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rhondabrwn -> RE: Win 10 free upgrade (8/14/2015 11:21:44 PM)

Classic Shell has been updated for Windows 10

Available here:

http://www.fosshub.com/Classic-Shell.html/ClassicShellSetup_4_2_4.exe




Zap -> RE: Win 10 free upgrade (8/16/2015 8:15:13 AM)

The first time since I've had windows in all these years. Window Defender popped up and advised me it found some malware. And was taking care of it. Could windows 10 bring the good fortune of actually a Windows defender that actually defends. I hope so.




rhondabrwn -> RE: Win 10 free upgrade (8/17/2015 5:08:54 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Zap

The first time since I've had windows in all these years. Window Defender popped up and advised me it found some malware. And was taking care of it. Could windows 10 bring the good fortune of actually a Windows defender that actually defends. I hope so.


You know, in all these years, I've never ever encountered a real viral threat... adware and spyware... yep... but nothing serious. Most of my "hits" discovered by my anti-virus has been adware embedded in games that I purchased (and which wouldn't run when the AV quarantined the file... requiring me to restore it to play the game).

Guess I've been lucky [:)]




rhondabrwn -> RE: Win 10 free upgrade (8/17/2015 5:13:15 AM)

Had my first Blue Screen of Death today when I was trying to launch Chrome. No problems since. MS's advice was to check that all my drivers are current. I think I'll wait on that until it happens again. I verified that I have the latest version of Chrome.

Upgraded Sony SoundForge to version 10 today. It was only $22 and added a few new features. Ran the test version first and it seemed faster than version 9. Recorded the new "Walk Off the Earth" album to test it out.

And that was my excitement for the day.




Crossroads -> RE: Win 10 free upgrade (8/17/2015 5:58:04 AM)

I am up and running with W10 as well, upgraded from 8.0 to 8.1, now this. So far so good. Amazing how smoothly the upgrade went, it seems all my applications and their settings were indeed preserved.

Of Matrix / Slitherine games, I have had a quick run with JTCS series of three titles (East Front, West Front, Rising Sun), they seem to run a-OK. Next to check: TOAW III, Panzer Corps.




KISSMEUFOOL! -> RE: Win 10 free upgrade (8/17/2015 11:05:46 AM)

Microsoft; The ultimate Big Brother-

http://www.rt.com/usa/311304-new-windows-privacy-issues/


quote:


Windows 10s privacy settings are invasive and vague.

According to Zach Epstein of BGR News, all of Windows 10’s features that could be considered invasions of privacy are enabled by default. Signing in with your Microsoft email account means Windows is reading your emails, contacts and calendar data. The new Edge browser serves you personalized ads. Solitaire now comes with ads. Using Cortana – the voice-driven assistant that represents Redmond’s answer to Apple’s Siri – reportedly “plays fast and loose with your data.”

“I am pretty surprised by the far-reaching data collection that Microsoft seems to want,” web developer Jonathan Porta wrote on his blog. “I am even more surprised by the fact that the settings all default to incredibly intrusive. I am certain that most individuals will just accept the defaults and have no idea how much information they are giving away.”

As examples, Porta cited Microsoft having access to contacts, calendar details, and “other associated input data” such as “typing and inking” by default. The operating system also wants access to user locations and location history, both of which could be provided not just to Microsoft, but to its “trusted partners.”

“Who are the trusted partners? By whom are they trusted? I am certainly not the one doing any trusting right now,” Porta wrote, describing the default privacy options as “vague and bordering on scary.”

Alec Meer of the ‘Rock, Paper, Shotgun’ blog pointed out this passage in Microsoft’s 12,000-word, 45-page terms of use agreement:

“We will access, disclose and preserve personal data, including your content (such as the content of your emails, other private communications or files in private folders), when we have a good faith belief that doing so is necessary to.”

While most people are used to ads as the price of accessing free content, writes Meer, Microsoft is not making it clear enough that they are “gathering and storing vast amounts of data on your computing habits,” not just browser data.

Opting out of all these default settings requires navigating 13 different screens and a separate website, the bloggers have found.


Why the NSA should be restrained-
quote:

Documents leaked to the press by whistleblower Edward Snowden showed Microsoft was one of the technology companies the NSA siphoned web user data from during its PRISM campaign. The campaign saw the NSA siphon data from many tech firms including Facebook, Twitter, Google, Yahoo and Apple. The NSA used special secret court orders to force the companies to give them the data.








mbar -> RE: Win 10 free upgrade (8/17/2015 2:20:18 PM)

I tried 10 this weekend but unfortunately my mouse pointer cannot be used when I have my Saitek x52 plugged in. So I rolled back to 8.1 and everything worked fine. I will wait until Saitek has published drivers that work with Windows 10 before I try again.

