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sillyflower -> RE: SILLY's SWANSONG NO BRIAN G (4/14/2017 12:36:58 PM)
Correct and the game has slowed down a lot due to Brian having a RL

sillyflower -> RE: SILLY's SWANSONG NO BRIAN G (4/14/2017 12:40:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain supercalifragilisticexpialidocious Did you copy and paste this from somewhere or does the USMC think of little other than Mary Poppins [&:][:D]

AppendixSE -> RE: SILLY's SWANSONG NO BRIAN G (4/14/2017 12:43:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sillyflower Correct and the game has slowed down a lot due to Brian having a RL Isn't that quite fancy of him :D

sillyflower -> RE: SILLY's SWANSONG NO BRIAN G (4/16/2017 10:23:24 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AppendixSE quote: ORIGINAL: sillyflower Correct and the game has slowed down a lot due to Brian having a RL Isn't that quite fancy of him :D Indeed. Not really compatible with being a true gamer, but these days we must celebrate diversity in the Wite community.

sillyflower -> RE: SILLY's SWANSONG NO BRIAN G (4/16/2017 9:31:47 PM)
Back to the game No action to see once more so here are a couple of high level pics. [image]local://upfiles/35790/CB0D6A52B6084FF8BC4B2B2BD63CC32D.jpg[/image] Hatched area shows roughly the area conquered in my northern O.What can't be seen is about a Front's worth of R casualties

sillyflower -> RE: SILLY's SWANSONG NO BRIAN G (4/16/2017 9:36:13 PM)
south/east [image]local://upfiles/35790/8A770DBFDDA340099B8528C76359BD1A.jpg[/image] The Brianites have advanced a few hexes (not hex rows) in the last few turns but he hasn't tried to do a proper O to take ground.

sillyflower -> RE: SILLY's SWANSONG NO BRIAN G (4/17/2017 8:20:55 PM)
some stats [image]local://upfiles/35790/5881D1D9F35746C6B83E55CD15001689.jpg[/image]

sillyflower -> RE: SILLY's SWANSONG NO BRIAN G (4/17/2017 8:21:50 PM)
air losses to date [image]local://upfiles/35790/C6E9B46A0A4943E3AF00AB20E2A2BE27.jpg[/image]

sillyflower -> RE: SILLY's SWANSONG NO BRIAN G (4/18/2017 8:13:40 PM)
more numbers [image]local://upfiles/35790/26366F26ED45464E80278C6702B7E8F5.jpg[/image]

sillyflower -> RE: SILLY's SWANSONG NO BRIAN G (4/18/2017 8:14:27 PM)
units destroyed [image]local://upfiles/35790/56350E4B16984E8E85D67EA09DA33F86.jpg[/image] Most of the axis withdrawal units are Italians and a few Jerries, but I also I have far more construction units than I need. In particular, I do not need 5 fully-manned FBDs

AppendixSE -> RE: SILLY's SWANSONG NO BRIAN G (4/18/2017 11:12:23 PM)
One can't help but wonder at what stage Russia would collapse. Is this that state or would they always fight to the bitter end? Considering the prolonged fight of the "whites" in the civil war I wonder if that isn't just the case. The main question then being when the organised state collapses into splintered and isolated action. I would probably say losing a front at this stage would lead to a coup (if it didn't happen earlier). And life after stalin might produce a situation like WWI Russia after the Tsar. Extremely interesting AAR and I am surprised of the amount of hurt the Russians can soak up and still be able to have localized parity.

sillyflower -> RE: SILLY's SWANSONG NO BRIAN G (4/19/2017 2:01:17 PM)
Thank you for your kind words. The answer to the question 'when and how would the USSR disintegrate?' is one of the great known unknowns - at least until the very different circumstances of some 50 years later. The reasons for localised parity are first and foremost date-based national morale changes, and secondly free unit returns. Increased numbers of R artillery pieces do a lot to drive up axis casualties in combat as the game goes on.

