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Gettysburg -> Patch first (8/18/2015 6:36:39 PM)

I vote for a patch bevor the release of the SDK. 2 month after the release of the beta patch is this my wish.
War in the East or West is a very good example for a very good game support.



con20or -> RE: Patch first (8/19/2015 10:20:47 AM)

Hi Stultus - we are working on the patch too but the SDK is top priority, about 75/25. Very soon now. Then we will switch entirely onto the patch.



Gettysburg -> RE: Patch first (8/19/2015 8:22:29 PM)

Thank you for the info.
This game is great and SOWW makes history alive. I hope the devs will support this game so well like SOWG.



Rommel76 -> RE: Patch first (8/20/2015 8:51:17 AM)

I agree with you stultus [:)]



Gettysburg -> RE: Patch first (8/20/2015 9:46:25 AM)

I can not unterstand why the SDK have the most Priority, because I think the most gamers are not moders. This game have several bugs, this is normal for a new realeased game, but to clean out this bugs is always the first thing what other game developers do an then !! switch to other things what the game enhanced.



roy64 -> RE: Patch first (8/20/2015 11:14:38 AM)

I've not played since June because of the bugs, to be honest I'm getting pissed of with the lack of patches. It seems they are giving the modders priority hoping they can make the game more playable. Not happy!



Gettysburg -> RE: Patch first (8/20/2015 11:35:04 AM)

I total agree with you roy64. I find this very strange to make first a SDK and do not eliminate the biggest bugs. [&:]



ETF -> RE: Patch first (8/21/2015 2:17:11 PM)

Scenario editor IMHO is like getting another program for free!!!



con20or -> RE: Patch first (8/21/2015 3:52:30 PM)

Most gamers are not modders but most gamers love mods.

We reworked our system entirely for Waterloo so people needed a new SDK to mod it. This will allow modders to make much more free content for the game, cater to specific tastes, specific eras. We had alot of requests for it early on and after we released the beta patch we started work on it. People are cranking out mods on our site already. These are different maps, battle types, OOBs all available for free - we do not release the SDK to fix game bugs. As ETF rightly says we are also providing a free-of-charge scenario and OOB editor that will also lead to far more content.




rickier65 -> RE: Patch first (8/21/2015 4:28:13 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: con20or

Hi Stultus - we are working on the patch too but the SDK is top priority, about 75/25. Very soon now. Then we will switch entirely onto the patch.


I think it's a good approach to have the beta patch out there for players to hammer at while finishing up the SDK. It should give a chance for a much larger group to test and make sure critical things are caught before releasing official patch. And it allows those that want an opportunity to have the critical fixes.

Thanks
Rick



roy64 -> RE: Patch first (8/21/2015 5:20:20 PM)

Spot on.



con20or -> RE: Patch first (8/21/2015 6:23:10 PM)

Yep, that was our thinking behind the approach.



Gettysburg -> RE: Patch first (8/21/2015 9:19:44 PM)

Yes, i like mods but the game needs optimation for a better performance, some scenarios have bugs and are not full playable from both sides, re supply bug, etc. I bye a lot of games from Matrix, but no one let the customer wait for month to eliminate such bugs.



con20or -> RE: Patch first (8/21/2015 9:32:37 PM)

Unfortunately it is too late now to change the order, but we hope to have the SDK finished very soon and also the new, free scenario editor.

1. Beta Patch
2. SDK
3. Scenario Editor
4. Patch 1



roy64 -> RE: Patch first (8/22/2015 7:18:12 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: con20or

Unfortunately it is too late now to change the order, but we hope to have the SDK finished very soon and also the new, free scenario editor.



The editor is not free I've already paid for it as it was meant to come with the game.[;)]

Let's face it the game was released far to early & it should have had weekly updates to fix the bugs which are plaguing the game. I would never have brought Scourge of War: Waterloo if I new it was in such a state. It's 74 day's since I brought the game & no fixes which is pretty poor. Maybe Waterloo will be a great game in the future. I must admit I don't think I'll be supporting NorbSoftDev in the future.



e_barkmann -> RE: Patch first (8/22/2015 8:51:26 AM)

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The editor is not free I've already paid for it as it was meant to come with the game


I don't see an editor listed in the game features on the product page. Where did you see this?



