RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls

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vicberg -> RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls (9/3/2015 12:40:33 AM)
August 8th, 1942 *NoPac* Sweeps from Dora against kodiak net about equal losses. For some reason, I'm happy with equal losses. The sub war has heated up as he got a fish into an AP and a DD over the last 2 days and I've been scoring numerous hits against his subs. *China* The 1000 foot airfield attacks were met with NO flak. So I'm assuming no supply. Hold onto hats because I've scheduled an attack for tomorrow. I'm braced for heavy losses and not too worried as I know my ARTY continue to take out his squads. Ground combat at Chungking (76,45) Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 120440 troops, 1322 guns, 790 vehicles, Assault Value = 3564 Defending force 270805 troops, 708 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 7603 Allied ground losses: 1784 casualties reported Squads: 65 destroyed, 49 disabled Non Combat: 7 destroyed, 6 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled

vicberg -> RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls (9/3/2015 1:26:55 PM)
August 9th, 1942 *Siege of Chungking* I'm not too unhappy with these results. Someone like Lowpe seems to be a wizard at predicting the number of attacks that will be needed in the future. 1 fort level dropped and I destroyed more units than he did, but my disablements were huge. Out of the 9 divisions, 4 are trashed and 5 are about 1/2 strength now. I'm moving those 4 trashed divisions to the city to the west and leaving the remaining 5. I'll move China Command west also to draw more supplies and speed the recovery. Ground combat at Chungking (76,45) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 122531 troops, 1324 guns, 1147 vehicles, Assault Value = 3580 Defending force 268834 troops, 705 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 7470 Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 5 Japanese adjusted assault: 1276 Allied adjusted defense: 2863 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 5) Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), preparation(-), experience(-) supply(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 23650 casualties reported Squads: 233 destroyed, 2408 disabled Non Combat: 8 destroyed, 244 disabled Engineers: 3 destroyed, 124 disabled Guns lost 90 (7 destroyed, 83 disabled) Vehicles lost 256 (30 destroyed, 226 disabled) Allied ground losses: 4624 casualties reported Squads: 305 destroyed, 225 disabled Non Combat: 61 destroyed, 136 disabled Engineers: 5 destroyed, 3 disabled Guns lost 54 (35 destroyed, 19 disabled) Units destroyed 2 Assaulting units: 40th Division 59th Division 39th Division 23rd Tank Regiment 1st Tank Division 69th Division 13th Tank Regiment 34th Division 15th Tank Regiment 6th Division 12th Tank Regiment 110th Division 41st Division 26th Division 11th Tank Regiment 11th Army 6th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 23rd Army Botanko Hvy Gun Regiment 8th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 1st Army China Expeditionary Army 4th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 2nd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment 1st Mortar Battalion Tonei Hvy Gun Regiment 3rd Hvy.Artillery Regiment 11th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion 10th Mortar Battalion 15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment North China Area Army 52nd Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion 14th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 51st Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion 3rd Mortar Battalion 7th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 6th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 1st Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 12th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion Defending units: 1st Chinese Cavalry Corps 90th Chinese Corps 2nd Chinese Corps 73rd Chinese Corps 69th Chinese Corps 22nd Chinese Corps 38th Chinese Corps 92nd Chinese Corps 2nd Chinese Cavalry Corps 47th Chinese Corps 95th Chinese Corps 82nd Chinese Corps 33rd Chinese Corps 14th Chinese Corps 42nd Chinese Corps 64th Chinese Corps 67th Chinese Corps 32nd Chinese Corps 35th Chinese Corps 56th Chinese Corps 44th Chinese Corps 62nd Chinese Corps 45th Chinese Corps 96th Chinese Corps 41st Chinese Corps 52nd Chinese Corps 19th Chinese Corps 9th Chinese Corps 77th Chinese Corps 12th Chinese Corps 84th Chinese Corps 15th Chinese Corps 91st Chinese Corps 48th Chinese Corps 87th Chinese Corps 55th Chinese Corps 89th Chinese Corps 20th Chinese Corps 31st Chinese Corps 61st Chinese Corps 93rd Chinese Corps 34th Separate Brigade 56th AT Gun Regiment 6th Chinese Base Force 14th Construction Regiment 3rd Heavy Mortar Regiment 3rd Group Army 26th Group Army 6th War Area 18th Group Army China Command 9th Group Army 35th Group Army 7th Artillery Regiment 20th Group Army 4th War Area CAF HQ 83rd Chinese Corps 2nd Group Army 43rd Chinese Corps 9th War Area 37th Group Army 4th Heavy Mortar Regiment 16th Group Army 21st Group Army 22nd Artillery Regiment 5th Construction Regiment 41st AA Regiment 1st Artillery Regiment 7th Group Army 13th Group Army 14th Group Army 18th Artillery Regiment 49th AA Regiment 20th Artillery Regiment 39th Chinese Corps Central Reserve 17th Chinese Corps 6th Construction Regiment 19th Group Army 4th Group Army 29th Group Army 6th Group Army 11th Chinese Base Force

