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Speedysteve -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (5/21/2016 2:15:56 PM)

In short it's not based on what faced what historically chronologically more so what was the tanks equivalent in history and that is placed in the nations tech tree at equivalent tier



Speedysteve -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (5/21/2016 8:30:58 PM)

Know this is a WOT thing but I had to post it here since I've literally had tears of laughter watching this. Watch the Hitler video that someone subtitled at the bottom of this forum topic page. The context is that WOT has artillery in it and some players hate it since you're in tanks and can get blown up by an enemy unseen. It causes many to rage! This video was made in that context. I love it:

http://forum-console.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/137848-add-my-name-to-the-list-who-think-artillery-is-ruining-the-game/



JocMeister -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (5/22/2016 6:08:50 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Speedy

Know this is a WOT thing but I had to post it here since I've literally had tears of laughter watching this. Watch the Hitler video that someone subtitled at the bottom of this forum topic page. The context is that WOT has artillery in it and some players hate it since you're in tanks and can get blown up by an enemy unseen. It causes many to rage! This video was made in that context. I love it:

http://forum-console.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/137848-add-my-name-to-the-list-who-think-artillery-is-ruining-the-game/


[:D]



JocMeister -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (5/23/2016 4:16:21 PM)

India
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We are closing on the last few days of 1942. Another attack at Chittagong.

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Ground combat at Chittagong (55,41)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 69252 troops, 1153 guns, 1185 vehicles, Assault Value = 2687

Defending force 54549 troops, 787 guns, 376 vehicles, Assault Value = 1272

Allied adjusted assault: 816

Japanese adjusted defense: 692

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 2)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: disruption(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
2832 casualties reported
Squads: 76 destroyed, 26 disabled
Non Combat: 10 destroyed, 84 disabled
Engineers: 11 destroyed, 17 disabled
Guns lost 83 (29 destroyed, 54 disabled)
Vehicles lost 49 (12 destroyed, 37 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
1455 casualties reported
Squads: 32 destroyed, 133 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 28 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Vehicles lost 42 (9 destroyed, 33 disabled)


I think we got a bad roll here. Going to try again in 2 days. Also managed to sink another 3 DDs outside Chittagong. Nice.




JocMeister -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (5/23/2016 4:26:01 PM)

SIGINT
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9th Division is planning for an attack on Vancouver.


There are now 2 divisions and an Air Fleet prepping for Vancouver. Two more divisions + armor and several regiments prepping for Victoria.

Doesnīt make much sense to me though. [&:]



Speedysteve -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (5/23/2016 5:51:06 PM)

Do you think it's all smoke and mirrors or serious and genuine?



JocMeister -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (5/23/2016 6:11:35 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Speedy

Do you think it's all smoke and mirrors or serious and genuine?


Considering the targets I think this is fake. Taking Victoria and/or Vancouver at this point makes no sense? Right?



BBfanboy -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (5/23/2016 6:25:25 PM)


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ORIGINAL: JocMeister


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ORIGINAL: Speedy

Do you think it's all smoke and mirrors or serious and genuine?


Considering the targets I think this is fake. Taking Victoria and/or Vancouver at this point makes no sense? Right?

Normally I would agree with this assessment, but the buildup in Hawaii and the Aleutians has been going on for some time with a lot of SIGINT on a lot of units indicating firm preparation for West Coast targets. And he has brought a lot of transports to Hawaii with those troops but no indications of them going elsewhere after unloading (unless you are not posting sub encounters with them).

Even if he thinks he cannot get an auto-victory now, he can get a lot of strat bombing points from Vancouver and Victoria which will prevent any allied auto-victory later on.



Lokasenna -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (5/23/2016 7:25:11 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy


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ORIGINAL: JocMeister


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ORIGINAL: Speedy

Do you think it's all smoke and mirrors or serious and genuine?


Considering the targets I think this is fake. Taking Victoria and/or Vancouver at this point makes no sense? Right?

Normally I would agree with this assessment, but the buildup in Hawaii and the Aleutians has been going on for some time with a lot of SIGINT on a lot of units indicating firm preparation for West Coast targets. And he has brought a lot of transports to Hawaii with those troops but no indications of them going elsewhere after unloading (unless you are not posting sub encounters with them).

Even if he thinks he cannot get an auto-victory now, he can get a lot of strat bombing points from Vancouver and Victoria which will prevent any allied auto-victory later on.


You don't get strategic points for industry that is destroyed when the base is captured - only from bombing/bombardments.



BBfanboy -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (5/23/2016 8:22:45 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna


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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy


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ORIGINAL: JocMeister


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ORIGINAL: Speedy

Do you think it's all smoke and mirrors or serious and genuine?


Considering the targets I think this is fake. Taking Victoria and/or Vancouver at this point makes no sense? Right?