Gettysburg -> RE: Patch first (8/22/2015 9:03:27 AM)

What do you think how mutch weeks does is take to put out patch1?



roy64 -> RE: Patch first (8/22/2015 9:58:12 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Chris Merchant

quote:

The editor is not free I've already paid for it as it was meant to come with the game


I don't see an editor listed in the game features on the product page. Where did you see this?


Product Specs

Theatre: Western Europe
Unit Scale: Regiment
Players: 1-14
AI: Yes
PBEM: No
File Size: 512mb
Download Time:
- 56K Modem: 20hr 19min
- DSL or Satelite: 66min
- High Speed: 13min
Version: 1.00rm
Manual: PDF E-Book, Printed - Color
Editor: Yes, Moddable Data Files


http://www.matrixgames.com/products/574/details/Scourge.of.War:.Waterloo



e_barkmann -> RE: Patch first (8/22/2015 11:17:03 PM)

so, are you not able to mod data files with the initial release?



roy64 -> RE: Patch first (8/23/2015 4:49:11 AM)

No.



e_barkmann -> RE: Patch first (8/23/2015 7:16:46 AM)

http://www.norbsoftdev.net/forum/index/scourge-of-war-waterloo

Plenty of people modding data files here, might be worth going there to get some pointers



roy64 -> RE: Patch first (8/23/2015 7:27:13 AM)

I'm there daily & I don't need any pointers. [:-]



e_barkmann -> RE: Patch first (8/23/2015 10:04:30 AM)

okay! Have a great day.



Gettysburg -> RE: Patch first (8/30/2015 1:26:23 PM)

Matrixgames should say clear words to the bad patch support here. It was ever one of matrixgames strenghts to give player a very good patch support for they Distributet games.



ETF -> RE: Patch first (9/1/2015 11:33:29 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: roy64


quote:

ORIGINAL: con20or

Unfortunately it is too late now to change the order, but we hope to have the SDK finished very soon and also the new, free scenario editor.



The editor is not free I've already paid for it as it was meant to come with the game.[;)]

Let's face it the game was released far to early & it should have had weekly updates to fix the bugs which are plaguing the game. I would never have brought Scourge of War: Waterloo if I new it was in such a state. It's 74 day's since I brought the game & no fixes which is pretty poor. Maybe Waterloo will be a great game in the future. I must admit I don't think I'll be supporting NorbSoftDev in the future.


Well it isn't perfect but wow our groups has logged 30+ hours with it! Great enjoyment. Looking forward to mods and the scenario editor.....Patches are also very good. As long as the developers are moving forward I'm happy to be part of the process. I will take this product as is over many of the matrix games I have purchased over the last decade.



con20or -> RE: Patch first (9/2/2015 6:24:24 AM)

SDK is out. Hope you enjoy it ETF.

http://www.norbsoftdev.net/forum/waterloo-modifications/70420-re-waterloo-sdk#70422

We are full time on the patch now.



Gettysburg -> RE: Patch first (9/5/2015 6:55:45 PM)

What about my question from for several days?



con20or -> RE: Patch first (9/5/2015 7:21:40 PM)

Hi Stultus,

If by, 'my question', you mean your last post, then I hope that our work in 2 short months on releasing the:

1. Beta Patch
2. Scenario Editor
3. SDK

Has demonstrated that there is actually excellent patch support.



Gettysburg -> RE: Patch first (9/5/2015 10:25:31 PM)

What do you think how mutch weeks does is take to put out patch1? this was my last queation to you.[&:]



con20or -> RE: Patch first (9/6/2015 12:07:48 PM)

We have not set a date and I will not guess incase it leads to dissapointment if we dont get it done in time.



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