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jmalter -> RE: Invasion West Coast! (7/17/2016 7:02:50 PM)
hi JM, welcome back from your family vacation, those are good times, even if the weather wasn't the best. quote: ORIGINAL: JocMeister A big failure and he will have to pack up and leave. He can´t stay for a long siege. Wow, if you get a NavSearch sniff that he's trying to evacuate, that's when you should give a maximum effort against naval targets. Limit your bombers' range so they attack his shipping in coastal hexes - you don't need to run up against CV or Surf forces, but should try to ruin his AP/AK ships.

JocMeister -> RE: Invasion West Coast! (7/17/2016 7:11:46 PM)
No turn today. Jeff told I should have it for tomorrow morning. He also warned me pace will slow down for a while as he is feeling its a bit too much to handle right now with two games and two AARs. He will also scale back a little on the AAR for this game. His other game should be finished withing a couple of months though and he said we will be back to normal pace then. I certainly know the feeling as I recently suffered the same kind of exhaustion. Its inevitable when you play a game that demands such a tremendous amount of dedication. I also knew when Jeff took over this game that this one would always come in second. I have WoT and other stuff to fill my time with. [:)]

Bullwinkle58 -> RE: Invasion West Coast! (7/17/2016 8:01:48 PM)
Regarding whether you should "let him off the mat" . . . I agree with others that you should go for the win--always--in AE. He's a big boy and he chose to do a 1943 WC operation. Believe me, he got a lot of advice in his AAR. It's been interesting and informative for readers on both sides. It remains to be seen how the WC finally shakes out, but once it does, most likely without an auto-victory, he has to withdraw in some way and you have to address that in some way. At the same time the war continues across the rest of the map. Letting him off easy in order to allow him to re-group enough to run a conventional remaining war just re-plows frequently visited ground found in myriad other AARs. Instead, here, you have the opportunity to explore a 1943-1944 war with him severely imbalanced geographically as well as wounded on an LCU basis. In particular he has to decide how to handle the future of PH after this operation. What's it worth in terms of logistics after he has expended so much on the WC? In the balance of the map you have to chance to see just how fast and violently the Allies can move when Japan has flowed so much capacity east. You don't have to slog into Burma for example. You have the chance to perhaps move right onto the western Malaysian coast and drive on Singers. Or go directly against his oil a year early. Many other options. Auto-victory works for both sides.

CaptBeefheart -> RE: Invasion West Coast! (7/18/2016 3:48:59 AM)
Welcome back from vacation. I think you owe it out of respect to your opponent, and this forum, to prosecute the war to the best of your ability. DEI, here we come! Cheers, CC

JocMeister -> RE: Invasion West Coast! (7/18/2016 6:11:34 AM)
Turn didn´t show up this morning. Not sure what happened. Either Jeff forgot to send it or somehow didn´t finish it. Hopefully later today then... I´ll give it a thought after Pencil II is over and see how things look. I don´t know. I just don´t see the enjoyment of ending the game in 43 while Canada, NORPAC and the entire CENTPAC including Pearl Harbor is still in Japanese hands.

JocMeister -> RE: Invasion West Coast! (7/18/2016 5:48:49 PM)
Airlosses _____________________________________________________________________________ Finally got the turn. Good day in the air. Mostly in SEA though. Not much air combat on the WC. [image]local://upfiles/32406/1B22F943F686402DA7DC8FF98050B739.jpg[/image]

JocMeister -> RE: Invasion West Coast! (7/18/2016 5:52:45 PM)
Shiplosses _____________________________________________________________________________ Ashigara not listed although she was the most heavily damaged. Seriously doubt she either she or Takao can make it unless already sunk. [image]local://upfiles/32406/570D2324E9284545AA1704E0AF70DCB1.jpg[/image]

JocMeister -> RE: Invasion West Coast! (7/18/2016 5:59:53 PM)
Next turn _____________________________________________________________________________ P47s are ready to sweep again. Troops can attack again at LA. We should capture Port Blair. CAs will hunt for cripples in SEA. Should be lots of action next turn as well. [:)] We shall also try and strike 3 convoys at Santa Barbara. Probably leaving BFs and/or reinforcing. Won´t start with the turn until tomorrow though. Too tired today.

