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berto -> The Countdown Thread -- Crazy is as crazy does (8/30/2015 4:11:19 AM)


Just posted in the Dev Forum:

quote:

ORIGINAL: berto

Oh, this is fun...

I have three computers here running automated crash tests simultaneously.

The tests:

  • Are totally automated, entirely hands-off. I launch a Cygwin command line script, the script takes over, and I walk away.
  • The game is in auto-play, A/I vs. A/I test play mode.
  • Every scenario is being tested, in sequence, one after another, from smallest to largest.
  • So as to exercise the graphics in different ways, one system (my fastest) is testing in 4d (hot key 2) 3D mode; another system is testing in 6d (hot key 5) 2D mode; and a third is testing in 2d (hot key 6) 2D mode.
  • At the conclusion of every scenario, the csttrun script archives for safekeeping and auditing purposes (in case of crashes, or freezes) all .btl save files, and all log files.

    It's really neat to be surrounded by computers (I have five systems here in the Man Cave, with seven monitors), three of which are automated crash testing the Middle East game. Neat, but also kinda crazy.

    If past experience with JTCS last year is any guide, I expect that on the fastest system, and maybe on all three, all ~70 scenarios will be tested within a day, maybe two. By the time we go Gold Master, we should have pretty good evidence that the game is stable and crash-free. Assuming!

    Enough for now. Let the computers do their thing overnight. As for me, now to bed!




  • berto -> RE: The Countdown Thread -- Crazy is as crazy does (8/30/2015 3:18:16 PM)


    Be it ever so humble, there's no place like ... the Man Cave:

    [image]http://pikt.org/matrix/cs/graphics/ManCaveSystems6.jpg[/image]

    To the left, a Windows 7 box running an automated ME crash test (hosting a Linux virtual web server running in the background). To the right, in the shadows, a Windows XP box and a Windows 7 laptop also running automated ME crash tests. In the center, my primary Windows 7 dev system (facing), and my primary Linux workstation (from the rear).

    Another shot:

    [image]http://pikt.org/matrix/cs/graphics/ManCaveSystems7.jpg[/image]

    To the left, the Windows XP system and the Windows 7 laptop running automated ME crash tests. To the right, my primary Linux dev system (also hosting an operational Linux virtual web server).

    Why yes, that's my dog-eared copy of Kernighan & Ritchie's The C Programming Language on the table to the lower right. The C Bible -- I never program without it!




    berto -> RE: The Countdown Thread -- Crazy is as crazy does (8/30/2015 4:40:15 PM)


    quote:

    ORIGINAL: berto

    Just posted in the Dev Forum:

    quote:

    ORIGINAL: berto

    Oh, this is fun...

    I have three computers here running automated crash tests simultaneously.


    And now we have a second Dev Team member, Crossroads, also running automated Middle East crash tests, his on Windows 10.

    Garth: Party on, Wayne!

    Wayne: Party on, Garth!

    [:D]




    Crossroads -> RE: The Countdown Thread -- Crazy is as crazy does (8/30/2015 4:47:44 PM)

    We'd need to get our local Aussie team member to join in, then this'd be a true 7x24 follow-the-sun Americas - Europe - APAC team effort [:D]




    Crossroads -> RE: The Countdown Thread -- Crazy is as crazy does (8/30/2015 6:57:47 PM)

    quote:

    ORIGINAL: berto


    quote:

    ORIGINAL: berto

    Oh, this is fun...

    I have three computers here running automated crash tests simultaneously.


    And now we have a second Dev Team member, Crossroads, also running automated Middle East crash tests, his on Windows 10.



    So who's the king of the hill then?

    On the Blue corner: AI! On the Red corner: AI!

    Are you ready to rrr--rrrumble!

    [image]local://upfiles/32195/4822555F163F48A4B97016A522B47C95.jpg[/image]




    Crossroads -> RE: The Countdown Thread -- Crazy is as crazy does (8/30/2015 6:58:47 PM)

    2D Normal view with the NATO icons MOD in place. Had to crop the picture down to 60% to meet the 200kb limit so it looks a bit off but you get the idea.




    Crossroads -> RE: The Countdown Thread -- Crazy is as crazy does (8/30/2015 7:02:43 PM)

    So who was the king of the hill then? The automated test run just ended for this battle: Side B Minor Win this time it was [8D]




    berto -> RE: The Countdown Thread -- Crazy is as crazy does (8/30/2015 9:54:16 PM)


    A couple of screenshots from ongoing, automated, A/I vs. A/I, crash test games here.




    benpark -> RE: The Countdown Thread -- Crazy is as crazy does (8/30/2015 10:47:30 PM)

    Berto, you know how to get things done right! I always read your posts, as they are interesting, and show how much work goes into something like building and adapting a game engine. Impressive as always.




