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JocMeister -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (4/24/2016 2:33:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ny59giants quote: Still desperately short on DDs. I feel that way until about mid-43 when the Americans start pumping out about 8 to 10 DDs per month. It will be nice when you can afford to send about 8 or more Fletchers to India to help out. Double checking with my Swedish friend, but you do have a Corp and Command HQ prepping for those two bases?? [;)] Actually...No! They are prepping for something else. More on that later... [:)]

JocMeister -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (4/24/2016 2:34:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JeffK Its a long way from Japan though and he doesn´t get much in return for a huge investment. Besides Japan is ill suited for that kind of war. Not the best amphibious tools, not very good engineer capabilities for base expansion and a long way from the DEI fuel. This while the allies have prepared bases and proximity to both Balboa and NZ/OZ. Sometimes you do things, not to receive something but to take it away from your opponent. The IJN holds Alaska, parts of the Canadian coast, part of Australia, imagine if they were well suited for this kind of war. PS Fletchers are not super ships, just good DD's. A lot of their success is when they build up experience, dont commit them "assuming" they can take on the IJN. (Same goes for P47 & F4U) Yeah, the first batch of them doesn´t start out with very good experience. They are on their way to SOPAC to build up EXP bombarding Japanese bases. [:)]

JocMeister -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (4/25/2016 2:39:41 PM)
SIGINT _____________________________________________________________________________ Ah, this is new. quote: 4th Tank Regiment is planning for an attack on Victoria. 203rd Ship Eng Coy is planning for an attack on Astoria Already have an ID prepping for Victory as well as the 2nd Army HQ.

JocMeister -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (4/25/2016 2:44:38 PM)
India _____________________________________________________________________________ Attacks are going well at Silchar. I think 2 or possibly 3 more attack. quote: Ground combat at Silchar (59,39) Allied Deliberate attack Attacking force 58422 troops, 601 guns, 932 vehicles, Assault Value = 1991 Defending force 37764 troops, 400 guns, 96 vehicles, Assault Value = 888 Allied adjusted assault: 922 Japanese adjusted defense: 693 Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 1) Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 0 [&o] Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), preparation(-), fatigue(-) experience(-), supply(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 1901 casualties reported Squads: 11 destroyed, 167 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 20 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 14 disabled Allied ground losses: 636 casualties reported Squads: 15 destroyed, 139 disabled Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 27 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled Guns lost 20 (1 destroyed, 19 disabled) Vehicles lost 47 (12 destroyed, 35 disabled) At Chittagong the weather cleared allowing us to dish out another 1k casualties. Fleet will arrive shortly and start bombarding in preparation of the first attack. Jeff managed to sneak some supply in via DDs. I hope this bombardment blew through it. quote: Ground combat at Chittagong (55,41) Allied Bombardment attack Attacking force 83784 troops, 1383 guns, 985 vehicles, Assault Value = 2664 Defending force 75002 troops, 891 guns, 680 vehicles, Assault Value = 1869 Japanese ground losses: 11 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Vehicles lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled) Allied ground losses: 45 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled) I have 2 big OPs planned for late 42/early 43. One of them in India. But I need to clear Chittagong before I can move forward with that.

JocMeister -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (4/26/2016 2:59:06 PM)
22nd November -42 _____________________________________________________________________________ Very little to report. We have bounced quite a few turns lately. In India my bombers have been refusing to fly. Grounded for 2-3 days and then fly 1. No idea whats up. Frustrating. Fleet has left Colombo and will rebase at the new level 9 port at Madras. We sunk an enemy sub outside Calcutta last turn. I´m a bit weary about sending the ASW TFs out too often as Japanese SCTFs are prowling the waters. No new interesting SIGINT either. Lost Sian yesterday. Normally I just abandon it but I´m bound by a HR that prevents me to strat bomb in China throughout the war so I have to make sure the factories are destroyed. That is it for now!