BBfanboy -> RE: Invasion West Coast! (7/18/2016 6:04:09 PM)
I think the CA on that list is misidentified - it should be Ashigara. Takao may have survived the five bombs and four small shells she took - I have seen the Atago class CVs survive with up to seven X 1000 pound bombs. I give her 50/50 odds. Even if she didn't sink she is out for at least five months, and collecting a CA, CL and Kagero DD sunk against loss of a DD is great results!

JocMeister -> RE: Invasion West Coast! (7/19/2016 8:10:25 AM)
Turn is away to Jeff. Hopefully I´ll get the replay back today. Should be eventful!

JocMeister -> RE: Invasion West Coast! (7/19/2016 6:40:33 PM)
January 20th 1943 _____________________________________________________________________________ An awesome turn. Until I double checked with the CR and found out if wasn´t all that good really. We updated to the latest beta last turn and was hit with huge syncproblems. Dang. Lets start with the WC shall we. ------------------------ West Coast ------------------------ Subs have a good day here today. It was a fantastic day in my replay hitting 2 BBs and sinking a damaged CA. Instead we have to settle for small fish. quote: Sub attack near San Diego at 225,79 Japanese Ships AKE Toyama Maru, Torpedo hits 2, heavy damage CA Mogami, heavy damage PB Tonon Maru PB Heiei Maru #7 PB Toko Maru #4 PB Nako Maru #2 PB Okiyu Maru Allied Ships SS Sunfish quote: Sub attack near Santa Barbara at 223,76 Japanese Ships DD Makigumo, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage DD Ariake Allied Ships SS S-30, hits 5, heavy damage quote: Sub attack near Balikpapan at 64,98 Japanese Ships PB Hakkaisan Maru, Torpedo hits 2, heavy damage PB Kosin Maru #3 Allied Ships SS Amberjack Meh... Japanese bombard SD both from sea and air to little effect. My sweeps hit nothing and the huge convoy at Santa Barbara is gone. Then comes a really bummer moment. quote: Ground combat at Los Angeles (225,76) Allied Deliberate attack Attacking force 26099 troops, 580 guns, 632 vehicles, Assault Value = 3480 Defending force 66236 troops, 875 guns, 813 vehicles, Assault Value = 1514 Allied adjusted assault: 133 Japanese adjusted defense: 4665 Allied assault odds: 1 to 35 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 135 casualties reported Squads: 2 destroyed, 7 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled Guns lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled) Vehicles lost 9 (1 destroyed, 8 disabled) Allied ground losses: 4199 casualties reported Squads: 120 destroyed, 172 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 78 disabled Engineers: 7 destroyed, 38 disabled Guns lost 104 (2 destroyed, 102 disabled) Vehicles lost 52 (5 destroyed, 47 disabled) [X(][X(][X(] Had a mid turn save and went back to check my setting. No clue what I did but only 2 divisions where set to attack with the others in reserve. F...[sm=00000734.gif] So now I wrecked the two motorized divisions...and they are PERM restricted so I can´t even buy them out cheap. [image]local://upfiles/32406/78D43B3C9D7641249E3E1A3F66768F7B.jpg[/image]

JocMeister -> RE: Invasion West Coast! (7/19/2016 6:47:25 PM)
This was my face when I saw the LA attack... [image]local://upfiles/32406/692677B000FF45ADAAFDB73128B20359.jpg[/image]