    Jason Petho -> RE: The Countdown Thread -- Crazy is as crazy does (8/31/2015 12:32:56 AM)


    quote:

    ORIGINAL: benpark

    Berto, you know how to get things done right! I always read your posts, as they are interesting, and show how much work goes into something like building and adapting a game engine. Impressive as always.


    +1.

    He is absolutely indispensable part of the team! We are lucky to have him, his fantastic abilities and knowledge.

    Jason Petho




    Crossroads -> RE: The Countdown Thread -- Crazy is as crazy does (8/31/2015 5:39:00 AM)


    quote:

    ORIGINAL: Jason Petho


    quote:

    ORIGINAL: benpark

    Berto, you know how to get things done right! I always read your posts, as they are interesting, and show how much work goes into something like building and adapting a game engine. Impressive as always.


    +1.

    He is absolutely indispensable part of the team! We are lucky to have him, his fantastic abilities and knowledge.

    Jason Petho


    I think Berto has earned himself a proper War Name (with apologies to movie 'Fury'):

    Grady Travis: Goddamn, Berto. You a fighting, coding, testing machine, ain't you?
    Don Collier: Machine, that's it, that's his war name.
    Boyd 'Bible' Swan: That's perfect.
    [the others laugh]
    Don Collier: I christen thee "Machine."
    Boyd 'Bible' Swan: Machine!
    Trini 'Gordo' Garcia: Machine!
    Grady Travis: Machine!
    Don Collier: Machine!
    Grady Travis: Yeah.
    [quietly to himself] Berto: Machine.
    Don Collier: I love it in here. I do. Best job I ever had.
    Grady Travis: Best #*#%& job.
    Boyd 'Bible' Swan: Yeah.




    Hexagon -> RE: The Countdown Thread -- Crazy is as crazy does (8/31/2015 12:13:12 PM)

    Interesting new map 2D art, the smoke is arty smoke no??? maybe i feel it to dark... and miss a little some black smoke over wrecks but... minor details.


    What an image... remember me the chinese version of Google HQ [:D] I specially like the detail of closed window with cardboard and american tape to prevent slaves see the day light [sm=happy0065.gif]

    PD: keept AI fighting AI i imagine it like this as a good distraction for code slaves allways go with red [;)]

    [image]http://www.elconfidencial.com/fotos/noticias/20100813100gallos_dento.jpg[/image]





    berto -> RE: The Countdown Thread -- Crazy is as crazy does (8/31/2015 2:39:15 PM)


    quote:

    ORIGINAL: Crossroads

    I think Berto has earned himself a proper War Name (with apologies to movie 'Fury'):

    Grady Travis: Goddamn, Berto. You a fighting, coding, testing machine, ain't you?
    Don Collier: Machine, that's it, that's his war name.
    Boyd 'Bible' Swan: That's perfect.
    [the others laugh]
    Don Collier: I christen thee "Machine."
    Boyd 'Bible' Swan: Machine!
    Trini 'Gordo' Garcia: Machine!
    Grady Travis: Machine!
    Don Collier: Machine!
    Grady Travis: Yeah.
    [quietly to himself] Berto: Machine.
    Don Collier: I love it in here. I do. Best job I ever had.
    Grady Travis: Best #*#%& job.
    Boyd 'Bible' Swan: Yeah.


    Cut from the scene:

    Berto: Best second job I ever had.
    [claustrophobic Berto raging to himself inwardly] Berto: Get me outta here!! [sm=scared0008.gif]




    berto -> RE: The Countdown Thread -- Crazy is as crazy does (8/31/2015 2:49:36 PM)


    Just posted at the Dev Forum:

    quote:

    ORIGINAL: berto

    quote:

    ORIGINAL: berto

    Among the three test systems, at test scenario counts 56, 49 & 50 -- still no freezes or crashes. Looking good! [8D]

    About ten hours later:

    Among the three test systems, at test scenario counts 60, 57 & 58 -- still no freezes or crashes.

    As the scenarios get bigger and bigger the farther down the test list, the longer and longer the test games are taking.

    I was clearly too optimistic when I stated that complete test runs would require just a couple of days at most. No, now I expect these tests to last 2-3 days more.

    Still, looking real good!

    Posted late yesterday at the Dev Forum:

    quote:

    ORIGINAL: Crossroads

    Thanks Berto. Calling it the quits now, I am. My computer? 21 scenarios completed, so the night shift it is for him [8D]

    "Him"? Elvis-IV, he is. Fourth in line. For:

    Ping Elvis
    Elvis is alive

    [:'(]

    Then on his waking up, before leaving for work (in Finland):

    quote:

    ORIGINAL: Crossroads

    44 scenario tests have ended so far (Budapest scenarios are excluded from the test list), all of them have been fine. [sm=cool0013.gif]

    Leaving the computer to do its thing why I go to work. Go Elvis! [sm=Cool-609.gif]

    Viva Las Vegas!