Lowpe -> RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls (9/3/2015 2:04:32 PM)
He is in deep trouble...keep the bombardments up and the bombing. Make sure your repairing troops are split into thirds with plentiful supply. Double check all your troops prep. Double check your leaders in the big divisions.

Simonsez -> RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls (9/3/2015 2:05:17 PM)
About what you should expect. Assume you have both Corps and Army HQ's within range to get the max possible AV bump and he has negatives for all the things you can trigger so that is good. Keep bombing the airfield to keep the forts from regenerating and bombardments going between ground attacks. This is Leningrad, not the Falaise (sp?) pocket. Rest your guys to recover the disablements and try again when your AV has recovered. You're doing it right, it's just your expectations that are off! [:D]

witpqs -> RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls (9/3/2015 3:43:44 PM)
And be looking at the trashed units to see which ones, if any, you want to buy out for less PP while they are in that state.

vicberg -> RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls (9/3/2015 3:54:00 PM)
Splitting into thirds increases recovery time? Did not know that and very good to know. I've quintuple checked my command/army/corp HQ, divisions and even went so far as to change my ARTY leaders. Probably a waste there, but I wanted to be sure. quote: You're doing it right, it's just your expectations that are off! I've adjusted my expectations in this game. Ranting done and thanks for the soap box. [:)] My most trashed division is now at 27AV and only 700 PP. I'll pick that guy up in a couple of days.

witpqs -> RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls (9/3/2015 4:18:13 PM)
quote: Splitting into thirds increases recovery time? Did not know that and very good to know. The way you phrase the question, yes and no. Here is the scoop AFAIK. When you split the unit into thirds, each one gets a chance at taking replacements and the chance of taking replacements is not reduced to 1/3 nor is the number (sometimes a unit gets multiple replacements of a device in one day). So if a unit is less than 100% TOE splitting it into thirds almost always speeds up the replacement process. AFAIK splitting a unit into thirds does not speed up repair of disabled squads. One sometimes drawback of splitting a unit into thirds is that the /B and /C sub-units get essentially random leaders. Sometimes they are good and sometimes they are bad (speaking in terms of unit recovery & taking replacements). Rest mode is very important for a unit's recovery. 1) it speeds recovery of morale and fatigue, which in turn affect repair of disabled devices; 2) it makes the unit eligible to take replacements every day instead of every few days; however 3) long ago Michael checked the code and Rest mode does not (directly) speed up repair of disabled devices (but the first two points make it worthwhile).