Zecke -> RE: SILLY's SWANSONG NO BRIAN G (4/19/2017 2:22:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sillyflower Thank you for your kind words. The answer to the question 'when and how would the USSR disintegrate?' is one of the great known unknowns - at least until the very different circumstances of some 50 years later. The reasons for localised parity are first and foremost date-based national morale changes, and secondly free unit returns. Increased numbers of R artillery pieces do a lot to drive up axis casualties in combat as the game goes on. quote: Flower keep on going� more smileys..

sillyflower -> RE: SILLY's SWANSONG NO BRIAN G (4/20/2017 1:43:31 PM)
German production porn. Look at my huge numbers [image]local://upfiles/35790/C04D76880C5E4500B8F6EEABABF3AE78.jpg[/image]

sillyflower -> RE: SILLY's SWANSONG NO BRIAN G (4/21/2017 5:01:07 PM)
I have done a bit of Pelton-style hex counting. I believe there are 74 non-mud turns before the game ends. The nearest Brianite troops are 100 hexes from Berlin. They were a bit closer before my northern offensive.

sillyflower -> RE: SILLY's SWANSONG NO BRIAN G (4/23/2017 10:07:40 AM)
Thoughts on the northern O. It started on T92 and lasted for 17 weeks. During that time Brianite losses in the area were 17 xxx, 18 xx (many were broken-down xxx) 6 x and 3 SUs: somewhat over a full-strength Front. Many of the G losses incurred were replace by the swarms of HIWIs coming out of the POW camps. The Red Air Force also got quite a good kicking. Despite these losses, the Russian OOB only fell by about 70K over this period, but the G OOB increased by the same amount so by the end the R OOB of 5.65M was only just over 25% bigger than G's of 4.38M, and the Brianites are further away than ever from Berlin. I'm happy that this was the right O to have made. Charging into the empty wastes in the east would not have had the same results, not least because R mobile forces become much more effective in '43, and effective flank protection would not have been feasible. I think the game is pretty-much stalemated at the moment. I certainly don't intend to bash the Wehrmacht against a brick wall for no strategic gain, and will adopt Manstein's strategy of smacking the enemy if they expose themselves coming after me. It is now early August but I can't see Brian being able to mount more than nuisance attacks taking a little ground here and there, mainly in the unimportant east, before the winter. He has quite a few tank and cavalry xxx, but I've only seen 1 mech xxx and not a single artillery xx or x. If he goes on the offensive, his manpower losses will climb and his truck position will worsen - especially if I can bash his tank units. I will offer Brian the chance to end it here. However, if he wants to play on it would be unacceptable bad manners for me to quit after he's had to put up with being kicked around for just over 2 years - which is only the first half of the game. It would be interesting to see how many VPs I can hang onto.

charlie0311 -> RE: SILLY's SWANSONG NO BRIAN G (4/23/2017 12:43:50 PM)
Thx Silly, for letting me off the beans. Go Brian

sillyflower -> RE: SILLY's SWANSONG NO BRIAN G (4/23/2017 1:29:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: charlie0311 Go Brian Write something like this again Charlie, and you won't even be allowed beans anymore [:-] [;)]

bigbaba -> RE: SILLY's SWANSONG NO BRIAN G (4/23/2017 5:35:03 PM)
the map Looks realy scary. i wish i can achieve half of your succes in our game silly.:) btw: a big fat congratulation to Brian who kept fighting when most of the other Gamers would have waved the White fkag Long ago.

sillyflower -> RE: SILLY's SWANSONG NO BRIAN G (4/24/2017 11:22:34 AM)
Fifty Shades of WiTE? Brian wants to carry on until the end, and then to play Hardluckyetagain. He obviously has been influenced/inspired by a recent (in)famous book and film [sm=fighting0056.gif][sm=fighting0056.gif][sm=fighting0056.gif]

charlie0311 -> RE: SILLY's SWANSONG NO BRIAN G (4/24/2017 1:27:25 PM)
Naughty, naughty Sillyflower, be nice to my precious Brian, or, or, or something, but I forgot again.. Maybe Hard Luck will relent with the "magical" rail line. Kinda doubtful being that it is so well perfected. He,he.

HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: SILLY's SWANSONG NO BRIAN G (4/24/2017 2:41:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sillyflower Fifty Shades of WiTE? Brian wants to carry on until the end, and then to play Hardluckyetagain. He obviously has been influenced/inspired by a recent (in)famous book and film [sm=fighting0056.gif][sm=fighting0056.gif][sm=fighting0056.gif] Huh, how did I get dragged into this?

bigbaba -> RE: SILLY's SWANSONG NO BRIAN G (4/24/2017 6:05:24 PM)
lol Brian wants to Keep playing this hopeless game and after that he wants to Play against mr. "i blitz moscow in turn 7 and you can't do **** about that"?:) that puts the real fifty shade of Grey in the shame.:)

HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: SILLY's SWANSONG NO BRIAN G (4/24/2017 9:31:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bigbaba lol Brian wants to Keep playing this hopeless game and after that he wants to Play against mr. "i blitz moscow in turn 7 and you can't do **** about that"?:) that puts the real fifty shade of Grey in the shame.:) Oh

sillyflower -> RE: SILLY's SWANSONG NO BRIAN G (4/28/2017 10:49:27 AM)
T111 and 112 Nothing much happened [>:]. In the far east, the Brianites made a few minor attacks, and I surround and rout a whole tank xxx. Some armour from the north heads that way as this is the likely spot for any Bolshevik O.

sillyflower -> RE: SILLY's SWANSONG NO BRIAN G (4/30/2017 3:02:14 PM)
T113 [image]local://upfiles/35790/35BFFE22EC5A4F33921DF758A9847833.jpg[/image] Not quite sure why I did this raid. Probably partly just to let Brian know that I still have the initiative, and partly to do something worth taking a picture of instead of endless nothing. Displaced a couple of HQ and several airbases but seemingly to little effect. Whole turn losses 3.7K G to 20.1K R so both armies continue to grow. Air 14 (11 recon) to 261 largely thanks to Brian's bombing efforts. 1 of the R losses was a DB3. Things must be bad if he's still flying those. I can live with stalemate, but with luck the Brianites will try to come after the raiders. The SS are waiting [sm=comp16.gif]

sillyflower -> RE: SILLY's SWANSONG NO BRIAN G (5/4/2017 9:52:37 PM)
T114 Brian took a couple of hexes, in his turn, but scuttled back to his forts containing rife xx in the east. No point in wasting troops attacking them frontally. The most exciting point in my turn was therefore having the 600,000th HIWI roll off the production line. [image]local://upfiles/35790/42FB77AD90E448A4B0CCD4520C54BDC2.jpg[/image]

Crackaces -> RE: SILLY's SWANSONG NO BRIAN G (5/4/2017 11:08:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AppendixSE One can't help but wonder at what stage Russia would collapse. Is this that state or would they always fight to the bitter end? Considering the prolonged fight of the "whites" in the civil war I wonder if that isn't just the case. The main question then being when the organised state collapses into splintered and isolated action. I would probably say losing a front at this stage would lead to a coup (if it didn't happen earlier). And life after stalin might produce a situation like WWI Russia after the Tsar. Extremely interesting AAR and I am surprised of the amount of hurt the Russians can soak up and still be able to have localized parity. Forget the question of Moscow ... SillyFlower has isolated the Caucasus Mountains from the Industry now in the Ural's. there is no Siberian Oil in 1944 .. Industry I would suspect would grind to a halt in this situation and with that the beans and the bullets ..maybe a guerilla operation .. but I would think once industry stopped the Army would collapse ..

sillyflower -> RE: SILLY's SWANSONG NO BRIAN G (5/5/2017 7:43:53 AM)
Welcome to the AAR Crackaces According to my calculations, which may be slightly off as I ran out of fingers and toes (the wife + dogs would not co-operate and will require appropriate re-education [:-]), the Caucasus has almost half of R fuel and oil production: 73/149 fuel and 63/128 oil. I imagine that the effect of such a loss would be great, but I'm no expert so leave it to others with more expertise to comment. I doubt that it has any in-game effect, though you would have to ask Brian about that.

bigbaba -> RE: SILLY's SWANSONG NO BRIAN G (5/5/2017 8:40:28 AM)
Guess the red Army has to abandon the new mobile warfare doctrine and go back to the human waves tactic without oil which is a bad thing with all this MG- 42 around.

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