Normally I would agree with this assessment, but the buildup in Hawaii and the Aleutians has been going on for some time with a lot of SIGINT on a lot of units indicating firm preparation for West Coast targets. And he has brought a lot of transports to Hawaii with those troops but no indications of them going elsewhere after unloading (unless you are not posting sub encounters with them).

Even if he thinks he cannot get an auto-victory now, he can get a lot of strat bombing points from Vancouver and Victoria which will prevent any allied auto-victory later on.


You don't get strategic points for industry that is destroyed when the base is captured - only from bombing/bombardments.

Yes - that is why I said strat bombing points rather than industry capture.



Lokasenna -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (5/23/2016 9:11:14 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

Yes - that is why I said strat bombing points rather than industry capture.


I thought you were referring to him getting points because he was prepping units for those targets, and then taking them...and getting points from the taking.



JocMeister -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (5/24/2016 4:46:28 PM)

Not sure if taking Victoria and/or Vancouver would help him much in a strat bombing campaign. He would activate the emergency reinforcements and he would have to hang on to them. Especially Vancouver would be tough against all the WC restricted allied units.

I think its a rouse. For what purpose I donīt know. To be honest I canīt really understand what he is doing. He has now something like 10-12 divisions + 2 tank divisions spread out between PH, NORPAC and Alaska. By doing this he has given away SOPAC and more importantly Burma.

Only thing that makes sense is a move against the WC. But that is just mad.



JocMeister -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (5/24/2016 4:47:23 PM)

PS. Turns have been extremely slow due to computer issues on Jeffs end.



Canoerebel -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (5/24/2016 5:49:46 PM)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpl4wkWMJtE



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catwhoorg -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (5/24/2016 11:49:28 PM)


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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

PS. Turns have been extremely slow due to computer issues on Jeffs end.


Win 10 or something else ?



JocMeister -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (5/25/2016 4:36:43 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpl4wkWMJtE
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[:D]


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ORIGINAL: catwhoorg


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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

PS. Turns have been extremely slow due to computer issues on Jeffs end.


Win 10 or something else ?


I think he was upgrading to Win 10 and that caused some issues with his computer. I wonīt be updating for quite some time. Still running Win7 Ultimate. [:)]



catwhoorg -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (5/25/2016 11:33:45 PM)

I just had to save my wifes PC from that stupid MS "focred update" by closing the dialogue box.

That happens on a critical piece of equipment, and literally someone could die. MS is being stupid, bigtime stupid.



CaptBeefheart -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (5/26/2016 2:23:15 AM)

Alas, I'm on the North American server for WOT and WOWs (and I take it you're on the Euro one). Would be great to roll a few with you, Joc.

Cheers,
CC



Corbinn -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (5/26/2016 9:28:43 PM)

catwhoorg,

If you haven't already, google "never10". Made by Gibson Research. It's a simple program I have found in the last week that can disable the Windows 10 upgrade. Simply download and run the program. There will be one, or two buttons depending. One to disable / enable the Windows 10 upgrade, and if present a second button to delete any files for Windows 10 that have been downloaded. If you decide later to upgrade to Windows 10 you can just re-run the application to enable the upgrade.

There isn't any persistant program that does this, it just simply changes a group policy in the registry to not allow Win 7 / 8 systems to upgrade.

Hope that helps!

Sorry to hijack the thread.

BTW Joc, love the AAR, been reading your stuff for quite a while. Keep up the great work!



catwhoorg -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (5/27/2016 1:24:45 AM)

Corbinn,

Thanks for that pointer.



JocMeister -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (6/1/2016 4:40:40 PM)

Page 2...ooops. [:D]

Anyway. We are approaching the end of 42. If things go to plan I will try and do a year report during the weekend and then Iīll try to return to somewhat regular updates. Regular everyday updates with screens and stuff might not happen until after summer though. Hectic schedule during the last 4 weeks before vacation and then...vacation. [:)]

Stay tuned for the weekend update. [:)]



JocMeister -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (6/1/2016 7:11:06 PM)

Invasion Canada?
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This just popped up via SIGINT....

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6/12th Division is planning for an attack on Victoria.
11/1st Division is planning for an attack on Victoria.


1st Division was confirmed at Adak less then a month ago.
12th Division is completely unknown to me. I have some SIGINT several months old from Mukhden(?). Since its aboard ships its 100% confirmed bought out now at least.

We now have a full army prepping for Victoria including an Army HQ, 3 divisions, 1 tank RGT, 1 raiding RGTs several BFs and arty units.

This continues to make no sense.



BillBrown -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (6/1/2016 7:51:40 PM)

Do you think he might land somewhere else on the West Coast and attack with low prep? If he is at 100 now for
Victoria, he can change at the last minute and have 25 prep.



Lokasenna -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (6/1/2016 7:59:17 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BillBrown

Do you think he might land somewhere else on the West Coast and attack with low prep? If he is at 100 now for
Victoria, he can change at the last minute and have 25 prep.


