:46 PM)

The Pterodactylus-II (Wing Loong II) UCAV has passed validation tests and seems to be mass-produced now. Customer still is unknown. Maybe it will serve the PLAAF even.

https://twitter.com/xinfengcao/status/948399348630503424/photo/1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=60&v=6FHfsqUf_cM




kevinkins -> RE: Naval and Defense News (1/4/2018 2:45:40 PM)

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-russia-planes/russia-denies-report-that-7-planes-destroyed-in-syria-attack-tass-idUSKBN1ET0VX

I would be surprised the report on seven planes is completely true. Yet, "The ministry said two Russian service personnel were killed in a mortar attack on the base by rebels, according to TASS." has to be embarrassing to Russia.




TheOttoman -> RE: Naval and Defense News (1/4/2018 9:15:22 PM)


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ORIGINAL: kevinkin

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-russia-planes/russia-denies-report-that-7-planes-destroyed-in-syria-attack-tass-idUSKBN1ET0VX

I would be surprised the report on seven planes is completely true. Yet, "The ministry said two Russian service personnel were killed in a mortar attack on the base by rebels, according to TASS." has to be embarrassing to Russia.


According to Kommersant, who cite two military - diplomatic sources it's true and dispute what MoD came out with.
https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/3514249

MoD is saying that two soldiers died, and that the planes were only damaged and not destroyed and released a couple of pictures.
[image]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DStG0DKUQAAIxMA.jpg[/image]
[image]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DStG1-KU8AAKuyF.jpg[/image]
[image]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DStG3HkV4AAX2-z.jpg[/image]

The Kommersant report also reports that a mortar struck an ammo container. It's possible that it exploded and caused the damage to the planes.

More importantly, the Russians have gotten rid of the Syrians who were handling perimeter patrol and have replaced them with Russians. (https://lenta.ru/news/2018/01/04/defence/)




Dysta -> RE: Naval and Defense News (1/5/2018 12:40:43 AM)

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ORIGINAL: TheOttoman

[image]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DStG3HkV4AAX2-z.jpg[/image]


That is a very suspicious looking photo over there. This one looks too clean to puncture the fuel compartment, more like a bullet shot. And second where’s the air pressure to squeeze out the fuel (unless there are more than 1 hole)?

But that’s is an interesting damage nonetheless, does CMANO has the fuel leak system for damaged units?




Dysta -> RE: Naval and Defense News (1/6/2018 1:14:39 AM)

To make air defense even more complicated, China has reopened the M503 flight route for allow Chinese airliners to go alongside the Taiwan Strait. This can relieve the air congestion, but at the same time turning them into meat-shields for potential campaign of unification:

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/policies-politics/article/2126902/taipei-protests-after-beijing-opens-new-aviation




Hongjian -> RE: Naval and Defense News (1/6/2018 5:44:07 PM)

https://twitter.com/OedoSoldier/status/949455350700244992

New batch of Type 054A seemed to have been equipped with a new jammer/EW suite, judging from the difference of the new active jammer emitters to the older (left).





Filitch -> RE: Naval and Defense News (1/6/2018 6:51:33 PM)

Yesterday live report from Hmeymim https://youtu.be/1dLN4Dzxzs8?t=78




sven6345789 -> RE: Naval and Defense News (1/7/2018 10:16:45 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Dysta

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ORIGINAL: TheOttoman

[image]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DStG3HkV4AAX2-z.jpg[/image]


That is a very suspicious looking photo over there. This one looks too clean to puncture the fuel compartment, more like a bullet shot. And second where’s the air pressure to squeeze out the fuel (unless there are more than 1 hole)?

But that’s is an interesting damage nonetheless, does CMANO has the fuel leak system for damaged units?



Does anyone here seriously believe anything the russian MoD or TASS says or writes.
Come on, those are the same guys that talked about self defense forces on the Crimea.

Putin is ex KGB. Lying about something is part of the KGB standard procedure.

I would go for the 7 planes here. Maybe no full loss, maybe only damage. But if the Russians show pictures, these pictures most certainly do not show the truth unless proven otherwise.




redcoat -> RE: Naval and Defense News (1/7/2018 1:56:17 PM)


It looks like the PRC has plans to establish an overseas naval base near Gwadar in Pakistan:

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy-defence/article/2127040/first-djibouti-now-pakistan-port-earmarked-chinese

http://www.newsweek.com/china-building-military-base-pakistan-america-balochistan-772092

Pakistan has denied the reports that China has plans to build a base in their country.