vicberg -> RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls (9/4/2015 3:13:07 PM)
August 12th, 1942 *SoPac* It looks like US Carriers close to Suva. KB is returning to Yokohama and will steam down immediately. This will delay a couple of carrier upgrades (Akagi and Amagi). I have quite a few Sentai of A6M3b Zeroes on Suva and the surrounding area. Netties are in Noumea. We'll see what happens. Morning Air attack on Vava'u , at 141,165 Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid detected at 115 NM, estimated altitude 36,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 29 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M3b Zero x 11 Allied aircraft Martlet II x 6 P-39D Airacobra x 8 P-40B Warhawk x 8 P-40E Warhawk x 10 F2A-3 Buffalo x 19 F4F-3 Wildcat x 24 F4F-4 Wildcat x 10 F2A-3 Buffalo x 1 Japanese aircraft losses A6M3b Zero: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F2A-3 Buffalo: 1 destroyed *China* Perhaps its the drop in forts or a greater degree of disruption, but this has been par for the course for the Artillery bombardments. A higher degree of casualties and destroyed squads overall. Also, some arial ground bombardments are seeing much higher results and only 1 air supply hit from about 8 Sentai performing airfield strikes (I think there's 8...there's 6 sentia in Hankow, 4 more in Wuchow, 4 more on Chungking and 1 on Kweiyang, plus the single 4E sentai from Canton that this mod provides doing a combination ground/air field strike Ground combat at Chungking (76,45) Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 5577 troops, 339 guns, 340 vehicles, Assault Value = 1704 Defending force 259330 troops, 660 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 6918 Allied ground losses: 1740 casualties reported Squads: 79 destroyed, 39 disabled Non Combat: 13 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 4 (3 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Lowpe -> RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls (9/4/2015 4:00:18 PM)
Not a waste changing the leaders in your ART units, especially the heavy monsters. They are Japan's equalizer, can't stress how important they are. Understand the difference between a dinky 75mm Mtn gun and a 15cm or better monsters. Mortars are really good in Chungking too, your 30cm mortars should be there if they aren't. You now have a holistic attack on Chungking going: bombardments (aerial and ground), overstacking, reduced forts, low supply, disruption leading to KIA while your troops recover drinking sake and playing games nearby. It only gets worse for Chungking defenders...go destroy some other Chinese units so they respawn there for even more LCU vp. Banzai! (But don't use Chungking troops for that...but if there are some surrounded Chinese units you can destroy do it now and you might destroy them again when Chungking falls.).

vicberg -> RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls (9/4/2015 5:00:29 PM)
There's about 6 hexes with stragglers outside of Chungking. I have units (not from Chungking) converging on them. I was going to just beat them up a bit and not cause respawns, but you've changed my mind on that.

vicberg -> RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls (9/5/2015 5:14:03 PM)
August 14th, 1942 *The Cold War is officially heating up* It looks like we may have a confrontation soon in the South Pacific. It's a good thing I was expecting it. In the North, I bombard Dutch Harbor. In the South he has 2 Bombardment fleets go against Suva and 1 against Nadi. I didn't have the juice there to put up much of a fight so I pulled the bulk of the Air Groups out the turn before. KB is a couple of days away from Yokohama and will steam south. I'm not too much in a rush right now. I do have a lot of juice from Noumea to Luganville, enough to defend for a while and I have 2 Infantry divisions on Truk and 1 on Saipan. I'm actually hoping he invades and then I'll take it back. This time, I'm going to take the surrounding bases and attempt to isolate Pago Pago. The operations will be in SoPac now. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Naval bombardment of Dutch Harbor at 171,50 - Coastal Guns Fire Back! 11 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese Ships BB Yamashiro BB Fuso CA Myoko, Shell hits 1 CA Chokai CA Maya CA Takao DD Hatakaze DD Harukaze DD Kamikaze DD Nowaki DD Urakaze DD Tokitsukaze Allied ground losses: 75 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Guns lost 20 (2 destroyed, 18 disabled) Port hits 6 Port fuel hits 3 Port supply hits 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Naval bombardment of Suva at 132,160 - Coastal Guns Fire Back! Japanese aircraft no flights Japanese aircraft losses H6K4 Mavis: 1 damaged H6K4 Mavis: 1 destroyed on ground A6M3b Zero: 7 damaged A6M3b Zero: 1 destroyed on ground D3A1 Val: 2 damaged D3A1 Val: 1 destroyed on ground 12 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Allied Ships BB New Mexico BB Idaho BB Pennsylvania BB Arizona DD Harwood DD Hart DD Monaghan DD Aylwin DD Farragut DMS Dorsey Japanese ground losses: 698 casualties reported Squads: 3 destroyed, 1 disabled Non Combat: 17 destroyed, 56 disabled Engineers: 2 destroyed, 4 disabled Guns lost 4 (2 destroyed, 2 disabled) Resources hits 2 Airbase hits 13 Airbase supply hits 4 Runway hits 25 Port hits 15 Port supply hits 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Naval bombardment of Suva at 132,160 - Coastal Guns Fire Back! Japanese aircraft no flights Japanese aircraft losses A6M3b Zero: 7 damaged D3A1 Val: 2 damaged 5 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Allied Ships CA San Francisco CA Minneapolis CA New Orleans DD Perkins DD Conyngham DD Lamson DD Drayton Japanese ground losses: 520 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 34 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 6 disabled Resources hits 1 Airbase hits 7 Runway hits 35 Port hits 13 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Naval bombardment of Nadi at 131,160 Japanese aircraft no flights Japanese aircraft losses E13A1 Jake: 5 damaged B5N2-C Kate: 3 damaged Allied Ships BC Constellation CA Algerie CL Nashville CL Phoenix DD Cummings DD Lang DD Wilson Japanese ground losses: 506 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Non Combat: 8 destroyed, 28 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled Airbase hits 19 Airbase supply hits 11 Runway hits 82 Port hits 31 Port supply hits 10

