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njp72 -> RE: Empire strikes back- NJP vs Wargmr (no wargmr) (5/22/2015 10:25:45 PM)

I'm also being hunted by a swarm of subs-a giant fly swat would come in handy right about now.

Failing that I changed my settings on KB after taking a play out of Mr Kane's game book.

I have received a lot of these messages during the Op reports- at least 7 reports per day of subs attacking and hitting Allied SS.

My question is- are they actually hitting them???

D3A1 Val from Junyo-2 attacking an Allied SS at 106,163
an Allied SS is reported HIT
D3A1 Val reports periscope at 107, 164 near Lord Howe Island
B5N1 Kate reports diving submarine at 107, 164 near Lord Howe Island
B5N1 Kate from Shoho-2 attacking a Grampus class SS at 105,162
a KXIV Class class SS is reported HIT
B5N1 Kate reports possible submarine at 108, 161 near Noumea
B5N1 Kate from Shoho-2 attacking an Allied SS at 106,161
an Allied SS is reported HIT



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Lowpe -> RE: Empire strikes back- NJP vs Wargmr (no wargmr) (5/23/2015 2:13:25 AM)

I figure about 10% hit, maybe more. Just try to max the DL. If you can spare them put 2 or 3 destroyers on dedicated ASW with react two hexes and follow your carriers.




njp72 -> RE: Empire strikes back- NJP vs Wargmr (no wargmr) (5/23/2015 2:19:33 AM)

Thanks, I do have them lit up like a Christmas tree with just about all of KBs air assets dedicated to the task.

I have good LBA search coverage around the area and pretty certain his CVs have long fled.

From this point onwards in the war, KB and friends will only operate under the cover of LBA search.


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ORIGINAL: Lowpe

I figure about 10% hit, maybe more. Just try to max the DL. If you can spare them put 2 or 3 destroyers on dedicated ASW with react two hexes and follow your carriers.






njp72 -> RE: Empire strikes back- NJP vs Wargmr (no wargmr) (5/30/2015 11:15:55 PM)

In a desperate attempt to prevent falling off into page 3 for the AARs, here is quick update.

Auto vic is off the table and I have withdrawn from the east coast of Oz. The new tactic is to bleed the Allies and take full advantage of Sce 2 forces and interior LOCs.

Main targets have been Allied fighter aircraft and pockets of cut off/ exposed Allied troops.

Manilla still holds out but will fall shortly. China is turning into an exercise of extermination as pockets of cut off starving Chinese are liquidated with armour and air.

Wargmr is engaged in a significant buildup of his forces with likely targets being:

1. Fiji (exposed and hard to defend from my perspective)- most logical target.

2. Noumea

3. Perth

4. Ceylon

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njp72 -> RE: Empire strikes back- NJP vs Wargmr (no wargmr) (5/30/2015 11:21:17 PM)

The happy hunting ground of China :-)



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obvert -> RE: Empire strikes back- NJP vs Wargmr (no wargmr) (5/30/2015 11:22:11 PM)

You've done well against his ships and ground forces so far. I'd say it's time to get to a defensive perimeter now and let him decide where he thinks it best to strike, then react to that. It's very easy to hit an extended Japanese Empire, but harder the closer it is to the inner circle. Pull back while you can.



njp72 -> RE: Empire strikes back- NJP vs Wargmr (no wargmr) (5/30/2015 11:24:11 PM)

The stalemate of Burma- suits me just fine!

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njp72 -> RE: Empire strikes back- NJP vs Wargmr (no wargmr) (5/30/2015 11:33:22 PM)

Wise words and advice there Obvert. Without turning this AAR into Obvert fan club, I find myself agreeing with just about everything you suggest or propose :-)

Below I have already started the construction of my strong points in the DEI. I lacked the discipline and common sense to do this properly last time and I paid big time for it.

I am using forces which are quietly being withdrawn from Oz :-)


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ORIGINAL: obvert

You've done well against his ships and ground forces so far. I'd say it's time to get to a defensive perimeter now and let him decide where he thinks it best to strike, then react to that. It's very easy to hit an extended Japanese Empire, but harder the closer it is to the inner circle. Pull back while you can.



