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hughc61 -> Spratley Conlicts China v USA Etc (12/22/2015 12:29:58 AM)

Dear All,
Has anyone created a scenario of a conflict over the Spratelys between China and the USA and allies?

Merry Xmas!!!

regards,
Hugh




ojms -> RE: Spratley Conlicts China v USA Etc (12/22/2015 8:21:39 AM)

There are two that I can think of "Chianang Strike" (not sure on spelling) and "Play the Fool".

There is also the "seven powers" although I'm not sure if that was released.




Coiler12 -> RE: Spratley Conlicts China v USA Etc (12/22/2015 2:29:44 PM)


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ORIGINAL: hughc61

Dear All,
Has anyone created a scenario of a conflict over the Spratelys between China and the USA and allies?

Merry Xmas!!!

regards,
Hugh


Besides Changjiang Strike and Play The Fool, you have Four Ounces Can Move One Thousand Pounds (against Japan), and The Five Powers (against Australia+SEA).




ultradave -> RE: Spratley Conlicts China v USA Etc (12/22/2015 4:09:47 PM)

South China Clash from the included standalone scenarios.




SeaQueen -> RE: Spratley Conlicts China v USA Etc (12/22/2015 5:07:53 PM)

The issue is less "scenario" and more "scenarios." That theater is HUGE.


quote:

ORIGINAL: hughc61

Dear All,
Has anyone created a scenario of a conflict over the Spratleys between China and the USA and allies?

Merry Xmas!!!

regards,
Hugh





FTBSS -> RE: Spratley Conlicts China v USA Etc (12/22/2015 5:31:44 PM)

I am hoping the next official campaign is set up as a modern day clash between the USA and Pacific allies against the Plan and North Korea (using modern weapons and some of the hypothetical units in development.

So first campaign was with CW DB and new campaign with DB 3000.

would love to see a clash of sm3 vrs df21 and df26 asbm stealth fighters and most modern AAM see the results, would also love a branching campaign based on score of scenario leading to different scenario and difficulty.




Dysta -> RE: Spratley Conlicts China v USA Etc (12/23/2015 7:31:22 AM)

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ORIGINAL: FTBSS

I am hoping the next official campaign is set up as a modern day clash between the USA and Pacific allies against the Plan and North Korea (using modern weapons and some of the hypothetical units in development.

So first campaign was with CW DB and new campaign with DB 3000..

I prefer such campaign will lead into WWW, than WW3.




Sardaukar -> RE: Spratley Conlicts China v USA Etc (12/23/2015 11:58:02 AM)

"Play the Fool" is pretty good scenario, though I always chance USMC F-18A+ to F-35Bs or Super Hornets on CVN on editor, since plain F-18 is almost useless in other than "point defence"




SeaQueen -> RE: Spratley Conlicts China v USA Etc (12/23/2015 3:52:31 PM)

Ballistic missile defense scenarios against fixed targets are pretty easy to quickly cook up.

You just need to pick something you think might be a good target that's in range of the missile systems you think are interesting, lay a few ships down along the threat axis nearby to protect it, maybe add some land based SAMs, and a few opposing platforms which target the ships in addition to the thing the ship is trying to protect, and you're done. The rest is just tweaking details, which is what wargames are all about, ultimately. Raid schedules, positioning the ships, firing doctrine, defending the things meant to defend other things... that's the name of the game.

Ballistic missile defense against moving targets is a harder scenario to make because you have to think very carefully about the ISR problem for the ballistic missiles. If you're going to shoot "carrier killing" missiles at an aircraft carrier, something has to find it for you to shoot at it. It might be submarines, aircraft, shore based radars, satellites or surface ships. The result is a pretty big scenario pretty quickly.


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would love to see a clash of sm3 vrs df21 and df26 asbm stealth fighters and most modern AAM see the results, would also love a branching campaign based on score of scenario leading to different scenario and difficulty.





Dysta -> RE: Spratley Conlicts China v USA Etc (12/23/2015 4:06:03 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SeaQueen

Ballistic missile defense scenarios against fixed targets are pretty easy to quickly cook up.



I am more likely afraid they're intended to make US deploy more SAMs in batteries/canisters than typical naval loadout, if LRASM and TACTOM are also needed in this scenario. Sure, bring 2 fleets togethers will make short work of Chinese missiles, but don't forget ballistic missiles are very flexible to be used in duel-purposes, and not just DF-2X series they have to deal with.

Ultimately, if China's real target is not the US, but also whatever targets that could gain their positions to deceiving, or diverting attention to another theater of campaign, then you are expecting inferno in Singapore, Taiwan and South Korea before the US can protect them all, which is also their stragedic bases.

But then this is an ultimate nuclear holocaust, I hope every factions are ready for '1 hour cold war' before hell break loose.




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