ny59giants -> RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls (9/5/2015 7:06:26 PM)
If they're not sunk yet, put all your minelaying subs (I-121 to 124) together in a TF and send them to SoPac.

vicberg -> RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls (9/5/2015 8:02:35 PM)
August 15th, 1942 *SoPac* We have a situation around Suva. Numerous surface bombardments from the Allies again Nadi plus an invasion. I have a solid defensive line between Luganville and Noumea with Nettie, Kate and Val Squadrons ready. More air groups and surface fleets are in transit. 1 CarDiv (Amagi/Akagi/Juno and 3 CVL) are in transit to Truk. The other 2 CarDivs are 1 day away from Yokohama, will refuel and go immediately down to Truk. I'm preparing 3 IDs in Truk and Saipan for SoPac. I have a question though before I pull the trigger on this next turn. I have 2 surface fleets in Noumea. Both show 10 movement. That's twice per turn, correct? so they move 10 and then another 10 at full speed? Morning Air attack on TF, near Nadi at 131,160 Weather in hex: Overcast Raid detected at 74 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 26 minutes Japanese aircraft G4M1 Betty x 24 Allied aircraft Martlet II x 10 F2A-3 Buffalo x 6 Japanese aircraft losses G4M1 Betty: 8 destroyed, 3 damaged G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed by flak No Allied losses Allied Ships DD Grayson DD Helm xAP Van Rees, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk xAK Unicoi, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage AP Henderson, Torpedo hits 2, heavy damage CA Vincennes APD Little Allied ground losses: 323 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 15 destroyed, 6 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 41 (37 destroyed, 4 disabled) Vehicles lost 6 (6 destroyed, 0 disabled) Morning Air attack on TF, near Nadi at 131,160 Weather in hex: Overcast Raid detected at 61 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 21 minutes Japanese aircraft G4M1 Betty x 22 Allied aircraft Martlet II x 5 F2A-3 Buffalo x 4 Japanese aircraft losses G4M1 Betty: 3 destroyed, 3 damaged G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed by flak No Allied losses Allied Ships DD Hamillton AP McCawley DE Chew CA Canberra xAK Goulburn, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage [image]local://upfiles/28990/702E42FC98CB48B5A44B99A57C74E52D.jpg[/image]

vicberg -> RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls (9/5/2015 8:19:51 PM)
Hey also, I'm getting an unable to unload an ADU Coastal Gun unit at Saipan. It's unloaded a bit of it but says unable to unload all? Port level is 4? What's going on?

ny59giants -> RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls (9/5/2015 8:41:27 PM)
Sometimes you have to break those ships off into a new TF and actually have them dock. The other factor at a base is amount of naval support and/or shore parties. TF movement - even thought it says 10 per phase or movement, I would plan on 9. So get it about 8 hexes away from hex you want to get to before you go to Full Speed to get in and out. Don't forget the amount of op points that may be used up and leave them within carrier air strike range. Tanna - what do you have here?? Your A6M2 Zero with drop tanks can go 14 hexes, so this base is important. Tinas - based out of Luganville or Noumea to reinforce Suva. If he doesn't have LRCAP, you should be able to airlift in troops. Overall, plan accordingly and marshall your forces. The Brit CVs with their armored decks will need holes in their sides, not their flight decks to sink them.