    Crossroads -> RE: The Countdown Thread -- Crazy is as crazy does (8/31/2015 4:24:42 PM)


    quote:

    ORIGINAL: berto
    Viva Las Vegas!


    For some time I have been quite convinced We Are All Mad Here. In a Alice-In-Wonderland kind of a way. For It Helps.

    Meanwhile, Elvis the Fourth has not been loitering in Graceland, but been busy beating those scenarios around.

    59/69 scenarios churned under the Almost-Release-Candidates game installation. Next Release Candidates, then, Gold Masters!

    I just realised I should break the test scenario script into four parts, then have my quad-core W10 run four parallel sessions for a quicker resolution.

    Flip, Flop, and Fly !!! [sm=Cool-049.gif]




    berto -> RE: The Countdown Thread -- Crazy is as crazy does (8/31/2015 4:32:57 PM)


    A blast from the past: Coder Diary #17 -- Past, Present & Future

    ...

    And continuing on to the present. Posted recently in the Dev Forum (and airing a bit of our dirty linen):

    quote:

    ORIGINAL: berto

    For the RC 20150830 FULL GAME install...

    First CSlint results, these from cschkinstall.pl. cschkinstall.pl compares the current install (20150830) to the previous one (in this case Jason's 20150828 install).

    cschkinstall.pl reports no ERRORs!



    Robert@roberto ~/cslint
    $ egrep -i "error" cschkinstall.20150830.out
    [nil]



    This is very good.

    Some WARNINGs, some of them false positives or unimportant, but others of special note highlighted:



    Robert@roberto ~/cslint
    $ egrep -i "warning" cschkinstall.20150830.out | egrep -v "(size|cksum|mtime) difference|bad extension|\.log not found|saves/.*not found|pictures.*not found"
    WARNING: file graphics/op082096.bit not found in ref DB
    WARNING: file graphics/op082099.bit not found in ref DB
    WARNING: file graphics/op082102.bit not found in ref DB
    WARNING: file graphics/op085020.bit not found in ref DB
    WARNING: file graphics/op290018.bit not found in ref DB
    WARNING: file graphics/sp085018.bit not found in ref DB
    WARNING: file graphics/sp085019.bit not found in ref DB
    WARNING: file graphics/up082096.bmp not found in ref DB
    WARNING: file graphics/up082099.bmp not found in ref DB
    WARNING: file graphics/up082102.bmp not found in ref DB
    WARNING: file graphics/up085018.bmp not found in ref DB
    WARNING: file graphics/up085019.bmp not found in ref DB
    WARNING: file graphics/up085020.bmp not found in ref DB
    WARNING: file graphics/up290018.bmp not found in ref DB
    WARNING: file manual/sumatrapdf-settings.txt not found in ref DB
    WARNING: file manual/sumatrapdfcache/0beeca32fb5f8048a90a21fa7648a2fd.png not found in ref DB
    WARNING: file manual/sumatrapdfcache/1456cff335a8fa3eb3b62455fe7e2d6f.png not found in ref DB
    WARNING: ref DB file data/unittext.txt not found
    WARNING: ref DB file encrypt.exe not found
    WARNING: ref DB file manual/csme_manual_100_draft_letter_noimages.docx not found
    WARNING: ref DB file manual/csme_manual_100_draft_letter_noimages.zip not found
    WARNING: file graphics/sides3d.bmp newer than graphics/sidesnight3d.bmp
    WARNING: file oobs/leader8.oob has bad name
    WARNING: file oobs/leader9.oob has bad name



    "not found in ref DB" indicates a new addition. "not found" indicates a removal.

    Please review the above WARNINGs to see if anything is of concern.

    Be sure to verify the graphics additions in the above list.

    We accept the need for having both Leader8.oob & Leader08.oob, and Leader9.oob & Leader09.oob. Searching through the code:



    Robert@roberto /cygdrive/c/Documents and Settings/Robert/My Documents/Games/Matrix Games/CS/devel/Campaign Series
    $ find . -type f -exec egrep -il "leader.*oob" {} \; | ./cpph
    ./edorg/edorg.cpp
    ./frontend/Fetch.cpp



    That's two different places in the code where the Leader OOB files are referenced. Although I might inspect the code, I can't confidently predict that it should be Leader8.oob instead of Leader08.oob, or vice versa (and similarly for nation 9's Leader OOB file). Much less do I/we have the time to test it thoroughly right now. So, regrettably, we will have to accept the file duplication.

    However, please note:



    Robert@roberto /cygdrive/f/Games/Matrix Games/Middle East
    $ cksum middle_east/OOBs/Leader[89].oob middle_east/OOBs/Leader0[89].oob | sort -n
    3119115043 515 middle_east/OOBs/Leader08.oob
    3292444730 362 middle_east/OOBs/Leader09.oob
    3292444730 362 middle_east/OOBs/Leader8.oob
    3292444730 362 middle_east/OOBs/Leader9.oob



    The last three files are identical in checksum, and size (bytes). But the nation 8 Leader OOB files don't match! They should. Please review.

