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R35 -> RE: New Units for PC (11/30/2015 10:52:22 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brazenman

Dear R-35

author wrote:

About the Bundeswehr units

Than I stop my work here. Our old deal was to set all your wishes - you work for some WW3 packets.


I offered to assemble 20 of your modern units if you release renders for 4 Slovak units:
http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=3348600&mpage=27&key=
You released renders for 6 Slovak units and also renders for 61 modern units (including switch versions). It was much more than what I offered to do at that moment, but I completed them anyway. That is done.

Now, I seriously don`t have time to work on another project other than this one and I might have even less time in the coming weeks and next year. I have actually considered whether I can continue with the ww2 mod alone or would have to stop, but I decided to keep trying so as not to leave it unfinished. If you want to have a completed project for ww2 I`m willing to continue implementing the artwork for as long as I`m able to.

Question: why don`t you try making the modern world mod for a more complex engine, like the one of OoBP which gives you the opportunity to work in 3d too? Honestly, the PzC engine would leave much to be desired for in modern combat given the very large ranges of some units and the specifics of modern aerial/anti-aerial combat. OoBP from what I`ve read distinguishes between different altitudes and that would be important in a mod that has high altitude bombers, tactical fighters and helicopters so that you don`t take down a B-2 with a 20mm gun or a helicopter. I`m sure the OoBP engine has its limitations too, but overall it sounds more appropriate for what you want to make.




T2_2112 -> RE: New Units for PC (11/30/2015 11:18:09 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: R35
Question: why don`t you try making the modern world mod for a more complex engine, like the one of OoBP which gives you the opportunity to work in 3d too? Honestly, the PzC engine would leave much to be desired for in modern combat given the very large ranges of some units and the specifics of modern aerial/anti-aerial combat. OoBP from what I`ve read distinguishes between different altitudes and that would be important in a mod that has high altitude bombers, tactical fighters and helicopters so that you don`t take down a B-2 with a 20mm gun or a helicopter. I`m sure the OoBP engine has its limitations too, but overall it sounds more appropriate for what you want to make.


You know how to MOD Order of Battle: Pacific ??




Brazenman -> RE: New Units for PC (12/3/2015 5:18:33 AM)

R-35

WW3 Bundeswehr packet 2-5

FlaRakPz Roland
[image]http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/29020018/FlaRakPzRolandUC.png[/image]

LARS
[image]http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/29020019/LARSUC.png[/image]

Leopard 1A4
[image]http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/29020020/Leopard1A4UC.png[/image]

M109
[image]http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/29020024/M109UC.png[/image]

M113
[image]http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/29020028/M113UC.png[/image]

M577
[image]http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/29020030/M577UC.png[/image]

Marder
[image]http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/29020032/MarderUC.png[/image]

Link for new units
https://www.sendspace.com/file/ttjsnq




Brazenman -> RE: New Units for PC (12/3/2015 5:26:38 AM)

R-35

37 mm automatic air defense gun M1939 (61-K)
reworked !!!
[image]http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/29020036/37mmautomaticairdefensegunM193961-K.png[/image]


Link for new unit
https://www.sendspace.com/file/z4yvv3




Brazenman -> RE: New Units for PC (12/3/2015 5:29:11 AM)

R-35

Type 90 75mm Field Guns
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_90_75_mm_Field_Gun
[image]http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/29020042/Type9075mmFieldGunsUC.png[/image]

Link for new unit
https://www.sendspace.com/file/4g4cza




R35 -> RE: New Units for PC (12/3/2015 12:07:46 PM)

Thank you!

@Brazenman what should the purpose be for the Soviet Seep (Ford GPA)? Is it meant to be another unarmed recon or is it a transport? If it`s a transport, what does it carry/tow? And btw when did it enter Soviet service?




Zhenka -> RE: New Units for PC (12/3/2015 5:15:20 PM)

Guys please make anti-tank for unit
GAZ AA 25mm M1940
Now this is not available




Brazenman -> RE: New Units for PC (12/4/2015 5:13:41 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: R35

Thank you!

@Brazenman what should the purpose be for the Soviet Seep (Ford GPA)? Is it meant to be another unarmed recon or is it a transport? If it`s a transport, what does it carry/tow? And btw when did it enter Soviet service?