vicberg -> RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls (9/6/2015 12:59:09 PM)
August 18th, 1942 *SoPac* Nadi fell to 2 US Tank BTNs. Suva was invaded by a US Marine Div. How tough is this Div? 2 out of 3 CarDivs will arrive in Truk and 3rd is departing Yokohama. Tanna has 2 A6M2 units now. I think Bill has started his Ops a bit too quickly and it's forced me, like the Aleutians, to take action. The goal will be to push into SoPac, retake Suva and isolate Pago Pago.

vicberg -> RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls (9/6/2015 1:50:19 PM)
Ok, my ships are broken up and some docked and that seems to fix the issue. The CD Guns are offloading. And here's another DUH. I've had my planes in the Aleutians set to airfield attack wondering why they aren't flying against Dutch. Well, Dutch airfield is at 0. No airfield. Sheez. Also, though I have around 2000 AV in Chungking, a 200 AV mixed brigade crossed the river and triggered a shock attack. It's now at AV of 4. Sigh. Looks like I'll be buying that one for cheap as well.

witpqs -> RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls (9/6/2015 1:58:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: vicberg Ok, my ships are broken up and some docked and that seems to fix the issue. The CD Guns are offloading. And here's another DUH. I've had my planes in the Aleutians set to airfield attack wondering why they aren't flying against Dutch. Well, Dutch airfield is at 0. No airfield. Sheez. Provided that you do not have sufficient ships (TFs) docked that take up too much space, there is code that automatically rotates individual ships into dock for unloading (and I assume loading). Sometimes when you get the 'can't unload' message that code will still get the ships unloaded without intervention.

vicberg -> RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls (9/6/2015 2:01:18 PM)
It hasn't, maybe because they are AKs (not xAKs). They've been sitting there for 2 weeks and I JUST noticed them. Then the can't unload message came up. Once I docked them, it seems to work.

vicberg -> RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls (9/6/2015 2:14:52 PM)
SoPac Plans I'm still seeing Buffaloes, so I don't think Allies are 100% ready at this point for Carrier Operations. He was able to succeed because Suva was admittedly weak. He's used quite a few PPs for Chinese units (saw about 5 of them moving into India. And quite a few for air group frames (in this mod, allows for Allies to use PPs to pull out frames rather than pure Allied Production. I haven't read up on how that works yet.). I'm going to Marshall Forces. 3 IDs, 2 are currently loading. An AmphDiv in route to the 3rd at Saipan. A 4th already in route to Truk from Aleutians. My surface fleet is already in route to Truk. 3 CarDivs, each with 3 CVs and 3 CVLs, 3 CVs are Shokoku-Kai class. The A6M5 will be coming online in 2 weeks and I think Truk should be sufficient to upgrade these if needed. My limitation is fuel. I have 80k in route on oilers and another 70k in route on tankers to Truk. Once I've offloaded 70k into Adak, those oilers will go back to Japan, reload and push down some more. So I'm going to have to be efficient. Noumea was a fuel depot but I've drained that down. There's currently 145k of fuel on Truk. Babeldaob could be used if needed, but only 50k. I'm using Taraken/Balikpan to keep Babeldaob fuel stores increasing. He's built up Tongatapu and Vava'u and Niue. These 3 bases will be targets. I might just put 3 Divs straight into Nadi and walk them into Suva. I also have Karafuto Mixed brigade on Koumac and Maizuru Assault Div on Luganville, so I've got some juice. More ENG units are moving down from Japan and there's a few in Truk. Plenty to take these bases with and push out air support. I have Combined HQ on Efate. 9th Air Flotilla on Noumea and 3rd Air Fleet on Luganville. At least one of those will push forward. The goal of this operation will be to isolate Pago Pago, eventually bomb it into submission and remove SoPac as a staging area for his future operations.