    The data/unittext.txt removal is correct. In fact, the game code is looking for unittext.txt in the texts folder:



    gfnam = GameFile (XTexts, "unittext.txt");



    I confirmed that unit texts are displaying in the F2 Unit Handbook. So no problem with unittext.txt.

    encrypt.exe has been removed. Good!

    The manual removals are appropriate.

    The manual/sumatrapdfcache/*.png files -- maybe best to leave well enough alone.

    @Petri: Note the warning about "graphics/sides3d.bmp newer than graphics/sidesnight3d.bmp" -- should we be concerned?

    More to follow...

    quote:

    ORIGINAL: berto

    csgfxchk.pl results:



    Robert@roberto ~/cslint
    $ ./csgfxchk.pl -n +w +e -g me | egrep -v "no.*picture file"
    ERROR: for unit BMP file Up0288804.bmp, no corresponding BIT file (P0288804: <UNKNOWN>)
    ERROR: for unit BMP file Up248005.bmp, no corresponding BIT file (P248005: <UNKNOWN>)
    WARNING: for unit BIT file Op141010.bit, no corresponding BMP file (P141010: <UNKNOWN>)
    WARNING: for unit BIT file Op220021.bit, no corresponding BMP file (P220021: <UNKNOWN>)
    WARNING: for unit BIT file Op281003.bit, no corresponding BMP file (P281003: <UNKNOWN>)
    WARNING: for unit BIT file Op281011.bit, no corresponding BMP file (P281011: <UNKNOWN>)
    WARNING: for unit BIT file Op288804.bit, no corresponding BMP file (P288804: <UNKNOWN>)



    These are, I think, the same results from two days ago.

    There might be some false positives in that. This was maybe already confirmed. If so, just disregard.

    And other posts like the above ... until:

    quote:

    ORIGINAL: berto

    csutxchk.pl looks good:



    Robert@roberto ~/cslint
    $ ./csutxchk.pl -n +w +e -g me
    [nil]



    Yay!

    That concludes my CSlint checks for now.

    I had really wanted to supplement my routine CSlint checks with some additional ad hoc, command line data vetting. Maybe I'll get to some of that later this week.

    (Idle thought: Can you imagine how useful, essential even, (a by then beefed up) CSlint etc. will be when we need to vet the JTCS 3.0 data -- a data set at least 10X larger than the ME one? [X(])

    So we have a few QA tricks up our sleeves. But despite that, will Middle East ship entirely, 100% bug free? Hardly! But it won't be for lack of trying!




    berto -> RE: The Countdown Thread -- Crazy is as crazy does (9/1/2015 7:43:45 PM)


    Posted today at the Dev Forum:

    quote:

    ORIGINAL: berto

    Almost 3 days into the crash tests (commenced Saturday evening) ...

    Among the three test systems, and out of 71 scenarios total, at test scenario counts 70, 67 & 67 -- still no freezes or crashes.

    This thing is stable!

    quote:

    ORIGINAL: Crossroads

    quote:

    ORIGINAL: Crossroads

    Down to the last three! Every scenario so far has completed succesfully [:)]


    Down to the last one! It will finish in a couple of hours I am sure, after which I will do a new round with Gold Masters!

    [sm=00000028.gif]




    Crossroads -> RE: The Countdown Thread -- Crazy is as crazy does (9/2/2015 8:02:08 AM)

    quote:

    ORIGINAL: berto
    Be it ever so humble, there's no place like ... the Man Cave:


    The whole Dev Team is very envious of Berto's Man Cave. That is the reason he never invites us to his home, for he knows we'd never leave. It is all good. For we wouldn't.

    So, the rest of us have to cope in other ways. Me? I rely on elvis-iv to do his part. There is only One Elvis. Similarly, there is only one elvis-iv, so better make it count.

    elvis-iv is a custom built. Did you know? You can easily build one. All it takes is something to scare all the bugs away so they'll never come back. One of the easier methods is to remind them you're a M.Sc in Mechanical Engineering and Computer Software.

    If you're not, like I am not: bluff!

    In pic 1 I've placed my trusted NASA coffee mug (must be filled with black coffee - no cream, no sugar!) among the components. See all the little bugs running away! I rely on basic, robust components. What better way to start a build for a wargamin' computer than to built it inside Corsair's matt black steel cage known as Carbide 300r. Love it. The other component I choose as a basis is a solid Corsair power source. You want to built on a solid basis right! Love them too, with their cool blue leds shining in the dark corner of my teeny tiny Man Attic Corner Thingy. Love it too! I've built pretty much similar rigs to my sons, geared up to their more modern taste on PC games.