JocMeister -> RE: Invasion West Coast! (7/19/2016 6:56:33 PM)
Pencil _____________________________________________________________________________ Another day on the job here. I have overstayed my welcome though... quote: Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Port Blair at 46,58 Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid detected at 70 NM, estimated altitude 29,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 27 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 23 G3M2 Nell x 15 Allied aircraft Martlet II x 11 F4F-3 Wildcat x 11 F4F-4 Wildcat x 6 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed G3M2 Nell: 2 damaged G3M2 Nell: 1 destroyed by flak Allied aircraft losses Martlet II: 1 destroyed Allied Ships CA Dorsetshire xAP Duchess of Bedford xAP Lancashire CA Cornwall xAP Dunera, Torpedo hits 1 There was numerous attacks on various TFs. All penetrated CAP including two attacks by Nells on my CA TFs. Luckily we evade all hits. Its clear though that my CAP is spent. Time to pull back. In my replay we captured Port Blair and Little Adaman. In reality with only captured Little Adaman though. So no LBA CAP tomorrow. Which means I will pull out and return later. PB should be safely captured tomorrow. quote: Ground combat at Port Blair (46,58) Allied Deliberate attack Attacking force 8838 troops, 28 guns, 61 vehicles, Assault Value = 686 Defending force 5012 troops, 31 guns, 3 vehicles, Assault Value = 77 Allied adjusted assault: 563 Japanese adjusted defense: 119 Allied assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 3) Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 2 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), forts(+) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 353 casualties reported Squads: 2 destroyed, 29 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Allied ground losses: 355 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 66 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Assaulting units: 19th Indian Division 14th Indian Division 101st RAF Base Force 108th RAF Base Force 3rd (Special Force) Division Defending units: Kure 5th SNLF 21st Air Flotilla 22nd Special Base Force 84th JAAF AF Bn The CAs will bombard tomorrow and a shock attack will be ordered. That should do it. None of the previously damaged ship were found by my chasers. I gambled they went south but they might have turned towards Rangoon instead and escaped. There are a ton of Japanese subs in the area and my ASW TFs are running low on ammo. So we will pull out tomorrow. [image]local://upfiles/32406/DC3C327D806B49A9B6AA5FD883A2634D.jpg[/image]

JohnDillworth -> RE: Invasion West Coast! (7/19/2016 7:09:30 PM)
2 torps on a badly needed AKE good day. He doesn't have many, and needs all of them. Did you hit another one of these a while back?

BBfanboy -> RE: Invasion West Coast! (7/19/2016 8:30:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JocMeister This was my face when I saw the LA attack... [image]local://upfiles/32406/692677B000FF45ADAAFDB73128B20359.jpg[/image] Yuck! - at the results, not the caricature. Wondering if you used the buttons for "Set all to this combat orders". I have seen fairly often that not all the units obey that command so I scroll through unit by unit to make sure the setting is correct after I do this. Only thing I can think of as I am sure you would not forget to give orders to all your units, even when you are tired.

Bullwinkle58 -> RE: Invasion West Coast! (7/19/2016 8:40:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JocMeister This was my face when I saw the LA attack... [image]local://upfiles/32406/692677B000FF45ADAAFDB73128B20359.jpg[/image] 1 to 35 odds. Ouch. I'm not sure, coulda been dreaming, can't say, might be wrong . . . . . . but didn't somebody say "Don't attack at LA. Let him come at you behind the forts you so expensively built"? And that person was promptly shouted down by the Maneuver War brigade? 1 to 35. Sheesh. If you'd have had the whole LA stack attack might it have been 1 to 10?