Car Amphibian Ford GPA was intended as a multipurpose car for passing the wide water obstacles

These cars have been successfully used during amphibious operations and reconnaissance as combat outpost of infantry units and liaison officers as a reliable means of transportation in a combat situation.

Ford GPA began to enter for Red Army service at the end of 1943

I think that Ford GPA can be used as transport for soviet SMG infantry and soviet engineers




R35 -> RE: New Units for PC (12/4/2015 11:29:28 AM)

Thank you! Do you happen to know its operational speed? Some sites give 105km/h on road. The problem is that this would translate to 11 hex movement in game which is more than most if not all other land units. Together with a relatively cheap price (it`s just a basic small car/light truck) and its amphibious movement ability it makes this the best choice for an unarmoured truck in the game. And I think that`s off the mark in the Seep`s case.




Razz1 -> RE: New Units for PC (12/4/2015 10:26:38 PM)

How about this one for AT?

https://www.sendspace.com/file/wnp664

GAZ_AAA_4M_AA_AT.png




R35 -> RE: New Units for PC (12/4/2015 10:43:32 PM)

@Razz that one is already included. I think the user meant the GAZ_AA_25mm_72-K, which indeed, has no AT version. The problem with that though is that the truck cabin is higher than the gun mount thus preventing it from leveling its barrel. The only solution would be to have it shoot backwards and I could then add the backfire trait in the text file so that the unit flips when firing in game. I don`t know if it`s worth the trouble though.

Btw, it`s a work in progress, but hopefully the next version will have the units grouped by nation and class, instead of having the new units added at the end of the file in whichever order they were released. This means that in game you`ll see a more logical order in the recruitment panel instead of having the newly added units appear at the end of the line even if technologically they were older than the previous units. Also, the editor should be much easier to use when you want to add a new unit since you now just go to the section of the faction you want and navigate depending on the unit`s class order.

For example, the Polish 100mm now follows the 75mm in the recruitment line instead of being at the end and the horse transport is the first available transport, before the truck.

It gets better with factions like Romania which had only a handful of units in vanilla PzC, but a lot of them brought by the mod.


[image]local://upfiles/45820/B42EE96BA7CB4D3BA38E17106FAB8851.jpg[/image]




Razz1 -> RE: New Units for PC (12/5/2015 12:31:21 AM)

Then how about this one?

https://www.sendspace.com/file/g7xru1

GAZ_AA_25mm_72-K_AT.png (75,-19) (-75,-19) (-55,-18) (-13,-16) ATlight1 ATlight1 ZIS-5_1


2175 Z25mm SPAA 3 125 4 60 6 1 0 4 2 3 -8 -1 2 5 0 1 3 GAZ_AA_25mm_72-K_AT.png 01.11.1940 01.01.1946 7 11 Z25mm SPAA nopurchase backfire RSPAA sea rail air

I try to follow the order you listed above, but I follow year of entry and unit manufacturer if possible.




Brazenman -> RE: New Units for PC (12/5/2015 7:35:41 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Razz

Then how about this one?

https://www.sendspace.com/file/g7xru1

GAZ_AA_25mm_72-K_AT.png (75,-19) (-75,-19) (-55,-18) (-13,-16) ATlight1 ATlight1 ZIS-5_1


2175 Z25mm SPAA 3 125 4 60 6 1 0 4 2 3 -8 -1 2 5 0 1 3 GAZ_AA_25mm_72-K_AT.png 01.11.1940 01.01.1946 7 11 Z25mm SPAA nopurchase backfire RSPAA sea rail air

I try to follow the order you listed above, but I follow year of entry and unit manufacturer if possible.



Excellent
Thank you

Could you make anti-tank regime for
T-90_SPAAG
Soviet_M16_MGMC
SdKfz 7/2
also
please




Brazenman -> RE: New Units for PC (12/5/2015 7:39:32 AM)

Modern War Corps

Royal Army Packet 1-5
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_armoured_reconnaissance_vehicle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvis_Saladin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvis_Saracen
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warrior_tracked_armoured_vehicle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FV432
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FV103_Spartan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FV105_Sultan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FV102_Striker
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FV433_Abbot_SPG
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saxon_%28vehicle%29

