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Cmdr_Vessery -> RE: TGW AAR (4/17/2015 4:38:58 AM)

Saturation bombing results of the Soviet airfield at Vladimir.



Aircraft losses listed in the next post.

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Cmdr_Vessery -> RE: TGW AAR (4/17/2015 4:39:32 AM)

Airfield Vladimir aircraft losses.

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As you can see, I brought in ALOT of support for the 6 bomber air groups. I had 6 AS fighter groups within range for cover.

On the battle front where movement is static right now, I am targeting specific airfields for strategic bombing to reduce Soviet air power. OFC, conducting these types of bomber raids is hard on the bomber groups, cuz, now I have 2 bomber groups that are in reorg.. doh..



Cmdr_Vessery -> RE: TGW AAR (4/17/2015 4:52:02 AM)

Steve,

Got a unit question for you.. And, I'm sure that it's correct, but I gotta ask anyway.

129th FLak unit has 100 88's, is that correct? The others seem like they have about half that. But, it is listed as "OKH Army flak", so I'm assuming that the equipment list is good. Makes for a really nice tank buster unit... :)

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sPzAbt653 -> RE: TGW AAR (4/17/2015 3:16:45 PM)

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129th FLak unit has 100 88's, is that correct?


Can't find the site for that right now, I'll look later when I have more time.



sPzAbt653 -> RE: TGW AAR (4/17/2015 11:11:44 PM)

Still can't find it. Too many pages of notes and not enough organization on my part. I thought it was Sturmvogel or Panzerkiel, but those searches aren't bringing anything up.

I remember reading an article somewhere about the SturmFlak Regiments and the differences between them and the standard Flak regiments. Whatever the source, it was based on something because I know I didn't make it up. Of course, the source could have been wrong or inaccurate.



Cmdr_Vessery -> RE: TGW AAR (4/18/2015 3:41:51 AM)


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ORIGINAL: sPzAbt653

Still can't find it. Too many pages of notes and not enough organization on my part. I thought it was Sturmvogel or Panzerkiel, but those searches aren't bringing anything up.

I remember reading an article somewhere about the SturmFlak Regiments and the differences between them and the standard Flak regiments. Whatever the source, it was based on something because I know I didn't make it up. Of course, the source could have been wrong or inaccurate.

No worries. It caught my eye cause it was much bigger than the other flak units. Good by me. No need to look further.



sPzAbt653 -> RE: TGW AAR (4/18/2015 6:47:21 AM)

Another possibility is that particular unit was combined with some other smaller units without reflecting it in the unit name. For example, 129th Flak Reg plus 36th, 58th and 92nd Flak Btns. Something like that.



governato -> RE: TGW AAR (4/23/2015 8:06:04 PM)

Btw, the number of IL-4 being produced seems way way high. My sources quote about 4400 being produced in total, consistent with the fact that the scenario allows to field only about 200 of them ...



larryfulkerson -> RE: TGW AAR (4/23/2015 8:14:49 PM)

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ORIGINAL: governato
Btw, the number of IL-4 being produced seems way way high. My sources quote about 4400 being produced in total, consistent with the fact that the scenario allows to field only about 200 of them ...

This figure you quoted, 4400 being produced, is that during the entire war or just a snapshot of one year's production or what? I'm
not aware of what the "actual" number is supposed to be but I would like it to be accurate. What's your source dude?



sPzAbt653 -> RE: TGW AAR (4/23/2015 10:19:41 PM)

Yeah, I didn't include the Air Unit stuff in the Soviet OOB Doc.

Production numbers won't be exactly as they were historically because production fluctuates during the scenario. Also, TGW doesn't produce all of the historical types of planes, the air unit oob has been streamlined to fit the scenario. For the Il-4, most of those units are removed in May 1942, only the Long Range Bomber units stay. Regardless what planes the LRB's used historically, in TGW they only contain the obsolete Pe-'s and Il-4's. A couple of those units are in for the duration of the scenario, as they were historically. So there could be 100,000 of them produced, but only a couple hundred will ever be in action at any point.

More important are the numbers for Lost and Assigned, which at scenarios end should resemble historical numbers. However, we don't have any scenario end files for TGW v1.8 yet, so there could be some needed changes.



governato -> RE: TGW AAR (4/29/2015 8:56:53 PM)

you can check this post for a simple formula for how take care of the production modifiers along the course of the scenario, given a figure for the overall production.

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/fb.asp?m=3238867

Larry, for the Il-4 production numbers there is Wikipedia, but when I designed EF41-45 I cross checked with a Russian website, I think there is a link (if it is still active) in the scenario notes.




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