JocMeister -> RE: Invasion West Coast! (7/20/2016 5:47:35 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JohnDillworth 2 torps on a badly needed AKE good day. He doesn't have many, and needs all of them. Did you hit another one of these a while back? Sadly I think this was the same AKE previously damaged. It was burning pretty badly before being hit by the first torpedo. quote: ORIGINAL: BBfanboy Yuck! - at the results, not the caricature. Wondering if you used the buttons for "Set all to this combat orders". I have seen fairly often that not all the units obey that command so I scroll through unit by unit to make sure the setting is correct after I do this. Only thing I can think of as I am sure you would not forget to give orders to all your units, even when you are tired. Indeed I did. And I didn´t double check which was very stupid of me. Something kept most of the units in "reserve" despite me telling them all to change to "combat". But only the two Motorized divisions did. When I then set all to attack the troops in reserve obviously didn´t. Bad mistake on my part. quote: ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58 1 to 35 odds. Ouch. I'm not sure, coulda been dreaming, can't say, might be wrong . . . . . . but didn't somebody say "Don't attack at LA. Let him come at you behind the forts you so expensively built"? And that person was promptly shouted down by the Maneuver War brigade? 1 to 35. Sheesh. If you'd have had the whole LA stack attack might it have been 1 to 10? Hehe, yeah you did. Problem with letting him come to me in LA is that he is never going to attack there though. He doesn´t even have half the raw AV. Its x3 terrain and he knows for sure there are forts there. Just not how many. So he is not going to attack. He is just trying (successfully) to block me in. I´ll attack again next turn. I´ll grind him down eventually as I can recover and cycle troops in and out. He can´t. [:)]

JocMeister -> RE: Invasion West Coast! (7/20/2016 5:54:48 AM)
San Diego _____________________________________________________________________________ Jeff turned his attention fully to SD this turn. Two BB bombardments did very little damage. This was followed up by strat bombing. That is good news for me. quote: Morning Air attack on San Diego , at 227,78 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 119 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 47 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zero x 20 G3M2 Nell x 27 G4M1 Betty x 29 Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 10 Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 5 Japanese aircraft losses G3M2 Nell: 1 damaged G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged Manpower hits 23 Fires 3276 This is no danger for me right now. Even if he burns down the AC factories they can be rebuilt. This also adds more work for his already struggling fighter force. P47s didn´t fly yesterday probably due to weather. Tomorrow will be another tough day for the Japanese in the air I hope... Another bombardment not going well for the Japanese! [:)] quote: Ground combat at San Diego (227,78) Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 930 troops, 119 guns, 104 vehicles, Assault Value = 2146 Defending force 56101 troops, 790 guns, 639 vehicles, Assault Value = 1392 Japanese ground losses: Guns lost 50 (39 destroyed, 11 disabled) Vehicles lost 27 (21 destroyed, 6 disabled) Units destroyed 1 Assaulting units: 1st Tank Division 21st Division 5th Guards Division 48th/A Division 14th Division 48th/B Division 2nd Division 48th/C Division 8th Area Army 23rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment 31st Air Defense AA Battalion 1st Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 3rd Hvy.Artillery Regiment 1st Art.Mortar Regiment 2nd Hvy.Artillery Rgt /1 15th Medium FA Rgt /1 15th Ind.Art.Mortar Bn /1 2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion 9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Bn /1 Defending units: 22nd Marine Regiment 37th Infantry Division 25th Infantry Division 43rd Infantry Division 192nd Tank Battalion 31st Infantry Rgt /1 11th Naval District 14th Marine Defense Battalion 30th Field Artillery Regiment San Diego USN Base Force Camp Pendleton Base Force Camp Pendleton SD Harbor Defense ComAirFMFPac

obvert -> RE: Invasion West Coast! (7/20/2016 9:34:20 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JohnDillworth 2 torps on a badly needed AKE good day. He doesn't have many, and needs all of them. Did you hit another one of these a while back? They're essentially just xAK. As Japan you can convert all of several classes to them if you want. So really they're 10-12 VPs. but useful to hit them when you can as in theatre he may not have enough.