    [image]http://i900.photobucket.com/albums/ac206/phn_at_cs/legoblocks_zpsurfvexud.jpg[/image]


    In pic 2, and you can call me old school for I am, but there's nothing like buying the biggest and baddest air cooler there is, and to stick it into the motherboard. No water cooling sissies allowed in our house! It is a man thing. Love it.

    [image]http://i900.photobucket.com/albums/ac206/phn_at_cs/evo_zpsjw5vwc1h.jpg[/image]


    In pic 3, 'elvis-iv is alive'. This moment never ceases to amaze me. Bluff worked. No bugs, they were removed in step 1 remember.

    [image]http://i900.photobucket.com/albums/ac206/phn_at_cs/elvis-iv_is_alive_zps5x4nyoje.jpg[/image]


    Yet, how can I compete with Berto's Man Cave. We can't. No one can. And I am not on a Mission Impossible here so I will look to compliment it rather.

    One of the things Berto convinced the team very early on was to install Cygwin on our systems, to be able to run his magical scripts on our builds too.

    In Pic 4, four simultaneous ME executables, each with their own list of scenarios to run. Running the games with 2D Extreme Zoom-out View for a bit quicker resolution as there's less zooming around the map. Neat!

    [image]http://i900.photobucket.com/albums/ac206/phn_at_cs/testrunx4_zps4fmw6ogu.jpg[/image]


    I have observed the RAM usage varies per scenario size from low 75 megs to larger scenarios at 150-200 range and even the biggest ones at 300 - 350 meg range. Not bad! This is a robust, efficient game engine we're packing. Very stable too, given we've so far together with Berto ran some 300 scenarios over the past two days without a crash.

    Will there be bugs? Yes, they are unavoidable, there will always be bugs. [:(] Among our testing we continue to meet not only bugs of our own making, but from legacy stuff too, still.

    quote:


    ORIGINAL: Berto

    So we have a few QA tricks up our sleeves. But despite that, will Middle East ship entirely, 100% bug free? Hardly! But it won't be for lack of trying!


    Amen!


    Edited with a better screenshot showing all the moving parts [:)]




    TheWombat_matrixforum -> RE: The Countdown Thread -- Crazy is as crazy does (9/2/2015 8:23:49 PM)

    Wow, really interesting stuff. Thanks for sharing the inner workings of this QA marathon. Helps us stay grounded!




    berto -> RE: The Countdown Thread -- Crazy is as crazy does (9/10/2015 10:55:32 AM)


    Posted recently in the ME Dev Forum:

    quote:

    ORIGINAL: berto

    So with a break in the action, I can finally attend to some Other Stuff, such as...

    Remember my catastrophic power line incident from three weeks ago? Remember where my new Linux laptop died? Well, before calling Dell for replacement, I tried powering on one final time (supposedly), and ... it lives!

    I have no idea why, despite repeated failed power-ons several weeks ago, it is now working.

    [&:]

    But whatever, it lives!

    [:D]

    That is the Linux system that successfully runs Middle East under Linux Wine, BTW.

    We're still coordinating with Matrix/Slitherine on the hand-off. Currently working through some issues with the installer.

    In the meantime, how pleasant it is not to be work, work, working on the game all the time. How pleasant it is to ... um, do other kinds of work. D'oh!




    sPzAbt653 -> RE: The Countdown Thread -- Crazy is as crazy does (9/10/2015 7:03:32 PM)

    quote:

    To the left, a Windows 7 box running an automated ME crash test (hosting a Linux virtual web server running in the background). To the right, in the shadows, a Windows XP box and a Windows 7 laptop also running automated ME crash tests. In the center, my primary Windows 7 dev system (facing), and my primary Linux workstation (from the rear).


    What, no W98 machine ? How can you get anything done ?

    lol. I recently replaced my broke XP with a new W7, but still have my W98 machine which I use daily. My third, an XP, doesn't work so good so it sits neglected in the corner. Thanks for posting the cool screenshots of the awesome workstation, and Cheers to the coming soon new release !




    Crossroads -> RE: The Countdown Thread -- Crazy is as crazy does (9/11/2015 6:17:34 AM)

    W98? [8D]

    And I thought I can be old school at times [:D]




    Hexagon -> RE: The Countdown Thread -- Crazy is as crazy does (9/12/2015 2:54:28 PM)

    Now we are in the last 2 weeks... any special thing prepared??? something like a daily pic or AARs (i need ask it again hehehe) or a special thread to present the fighters... "in the red corner, with a lot of Soviet equipment but even less idea of how use it... SYRIA!!!! and in the blue corner, using all that can mount a gun or a machinegun but deadly even in a Sherman on steroids... ISRAEL!!!" something like this [:D]

    I imagine you guys like this

    "OMG the countdown, the countdown, WE NEED MORE COUNTERS!!!"
    [image]http://likegif.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/03/countdown-gif-7.gif[/image]