witpqs -> RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls (9/6/2015 2:34:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: vicberg It hasn't, maybe because they are AKs (not xAKs). They've been sitting there for 2 weeks and I JUST noticed them. Then the can't unload message came up. Once I docked them, it seems to work. At small ports unloading can be a bear. The ships were probably unloading up until the messages, and even then might have been unloading slowly (or even more slowly! [:D]). My best understanding of what happened (in terms of the metaphors implemented, of course) when the messages came up is that the items small enough to unload by barge/lighter/small boat were all or almost all done and the unloading routine had available time wasted because the large items (usually radar sets are the culprits but there are others) needed the dock. I have seen cases where I got the message but the ships still finished unloading (not always the same day) and I interpret that as meaning that some of the resources (dock space or naval support or shore party) were present sufficiently to unload the items but were already used up for that phase (think in terms of ops points) when the unloading routine got to the troublesome large items. Sometimes the auto rotating code will get the job done, other times not and unfortunately you get the same messages in either case. Docking ships individually is almost always faster/more expedient but is manual. If the situation is not time critical and I don't want to add it to the list of micro items to manage I give it a turn or two before intervening.

vicberg -> RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls (9/6/2015 3:19:19 PM)
Micro Management? This Game? Naaaa.....say it ain't so Joe say it ain't so....

vicberg -> RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls (9/6/2015 4:33:17 PM)
August 18th, 1942 *Disaster in the Aleutians* His ships ranged out of Kodiak, somehow evaded search, a US Carrier group joined, all my Netties (2), Kates (2) Vals (1), Zeroes set to escort, NONE of them flew. Bases (Dora and Unmak) have great supply. WTF? How do you get planes to fly in this game???? These are an incomplete set of losses from ships at Dora. [image]local://upfiles/28990/A7DA431A7E2F44D28FA920744D96E9CF.jpg[/image]

vicberg -> RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls (9/6/2015 4:59:38 PM)
And I've got some serious problems in river city. My screwed up in R&D are costing me now as I have older models still flying that could have been upgrade partially by now. My A6M3 and A6M3b Sentias don't have range. The A6M2s just got show up sweeping and escorting into Nadi. My pilot quality is poor due to training screw ups early in the game. i'm now really behind the power curve. He's getting lots of VPs. I'm taking losses I can't afford. I did get a run on the Yorktown at Nadi but nothing. Tanni is low on supply. None of my Sentai in the Aleutians flew. The Zeroes on Unmak were stood down due to fatigue which is why they didn't fly out of Unmak nor provided any CAP. Also why the Vals didn't fly. I hae the Northern Fleet Command HQ in Unmak, but I've now found out that command HQ range doesn't extend over water. lesson learned there. The lack of escorts is probably why nothing flew out of there. No idea why nothing flew out of Dora. We'll see what happens next turn as I've got some Nicks in there now. And my naval search missed all of this. I'm correcting the naval search issue. An Allied SCFT hurt Dora but didn't close the airfield. We'll see what happens in the future. I have a BB SCTF that's been making runs out of Adak against Dutch. This will patrol off Dora for the future. I'm correcting the torp bomber situation and they are now based in Unmak. I have another Air HQ sitting in paramurshiro. It should have been moved weeks ago, but again, I'm not focusing well enough on various theaters to prepare for all of this. Taking, holding, not moving enough supply, not getting everything into position early enough. I haven't utilized the extensive air transport this mode provides. This game is really a beast and now I'm behind the power curve and Bill is taking real advantage of this.

vicberg -> RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls (9/6/2015 5:20:52 PM)
I need ways to reduce the beast. How does automatic pilot selection work? Will the game start choosing fighter pilots for air transports? Also, I've requested additional supplies at Lanchow and Sian and nothing is moving at all, therefore the oil there isn't repairing. Something I've got going wrong here.

vicberg -> RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls (9/6/2015 5:45:52 PM)
Here's the situation now in NoPac. American Carriers and CVLs and the SCTF farther away. [image]local://upfiles/28990/FFDEBF9C4E8C477182FC6C093789C80A.jpg[/image]

vicberg -> RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls (9/6/2015 5:51:59 PM)
I struggling to find out a strategy anywhere that will work. My plane and pilot quality at this point is probably less than this, as shown consistently by the air to air results. Bill received 1129 Victory Points as a result of last turn ALONE. Yes, I may have quantity, but it's difficult at best to bring to bear. At this point, he can continue to hit where I'm not. Japan doesn't have enough to spread everywhere. So right now, I have some in Aleutians, with more coming. Some in SoPac, with more coming. Some in Burma. Little in SRE. I'm not finding a strategy that consistently will work here other than attack attack attack. It's too late for that for me now. Now, I have to completely admit most of these problems are self-created. I screwed up R&D costing me months of R&D. I screwed up Pilot Training. I didn't push hard enough in Aleutians nor SoPac early in the game. I haven't made sure all bases were fully supplies with everything needed at the right place. And now I'm paying for it.

