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Joglinks1 -> RE: April 42 (9/15/2016 2:29:59 PM)

Hans, your statement is valid, however there is code in the game that gives an advantage to landings and I believe to air to air combat to the Japanese.
With the 1.3 scen 71 setup there is just not enough supply and troops to go around to sustain major offensives and expend the industry on a massive scale.

I also said that it is possible to take all the historical taken land but at a higher cost which translates in more points for the allied player making it difficult to archive a point victory

J

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BillBrown -> RE: April 42 (9/15/2016 6:18:06 PM)

Just be complete, we are playing scenario 71, not 75



btd64 -> RE: April 42 (9/15/2016 7:18:40 PM)

Understood....GP



BillBrown -> RE: April 42 (9/16/2016 8:55:47 PM)

I am not sure if this is what you wanted or not. Ship Class 642 Gato 4/42 does not have an upgrade path to a Gato-A model. There are about 50 of them appearing in 1942.



btd64 -> RE: April 42 (9/17/2016 12:39:38 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BillBrown

I am not sure if this is what you wanted or not. Ship Class 642 Gato 4/42 does not have an upgrade path to a Gato-A model. There are about 50 of them appearing in 1942.




I'll check and fix if nessecary. Thank you....GP



btd64 -> RE: April 42 (9/18/2016 9:42:53 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BillBrown

I am not sure if this is what you wanted or not. Ship Class 642 Gato 4/42 does not have an upgrade path to a Gato-A model. There are about 50 of them appearing in 1942.



Bill,
Current versions of FP include a Gato "A" model.
Just checked....GP



BillBrown -> RE: April 42 (9/18/2016 9:52:21 PM)

I will try one more time. Gato class 641 has an upgrade to a Gato-A class. That is bind # 613 which binds 641 to 1001.
There is no bind # listed for Gato class 642( this is the first upgrade of 641 ). There are 29 Gato class 642s that
appear in 1942, they have no path to a Gato-A class.



btd64 -> RE: April 42 (9/18/2016 9:59:47 PM)

Ah, once 641 upgrades to 642 the A model is no longer available. Did I forget to mention that[:'(].So you do have a "window of opportunity"....GP



BillBrown -> RE: April 42 (9/18/2016 10:55:30 PM)

Forget it.



CaptBeefheart -> RE: April 42 (10/11/2016 6:46:25 AM)

Bump: How's this coming?

Cheers,
CC



BillBrown -> RE: April 42 (10/16/2016 7:46:19 PM)

In both scenario 71 and 75 the air unit #342, IJA FF Training is listed as a Navy unit and it draws pilots from the navy pilot pool instead of the Army pilot pool.
Also, unit #343 , IJA bomber Training is listed as a Navy unit.
Units #30, 31, 32,33 are all listed as IJ Navy but fly the K5Y1 willow Light Bomber. These are also training units.

Now I know why my opponent Joglinks1 ran out of Navy pilots so quick.



BillBrown -> RE: April 42 (11/5/2016 3:22:59 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BillBrown

In both scenario 71 and 75 the air unit #342, IJA FF Training is listed as a Navy unit and it draws pilots from the navy pilot pool instead of the Army pilot pool.
Also, unit #343 , IJA bomber Training is listed as a Navy unit.
Units #30, 31, 32,33 are all listed as IJ Navy but fly the K5Y1 willow Light Bomber. These are also training units.

Now I know why my opponent Joglinks1 ran out of Navy pilots so quick.


I feel the need to quote myself and bring thins up again. As far as I am concerned, this would be a game breaker. I will not start another focus pacific scenario until it is fixed, but no one has responded to my first posting.



Adolf Galland -> RE: April 42 (11/5/2016 4:06:15 PM)

Hallo

Nice Mod

Idea: take over the Landunits structure from RA or bets Mod and the Naval design. We have old BB desgin in the buildlist from WW 1 Nagato class and from 20s Amagi class ! I think never build this naval design in 40s...... and cancel the catastrophe Agano and Oyodo light cruiser design.