And suffer a gazillion casualties on the beach. I've lost 50% of a division to an undefended beach before, because of lack of prep. If the landing site is defended and he goes in with only 25% prep - may the God-Emperor help his troops, 'cause they're gonna be dead in a week.



JocMeister -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (6/1/2016 8:15:34 PM)

Yeah, as Loka says trying to land somewhere without 100% prepp is pretty much suicide. So that is highly unlikely. Not really sure what Jeff is up for but something is definitively happening right now.

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12/6th Guards Division is loaded on xAK Liverpool Maru at Pearl Harbor (180,107).
13/4th Division is loaded on xAK Yasukawa Maru at Pearl Harbor (180,107).
Heavy Volume of Radio transmissions detected at Pearl Harbor (180,107).
Heavy Volume of Radio transmissions detected at Dutch Harbor (171,50).


Funny thing is 6th Guards were planning for Noumea less then a month ago. The planning is obviously fake or sloppiness. Why move them to PH if he intends to try and take Noumea?



Lokasenna -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (6/1/2016 8:54:44 PM)


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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

Yeah, as Loka says trying to land somewhere without 100% prepp is pretty much suicide. So that is highly unlikely. Not really sure what Jeff is up for but something is definitively happening right now.

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12/6th Guards Division is loaded on xAK Liverpool Maru at Pearl Harbor (180,107).
13/4th Division is loaded on xAK Yasukawa Maru at Pearl Harbor (180,107).
Heavy Volume of Radio transmissions detected at Pearl Harbor (180,107).
Heavy Volume of Radio transmissions detected at Dutch Harbor (171,50).


Funny thing is 6th Guards were planning for Noumea less then a month ago. The planning is obviously fake or sloppiness. Why move them to PH if he intends to try and take Noumea?


Hypothetically, a mega convoy with multiple purposes to save on fuel? It's not actually that far out of the way, assuming an origin point of somewhere in Japan.



tiemanjw -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (6/2/2016 4:52:03 PM)

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And suffer a gazillion casualties on the beach. I've lost 50% of a division to an undefended beach before, because of lack of prep. If the landing site is defended and he goes in with only 25% prep - may the God-Emperor help his troops, 'cause they're gonna be dead in a week.



There are a few things he can do with limited / no prep. If the base is undefended, anything can take it (even at 0 prep), then land what ever you want behind it. Even a defended base can be attacked, though at much higher cost. Still may be worth it though to have you out of position.
Also, you can reduce landing casualties by landing with 1 unit (prep or no with the applicable penalties) than sliding ships with other units into the unloading TF. It takes an extra day, but can be useful when you want to land a floating area reserve as the allies (for example if assaulting 3 bases in the Gilberts you bring along an extra division with 100% prep for anything... when you find that one base being a pain in the neck switch prep to that base (getting 25-33% points), than merge the ships carrying that unit into the unit unloading on the beach you want to hit. It will still take a hit when landing, but no where near as bad as if you just landed it directly).




JocMeister -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (6/2/2016 5:21:17 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna
Hypothetically, a mega convoy with multiple purposes to save on fuel? It's not actually that far out of the way, assuming an origin point of somewhere in Japan.


Too lazy to look it up but if I remember correctly the 6th Guards show up at Cam Rahn Bay? If so going via PH is a quite a strange route?



Lokasenna -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (6/2/2016 6:36:38 PM)


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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna
Hypothetically, a mega convoy with multiple purposes to save on fuel? It's not actually that far out of the way, assuming an origin point of somewhere in Japan.


Too lazy to look it up but if I remember correctly the 6th Guards show up at Cam Rahn Bay? If so going via PH is a quite a strange route?


The Guards Tank arrives in CRB. I'm not sure about the 6th Guards. I know that some Guards units arrive in Japan, but you are correct in thinking that several arrive in SE Asia (because they do).



JocMeister -> RE: Canada and India invaded! (6/3/2016 2:46:37 PM)

Invasion Canada?
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I donīt really think there can be much more doubt.

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3/2nd Division is loaded on AK Tenshinsan Maru moving to Victoria.
4/48th/B Division is planning for an attack on Prince Rupert.
5/2nd Division is loaded on AK Onoe Maru moving to Victoria.
4/16th Division is planning for an attack on Prince Rupert.
2/9th Division is planning for an attack on Vancouver.


Its makes sense in a way. It explains all the odd things Jeff has been doing for the last few months. But it doesnīt make sense because it doesnīt make any sense whatsoever. There is simply no point in taking Victory and/or Vancouver at this point. It doesnīt give him anything. I canīt stop him from grabbing Victory as I purposely didnīt reinforce it very much. Just added a Canadian BDE and built some forts. So he will gain a few VPs from the troops and industry there.

But in exchange he will trigger the Emergency reinforcements...and Vancouver. Not much there even if he can take it. A few VPs and 3 Catalina factories. He is not going to trigger the reinforcements for this little gain. And where are the remaining 10 divisions?

Interesting turns ahead I think!



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