Saxon
[image]http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/29037177/SaxonUC.png[/image]
FV721 Fox
[image]http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/29037187/FV721FoxUC.png[/image]
FV603 Saracen
[image]http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/29037193/FV603SaracenUC.png[/image]
FV601 Saladin
[image]http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/29037194/FV601SaladinUC.png[/image]
FV510 Warrior
[image]http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/29037197/FV510WarriorUC.png[/image]
FV433 Abbot
[image]http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/29037199/FV433AbbotUC.png[/image]
FV432
[image]http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/29037225/FV432UC.png[/image]
FV105 Sultan
[image]http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/29037227/FV105SultanUC.png[/image]
FV103 Spartan
[image]http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/29037238/FV103SpartanUC.png[/image]
FV102 Striker
[image]http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/29037239/FV102StrikerUC.png[/image]

Link for new units
https://www.sendspace.com/file/pwzfab




Brazenman -> RE: New Units for PC (12/5/2015 7:41:13 AM)

Modern War Corps

Royal Army Packet 2-5
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Challenger_1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FV107_Scimitar
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L118_light_gun
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapier_%28missile%29
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinzgauer_High-Mobility_All-Terrain_Vehicle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvis_Stalwart
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amphibisches_Br%C3%BCcken-_und_%C3%9Cbersetzfahrzeug_M2
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FV101_Scorpion
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chieftain_tank

Alvis Stalwart HMLC
[image]http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/29037577/AlvisStalwartHMLCUC.png[/image]
FV101 Scorpion
[image]http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/29037593/FV4030ChallengerUC.png[/image]
FV 4030 Challenger
[image]http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/29037596/FV101ScorpionUC.png[/image]
FV107 Scimitar
[image]http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/29037601/FV107ScimitarUC.png[/image]
FV4201 Chieftain
[image]http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/29037605/FV4201ChieftainUC.png[/image]
L118 light gun
[image]http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/29037685/L118lightgunUC.png[/image]
M2 Alligator
[image]http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/29037689/M2AlligatorWaterUC.png[/image]
[image]http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/29037697/M2AlligatorUC.png[/image]
Pinzgauer 710
[image]http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/29037702/Pinzgauer710UC.png[/image]
Rapier Towed
[image]http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/29037706/RapierTowedUC.png[/image]
Rapier Tracked
[image]http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/29037712/RapierTrackedUC.png[/image]


Link for new units
https://www.sendspace.com/file/m7s84s




Brazenman -> RE: New Units for PC (12/5/2015 9:07:54 AM)

Dear R-35

Do you have a finished version Gas-67?
Please could you make a link for me

As for Ford GPA
I have the following data
Maximum speed: on the highway - 80 km / h, afloat - 8.8 km / h.
http://militaryarms.ru/voennaya-texnika/boevye-mashiny/legkij-plavayushhij-avtomobil-ford-gpa-seep/




R35 -> RE: New Units for PC (12/5/2015 10:06:39 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Razz
I try to follow the order you listed above, but I follow year of entry and unit manufacturer if possible.

Hopefully not the horse-power too or I`m gonna be in trouble. [:D] For now I`ll just do a grouping and basic rearranging (the Panzer IVC will appear before the IVD, the Panzer 35(t) before the Panzer 38(t), the Hs-123 will be at the start of the lineup, the Greek infantry will appear before the Greek mountain infantry and so on). They can be adjusted further later on.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brazenman
As for Ford GPA
I have the following data
Maximum speed: on the highway - 80 km / h, afloat - 8.8 km / h.

Thank you! That`s much more appropriate for this game.

EDIT: do you happen to know the entry into service dates of the following soviet units?
B-25B
A-20G
Studebaker US6




Brazenman -> RE: New Units for PC (12/6/2015 7:11:13 AM)

R-35

Type 98 20mm AA
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_98_20_mm_AA_machine_cannon
[image]http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/29046740/Type9820mmAA.png[/image]

link for new unit
https://www.sendspace.com/file/ezz1xh




Brazenman -> RE: New Units for PC (12/6/2015 7:13:43 AM)

R-36

Type 88 75 mm AA
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_88_75_mm_AA_Gun
[image]http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/29046757/Type8875mmAAUC.png[/image]
Link for new unit
https://www.sendspace.com/file/d3jmtn