JocMeister -> RE: Invasion West Coast! (7/20/2016 9:43:32 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: obvert They're essentially just xAK. As Japan you can convert all of several classes to them if you want. So really they're 10-12 VPs. but useful to hit them when you can as in theatre he may not have enough. Sadly I think he brought all of them with him to the WC...[:)] quote: ASW attack near Camp Pendleton at 226,77 Japanese Ships PB Nichi Maru #1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage PB Seikai Maru PB Unkai Maru #1 PB Takunan Maru #8 AS Yasukuni Maru AD Shintoku Maru AD Ryotaku Maru AG Hoshi Maru AG Juyo Maru AK Nitti Maru AKV Tensin Maru AKV India Maru AKV Holland Maru AKE Miyatama Maru AKE Mansei Maru AKE Norfolk Maru AKE Hauraki Maru AKE Dakar Maru AKE Teihoku Maru AKE Turuga Maru AKE Matumoto Maru AKE Koto Maru AKE Taito Maru AKE Kashino xAP Teison Maru xAP Teifu Maru xAP Kasado Maru xAP Tsingtao Maru xAP Manzyu Maru xAP Kokuryu Maru xAP Haruna Maru xAP Teia Maru xAK Hokuriku Maru DD Natsushio DD Susuzuki E Kasasagi E Ishigaki Allied Ships SS S-45, hits 6 The usual sub attack on a PB rather then something important.

obvert -> RE: Invasion West Coast! (7/20/2016 9:49:11 AM)
yeah that should be enough! [:D] Won't probably help him much with SD though. You've played this well.

JocMeister -> RE: Invasion West Coast! (7/20/2016 9:57:42 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: obvert yeah that should be enough! [:D] Won't probably help him much with SD though. You've played this well. Thanks. A lot of luck though. [:)] Without that 10/10 DL on the sub he would have cut the rail before the strat reserve was railed in...[X(]

Lokasenna -> RE: Invasion West Coast! (7/20/2016 5:24:09 PM)
That's nowhere near 'all' [:'(]

ny59giants -> RE: Invasion West Coast! (7/20/2016 6:21:21 PM)
This game may have Allied players reconsidering on where to build forts past level 6. I've done it very few times, but bases like Chittagong may need to go up past 6 now if your stand at San Diego shows that BBs can do very little against high forts even in clear terrain. Add a couple of those big SeaBee Rgts and you can build concrete reinforced condos on the beachfront. [:D]

Bullwinkle58 -> RE: Invasion West Coast! (7/20/2016 6:40:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JocMeister Hehe, yeah you did. Problem with letting him come to me in LA is that he is never going to attack there though. He doesn´t even have half the raw AV. Its x3 terrain and he knows for sure there are forts there. Just not how many. So he is not going to attack. He is just trying (successfully) to block me in. I´ll attack again next turn. I´ll grind him down eventually as I can recover and cycle troops in and out. He can´t. [:)] Taking the contrarian position, I'd ask why you're in such a hurry to beat him, eject him, off the WC? If he doesn't attack at LA, great! He sits prime LCUs--that can't really hurt yours--on a foreign shore, eating groceries and getting sniped by air power. Why is that bad for you? They're at LA they're not in the DEI, for example. Instead, you handed him almost two good divisions for very little return. Do you need the guys at LA to defend SD? You've said you think SD is fine now, so no. Why attack out of Level 9 forts at LA? It's water under the bridge, but maybe you don't go back upstream at this point.

crsutton -> RE: Invasion West Coast! (7/20/2016 6:51:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58 quote: ORIGINAL: JocMeister This was my face when I saw the LA attack... [image]local://upfiles/32406/692677B000FF45ADAAFDB73128B20359.jpg[/image] 1 to 35 odds. Ouch. I'm not sure, coulda been dreaming, can't say, might be wrong . . . . . . but didn't somebody say "Don't attack at LA. Let him come at you behind the forts you so expensively built"? And that person was promptly shouted down by the Maneuver War brigade? 1 to 35. Sheesh. If you'd have had the whole LA stack attack might it have been 1 to 10? There will be a significant difference when you get the chance to upgrade to the 43 squads. 42 squads have low firepower and virtually no AT values. 43 is much better.