- More CD units vs the Hordes off Allied BB ?
- Correct the German 28 cm Gun range and 28 cm turrets of the Deutschland class (2 x 3) (Scharnhorst,Deutschland klasse) range is not 24000...
- We can add Bismarck,Tirpitz,Graf Zeppelin with no air group at start to the mod ?
- more mine ships and mine production

i hope the ideas are ok...

sorry for my bad english



btd64 -> RE: April 42 (11/5/2016 5:01:26 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BillBrown


quote:

ORIGINAL: BillBrown

In both scenario 71 and 75 the air unit #342, IJA FF Training is listed as a Navy unit and it draws pilots from the navy pilot pool instead of the Army pilot pool.
Also, unit #343 , IJA bomber Training is listed as a Navy unit.
Units #30, 31, 32,33 are all listed as IJ Navy but fly the K5Y1 willow Light Bomber. These are also training units.

Now I know why my opponent Joglinks1 ran out of Navy pilots so quick.


I feel the need to quote myself and bring thins up again. As far as I am concerned, this would be a game breaker. I will not start another focus pacific scenario until it is fixed, but no one has responded to my first posting.


Sorry for not responding Bill. Scenario 75 has been modified for the last time, for reasons I can't get into, but I will fix this problem and email you the files. PM or email me your email address....GP



BillBrown -> RE: April 42 (11/5/2016 7:02:50 PM)

I can do the changes, there are some others I would want to do also, but I will wait and see if we do a restart in the future.



btd64 -> RE: April 42 (11/5/2016 7:49:55 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BillBrown

I can do the changes, there are some others I would want to do also, but I will wait and see if we do a restart in the future.


I have them done. Or go ahead and mod it yourself. That's fine....GP



1EyedJacks -> RE: Feedback (11/22/2016 7:29:13 PM)

Hi Paradigmblue,

I hope you're having a swell time with the increased opportunities of your job. Hopefully it compensates you most adequately (cha-ching!) [:D]

I'd like to submit a suggestion regarding the increased oil output in Hokkaido that is a part of Scenario 71. Since you bumped up oil production at Asahikawa, Muroran,& Sapporo, it seems to me that one of those bases would have a refinery built [hint-hint wink-wink]. Also, with the increased oil output at Shikuka and Toyohara, it would make sense to me for them to route oil to Hokkaido if there is no refinery for the bases in Sakhalin.

Perhaps you've decided to just use the refineries on the home islands but if not then I think it would be cool to see some kind of refinery processing on Hokkaido - perhaps at Sapporo, since it's got the largest oil output or at Wakkanai, which is closest to Toyohara and Shikuka.

Best of Thanksgiving cheer to you & yours,

Mike



paradigmblue -> RE: Feedback (11/22/2016 7:40:36 PM)


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ORIGINAL: 1EyedJacks

Hi Paradigmblue,

I hope you're having a swell time with the increased opportunities of your job. Hopefully it compensates you most adequately (cha-ching!) [:D]

I'd like to submit a suggestion regarding the increased oil output in Hokkaido that is a part of Scenario 71. Since you bumped up oil production at Asahikawa, Muroran,& Sapporo, it seems to me that one of those bases would have a refinery built [hint-hint wink-wink]. Also, with the increased oil output at Shikuka and Toyohara, it would make sense to me for them to route oil to Hokkaido if there is no refinery for the bases in Sakhalin.

Perhaps you've decided to just use the refineries on the home islands but if not then I think it would be cool to see some kind of refinery processing on Hokkaido - perhaps at Sapporo, since it's got the largest oil output or at Wakkanai, which is closest to Toyohara and Shikuka.

Best of Thanksgiving cheer to you & yours,

Mike



I'm still around, thought I'm sure Patton wants to kill me (completely understandable) as I've not gotten back to him on many issues.

I think this is a good thought, and Japan's economy still isn't quite in the shape I'm like to to be in, so this would be a good start. I still feel that Japan needs a little more resource production on the Home Islands as well.

I'm in town for four days until I have to fly out again for work, so I'll extend an olive branch to Patton and see if we can get an updated release out with some economy adjustments and some bug fixes.



1EyedJacks -> RE: Feedback (11/22/2016 8:19:53 PM)

<laughter>

Good to see that you are still around. My wife & I will be doing Thanksgiving in Las Vegas. I'm planning on a sinfully good holiday <grin>.