Filitch -> RE: Naval and Defense News (1/7/2018 3:22:11 PM)


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ORIGINAL: sven6345789

Does anyone here seriously believe anything the russian MoD or TASS says or writes.
Come on, those are the same guys that talked about self defense forces on the Crimea.

Putin is ex KGB. Lying about something is part of the KGB standard procedure.

I would go for the 7 planes here. Maybe no full loss, maybe only damage. But if the Russians show pictures, these pictures most certainly do not show the truth unless proven otherwise.

LOL. This photos are not from MoD or TASS. This are photos from independent photographer.
And if you watch live report from Hmeymim you can see, that Su-24 "29 white" with damaged horizontal stabilizer is already repaired.




Scar79 -> RE: Naval and Defense News (1/8/2018 3:44:05 AM)

@sven6345789

Please, do not derail this thread with your political flamebait. It's for the Naval and Defense News.




User2 -> RE: Naval and Defense News (1/8/2018 7:41:06 PM)

Interesting footage of KSA F-15 being shot down by Houthis. It seems the pilot saw incoming missile: the plane began to fire flares and switched to afterburn few seconds before impact.

https://southfront.org/houthis-released-video-showing-moment-when-saudi-led-coalition-f-15-was-downed-by-surfate-to-air-missile/




Dysta -> RE: Naval and Defense News (1/9/2018 1:38:49 AM)

I remember one of a CMANO scenario featuring the modern battle between Cuba and USA, there is a script that when F-15 is downed, the message log will comes out about its first-ever defeat. I dunno if it’s only triggered by air-to-air only, or how to write a script like this.




kevinkins -> RE: Naval and Defense News (1/9/2018 12:04:49 PM)

Spy satellite lost in space:

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2018/01/08/highly-classified-us-spy-satellite-appears-to-be-a-total-loss-after-spacex-launch.html

Not a lot of details yet. They may hit the news later today. Wonder if the intent was to park it over NK?

Kevin




Dysta -> RE: Naval and Defense News (1/10/2018 6:50:24 AM)

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ORIGINAL: User2

Interesting footage of KSA F-15 being shot down by Houthis. It seems the pilot saw incoming missile: the plane began to fire flares and switched to afterburn few seconds before impact.



The news spreads everywhere, so does the F-15 debate. There is a forum that discussing the Saudi pilot’s ‘error’ is more likely causing the demise. The missile that the rebels used is R-27T - - an infrared seeking version of BVRAAM repurposed on an improvised land-launcher.

One of them had said that because the pilot was both deploying Flares and opening an Afterburner when an vampire was right on his six, he didn’t realized it’s a BVR missile, as he did both of these in usual routine against slower and short-legged MANPAD. The aircraft exposed a LOTS of heat signatures, which is actually helping the R-27T to chase it. What is worse is R-27T has huge amount of fuel for immediate acceleration to Mach 4 and Fuel-Air Explosive effect, which is further nailing the coffin:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1195918/pg2




Filitch -> RE: Naval and Defense News (1/10/2018 11:32:55 AM)

It's strange that fact of the attack to Hmeymim airbase and Tartus naval facility by drones passed undetected by CMANO society. Here is russian-language text https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3040967.html. Summary: on the night of 5 Jan to 6 Jan air defence detected 13 pinpoints (small-sized targets). 10 of them are moved toward Hmeymim airbase and 3 to Tartus naval facility. 6 UAVs was overrided by EW. 3 of them landed and 3 crashed. 7 UAVs was shout down by Pantsir-S. There are no casualties or damage. UAVs used GPS navigation.




kevinkins -> RE: Naval and Defense News (1/10/2018 1:41:58 PM)

https://www.defensenews.com/air/2018/01/09/turkey-wants-to-link-f-35-jets-to-its-air-force-network/?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=EBB%201.10.18&utm_term=Editorial%20-%20Early%20Bird%20Brief

Pretty two-faced of Turkey considering they are buying the S-400 from NATO's primary adversary - Russia.




TheOttoman -> RE: Naval and Defense News (1/10/2018 5:49:58 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Filitch

It's strange that fact of the attack to Hmeymim airbase and Tartus naval facility by drones passed undetected by CMANO society. Here is russian-language text https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3040967.html. Summary: on the night of 5 Jan to 6 Jan air defence detected 13 pinpoints (small-sized targets). 10 of them are moved toward Hmeymim airbase and 3 to Tartus naval facility. 6 UAVs was overrided by EW. 3 of them landed and 3 crashed. 7 UAVs was shout down by Pantsir-S. There are no casualties or damage. UAVs used GPS navigation.


If I posted all of the "cool news" that came across my desk here, I'd be considered a spammer, so I wouldn't say that it went undetected.




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