    PD: W98... but and the poor win 3.1??? nobody remember him??? you dont have soul [:@]




    Crossroads -> RE: The Countdown Thread -- Crazy is as crazy does (9/12/2015 3:33:59 PM)


    quote:

    ORIGINAL: Hexagon

    Now we are in the last 2 weeks... any special thing prepared??? something like a daily pic or AARs (i need ask it again hehehe) or a special thread to present the fighters... "in the red corner, with a lot of Soviet equipment but even less idea of how use it... SYRIA!!!! and in the blue corner, using all that can mount a gun or a machinegun but deadly even in a Sherman on steroids... ISRAEL!!!" something like this [:D]


    Well there you go. Israeli vs Syria in the AAR sub forum. [8D]

    I hope you enjoy it!




    Jason Petho -> RE: The Countdown Thread -- Crazy is as crazy does (9/12/2015 3:35:57 PM)

    Keep in mind, the scenario for that AAR won't be available until the 1.01 release.

    Otherwise, we still haven't received the installer from Matrix/Slitherine. Hopefully early next week.

    Jason Petho




    Warhorse -> RE: The Countdown Thread -- Crazy is as crazy does (9/12/2015 4:16:16 PM)


    quote:

    ORIGINAL: Hexagon

    Now we are in the last 2 weeks... any special thing prepared??? something like a daily pic or AARs (i need ask it again hehehe) or a special thread to present the fighters... "in the red corner, with a lot of Soviet equipment but even less idea of how use it... SYRIA!!!! and in the blue corner, using all that can mount a gun or a machinegun but deadly even in a Sherman on steroids... ISRAEL!!!" something like this [:D]

    I imagine you guys like this

    "OMG the countdown, the countdown, WE NEED MORE COUNTERS!!!"
    [image]http://likegif.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/03/countdown-gif-7.gif[/image]

    PD: W98... but and the poor win 3.1??? nobody remember him??? you dont have soul [:@]

    Dude, that's sick!! I STILL have Win 3.1 disks!!! I remember how scary it was to suddenly have a file manager to contend with!!




    Hexagon -> RE: The Countdown Thread -- Crazy is as crazy does (9/12/2015 6:02:22 PM)

    I see the AAR now, looks promising with a lot of burning wrecks [:D]

    Well, the point is have it if is in 1.00 or 1.01 is not a great problem and well being a tournament scen you allways can create your own scen.

    I have very few of my old floppies, they fall in the mother of all battles... mother VS cleaning "dudecave" even the He-Man and GI-Joe elite units fall in combat, one minute of silence for them sure are now in a better place [sm=innocent0004.gif] or not

    In the end i only have an old copy of a football manager (soccer in the other side) and practically nothing more because all my wargames come in CDs in 90s... but i remember a friend pass me a game in 20 floppies, i dont remember what name because one of the floppies was damage... and you sure know what was the problematic [:@]




    berto -> RE: The Countdown Thread -- Crazy is as crazy does (9/18/2015 8:58:54 PM)


    More glimpses behind the curtain, a series of recent posts in the dev forum:

    quote:

    ORIGINAL: berto

    The good news: Hot off the presses, I have successfully ftp downloaded the CampaignSeriesMiddleEast-SetupRelease-v100.exe.

    The bad news: I can't do anything with it without a serial # -- which I don't have yet.

    Stumped for now, until I get a functioning serial #.

    [sm=Christo_pull_hair.gif]

    quote:

    ORIGINAL: berto

    Never mind. Found the serial #. Game installation is proceeding...

    quote:

    ORIGINAL: berto

    [:D]

    [image]local://upfiles/5869/BD43CAC6D73E48B5A57E2338F73302B9.jpg[/image]

    Now to see if it works, now to commence the testing...

    quote:

    ORIGINAL: berto

    First cschkinstall.pl results are in and ... looking good! I will post results later [here] at the dev forum.

    Now running csdifdir.pl.

    Haven't actually tried running the game yet.

    Still testing...

    quote:

    ORIGINAL: berto

    cschkinstall.pl results...



    Robert@roberto ~/cslint
    $ ./cschkinstall.pl +n +w +e -g me 2>&1 > cschkinstall.20150918.out

    ...

    Robert@roberto ~/cslint
    $ egrep -i "error" cschkinstall.20150918.out
    [nil]



    No errors!

