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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (10/9/2016 4:04:41 PM)

Turn 11. May/June 1941. Axis #3. Weather.

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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (10/10/2016 5:46:37 AM)

MJ41 i3:
Italy and Japan take combines and Germany a land action.
No European naval moves, the JP move two Carriers to the S. China Sea.
The Italians do not initiate combat in the CSV, but do in the W. Med.
Following the lead of your last moves in previous impulse, I did not fly any more CW planes to the W. Med.
Search rolls were 7/2. Again following your lead, I had you select a low box and then avoid combat.

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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (10/10/2016 5:53:09 AM)

MJ41 i3: Ground Strikes
Forgot to image the rolls of the second, but you can see in this image from the return to base phase that the CW MIL in Madrid was disorganized.

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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (10/10/2016 6:31:12 AM)

MJ41 i3: Land Attack
Germans are attacking Saragossa. The CW can fly aircraft to support the defenders. Current odds are shown. No Axis ground support is being flown. I don't believe any axis fighters could intercept.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (10/10/2016 11:10:17 PM)

No to CW providing defensive ground support.



ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (10/11/2016 6:24:11 AM)

Attack roll went well with an 11 (missed the fractional), taking Saragossa without casualty.



rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (10/12/2016 12:51:11 AM)

Turn 11. May/June 1941. Allied #4. Actions.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (10/12/2016 12:51:59 AM)

Turn 11. May/June 1941. Allied #4. Post Naval. No Combat.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (10/12/2016 12:52:24 AM)

Turn 11. May/June 1941. Allied #4. RAF. Ground Strike.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (10/12/2016 12:53:15 AM)

Turn 11. May/June 1941. Allied #4. Spain.

Post movement. No land combat. Ineffective ground strike (previous post).

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (10/12/2016 12:54:19 AM)

Turn 11. May/June 1941. Allied #4. North Africa.

Post movement. No land or air combat.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (10/12/2016 12:54:46 AM)

Turn 11. May/June 1941. Allied #4. Egypt. Libya.

Post movement. No land or air combat.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (10/12/2016 12:55:18 AM)

Turn 11. May/June 1941. Allied #4. Eastern Europe.

[:)]

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (10/12/2016 1:02:45 AM)

Turn 11. May/June 1941. Axis #5. Weather.

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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (10/12/2016 7:02:34 AM)

MJ41 i5: Naval Initiation
Germany takes a land. Japan and Italy take combined actions.
Italy flies a NAV to the 4-box of the E. Med.

Italy does not initiate combat in CSV.
They do in the E. Med. The Hampden in Malta could have reacted, but I saw no reason for you to react a bomber to that sea zone.
In the E. Med the search rolls were 7/3. The Italians just missed, so there was combat.
In the W. Med, the Italians initiate with another plane. The CW can react with the Hurricane in Gibraltar or the Hampden in Malta. Will you?

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (10/12/2016 12:24:52 PM)

Hurricane to the 0-box. Hampden to the 3-box if not extended range, otherwise to the 2-box.



ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (10/12/2016 4:23:45 PM)

MJ41 i5:
W. Med search rolls were 7/2. So the Allies find. With you flying the bomber out (to the 2-box at regular range), I was not sure if you would want to avoid anymore. So, below is the situation and your choice.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (10/12/2016 11:05:24 PM)

avoid ... with all the bad luck I've had in the West Med I don't want to press it now.



ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (10/13/2016 12:53:39 AM)

MJ41 i5:
One ground strike and it was very successful.

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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (10/13/2016 4:48:19 AM)

MJ41 i5:
Two Land attacks. Madrid (43:5 -> +15.2) and Barcelona (current odds shown below - before HQ support, ground support and offensive shore bombardment. At this point you can apply shore bombardment. You will probably have the option of flying the Sunderland as well. What is your direction on shore bombardment and air support.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (10/13/2016 5:03:01 AM)

1. Barcelona, max shore bombardment. Also, provide max defensive ground support (if any) if not possible for axis fighters to intercept. Choose assault.

2. Madrid. No additional support. Choose assault.



ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (10/13/2016 5:15:50 AM)

Where would you like the Sunderland to return to base?



ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (10/13/2016 6:02:05 AM)

MJ41 i5:
I went ahead and returned the Sunderland back to the UK (Southampton). You can move it if you want it elsewhere.
The results of the combats shown below. I probably should not have used the Italian ships shore bombardment. The increased attack strength did not compensate for the allied friction modifier. It worked out ok with the 19 rolled.


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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (10/13/2016 6:12:36 AM)

MA41 i5 end: Situation in Spain

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (10/13/2016 12:20:59 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: ashkpa

Where would you like the Sunderland to return to base?
Would the Sunderland have been able to return to Gibraltar? If so, I might move it there.



ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (10/14/2016 12:14:43 AM)

quote:

Would the Sunderland have been able to return to Gibraltar? If so, I might move it there.
Yes it would have, as well as Malta I believe.



rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (10/14/2016 12:27:21 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: ashkpa

quote:

Would the Sunderland have been able to return to Gibraltar? If so, I might move it there.
Yes it would have, as well as Malta I believe.

1. I'm going to "return" him to Plymouth (from Portsmouth).

2. Also, I believe the Italian NAV in the East Med tried and failed to initiate a naval combat and needs to be disorganized, which I plan to do.

Please let me know if I'm mistaken on either or both of these points, otherwise I plan to "execute" to them.



ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (10/14/2016 12:41:32 AM)

quote:

1. I'm going to "return" him to Plymouth (from Portsmouth).

2. Also, I believe the Italian NAV in the East Med tried and failed to initiate a naval combat and needs to be disorganized, which I plan to do.

Please let me know if I'm mistaken on either or both of these points, otherwise I plan to "execute" to them.

1) No issue.
2) I believe all three Italian planes are now disorganized. I initiated with them in all three of my impulses. No German planes should be disorganized (the one that initiated during your first impulse was later shot down). The Italian ships should also all be disorganized.



rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (10/14/2016 1:21:49 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: ashkpa

quote:

1. I'm going to "return" him to Plymouth (from Portsmouth).

2. Also, I believe the Italian NAV in the East Med tried and failed to initiate a naval combat and needs to be disorganized, which I plan to do.

Please let me know if I'm mistaken on either or both of these points, otherwise I plan to "execute" to them.

1) No issue.
2) I believe all three Italian planes are now disorganized. I initiated with them in all three of my impulses. No German planes should be disorganized (the one that initiated during your first impulse was later shot down). The Italian ships should also all be disorganized.
Thanks!


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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (10/14/2016 1:22:45 AM)

Turn 11. May/June 1941. Allied #6. Actions.

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