BBfanboy -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (4/26/2016 6:14:48 PM)
Is November in the Monsoon season? That could give you weather that grounds your bombers for days.

ny59giants -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (4/26/2016 7:29:56 PM)
quote: In India my bombers have been refusing to fly. Grounded for 2-3 days and then fly 1. No idea whats up. Frustrating. In India/Burma, weather rules the skies!![:D] Otherwise, check the leader stats of the Air HQs they are attached to and see if they are close enough to the actual air groups. My American bombers are all assigned to 10th Air and I place the HQ close enough to the air groups with a good leader. Another is the AI thinking you don't have enough fighters on escort mission to protect them and stopped the missions (as long as the bombers don't have super aggressive leaders). Then again, the pilots may belong to a union that only permits flying a certain number of missions per month. [sm=00000289.gif]

BillBrown -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (4/26/2016 8:42:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BBfanboy Is November in the Monsoon season? That could give you weather that grounds your bombers for days. No, May 15 to October 15.

Lokasenna -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (4/27/2016 1:06:50 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ny59giants quote: In India my bombers have been refusing to fly. Grounded for 2-3 days and then fly 1. No idea whats up. Frustrating. In India/Burma, weather rules the skies!![:D] Otherwise, check the leader stats of the Air HQs they are attached to and see if they are close enough to the actual air groups. My American bombers are all assigned to 10th Air and I place the HQ close enough to the air groups with a good leader. Another is the AI thinking you don't have enough fighters on escort mission to protect them and stopped the missions (as long as the bombers don't have super aggressive leaders). Then again, the pilots may belong to a union that only permits flying a certain number of missions per month. [sm=00000289.gif] Could be CAP and refusing to fly into it...

JocMeister -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (4/27/2016 6:16:47 AM)
Not really sure what it is TBH. Shouldn´t be a "CAP" problem as the AF should be closed. Had a strange instant last turn when all the squadrons had removed their target so I thought that was the issue but no go after I reset it to Chittagong. I have two AirHQs at Calcutta. Both with good leaders. Most squadrons are tied to other AirHQs though. Starting to lean towards the union problem. Where is the button to have them shot? [:D]

JocMeister -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (4/28/2016 5:53:44 AM)
Deffo something with the weather at Calcutta. Set the bombers to different targets as well as sweeps. Nothing flew. Damn you weather! [:@]

JocMeister -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (4/29/2016 5:53:12 AM)
Sorry for the lack of updates. Havnt really been anything to report.

JocMeister -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (4/29/2016 6:06:48 AM)
27th November -42 _____________________________________________________________________________ Almost the end of the month... ------------------------ WC/NORPAC ------------------------ Jeff continues to bomb the outskirts of my CAP. He sets a few fires and that´s about it. ------------------------ SOPAC ------------------------ As the fleet refits I havn´t really done anything down here. A few days until we are done. The fleet will assemble south of Noumea and the operation to take back Ndeni will commence. There will be a lot of bombardments here mostly to train the fleet in night fighting. Jeff has stopped interfering with my shipping in the New Hebrides and base expansion is going well. I hope to launch my first big operation in late December down here. ------------------------ India ------------------------ Stalemate as I slowly grind down the defenders of Chittagong and Silchar. Another attack ordered at Silchar tomorrow. Lack of bombing on Chittagong is really annoying. Jeff managed to get more supply in again and no doubt his troops have recovered. Naval bombardments will commence shortly. Fleet has arrived at Madras. The 4 slow BBs are still in Colombo waiting for DDs to come of out refit.