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njp72 -> RE: Empire strikes back- NJP vs Wargmr (no wargmr) (5/30/2015 11:41:18 PM)

Opportunity or trap?

Wargmr loves to forward deploy troops on multiple axis of advance. I find I can stop some but not all and thus it has been a very effective strategy.

Below is another example. It could be a trap but regardless it will take me considerable troops and resources to destroy this outpost.

He knows I can't resist going after exposed positions and has played on it before. :-)

Either way I intend to send these digital troops to the afterlife :-)

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njp72 -> RE: Empire strikes back- NJP vs Wargmr (no wargmr) (6/8/2015 9:14:03 AM)

State of war Nov 42

Auto vic is off the table and the majority of IJA has now advanced north away from Oz's east coast (we don't retreat).

Hobart has now been recaptured by the Allies. Digging in has well and truly commenced with the DEI and central pacific looking quite tough. Troops are pouring into the region after the capture of Manilla.

On all key metrics the Japanese economy is strong with a/c production now starting too really ramp up.

I will not be adopting a passive defence. I intend to build strong points at key strategic locations and have strong mobile reserves just out of air recon. I am still actively targeting his land based fighter aircraft which I suspect are quite low in pool reserves. Without adequate fighter aircraft, I am hoping he will struggle in consolidating any position he captures.

Allied ground losses have also been quite high for the first 12 months- mostly Chinese but the Australians/ new Zealanders have also taken some heavy hits.


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njp72 -> RE: Empire strikes back- NJP vs Wargmr (no wargmr) (6/8/2015 9:19:49 AM)

Allied fighter losses

As you will note, I have been heavily targeting his P40es. FOW aside, P40es are now the highest total loss of any airframe.

I m also now going after any Hurricanes I can realistically reach. I still think the lack of Allied fighter aircraft is their Achilles heel in 42 and 43.



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njp72 -> RE: Empire strikes back- NJP vs Wargmr (no wargmr) (6/8/2015 9:28:54 AM)

Central Pacific

As per Wargmr's favourite strategy, once a position has been seized he strongly fortifies it. However it is difficult to fortify the immediate area after the initial position has been captured.

Below I have circled in black a number of the local bases which not strongly garrisoned and potentially vulnerable to a counter attack. If they can be seized his LOC can be threatened and hopefully a gruelling war of attrition can then commence. Of course I have to be particularly careful to ensure I do not risk valuable assets which in essence is a delaying action. :-)




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njp72 -> RE: Empire strikes back- NJP vs Wargmr (no wargmr) (6/20/2015 12:48:38 AM)

Dec 42

Game continues at a good pace despite interference from work for both of us.

Dec 42 and the game is evenly poised. Int screen and comments attached below.

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njp72 -> RE: Empire strikes back- NJP vs Wargmr (no wargmr) (6/20/2015 12:54:12 AM)

China is still the land of milk and honey. Moving closer to the end game as we begin the liquidation of the Changsha pocket- 130K troops.

It is a tough nut but they are out of supply and being whittled down by guns and armour.

This is the training run for the eventual big show- Chungking.

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njp72 -> RE: Empire strikes back- NJP vs Wargmr (no wargmr) (6/20/2015 1:01:02 AM)

There are a number of tempting targets with Allied troops in exposed positions. Wisely or unwisely I have decided I would reinforce a number of key defensive positions before I go after them.

At the moment air and naval assets have commenced a blockade on some of these positions in the central pacific.



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njp72 -> RE: Empire strikes back- NJP vs Wargmr (no wargmr) (7/1/2015 8:59:24 AM)

State of War Jan 43

The game continues at a rapid rate despite the lack of updates on both mine and Wargmr's AAR due to work, family etc.

Reasonably happy with the current state of affairs as inner defences continue to be built up and new airframes come online.