    A good number of "mtime difference" warnings:



    Robert@roberto ~/cslint
    $ egrep "mtime difference" cschkinstall.20150918.out
    WARNING: file _isdel.exe mtime difference
    WARNING: file dxsetup.exe mtime difference
    WARNING: file graphics/animate3d.bmp mtime difference
    WARNING: file graphics/bases3d30.bmp mtime difference
    WARNING: file graphics/bases4d30.bmp mtime difference
    WARNING: file graphics/bases5d30.bmp mtime difference
    WARNING: file graphics/campleader9.bmp mtime difference
    WARNING: file graphics/des-mudsanddune3d.bmp mtime difference
    WARNING: file graphics/des-mudsanddune4d.bmp mtime difference
    WARNING: file graphics/des-mudsanddune5d.bmp mtime difference
    WARNING: file graphics/des-terrain3d.bmp mtime difference
    WARNING: file graphics/leader9.bmp mtime difference
    WARNING: file graphics/mp226507.bmp mtime difference
    WARNING: file graphics/mp236043.bmp mtime difference
    WARNING: file graphics/mp236803.bmp mtime difference
    WARNING: file graphics/mp246071.bmp mtime difference
    ...
    WARNING: file graphics/up308807.bmp mtime difference
    WARNING: file graphics/up309005.bmp mtime difference
    WARNING: file graphics/up309006.bmp mtime difference
    WARNING: file graphics/xp086807.bmp mtime difference
    WARNING: file jsgme.exe mtime difference
    WARNING: file manual/sumatrapdf.exe mtime difference
    WARNING: file me.exe mtime difference
    WARNING: file meedit.exe mtime difference
    WARNING: file memap.exe mtime difference
    WARNING: file meorg.exe mtime difference
    WARNING: file middle east.exe mtime difference
    WARNING: file oobs/campaign24.oob mtime difference
    WARNING: file oobs/campaign26.oob mtime difference
    WARNING: file oobs/campaign29.oob mtime difference
    WARNING: file scenarios/assadlcg_2.org mtime difference
    WARNING: file scenarios/assadlcg_5.org mtime difference
    WARNING: file scenarios/jenin_1948.org mtime difference
    WARNING: file scenarios/jenin_1967.org mtime difference
    WARNING: file scenarios/ramat_rachel_1948.org mtime difference
    WARNING: file scenarios/ramtha_1970.org mtime difference
    WARNING: file scenarios/suezlcg_01.org mtime difference
    WARNING: file sounds/0weapon2.ogg mtime difference
    WARNING: file sounds/1weapon0.ogg mtime difference
    WARNING: file sounds/1weapon1.ogg mtime difference
    WARNING: file sounds/1weapon3.ogg mtime difference
    WARNING: file sounds/27weapon0.ogg mtime difference
    WARNING: file sounds/27weapon2.ogg mtime difference
    WARNING: file sounds/27weapon4.ogg mtime difference
    WARNING: file sounds/2weapon1.ogg mtime difference
    WARNING: file sounds/2weapon3.ogg mtime difference
    WARNING: file sounds/33weapon0.ogg mtime difference
    WARNING: file sounds/4weapon2.ogg mtime difference
    WARNING: file sounds/6weapon0.ogg mtime difference
    WARNING: file tools/jsgme/jsgme.exe mtime difference
    WARNING: file tools/jtcs_unitviewer/jtcs_unitviewer.exe mtime difference



    But not to worry, as the csdifdir.pl results will show shortly.

    Excluding those "mtime difference" warnings:



    Robert@roberto ~/cslint
    $ cat cschkinstall.20150918.out | egrep -v "(me|meedit|memap|meorg|middle east)\.exe.*difference" | egrep -v "mtime difference"
    WARNING: file autoplay/audio/1015.wav not found in ref DB
    WARNING: file autoplay/audio/1050.wav not found in ref DB
    WARNING: file autoplay/audio/click1.ogg not found in ref DB
    WARNING: file autoplay/audio/high1.ogg not found in ref DB
    WARNING: file autoplay/autorun.cdd not found in ref DB
    WARNING: file autoplay/buttons/_manifest.xml not found in ref DB
    WARNING: file autoplay/buttons/buttons.btn not found in ref DB
    WARNING: file autoplay/icons/desktopicon.ico not found in ref DB
    WARNING: file autoplay/images/gamemenu.jpg not found in ref DB
    WARNING: file autorun.exe not found in ref DB
    WARNING: file autorun.inf not found in ref DB
    WARNING: file desktopicon.ico not found in ref DB
    WARNING: file end users agreement.pdf not found in ref DB
    WARNING: file lua5.1.dll not found in ref DB
    WARNING: file lua51.dll not found in ref DB
    WARNING: file matrixgames.ico not found in ref DB
    WARNING: file readme.doc not found in ref DB
    WARNING: file registeryourgame.url not found in ref DB
    WARNING: file serialreg.txt not found in ref DB
    WARNING: file uninstall/irimg1.bmp not found in ref DB
    WARNING: file uninstall/irimg1.jpg not found in ref DB
    WARNING: file uninstall/uninstall.dat not found in ref DB
    WARNING: file uninstall/uninstall.xml not found in ref DB
    WARNING: file update.dat not found in ref DB
    WARNING: file update.exe not found in ref DB
    WARNING: file whatsnew.pdf not found in ref DB
    WARNING: file _isdel.exe size difference
    WARNING: file _isdel.exe cksum difference
    WARNING: file dxsetup.exe size difference
    WARNING: file dxsetup.exe cksum difference
    WARNING: file graphics has bad extension
    WARNING: file graphics/sides3d.bmp newer than graphics/sidesnight3d.bmp
    file graphics/sides3d.bmp 1436750164, file graphics/sidesnight3d.bmp 1435940128
    WARNING: file manual/sumatrapdf.exe size difference
    WARNING: file manual/sumatrapdf.exe cksum difference
    WARNING: file oobs/leader8.oob has bad name
    WARNING: file oobs/leader9.oob has bad name
    WARNING: file tools/jtcs_unitviewer/jtcs_unitviewer.exe size difference
    WARNING: file tools/jtcs_unitviewer/jtcs_unitviewer.exe cksum difference