vicberg -> RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls (9/7/2015 1:30:13 PM)
To everyone that has been reading my AAR and to those who have been giving me advice, thank you very much. I did some soul searching yesterday after running the disaster..err...um...turn. I've come to the realization that the level of effort that I find enjoyable in this game isn't going to be enough for me EVER to be successful or competitive. I've had the time. I just don't have the interest in managing everything that needs to be managed on a day by day (turn by turn) basis. The game is simply too big for me. So, I have to go back to what I posted in my other AAR, "know your limitations" (and I shouldn't have started a second game when I didn't have control of the first). I'll be pulling out of both games. This is my limitation, not a limitation of the game. This is the best pure war game out there. Again, thanks to everyone. I enjoy greatly reading other's AARs and I'll continue that. Enjoy!

mind_messing -> RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls (9/7/2015 1:46:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: vicberg I struggling to find out a strategy anywhere that will work. My plane and pilot quality at this point is probably less than this, as shown consistently by the air to air results. Bill received 1129 Victory Points as a result of last turn ALONE. Yes, I may have quantity, but it's difficult at best to bring to bear. At this point, he can continue to hit where I'm not. Japan doesn't have enough to spread everywhere. So right now, I have some in Aleutians, with more coming. Some in SoPac, with more coming. Some in Burma. Little in SRE. I'm not finding a strategy that consistently will work here other than attack attack attack. It's too late for that for me now. Now, I have to completely admit most of these problems are self-created. I screwed up R&D costing me months of R&D. I screwed up Pilot Training. I didn't push hard enough in Aleutians nor SoPac early in the game. I haven't made sure all bases were fully supplies with everything needed at the right place. And now I'm paying for it. Take a few days off. We all have a bad string of turns that make you want to throw the game out of the window. I know, I've just came out of two pretty poor game-weeks and sank two Allied CV's and a CVE. You're not beat yet! At most, a minor setback. It takes about two months to train a half-decent pilot, three to train a good one. Pull everything off the frontlines you can and train intensively. In '42 the allies can't really make big leaps forward, and what they can take is your outer perimeter anyways. In two/three months you can have a pretty sizable number of pilots trained and get back in the fight properly. Use the "request veteran" button on air groups for pilots, then change the filter to show the "Reserve" pilot pool. Draw everyone from there.

vicberg -> RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls (9/7/2015 3:04:43 PM)
Thanks for the words of encouragement. But I've taken a day off already. I have supply issues in Burma, Thailand, Sumatra, Java, SoPac. NoPac is good on supply simply because I focused on that region, losing a chunk of my transport fleet in the process. I have fuel issues everywhere but Singapore, which seems to be attracting EVERYTHING (resources, supply, fuel, oil) and causing me problems now, plus Palembang. Truk is OK right now but the CarDivs steaming down will chew that up quickly. I have ground units, Air HQs, etc., sitting in Manila, Singapore, Babeldaob, Truk, Tokyo and other Home Island cities for months now. Base building requires engineers requiring their transport everywhere. Throw in pilot management (training and replacements) and air group management (missions, training, fatigue, morale, replacements, air support). Resource transport is another issue as Hokkaido is still increasing in resources, as is SRE. So why am I in the mess? I have realized these issues for a long time, but when I decide I'm going to deal with them, a huge sigh overcomes me and I tell myself next turn. It's simply too much work. Perhaps there's a better formula for auto-management of some of these activities? If so, I haven't found it. I love the battles, but I'm just not cut out for the rest. This game is a huge amount of effort to be successful at, more effort than I'm willing to do. This is the longest I've lasted in a WITP game. I kinda forgot why I stopped before. It's a truly awesome game, but I'm not willing to do what it takes to make it competitive. It's my limitation.

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