Lemme know if you'd like to invest in a slow game or do some more testing of Scenario 71. I like a lot of what I see in this scenario and would enjoy seeing how 1943-1944 evolve. Of course, with the amount of travel you seem to be doing, you'd probably have to invest in a laptop. [;)]

I'll keep an eye out for the update you hope to get out. And thanks much to you and Patton. I've spent quite a few enjoyable hours poking and prodding in the 71 scenario so I just wanted to extend my thanks to both of you.

TTFN,

Mike



paradigmblue -> RE: Feedback (11/23/2016 3:28:36 AM)

I have bought a laptop, so now I can play WitP on the road! I would be interested in a slow game if you don't mind interruptions when I have long days.



1EyedJacks -> RE: Feedback (11/27/2016 12:43:41 AM)

Groovy Bruce - lemme know when you've got the changes that you want added and we'll give it a go.




paradigmblue -> RE: Feedback (11/27/2016 5:55:44 AM)

Any specific requests that you'd like to see in the mod before we get started?



1EyedJacks -> RE: Feedback (11/27/2016 8:36:57 PM)

Well - since you asked… :-) I can't really say anything for the allies as my attention has been on Japan, but I'd like to see:

• More refineries for Hokkaido. Justification: Increased oil production @ Hokkaido & Sakhalin.
• Increase mine production by 50/month. Justification: ASW for allies will increase in 43/44 while Japan's ASW will remain virtually the same as from the start of the war. Adding additional mines gives Japan the opportunity to help protect/defend more of the 4ward islands/bases when the allies start rolling Japan back towards the home islands in late 43 / early 44.
• Add another 25 FP air groups to help Japan with detection levels for subs and enemy tasks forces.
• Add another 75 Air Support Engineer units of at least 24 Air Support. Justification: Air support for air groups.
• Add another 20 Combat Engineer Regiments of 126 AV. Justification: For Japan to help with assaults
• Remove the static device on all of the CD units. Justification: So I can move them around if I want.
• Add 5 more ARD or the option to convert some of the AK to ARDs. Justification: 4ward repair support in the islands of the Pacific.

• Something for you to ponder:
○ Japan starts with 2239 fighters/fighter bombers on the board (Japan starts out with 0 FB). Over the next 90 days they'll add 4 Air Groups adding another 123 AC… And they'll add 1 Air Group of 36 FB.
○ The allies start out with 4434 fighters/fighter bombers. Over the next 90 days the allies will add something like 95 fighter groups and five FB groups with what looks like what - about 1200 more F/FB?
○ My thoughts:
□ Japan can make more fighters but I'm thinking that w/o the additional air groups to put fighters in, that the air combat will rapidly get one-sided with Japan holding the short end of the stick. If you are thinking the same thing then perhaps we should either reduce the number of fighter air groups the allies receive or increase the number of Japanese fighter air groups that arrive. And since part of the intent seems to be for Japan to really ramp up production, maybe we add a bunch of air groups for Japan with only 1-6 aircraft with a max size of say 27, 36, or 48 and let Japan's production fill out the air groups? And if we do this we'd have to bump up the air support engineer units to meet the support needs…



paradigmblue -> RE: Feedback (11/27/2016 10:15:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: 1EyedJacks

• More refineries for Hokkaido. Justification: Increased oil production @ Hokkaido & Sakhalin.

Added in my test build.
quote:


• Increase mine production by 50/month. Justification: ASW for allies will increase in 43/44 while Japan's ASW will remain virtually the same as from the start of the war. Adding additional mines gives Japan the opportunity to help protect/defend more of the 4ward islands/bases when the allies start rolling Japan back towards the home islands in late 43 / early 44.

Definitely doable.
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• Add another 25 FP air groups to help Japan with detection levels for subs and enemy tasks forces.
• Add another 75 Air Support Engineer units of at least 24 Air Support. Justification: Air support for air groups.
• Add another 20 Combat Engineer Regiments of 126 AV. Justification: For Japan to help with assaults

Unfortunately, the "locations" fields in the editor are almost full, which means there simply isn't more space to add more than one or two units. In Focus Pacific, I've greatly increased the Aviation Support value of existing Japanese units, but I will look at doing so again, so individual Aviation Support units have a greater value. I can probably squeeze a few Combat Engineer regiments in, but not 20.
quote:


• Remove the static device on all of the CD units. Justification: So I can move them around if I want.