JocMeister -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (4/29/2016 1:23:56 PM)
India _____________________________________________________________________________ Well this was a nice surprise! [&o] quote: Ground combat at Silchar (59,39) Allied Deliberate attack Attacking force 58782 troops, 587 guns, 941 vehicles, Assault Value = 2039 Defending force 34994 troops, 391 guns, 91 vehicles, Assault Value = 749 Allied adjusted assault: 1207 Japanese adjusted defense: 313 Allied assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 0) Allied forces CAPTURE Silchar !!! [&o] Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), leaders(-), disruption(-) preparation(-), fatigue(-), experience(-), supply(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 13203 casualties reported Squads: 183 destroyed, 52 disabled Non Combat: 332 destroyed, 72 disabled Engineers: 82 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 175 (163 destroyed, 12 disabled) Vehicles lost 34 (34 destroyed, 0 disabled) Units retreated 6 Allied ground losses: 347 casualties reported Squads: 15 destroyed, 70 disabled Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 33 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 22 disabled Guns lost 6 (3 destroyed, 3 disabled) Vehicles lost 95 (18 destroyed, 77 disabled) Defeated Japanese Units Retreating! Assaulting units: 632nd Tank Destroyer Battalion 19th Indian Division 637th Tank Destroyer Battalion 32nd Infantry Division 254th Armoured Brigade 39th Indian Division 9th Indian Division 14th Indian Division Eastern Army Burma Corps XV Indian Corps 1st Indian Light AA Regiment Defending units: 17th Indpt Guards Regiment 19th Division 25th Division 18th/A Division 2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 35th Field AA Battalion [image]local://upfiles/32406/8AAFEBCF433F43EF86CB762007419962.jpg[/image]

BBfanboy -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (4/29/2016 1:45:50 PM)
Wow - 3 to 1 odds and you hit him for 40 times the casualties! Never saw so many minus signs on one combat! [:D] Looks like you smashed a lot of his heavy artillery - the replacement pools for IJA big guns are very thin or none. Do you have any units in shape to pursue?

RangerJoe -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (4/29/2016 4:48:50 PM)
Very nice, over 30% casualties [sm=00000959.gif] and with the supply deficit, a lot of those disabled devices won't get easily repaired. You should shift your airpower to punish those units! [sm=00000436.gif]

JocMeister -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (4/29/2016 4:58:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BBfanboy Wow - 3 to 1 odds and you hit him for 40 times the casualties! Never saw so many minus signs on one combat! [:D] Looks like you smashed a lot of his heavy artillery - the replacement pools for IJA big guns are very thin or none. Do you have any units in shape to pursue? Yes and no. I have the troops but I don´t want to commit them into the Burma jungle as many of them are prepping for "the big one". Would take too long to pull them out when I need them. I´ll sift through India and see if I can dig something up that I can commit. [:)] quote: ORIGINAL: RangerJoe Very nice, over 30% casualties [sm=00000959.gif] and with the supply deficit, a lot of those disabled devices won't get easily repaired. You should shift your airpower to punish those units! [sm=00000436.gif] Normally I would but I need to evict the Japanese from Chittagong asap. So the bombers will continue to hit Chittagong for now. [:)]

JocMeister -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (4/29/2016 7:03:46 PM)
Battle for Chittagong _____________________________________________________________________________ Looks like we upped the ante quite a bit. This certainly suits me as I have superiority unless the KB shows up. I just wonder how many capital ships I will lose to Japanese SSNs before that though. Bay of Bengal is crawling with them. And unlike Japanese SSN I´m stuck with conventional diesel ones... [:(] quote: Sub attack near Akyab at 54,44 Japanese Ships BB Kirishima BB Kongo CA Ashigara DD Hatsuharu DD Kuri DD Asanagi Allied Ships SS Trout SS Trout launches 6 torpedoes at BB Kirishima Then the bombardments show up... quote: Night Naval bombardment of Chittagong at 55,41 Japanese Ships BB Kirishima BB Kongo CA Ashigara Allied ground losses: 322 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 23 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled Vehicles lost 5 (1 destroyed, 4 disabled) quote: Night Naval bombardment of Chittagong at 55,41 Japanese Ships CA Suzuya CA Takao CL Kinu CL Natori Allied ground losses: 112 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled quote: Night Naval bombardment of Chittagong at 55,41 Japanese Ships CA Suzuya CA Takao CL Kinu CL Natori Allied ground losses: 466 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 24 disabled Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 33 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Surprisingly the damage isn´t noticeable. [&:] Had to cross check with Jeffs CR just to verify the bombardments actually happened. Quite odd but I´ll take it. Looks like we are building up to a big naval battle for control of the sea outside Chittagong. Not going to shy away from that as I have quite a big superiority unless Jeff holds something back. With Force Z reinforced by Washington I feel quite confident to take on Kirisishima and Kongo even in a night battle. Jeff is not defenseless though and has superior subs, LBA and good nightfighting capabilities. My nightmare is losing a 3rd US fleet carrier to subs in this game. I have flooded the area with countless ASW TFs and have every single Patrol squadron + several bomber squadrons doing NavS/ASW in the area. Despite that I bet I´m going to lose at least 1 capital ship to subs in the coming days. No doubt a US CV. Mark my words. [image]local://upfiles/32406/E6B1D18A6372458BAC24F969CE0B2E5B.jpg[/image]