(The mouse pointer drifts to the upper left hand corner of the screen and does not want to move from there. I have to <tab> my way to a shutdown.)




Halsey -> RE: Win 10 free upgrade (8/17/2015 7:54:19 PM)

OT BTW:

Win 10 spyware.

Google it, and look for free downloads to wipe them out.

There was a reason that the upgrade was free to everyone with Windows. ;-)





Terminus -> RE: Win 10 free upgrade (8/17/2015 10:26:18 PM)

There's always been spyware on Windows, but 10 is very, VERY bad. 50 million people have already "upgraded"; there's no reason for anybody else to do so. Let the poor saps do MS's beta testing for you.




rhondabrwn -> RE: Win 10 free upgrade (8/17/2015 10:57:32 PM)

Honestly, unless you are fearful that your searches for kiddie porn, bondage, or diaper fetish might be revealed... what are you putting out there that is of such concern?

I mean, virtually everything about our public lives is being gathered by someone. How do you avoid it? Grocery store loyalty card? Do you have one of those to get a discount? Now your grocer knows exactly what you are eating... whoa... can't have that now. They might start sending us discount coupons for ground beef after they see that you buy 10 pounds a month. Or maybe I will be blackmailed over my "vegetarian" personna when I actually buy a sack of frozen chicken breasts every few months to make chicken stew or the occasional package of hamburger patties (my weakness is for Cheeseburgers once in a while).

I don't particularly like all the data gathering, but it's a fact of life... everywhere. You buy something with a credit card and there is a record somewhere... your spending habits are aggregated and sold for targeted advertising. The day will come when in like the movie "Minority Report" scanners will identify us as we shop and offer buying recommendations on screens as we walk past. The cat is out of the bag... we no longer have any privacy. Not upgrading your O/S is a futile protest.

I haven't checked yet, but someone posted that Microsoft was going to flip all those invasive settings to "OFF" by default in that big update that just came out a few days ago in response to people's complaints. The only one that really concerned me was the one I posted about whereby you allowed Microsoft to technically use your computer and bandwidth to "serve up" software upgrades to other people's computers instead of using Microsoft's network. That was, indeed, creepy as Hell. I went in and manually turned that one off, not that anyone had accused MS of actually using Win 10 machines as their own "Botnet" to distribute updates. Remembering, of course, that the old "Napster" did just that... allowed you to pull music off someone else's computer hard drive in the background.

I had a rough upgrade, but everything is working pretty well now. I installed "Classic Shell" last night and got all my games and applications back onto the Start Menu. Things like my now invisible Office 2007 after the upgrade was really annoying... especially when accompanied by all the pressure to buy Office 365 or whatever they are calling that subscription service.

Anyway, I have no regrets now.




Halsey -> RE: Win 10 free upgrade (8/18/2015 12:49:47 AM)

No need to be nasty to me.
I didn't direct my comment directly to any of your responses.

Others may prefer not to have their browsing or shopping habits on record for others gains.
Just an FYI for any who might care.
Nothing is ever free. ;-)




Aurelian -> RE: Win 10 free upgrade (8/18/2015 1:15:20 AM)

I turned it all off.




Gilmer -> RE: Win 10 free upgrade (8/18/2015 11:39:18 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Aurelian

I turned it all off.


Me too.




KISSMEUFOOL! -> RE: Win 10 free upgrade (8/18/2015 1:22:22 PM)

quote:

Honestly, unless you are fearful that your searches for kiddie porn, bondage, or diaper fetish might be revealed... what are you putting out there that is of such concern?

I mean, virtually everything about our public lives is being gathered by someone. How do you avoid it? Grocery store loyalty card? Do you have one of those to get a discount? Now your grocer knows exactly what you are eating... whoa... can't have that now. They might start sending us discount coupons for ground beef after they see that you buy 10 pounds a month. Or maybe I will be blackmailed over my "vegetarian" personna when I actually buy a sack of frozen chicken breasts every few months to make chicken stew or the occasional package of hamburger patties (my weakness is for Cheeseburgers once in a while).