Brazenman -> RE: New Units for PC (12/6/2015 7:15:58 AM)

Modern War Corps

Royal Army Packet 3-5


Bedford MJ Radio
[image]http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/29046819/BedfordMJRadioUC.png[/image]
Bedford MJ
[image]http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/29046820/BedfordMJUC.png[/image]
Chieftain AVLB
[image]http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/29046828/ChieftainAVLBUC.png[/image]
FH-70 150mm
[image]http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/29046833/FH-70150mmUC.png[/image]
FV432 L7-A2-GMPG
[image]http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/29046838/FV432L7-A2-GMPGUC.png[/image]
M109A2
[image]http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/29046841/M109A2UC.png[/image]
M110A2
[image]http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/29046845/M110A2UC.png[/image]
M119 105mm
[image]http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/29046848/M119105mmUC.png[/image]
MLRS
[image]http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/29046852/MLRSUC.png[/image]
RWMIK Land Rover
[image]http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/29046856/RWMIKLandRoverUC.png[/image]

Link for new units
https://www.sendspace.com/file/7slxm8




Brazenman -> RE: New Units for PC (12/6/2015 7:51:04 AM)

R-35

Studebaker US6 - Autumn 1941
B-25B "Mitchell" - March 1942
A-20G "Boston" - October 1942




R35 -> RE: New Units for PC (12/6/2015 12:22:38 PM)

Thank you for the units! The Type 98 is superb!

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brazenman

R-35

Studebaker US6 - Autumn 1941
B-25B "Mitchell" - March 1942
A-20G "Boston" - October 1942

Thank you! That is very helpful. Would you be willing to research the entry into service dates for the rest of the soviet units? I think the earliest vanilla date is 1.1.1939 even though some of the units had been in service for longer than that. For the new units that were added by the mod I tried to find the exact date, but it would be useful if someone with better access to the info can check them out.

I`ve finished grouping all the units together depending on faction and class and they`re now easy to find in the editor and look better in the recruitment panel I think. Further adjustments can be made of course. Here`s the German recon line for example:


[image]local://upfiles/45820/0D789667E1DA4A169A97D0E69E6B99FF.jpg[/image]




Razz1 -> RE: New Units for PC (12/6/2015 6:04:12 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: R35

quote:

ORIGINAL: Razz
I try to follow the order you listed above, but I follow year of entry and unit manufacturer if possible.

Hopefully not the horse-power too or I`m gonna be in trouble. [:D] For now I`ll just do a grouping and basic rearranging (the Panzer IVC will appear before the IVD, the Panzer 35(t) before the Panzer 38(t), the Hs-123 will be at the start of the lineup, the Greek infantry will appear before the Greek mountain infantry and so on). They can be adjusted further later on.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brazenman
As for Ford GPA
I have the following data
Maximum speed: on the highway - 80 km / h, afloat - 8.8 km / h.

Thank you! That`s much more appropriate for this game.

EDIT: do you happen to know the entry into service dates of the following soviet units?
B-25B
A-20G
Studebaker US6


I actually have the 38t as Anti tank class and series MarderIII. It has the Rott trait.
This was it is realistic. Since the 38t is powerful early game the change in class does not effect is much.

This way we can get some experience in the AT class and upgrade for future use.

The B-25B Had additional gun armament. The B-25 Mitchell was first use in combat was on December 24, 1941 when one sunk a Japanese submarine.

A20-G Attack version Had a solid nose. Martin electrical powered dorsal turret. The 20mm cannon was unreliable and replaced by machine guns. First delivered in Feb 43. At this time I do not know combat service. I usually bump it one or two months for entry service in Panzer Corps. Aircraft of WWII, Stewart Wilson, 1998

The Studebaker was produce in 1941




Karaganov -> RE: New Units for PC (12/6/2015 6:46:25 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Razz

The B-25B Had additional gun armament. The B-25 Mitchell was first use in combat was on December 24, 1941 when one sunk a Japanese submarine.