Both sides are being cautious with their naval assets but there is plenty of aerial skirmishing going on. China remains the main theatre of opportunity for Japan

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njp72 -> RE: Empire strikes back- NJP vs Wargmr (no wargmr) (7/1/2015 9:08:25 AM)

Central Pacific

The Allies have slowly been building up the pacific and establishing reasonably strong positions despite my best efforts with land based air.

Finally after some inner debate, I committed KB to wrest the initiative from Wargmr and inflict some pain. I feel reasonably safe at this point as I don't see him committing to a carrier clash without Hellcats.

After two days of naval strikes we destroyed 2 modern CLs, 1 or 2 DDs and about 5/6 AKs, AGs. Not a great catch but his remaining naval forces appear to be fleeing which will make stage 2 a little easier :-)



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njp72 -> RE: Empire strikes back- NJP vs Wargmr (no wargmr) (7/1/2015 9:14:54 AM)

China

The Changsha pocket has been destroyed after some fierce fighting (130K of troops).

Now redeploying to tackle the next set of objectives before we eventually turn back to Chungking.

I am still planning for the Chinese campaign to be largely over in the next 8 months as there are not many combat effective Chinese formations left in the field.



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Lowpe -> RE: Empire strikes back- NJP vs Wargmr (no wargmr) (7/1/2015 12:59:34 PM)

You guys play so fast!

Can you get a 3-1 by the end of 43? It looks doable with China.




njp72 -> RE: Empire strikes back- NJP vs Wargmr (no wargmr) (7/2/2015 2:09:35 AM)

Hi Lowpe, both wargmr and I believe a fast game is a good game :-)

On face value it does look possible (3:1) particularly given the Chinese situation.

But alas no, he is too capable as a player and knows that I am weak at Fiji and Noumea.

Once he works out the pattern and strength of the defences and the arrival of Hellcats, I fear he will move very aggressively.

Ceylon and Perth will also be targeted in the next 6 months.



Lowpe -> RE: Empire strikes back- NJP vs Wargmr (no wargmr) (7/2/2015 2:59:20 AM)


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ORIGINAL: njp72

Hi Lowpe, both wargmr and I believe a fast game is a good game :-)

On face value it does look possible (3:1) particularly given the Chinese situation.

But alas no, he is too capable as a player and knows that I am weak at Fiji and Noumea.

Once he works out the pattern and strength of the defences and the arrival of Hellcats, I fear he will move very aggressively.

Ceylon and Perth will also be targeted in the next 6 months.



Wargamer move aggressively. Where did you get that idea?[:D][:D]



njp72 -> RE: Empire strikes back- NJP vs Wargmr (no wargmr) (7/4/2015 5:59:35 AM)

Yes he is :-)

Well the limited operation in the Central Pacific continues with relative success. Initially I was hoping for a carrier clash but I believe he didn't want to risk his key assets in early 43- makes sense.

I have been targeting some of the weaker atolls as I am keen to wedge and isolate some of his key strong points.

The goals of the operation have largely been met and I will commence withdrawing in the next day. His subs have now appeared and are aggressively hunting my CVs.

Either way, as long as I don't suffer a disaster the next turn, this will slow him down and give him something to think about- or not :-)

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njp72 -> RE: Empire strikes back- NJP vs Wargmr (no wargmr) (7/7/2015 12:02:12 AM)

Quick update

In brilliance only matched by Yamamoto's performance at Midway, the IJN have managed to sustain heavier casualties in the last 5 days of Jan 43 than 42 combined.

Of course it was the extraction out of the central pacific operation which has caused significant problems due to his land based air, aggressive Fletcher destroyers and the biggest problem- subs.

Thus far 2 x CAs, 6 x DDs and about 6 AKs have been lost. My favourite was the CA Maya in a surface engagement where my entire fleet only sustained one shell hit which was a 6 inch penetrating hit which detonated the magazine.

Also 2 x Fleet CVs have taken torpedos from subs and now the once mighty KB is steaming around on right angles dodging swarms of subs once more.

On a brighter note the Chinese continue to be obliterated.