I don't particularly like all the data gathering, but it's a fact of life... everywhere. You buy something with a credit card and there is a record somewhere... your spending habits are aggregated and sold for targeted advertising. The day will come when in like the movie "Minority Report" scanners will identify us as we shop and offer buying recommendations on screens as we walk past. The cat is out of the bag... we no longer have any privacy. Not upgrading your O/S is a futile protest.

I haven't checked yet, but someone posted that Microsoft was going to flip all those invasive settings to "OFF" by default in that big update that just came out a few days ago in response to people's complaints. The only one that really concerned me was the one I posted about whereby you allowed Microsoft to technically use your computer and bandwidth to "serve up" software upgrades to other people's computers instead of using Microsoft's network. That was, indeed, creepy as Hell. I went in and manually turned that one off, not that anyone had accused MS of actually using Win 10 machines as their own "Botnet" to distribute updates. Remembering, of course, that the old "Napster" did just that... allowed you to pull music off someone else's computer hard drive in the background.

I had a rough upgrade, but everything is working pretty well now. I installed "Classic Shell" last night and got all my games and applications back onto the Start Menu. Things like my now invisible Office 2007 after the upgrade was really annoying... especially when accompanied by all the pressure to buy Office 365 or whatever they are calling that subscription service.

Anyway, I have no regrets now.

I do so enjoy Rhonda's candid observations. [:D]

quote:

Not upgrading your O/S is a futile protest.

(Silly girl. Ive been using WinXP for 13 years & Linux for 18 years. My 1982 Totyota Tercel is still running just fine too! No need to change a thing.) [:'(]




rhondabrwn -> RE: Win 10 free upgrade (8/19/2015 1:22:02 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: KISSMEUFOOL!

quote:

Honestly, unless you are fearful that your searches for kiddie porn, bondage, or diaper fetish might be revealed... what are you putting out there that is of such concern?

I mean, virtually everything about our public lives is being gathered by someone. How do you avoid it? Grocery store loyalty card? Do you have one of those to get a discount? Now your grocer knows exactly what you are eating... whoa... can't have that now. They might start sending us discount coupons for ground beef after they see that you buy 10 pounds a month. Or maybe I will be blackmailed over my "vegetarian" personna when I actually buy a sack of frozen chicken breasts every few months to make chicken stew or the occasional package of hamburger patties (my weakness is for Cheeseburgers once in a while).

I don't particularly like all the data gathering, but it's a fact of life... everywhere. You buy something with a credit card and there is a record somewhere... your spending habits are aggregated and sold for targeted advertising. The day will come when in like the movie "Minority Report" scanners will identify us as we shop and offer buying recommendations on screens as we walk past. The cat is out of the bag... we no longer have any privacy. Not upgrading your O/S is a futile protest.

I haven't checked yet, but someone posted that Microsoft was going to flip all those invasive settings to "OFF" by default in that big update that just came out a few days ago in response to people's complaints. The only one that really concerned me was the one I posted about whereby you allowed Microsoft to technically use your computer and bandwidth to "serve up" software upgrades to other people's computers instead of using Microsoft's network. That was, indeed, creepy as Hell. I went in and manually turned that one off, not that anyone had accused MS of actually using Win 10 machines as their own "Botnet" to distribute updates. Remembering, of course, that the old "Napster" did just that... allowed you to pull music off someone else's computer hard drive in the background.

I had a rough upgrade, but everything is working pretty well now. I installed "Classic Shell" last night and got all my games and applications back onto the Start Menu. Things like my now invisible Office 2007 after the upgrade was really annoying... especially when accompanied by all the pressure to buy Office 365 or whatever they are calling that subscription service.

Anyway, I have no regrets now.

I do so enjoy Rhonda's candid observations. [:D]

quote:

Not upgrading your O/S is a futile protest.

(Silly girl. Ive been using WinXP for 13 years & Linux for 18 years. My 1982 Totyota Tercel is still running just fine too! No need to change a thing.) [:'(]



To each their own makes life interesting [:)]




Tejszd -> RE: Win 10 free upgrade (8/19/2015 1:29:59 AM)

The upgrade from Win7 was smooth and most software is working; only had problems with MS Money crashes when importing bank transactions and Matrix CC games WAR/TLD/LSA not being able to run full screen.

I turned off all the data mining features/settings I could find but MS is still getting info and believes they own my PC now as MS;
- upgraded my version of Skype which I hadn't updated on purpose as I was going to possibly uninstall it
- installed Office 2010 OneNote which I didn't install from the Office CD on purpose
- installed an Office 365 upgrade advertising app




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