I'll look at this on a case by case basis. Fort units should not be mobile, but I have no problem making smaller CD units transportable.

quote:


• Add 5 more ARD or the option to convert some of the AK to ARDs. Justification: 4ward repair support in the islands of the Pacific.


Totally reasonable and doable.

quote:



• Something for you to ponder:
○ Japan starts with 2239 fighters/fighter bombers on the board (Japan starts out with 0 FB). Over the next 90 days they'll add 4 Air Groups adding another 123 AC… And they'll add 1 Air Group of 36 FB.
○ The allies start out with 4434 fighters/fighter bombers. Over the next 90 days the allies will add something like 95 fighter groups and five FB groups with what looks like what - about 1200 more F/FB?
○ My thoughts:
□ Japan can make more fighters but I'm thinking that w/o the additional air groups to put fighters in, that the air combat will rapidly get one-sided with Japan holding the short end of the stick. If you are thinking the same thing then perhaps we should either reduce the number of fighter air groups the allies receive or increase the number of Japanese fighter air groups that arrive. And since part of the intent seems to be for Japan to really ramp up production, maybe we add a bunch of air groups for Japan with only 1-6 aircraft with a max size of say 27, 36, or 48 and let Japan's production fill out the air groups? And if we do this we'd have to bump up the air support engineer units to meet the support needs…


Yes, I can add additional fighter groups that arrive under-strength, as well as more FP groups as well.

I'll work on all of this and should have an updated version for you to take a look at by Wednesday.



ny59giants -> RE: Feedback (11/29/2016 1:17:05 AM)

Since you're running low on Location slots, you can create a new device like "Aviation Support II" that becomes available on 1 Jan '43. Add this device to existing LCUs so when that date comes, they increase each by 12 Aviation support.



paradigmblue -> RE: Feedback (11/29/2016 7:08:46 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ny59giants

Since you're running low on Location slots, you can create a new device like "Aviation Support II" that becomes available on 1 Jan '43. Add this device to existing LCUs so when that date comes, they increase each by 12 Aviation support.


How would I get the new device to contribute Aviation Support? I could create the device, but I think the regular aviation support device slot is hard-coded for aviation support, and any new device would not provide the AS value.



paradigmblue -> RE: Feedback (11/29/2016 11:12:33 PM)

Okay, patch is ready for testing. It can be downloaded HERE.

Unlike other patches, this patch requires the previous patches to be installed first, so be sure you have1.04a installed first, and then install 1.05.

I'll update the front page with the patch once someone else confirms that it works.

Major Changes

Economy

Japan now starts with additional resource generation compared to 1.04a
Hokkaido now has a refinery

Air Power

Japan now receives additional fighter squadrons during the first year of the war. They start nearly empty, and need to be filled with fighters. All told, this is 30 IJN squadrons, 30 IJA fighter squadrons and 5 IJA FB squadrons.
Japan receives 20 additional float plane groups at the start of the war. These start as 6 plane groups, but upgrade to 12 plane groups in early spring.
The allies have a few more assorted patrol and float plane groups, including some Wildcatfish and SeaDevastator squadrons.

LCU Changes

Both Japan and the Allies receive some Aviation Support upgrades in the form of increased Aviation Support TOE values.
Japan has additional IJA Engineering squads added to the TOE of some infantry units.

Ship Changes

CVL Bearn receives some sister ships. They are slow and have poor AA value, but are an interesting X factor.
The IJN receives two additional 45-plane CVLs in 1942.
Japan receives 6 ARDs, scattered around the empire. Two begin the game at Truk.

Bug Fixes

IJA/IJN Training units drawing from the wrong pilot pools has been fixed.
The Gato upgrade issue has probably been fixed. If not, the later Gatos just won't get the opportunity to upgrade to the Gato A.
An issue with the wrong gun values for some French cruisers has been fixed.



paradigmblue -> RE: Feedback (11/29/2016 11:56:49 PM)

Jacks - once you have downloaded the patch and have looked it over, go ahead and send me a turn if it looks good to you.



Cavalry Corp -> RE: Feedback (12/7/2016 3:51:11 PM)

Just about to start this mod - looks really nice
How can i see if the latest patch is worked - looking fro I on a screen but cannot see anything.



btd64 -> RE: Feedback (12/7/2016 5:40:35 PM)

The latest is 2 posts above. Everything else is on the first post....GP



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