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larryfulkerson -> RE: TGW AAR (3/12/2015 5:53:34 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Cmdr_Vessery
...for this scenario, what about adding some snippet to the recent news feed when new
equipment is introduced to the battlefield. I always read through the news and other reports before
starting in on the battle stuff for each new turn.

I've put in a request to Steve about it because it's his scenario too. It's mostly his actually. He's done the
lion's share of the work on it. I'm more just a cheerleader.



Cmdr_Vessery -> RE: TGW AAR (3/12/2015 6:08:34 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: larryfulkerson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Cmdr_Vessery
...for this scenario, what about adding some snippet to the recent news feed when new
equipment is introduced to the battlefield. I always read through the news and other reports before
starting in on the battle stuff for each new turn.

I've put in a request to Steve about it because it's his scenario too. It's mostly his actually. He's done the
lion's share of the work on it. I'm more just a cheerleader.

Just a suggestion to add a little more flavor to the scenario. That's all. At the end of the day, it doesn't
serve much, but rounds out the scenario IMO. And I'm only talking about new technology, tanks and planes mostly,
I suppose the list could get lengthy.. Either way.



larryfulkerson -> RE: TGW AAR (3/12/2015 6:21:11 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Cmdr_Vessery
Just a suggestion to add a little more flavor to the scenario. That's all. At the end of the day, it doesn't
serve much, but rounds out the scenario IMO. And I'm only talking about new technology, tanks and planes mostly,
I suppose the list could get lengthy.. Either way.

Yeah more flavor. I like that. IMHO there's never enough news strings. I'd like to instrument the scenario where the
news strings tell you more about what is going on under the hood. Like the shock values for each side. And I like
the idea whereby the new equipment is announced. Things like that. More things about coming weather maybe.
I'd like to unleash Steve and let him go wild with the news strings.

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Cmdr_Vessery -> RE: TGW AAR (3/12/2015 7:07:33 PM)

In an effort to support both AGN and AGC operations, the rail line between Leningrad and Moscow
is being repaired. Divisions are pushing out 25kms from the rail line to keep the enemy from
interdicting rail movement and supplies.

So far, all efforts are being successful.



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Cmdr_Vessery -> RE: TGW AAR (3/12/2015 7:30:16 PM)

Operational battlefront view. Turn 44, 19APR42.

AGS just completed an encirclement and destruction of multiple Soviet units. Highlighted area is the
next pocket of Soviet forces that is targeted for Destruction by AGC and AGS Panzer divisions.

Resistance is stiff near Moscow, but weak points have been identified for a push through and a link up
with AGS panzers pushing NW.

AGN update - Extending defensive line along the Leningrad-Moscow rail line.
AGC update - Repositioning panzer forces for operations in conjunction with AGS panzers pushing NW.
AGS update - Main effort pushing north towards Tula to link up with AGC panzers pushing SE. Far southern
flank is holding steady due to low supply reaching the front line.



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Cmdr_Vessery -> RE: TGW AAR (3/13/2015 6:07:47 PM)

AGC / AGS update -

Close up of the salient being encircled by Panzers of AGC and AGS. Initial push off has been successful by AGC moving SE. AGS has run into some resistance, but with AGC's jump off, resistance is expected to turn.

The circle is scheduled to be closed off within two weeks, and another 4 weeks to reduce the pocket of defenders.

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Cmdr_Vessery -> RE: TGW AAR (3/13/2015 6:27:02 PM)

A view from the Soviet side with this salient started south of Moscow. Alot of Red troops showing in this pocket. Will see if Elmer spots what's going on.



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Cmdr_Vessery -> RE: TGW AAR (3/13/2015 8:08:31 PM)

AGC / AGS update.

The encirclement has been completed. AGC and AGS panzers and motorized units have linked up. The pocket of Soviet forces are completely cut off from their supply source. German Intel is unsure how many Soviet units are locked inside of this pocket. The reduction of this pocket may take longer than original expected. German Commanders have to contend with a breakout, or a potential relief effort from the east. Defensive lines are being draw for effort from both directions.

From the looks of it, Orel has a large defensive ring around the city, for the time being it is being sealed off.



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Cmdr_Vessery -> RE: TGW AAR (3/13/2015 9:22:16 PM)

From the Soviet point of view. A fair number of divisions still inside when the Germans closed the door. At least 4 HQ's at a quick look.



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There will be a change in Soviet Commanders after this dust settles from this blunder.



Cmdr_Vessery -> RE: TGW AAR (3/13/2015 9:25:07 PM)

Hey Steve,

Do you have this off map deployment also?