Wargmr is certainly back in the fight after a period of being dormant!




njp72 -> RE: Empire strikes back- NJP vs Wargmr (no wargmr) (7/16/2015 7:21:39 AM)

Update Feb 43

I note my cunning opponent has updated his AAR, so as not to lose the psychological battle, I have decided to get off page 2. :-)

Well after a disappointing finish to the central pacific operation all fronts have stabilised and I have been able to get some good strikes on his merchant shipping.

Fiji has fallen and Noumea looks like it is living on borrowed time. The attritional warfare around the central pacific and Horn Island is once again favouring the Empire due to our ability to mass superior air frames over the battlefield.

China is slowly being crushed but still has some life in it. Reasonably happy at this stage, particularly now that I have been able to inflict some minor damage to his AK/AP shipping.

I will post some maps shortly.

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njp72 -> RE: Empire strikes back- NJP vs Wargmr (no wargmr) (7/16/2015 7:27:34 AM)

China

Stubborn but largely futile resistance as the backbone of the Chinese forces have pretty much been broken.

Still a large amount of stragglers left behind the lines causing nuisance raids on my LOCs.

Hoping to commence the final assault on Chungking in the next two months. :-)

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njp72 -> RE: Empire strikes back- NJP vs Wargmr (no wargmr) (7/16/2015 7:37:54 AM)

Central Pacific

Adopted some new tactics to take advantage of the superior naval search coverage I have in the area.

When Wargmr moves in force to a new locality with his screening SAGs, we will avoid initial contact except for a few ineffective air strikes to create a false sense of security.

Once the amphib taskforces enter the kill zone we hit him with everything (air, subs, SAGs not sighted) deliberately targeting soft AKs/APs.

After some carnage we immediately retreat our naval assets but finish off cripples with air and subs.

Thus far it has worked well but as always he will quickly adapt and I will be back to the drawing board. :-(

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njp72 -> RE: Empire strikes back- NJP vs Wargmr (no wargmr) (7/16/2015 7:46:55 AM)

N/E Australia

Same approach here but I have had additional fun by adding sub laid mines and the occasional BB bombardment.

Logistically this area is easier for me to sustain and dish out punishment. Again I am not interested in taking on his warships in naval combat. Only after the soft targets that can't fight back. :-)

I have been trying to lure his DDs and CLs by using naval forces as bait into LBA range but only with limited success.

Once he establishes better air search coverage around this area and the Central Pacific the jig is likely to be up. :-(

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njp72 -> RE: Empire strikes back- NJP vs Wargmr (no wargmr) (7/16/2015 7:57:42 AM)

DEI

Final map. I have been worried that I have only sighted his CVs on the fringes of the battle space and never engaged.

Also heavy sig int continues to build up around key points. In anticipation of that dreaded deep strike, I have been buying out battered/disrupted IJA divisions from China and sending them to the DEI and the Kuriles.

I also have significant naval elements in the vicinity of both locations.

I will be ready if he comes but I'm not sure if I will have enough!

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njp72 -> RE: Empire strikes back- NJP vs Wargmr (no wargmr) (7/25/2015 7:55:15 AM)

Update Late Feb

Once again I can't believe I have been relegated to page 2 :-)

After the fall of Fiji, the game has fallen into a war of attrition as small naval and air battles continue across many theatres.

This kind of warfare is definitively favouring the Japanese due to the superior air/naval search coverage, closer proximity to key Japanese logistical hubs and importantly the superior numbers of capable IJN/IJA fighter aircraft.

I sense Wargmr's frustration but unless he commits his carriers, I don't think he is going anywhere fast.

It also proves (in my mind at least) to some degree the advantages of going deep and seizing key positions on the cheap. It is not an easy undertaking nor risk free for the Allies to even reclaim positions such as Noumea or Fiji if they don't know the whereabouts of KB.

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njp72 -> RE: Empire strikes back- NJP vs Wargmr (no wargmr) (7/25/2015 8:02:25 AM)

China

Important development as finally the link up between the IJA in China and Burma has now been achieved!

Majority of Chinese now locked up in Chungking awaiting the final offensive. I am feeling confident that China will effectively cease as an active theatre by July 43 which should free up some options.

There will be no mercy here as I want this game to go well into 45 :-)

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