JocMeister -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (4/30/2016 5:32:42 AM)
India _____________________________________________________________________________ Here is a screen of the current situation. I would be amazed if this doesn´t end up with a huge naval battle. I´m confident but regret not devoting more naval LBA capabilities here. Most of my DBs are still on the WC and in SOPAC. Strangely enough we seem to control the skies. At least for now. Jeff has been really passive here. Dacca have already reached level 7 air field and most of the RAF fighters are based here sweeping Chittagong. Taking Silchar has opened up the rail from the rest of India which saves me a lot of time and walking between Calcutta and Dacca. At Chittagong the Japanese hold firm. Jeff managed to draw supply here and I´m doing my best to burn it again. My bombers are taking a bit of a beating but sometimes you have to break a few eggs. The fleet is moving in but I have to try and dodge all the SSNs currently flooding the Bay of Bengal. Once we are in position the CAs and slow BBs will start pummeling Chittagong while Force Z and the CVs provide cover. I had hoped to do my first deliberate attack here in a few days but that has been postponed until I have burned the supply and applied pressure to the troops again. New plan is to attack in about 14 days. Sadly it looks like my goal of clearing India before 42 is up wont hold. This has ramifications as the troops are needed elsewhere.

Lokasenna -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (5/1/2016 3:17:37 AM)
I think you had too much to drink!

BBfanboy -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (5/1/2016 4:21:58 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JocMeister Sadly it looks like my goal of clearing India before 42 is up wont hold. This has ramifications as the troops are needed elsewhere. It cuts both ways - India is a tar baby and he needs his troops to feed his greed, so keeping them tied up at Chittagong is probably more beneficial to you in the long run than having them go elsewhere to cause mischief.

JocMeister -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (5/1/2016 5:59:10 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lokasenna I think you had too much to drink! Bollocks! There is no such thing as "too much to drink". [:'(] quote: ORIGINAL: BBfanboy It cuts both ways - India is a tar baby and he needs his troops to feed his greed, so keeping them tied up at Chittagong is probably more beneficial to you in the long run than having them go elsewhere to cause mischief. You are right and normally I would be quite happy with the situation. But I need those troops yesterday! [:)]

JocMeister -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (5/1/2016 1:29:19 PM)
Not sure I can bring myself to continue playing when the only ASW with any kind of effect is leaving the CVs in port. I´ve had enough of this. quote: Sub attack near Coffs Harbour at 95,164 Japanese Ships SS I-171 Allied Ships CV Wasp, Torpedo hits 2, heavy damage CL Perth CLAA Juneau CLAA Atlanta DD Le Triomphant DD McCall DD Gridley DD Lardner SS I-171 launches 4 torpedoes at CV Wasp DD Le Triomphant fails to find sub, continues to search... DD McCall fails to find sub and abandons search DD Gridley fails to find sub and abandons search DD Lardner fails to find sub and abandons search Escort abandons search for sub -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Coffs Harbour at 95,164 Japanese Ships SS I-170 Allied Ships CV Wasp, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage CL Perth CL Sumatra CLAA Juneau CLAA Atlanta DD Lansdowne DD Le Triomphant DD McCall DD Gridley DD Lardner