    These are

  • bits and pieces that Matrix added in the installer
  • else earlier warnings, all of them innocuous

    In other words, the cschkinstall.pl results are looking good!

    Now the csdifdir.pl results...



    Robert@roberto ~/cslint
    $ ./csdifdir.pl "/cygdrive/f/Games/Matrix Games/Middle East/middle_east 20150906pm" "/cygdrive/c/Games/Matrix Games/Campaign Series Middle East" 2>&1 > csdifdir.out

    Robert@roberto ~/cslint
    $ cat csdifdir.out
    autoplay/audio/1015.wav added
    autoplay/audio/1050.wav added
    autoplay/audio/click1.ogg added
    autoplay/audio/high1.ogg added
    autoplay/autorun.cdd added
    autoplay/buttons/_manifest.xml added
    autoplay/buttons/buttons.btn added
    autoplay/icons/desktopicon.ico added
    autoplay/images/gamemenu.jpg added
    autorun.exe added
    autorun.inf added
    desktopicon.ico added
    end users agreement.pdf added
    lua5.1.dll added
    lua51.dll added
    matrixgames.ico added
    readme.doc added
    registeryourgame.url added
    serialreg.txt added
    uninstall/irimg1.bmp added
    uninstall/irimg1.jpg added
    uninstall/uninstall.dat added
    uninstall/uninstall.xml added
    update.dat added
    update.exe added
    whatsnew.pdf added
    _isdel.exe differs
    dxsetup.exe differs
    jsgme.exe differs
    manual/sumatrapdf.exe differs
    me.exe differs
    meedit.exe differs
    memap.exe differs
    meorg.exe differs
    middle east.exe differs
    tools/jsgme/jsgme.exe differs
    tools/jtcs_unitviewer/jtcs_unitviewer.exe differs



    Apart from the expected game EXE diffs, and diffs in some of the auxiliary EXEs, the above all appear to be Matrix installer additions.

    I would conclude:

  • no, or no significant, deliberate or accidental file deletions
  • apparently legitimate installer file additions
  • the earlier "mtime difference" that cschkinstall.pl reports are all innocuous, because csdifdir.pl indicates the files are in fact the same (apart from different modification times, and no report of any checksum diffs, other than expected ones for EXEs)

    So far, so good!

  • quote:

    ORIGINAL: berto

    [:D]

    [image]local://upfiles/5869/6649C7AD45AA4782AEDE07B70D5233F4.jpg[/image]

    Clicking on "Game Manual" does in fact successfully launch the PDF viewer and display the game Manual.

    quote:

    ORIGINAL: berto

    Clicking on "Play Game" does indeed start up the Middle East.exe frontend launcher:

    [image]local://upfiles/5869/568D804B9EAC4065B8DD0F13325E388F.jpg[/image]

    ...




    berto -> RE: The Countdown Thread -- Crazy is as crazy does (9/18/2015 9:00:18 PM)


    Culminating with:

    quote:

    ORIGINAL: berto

    The proof is in the actual game engine launching...

    [image]local://upfiles/5869/EF535FBCE9A0409788DAF2C0BD8FADA7.jpg[/image]

    [:D]

    quote:

    ORIGINAL: berto

    Okay, so far, so good, so very very good.

    But we're not done vetting this quite yet.

    Building on the vetting and play testing we've done over the past several weeks, we still require

  • Repeating the full suite of automated crash tests (Crossroads, berto).
  • Jason doing his show-and-tell's.
  • A last round of play testing.

    Let's do it!




  • berto -> RE: The Countdown Thread -- Crazy is as crazy does (9/18/2015 9:07:33 PM)


    Is it too soon to start the formal 10, 9, 8, 7, ... countdown?

    With a side-long glance at Mr. Murphy, the [sm=00000643.gif] himself, why yes, I would say it's still a bit too soon.

    But closing in on this, oh so very close!




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