A20-G Attack version Had a solid nose. Martin electrical powered dorsal turret. The 20mm cannon was unreliable and replaced by machine guns. First delivered in Feb 43. At this time I do not know combat service. I usually bump it one or two months for entry service in Panzer Corps. Aircraft of WWII, Stewart Wilson, 1998

The Studebaker was produce in 1941


I understand he was talking about Red Army (Lend-Lease)
Accordingly, it is a little different dates




Razz1 -> RE: New Units for PC (12/6/2015 7:00:50 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brazenman

quote:

ORIGINAL: Razz

Then how about this one?

https://www.sendspace.com/file/g7xru1

GAZ_AA_25mm_72-K_AT.png (75,-19) (-75,-19) (-55,-18) (-13,-16) ATlight1 ATlight1 ZIS-5_1


2175 Z25mm SPAA 3 125 4 60 6 1 0 4 2 3 -8 -1 2 5 0 1 3 GAZ_AA_25mm_72-K_AT.png 01.11.1940 01.01.1946 7 11 Z25mm SPAA nopurchase backfire RSPAA sea rail air

I try to follow the order you listed above, but I follow year of entry and unit manufacturer if possible.



Excellent
Thank you

Could you make anti-tank regime for
T-90_SPAAG
Soviet_M16_MGMC
SdKfz 7/2
also
please


2176 M16 MGMC 5 217 6 80 7 1 0 3 3 1 -10 -1 2 3 0 1 3 Soviet_M16_MGMC.png 4.11.1943 1.1.1946 1 backfire 1270

https://www.sendspace.com/file/91ue9t

Here is the entry for the original unit, so we can switch it.

1270 M16 MGMC 3 207 10 80 8 1 2 4 -4 -1 13 -1 2 4 0 1 3 Soviet_M16_MGMC_AT.png 4.11.1943 1.1.1946 1 2176


IF YOU USED THE DATA ABOVE FOR M16 MGMC, PLEASE use the corrected data above. I updated it.




Razz1 -> RE: New Units for PC (12/6/2015 7:52:24 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Karaganov


quote:

ORIGINAL: Razz

The B-25B Had additional gun armament. The B-25 Mitchell was first use in combat was on December 24, 1941 when one sunk a Japanese submarine.

A20-G Attack version Had a solid nose. Martin electrical powered dorsal turret. The 20mm cannon was unreliable and replaced by machine guns. First delivered in Feb 43. At this time I do not know combat service. I usually bump it one or two months for entry service in Panzer Corps. Aircraft of WWII, Stewart Wilson, 1998

The Studebaker was produce in 1941


I understand he was talking about Red Army (Lend-Lease)
Accordingly, it is a little different dates


101 B-25s were delivered to the USSR through the Persian corridor in 1942 and 23 in 1943.

For additional reading on the subject of delivery of lend-lease aircraft through the Persian Corridor, go to T. H. Vail Motter, The Persian Corridor and Aid to Russia, chapter VII (Washington: Government Printing Office, 1952). According to this chapter, the first B-25s arrived at Basra on 12 March 1942. This volume is one of the Army “Green-book” series, the official history of the US Army’s participation in World War II.

So add another month to get them operational. Most likely it was later than that.




Razz1 -> RE: New Units for PC (12/7/2015 12:30:07 AM)


Here we go for the T-90 SPAA AT

https://www.sendspace.com/file/y1qob0





Brazenman -> RE: New Units for PC (12/7/2015 7:21:17 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Razz


Here we go for the T-90 SPAA AT

https://www.sendspace.com/file/y1qob0





Razz
Thank you

I'm sorry, but the author is strongly opposed order to someone else worked with his unit graphics. That is his position. This is unacceptable for him. I'm sorry, but we have to accept this.




Brazenman -> RE: New Units for PC (12/7/2015 7:30:08 AM)

R-35

Type 3 Ho-Ni III
http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/jap/Type_3_Ho-Ni-III.php
[image]http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/29057542/Type1Ho-NiIIIUC.png[/image]
Link for new unit
https://www.sendspace.com/file/7inkq6



Type 2 Ke-To
http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/jap/Type_98_Ke-Ni.php
[image]http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/29057545/Type2Ke-ToUC.png[/image]
Link for new unit
https://www.sendspace.com/file/z06m3n




Brazenman -> RE: New Units for PC (12/7/2015 11:51:07 AM)

R-35

Shohatsu Landing Craft
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shohatsu-class_landing_craft
[image]http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/29058952/ShohatsuLandingCraftUC.png[/image]
Link for new unit
https://www.sendspace.com/file/jtshp1




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