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Cmdr_Vessery -> RE: TGW AAR (3/14/2015 8:10:19 PM)

AGC/AGS update - Turn 48, 17MAY42

Reduction of the trapped Soviet forces is nearing completion. Bryansk was recently take by a surrounding attack. Remaining Soviet trapped forces will likely be destroyed in the coming week. This is a serious blow to the Soviet Army.

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Cmdr_Vessery -> RE: TGW AAR (3/14/2015 8:49:17 PM)

AGC / AGS update, Turn 49, 24MAY42

Soviet forces have been completely eliminated. Troops are moving back to staging areas for a short rest, and new assignments.

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Cmdr_Vessery -> RE: TGW AAR (3/14/2015 9:13:06 PM)

Operational Battlefront view, Turn 49, 24MAY42.

With the reduction of the pocket SE of Moscow, that has actually shortened up the front battle lines with AGC and AGS. Next operational plans are to bring the AGS line forward towards Stalingrad.



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larryfulkerson -> RE: TGW AAR (3/14/2015 9:24:48 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Cmdr_Vessery
Hey Steve,
Do you have this off map deployment also?
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Steve has fixed that particular unit in the 1.6 version of the scenario. Cool.

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Cmdr_Vessery -> RE: TGW AAR (3/14/2015 9:28:01 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: larryfulkerson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Cmdr_Vessery
Hey Steve,
Do you have this off map deployment also?
[image]local://upfiles/25891/4FC213A0111B48CE8B7E9A54579E0153.gif[/image]

Steve has fixed that particular unit in the 1.6 version of the scenario. Cool.



Nice.



Cmdr_Vessery -> RE: TGW AAR (3/17/2015 4:27:17 PM)

AGN update -

Finnish troops Northeast of Leningrad are running into stronger Soviet forces. In some cases, Soviet troops are pressing in on the Finns. AGN Commanders are being tasked with pressing out from Leningrad and making contact with the Finnish troops under siege.

41st Pz Korp is tasked with the main point of effort to make contact, along with the 42nd Army Korp for support. 1st Army Korp is tasked with defending the right flank of the advance. Operations are expected to begin within the next week as forces jump off. An additional air wing group is being brought in to help with local air superiority efforts.

The terrain is tough and not best suited for mobile forces, so the tanks will be forced to stick to the roads for movement, Infantry divisions will cover the badlands area.


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Cmdr_Vessery -> RE: TGW AAR (3/18/2015 1:30:13 AM)

AGC / AGS update - Turn 50, 31MAY42

Seeing another opportunity to punch through the thin Soviet line south of Moscow, the Panzer divisions of both Army groups were put into play. An decent encirclement around Orel has been accomplished with multiple Soviet divisions within including; Bryansk Front HQ, Soviet Reserve Front HQ, and the 4th Shock Army HQ. Not seeing any resistance down the rail line, 19th Panzer Division rushed forward and took the town of Yelets with no defenders. The airfield was taken intact, and Luftwaffe elements(JG-54) are scheduled to arrive shortly to assist on this advance front. The Orel pocket will be slowly starved of supplies and eliminated in the weeks to come.





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Cmdr_Vessery -> RE: TGW AAR (3/18/2015 3:32:26 AM)

Recent airfield attack by Elmer.. This air battle was definitely in my favor...


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Cmdr_Vessery -> RE: TGW AAR (3/18/2015 2:26:02 PM)

AGN update - Turn 53, 21JUN42

The operation to relieve the Finns is underway. Minor set back, 342nd Infantry Division pressed forward, and then was counter attacked and retreated away from friendly lines. Division was pushed into the swampy areas east of Leningrad. In this retreat, the division lost a substantial amount of equipment. Communications were just restored this week by advancing Panzer divisions. This unit will need to get back into friendly held territory for a good resupply and refit.



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Cmdr_Vessery -> RE: TGW AAR (3/19/2015 3:31:17 PM)

AGN update - Turn 54, 28JUN42

The operation to link up with the Finnish troops is progressing, slower than expected, but the Soviet forces have been pushed back 75-100km's and the link up is anticipated next week.

The 342nd Infantry division was rescued and moved to Leningrad for resupply.

Panzer divisions will be shifting left to make the link up on the single track road.

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Cmdr_Vessery -> RE: TGW AAR (3/21/2015 4:46:11 AM)

AGN update - Turn 55, 05JUL42

The operation to link up with the Finns is moving along nicely.

36th Motorized division pushed a soviet unit past the Finnish lines and destroyed it. 6th Panzer along with 87th and 93rd Infantry divisions are making an assault on a built up Soviet location along the road.

1st Panzer along with Infantry support is making an assault on the town of Tikhvin. Original plan was to surround the town, but the terrain to the east of town isn't completely ideal for mobile operations.