witpqs -> RE: Invasion West Coast! (7/20/2016 7:14:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58 quote: ORIGINAL: JocMeister Hehe, yeah you did. Problem with letting him come to me in LA is that he is never going to attack there though. He doesn´t even have half the raw AV. Its x3 terrain and he knows for sure there are forts there. Just not how many. So he is not going to attack. He is just trying (successfully) to block me in. I´ll attack again next turn. I´ll grind him down eventually as I can recover and cycle troops in and out. He can´t. [:)] Taking the contrarian position, I'd ask why you're in such a hurry to beat him, eject him, off the WC? If he doesn't attack at LA, great! He sits prime LCUs--that can't really hurt yours--on a foreign shore, eating groceries and getting sniped by air power. Why is that bad for you? They're at LA they're not in the DEI, for example. Instead, you handed him almost two good divisions for very little return. Do you need the guys at LA to defend SD? You've said you think SD is fine now, so no. Why attack out of Level 9 forts at LA? It's water under the bridge, but maybe you don't go back upstream at this point. I have no experience with this point so I want to confirm: have the factories at LA and SD that produce aircraft ceased production, or are they still pumping out birds?

IJV -> RE: Invasion West Coast! (7/20/2016 7:22:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58 quote: ORIGINAL: JocMeister Hehe, yeah you did. Problem with letting him come to me in LA is that he is never going to attack there though. He doesn´t even have half the raw AV. Its x3 terrain and he knows for sure there are forts there. Just not how many. So he is not going to attack. He is just trying (successfully) to block me in. I´ll attack again next turn. I´ll grind him down eventually as I can recover and cycle troops in and out. He can´t. [:)] Taking the contrarian position, I'd ask why you're in such a hurry to beat him, eject him, off the WC? If he doesn't attack at LA, great! He sits prime LCUs--that can't really hurt yours--on a foreign shore, eating groceries and getting sniped by air power. Why is that bad for you? They're at LA they're not in the DEI, for example. Instead, you handed him almost two good divisions for very little return. Do you need the guys at LA to defend SD? You've said you think SD is fine now, so no. Why attack out of Level 9 forts at LA? It's water under the bridge, but maybe you don't go back upstream at this point. I think specifically the problem is supply at San Diego - namely that there isn't, in the grand scheme of things, very much of it (iirc 50k on D+2 of the invasion? can't remember what was posted), so being passive elsewhere would tend to lead to that becoming a potential Problem very quickly (or at least more so than it will as things stand). Which, of course, begs the question - how's that situation now ?

Lokasenna -> RE: Invasion West Coast! (7/20/2016 7:57:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: witpqs quote: ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58 quote: ORIGINAL: JocMeister Hehe, yeah you did. Problem with letting him come to me in LA is that he is never going to attack there though. He doesn´t even have half the raw AV. Its x3 terrain and he knows for sure there are forts there. Just not how many. So he is not going to attack. He is just trying (successfully) to block me in. I´ll attack again next turn. I´ll grind him down eventually as I can recover and cycle troops in and out. He can´t. [:)] Taking the contrarian position, I'd ask why you're in such a hurry to beat him, eject him, off the WC? If he doesn't attack at LA, great! He sits prime LCUs--that can't really hurt yours--on a foreign shore, eating groceries and getting sniped by air power. Why is that bad for you? They're at LA they're not in the DEI, for example. Instead, you handed him almost two good divisions for very little return. Do you need the guys at LA to defend SD? You've said you think SD is fine now, so no. Why attack out of Level 9 forts at LA? It's water under the bridge, but maybe you don't go back upstream at this point. I have no experience with this point so I want to confirm: have the factories at LA and SD that produce aircraft ceased production, or are they still pumping out birds? I don't see why they wouldn't? The only things that don't are apparently HI, but also Resources/Oil.

Bullwinkle58 -> RE: Invasion West Coast! (7/20/2016 7:58:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: IJV I think specifically the problem is supply at San Diego - namely that there isn't, in the grand scheme of things, very much of it (iirc 50k on D+2 of the invasion? can't remember what was posted), so being passive elsewhere would tend to lead to that becoming a potential Problem very quickly (or at least more so than it will as things stand). Which, of course, begs the question - how's that situation now ? In stock SD has 160 LI and 40HI. I don't recall his Resources there, but he has a million fuel. If he has Resources even a sealed base should be fine on supply for the rest of 1943.

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