JocMeister -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (5/1/2016 2:25:38 PM)
Told Jeff the turn will be a while. Need a break from this.

mind_messing -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (5/1/2016 3:15:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JocMeister Told Jeff the turn will be a while. Need a break from this. We've all had those kinda turns! As the Allies, open the ship reinforcement ledger, filter it to show CV/CVL/CVE. As Japan, open the aircraft database and look at the jet fighters. Then cry, as you'll have your industry bombed before you'll ever see them.

JocMeister -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (5/1/2016 3:35:36 PM)
Its not about the actually loss but Japanese subs ability to completely disregard any and all ASW effort. I had 12 CATs + 24 Hudsons doing NavS over the TF. All TBs/DBs where doing 50 NavS/20ASW. Long Island had 15 TBs doing ASW. I had 4 ASW TFs in the same hex. 2 leading and 2 trailing. The TF had 64 ASW value in itself. And they could just as well have not been there. Absolutely silly. Just as when I lost Ent. Its a joke and a bad one. Whats the point of even trying if the only thing you can do is leave your CVs in port? Every time I move my CVs I get a lump in my throat because I know that regardless of what I do my CVs are completely defenseless against Japanese subs. It doesnt matter if I have good leaders, good training and make every effort to avoid his subs the just magically pop up in the middle of the CV. All Jeff has to do is to get a sub in the same hex as an Allied CV and its a done deal. If my subs where doing half as good half of KB would have been gone by now. Sick of it.

BBfanboy -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (5/1/2016 4:43:48 PM)
Out of curiosity, what altitude are your Nav Search aircraft using? I find 6K too high to spot subs, but 2K works fine. I run some high NavS if there is a possibility of enemy combat ships plus the lower ones for subs. ASW patrol goes at 1000 feet.

Mike McCreery -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (5/1/2016 4:45:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JocMeister Its not about the actually loss but Japanese subs ability to completely disregard any and all ASW effort. I had 12 CATs + 24 Hudsons doing NavS over the TF. All TBs/DBs where doing 50 NavS/20ASW. Long Island had 15 TBs doing ASW. I had 4 ASW TFs in the same hex. 2 leading and 2 trailing. The TF had 64 ASW value in itself. And they could just as well have not been there. Absolutely silly. Just as when I lost Ent. Its a joke and a bad one. Whats the point of even trying if the only thing you can do is leave your CVs in port? Every time I move my CVs I get a lump in my throat because I know that regardless of what I do my CVs are completely defenseless against Japanese subs. It doesnt matter if I have good leaders, good training and make every effort to avoid his subs the just magically pop up in the middle of the CV. All Jeff has to do is to get a sub in the same hex as an Allied CV and its a done deal. If my subs where doing half as good half of KB would have been gone by now. Sick of it. How much of your air search was set to night patrol?

JocMeister -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (5/1/2016 4:57:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BBfanboy Out of curiosity, what altitude are your Nav Search aircraft using? I find 6K too high to spot subs, but 2K works fine. I run some high NavS if there is a possibility of enemy combat ships plus the lower ones for subs. ASW patrol goes at 1000 feet. The Patrols where at 6k, Long Island TBs at 4k. The squadrons on the CVs at 10. quote: ORIGINAL: Wargmr How much of your air search was set to night patrol? 1 of the Hudsons LRs squadrons and 1 of the CV TB squadrons.

BBfanboy -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (5/1/2016 5:07:26 PM)
4K altitude is still too high to consistently spot subs. During the day they are submerged and all you spot is a periscope, so you need to be quite low. At night, 4K is too high to spot anything too.

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