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Cmdr_Vessery -> RE: TGW AAR (3/21/2015 4:53:02 AM)

AGC / AGS update - Turn 55, 05JUL42

Another huge gap has been opened up north of Kursk and south of Tula. Mobile divisions are sweeping in behind the soviet main line of defense and encircled another large Soviet force NE of Kursk.



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Cmdr_Vessery -> RE: TGW AAR (3/21/2015 6:16:22 AM)

Operational Battlefront view, turn 56, 12JUL42

Defensive lines are built from Leningrad down to Moscow, and from Kursk down to right southern flank. Mobile operations have been conducted in the area south of Tula and north of Kursk. Multiple Soviet divisions have been encircled and eliminated.

AirForce status -

FW-190, Me-109, Me-110 air groups set to AS missions spread out along the front
All other air groups are set to Interdiction missions based back from the front






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Cmdr_Vessery -> RE: TGW AAR (3/22/2015 9:47:07 PM)

AGC / AGS update - Turn 59, 02AUG42

The Soviet encircled troops near Kursk have been reduced and eliminated. The concentrated Mobile forces are continuing to surround and eliminate Soviet troops as the move south towards Rostov.



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Cmdr_Vessery -> RE: TGW AAR (3/22/2015 9:51:26 PM)

AGN update - Turn 50, 02AUG42

The operation to link up with the Finnish troops NW of Leningrad has been successful. Troops are setting up defensive lines in this area. No forward operations are expected due to the difficult terrain for the mobile forces. Soviet troops are moving up through the rough terrain, but are not fairing well when coming into contact with German troops.

German Mobile units are pulling back to decent terrain for support.




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Cmdr_Vessery -> RE: TGW AAR (3/22/2015 9:58:54 PM)

1st Panzer group supply unit.

Steve / Larry,

Got a question on this supply unit, the unit notes indicate that it has a supply radius of "4", so my question is what is the baseline supply amount that should be extending out from this supply unit?

Or am I using this unit incorrectly. I'm thinking that it is a "mobile" supply point to extend my supply net. Is that wrong?





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sPzAbt653 -> RE: TGW AAR (3/22/2015 11:09:35 PM)

Manual 8.3 - Supply Units: Increases the Supply Level in each supplied location that can trace a path no longer than the Supply Radius to
the Supply unit. Additionally, Supply units multiply supply distribution
to adjacent Cooperative units by 1.5. There is no effect on
Unsupplied locations.

So, units within 4 hexes get a slight boost, adjacent units get a 1.5 boost. The boosts are for what the unit receives, so the map may show that the net could provide '42', but due to all the factors involved it may get less, then that number is boosted. It is not a supply point.



Cmdr_Vessery -> RE: TGW AAR (3/23/2015 1:30:49 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: sPzAbt653

Manual 8.3 - Supply Units: Increases the Supply Level in each supplied location that can trace a path no longer than the Supply Radius to
the Supply unit. Additionally, Supply units multiply supply distribution
to adjacent Cooperative units by 1.5. There is no effect on
Unsupplied locations.

So, units within 4 hexes get a slight boost, adjacent units get a 1.5 boost. The boosts are for what the unit receives, so the map may show that the net could provide '42', but due to all the factors involved it may get less, then that number is boosted. It is not a supply point.


Copy, thanks. It gets a boost within the 4 hex radius, just not report on the supply net numbers. I need to get the supply unit adjacent to other units for the 1.5 boost.

Thanks.



Cmdr_Vessery -> RE: TGW AAR (3/23/2015 5:48:50 PM)

AGC / AGS update - Turn 59, 02AUG42

Panzer divisions have punched another hole in the Soviet line, and are encircling another large section of the Soviet defenses near Belgorod. Very open terrain for mobile forces to run amok.



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larryfulkerson -> RE: TGW AAR (3/23/2015 8:14:35 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Cmdr_Vessery
AGC / AGS update - Turn 59, 02AUG42

Panzer divisions have punched another hole in the Soviet line, and are encircling another large section of the Soviet defenses near Belgorod. Very open terrain for mobile forces to run amok.
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I see that you've punched a pretty good hole in the Soviet lines and everything but I don't see the horde of troops awaiting the
signal to pour through the hole. I do the same thing and it's rather frustrating to be able to make a good hole and then not
have the resources to take advantage of it. I guess I need to start planning better Get everybody working on the same team.
I'm getting older and starting to lose my ability to hold the entire "battlefield awareness" in my head and I find that I have to
slow down and review before starting something risky. Which is often. My turns per hour has gone down in the last few years.
But even played slower and more deliberately it's still fun.



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