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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (1/15/2017 3:47:58 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ashkpa

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So much for Soviet fighter pilots
actually the pilots survived, but the planes are gone. Perhaps they'll get more training now [;)]
Or maybe get a new career working in the Soviet salt mines. [:D]



Courtenay -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (1/15/2017 4:33:11 PM)


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ORIGINAL: rkr1958


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ORIGINAL: ashkpa

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So much for Soviet fighter pilots
actually the pilots survived, but the planes are gone. Perhaps they'll get more training now [;)]
Or maybe get a new career working in the Soviet salt mines. [:D]


No, pilots are too valuable for that.



ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (1/15/2017 7:51:27 PM)

MJ42 i1 Axis Attacks 1/3
6 attacks, no great rolls but the poorest roll came on the lowest odds (best for the defenders). Three postings will show the results.

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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (1/15/2017 7:52:34 PM)

MJ42 i1 Axis Attacks 2/3

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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (1/15/2017 7:53:06 PM)

MJ42 i1 Axis Attacks 3/3
Used Rundstedt, Rommel and von Boch to reorganize after these attacks.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (1/16/2017 9:24:01 PM)

Turn 17. May/June 1942. Allied #2. Actions.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (1/16/2017 9:24:50 PM)

Turn 17. May/June 1942. Allied #2. RN. Contested Sea Areas. No Combat.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (1/16/2017 9:27:43 PM)

Turn 17. May/June 1942. Allied #2. USN. Contested Sea Areas. No Combat.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (1/16/2017 9:29:35 PM)

Turn 17. May/June 1942. Allied #2. USN. China Sea. South China Sea.

The USN will attempt to initiate a sub combat in both of these sea areas.

1. Which planes and where would the Japanese like to include?

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (1/16/2017 9:33:08 PM)

Turn 17. May/June 1942. Allied #2. USN and RN. Contested Sea Area. North Sea.

The USN and RN will not try to initiate a naval combat in the North Sea.

2. Do the Germans with to try? (If so, they have only one unit they can use).


If the Germans do attempt to fight a battle shown are the air units both sides can add to the area.

3. If battle attempted, do the axis wish to add any additional air units? If so, where?

4. If battle attempted and successful, instructions?

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (1/16/2017 9:34:53 PM)

Turn 17. May/June 1942. Allied #2. RN. Contested Sea Area. The Marianas.

5. Does the IJN wish to attempt to initiate a naval combat in the Marianas?

6. If so, do they wish to include additional air. If so, where?

7. If battle is attempted and successfully initiated, instructions?

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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (1/16/2017 10:39:40 PM)

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Turn 17. May/June 1942. Allied #2. USN. China Sea. South China Sea.

The USN will attempt to initiate a sub combat in both of these sea areas.

1. Which planes and where would the Japanese like to include?


Into the Sea of Japan goes
- B5N2 to the 2-box
- Ki30 to the 0-box

Into the China Sea goes
- D3A1 to the 0-box



ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (1/16/2017 10:54:58 PM)

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Turn 17. May/June 1942. Allied #2. USN and RN. Contested Sea Area. North Sea.

The USN and RN will not try to initiate a naval combat in the North Sea.

2. Do the Germans with to try? (If so, they have only one unit they can use).


If the Germans do attempt to fight a battle shown are the air units both sides can add to the area.

3. If battle attempted, do the axis wish to add any additional air units? If so, where?

4. If battle attempted and successful, instructions?

After much consternation, the axis decide to let the Allied fleet ride the waves unmolested.
So,
2) No
3 and 4) not applicable.



ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (1/16/2017 10:55:36 PM)

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Turn 17. May/June 1942. Allied #2. RN. Contested Sea Area. The Marianas.

5. Does the IJN wish to attempt to initiate a naval combat in the Marianas?

6. If so, do they wish to include additional air. If so, where?

7. If battle is attempted and successfully initiated, instructions?
No, I will not initiate here.



rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (1/17/2017 11:26:48 PM)

Turn 17. May/June 1942. Allied #2. USN, Sea of Japan.

No contact.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (1/17/2017 11:27:29 PM)

Turn 17. May/June 1942. Allied #2. USN, China Sea.

No contact.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (1/17/2017 11:36:41 PM)

Turn 17. May/June 1942. Allied #2. USSR, Ground Strike.

The USSR assigned this unescorted ground strike under the mistaken assumption that it couldn't be intercepted by axis fighters. That assumption was wrong. The Italian fighter was in range to intercept and I make the call that the axis would intercept.

The Soviet bomber gets through and manages to disorganize the SS mech corps.

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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (1/18/2017 12:06:03 AM)

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Turn 17. May/June 1942. Allied #2. USSR, Ground Strike.

The USSR assigned this unescorted ground strike under the mistaken assumption that it couldn't be intercepted by axis fighters. That assumption was wrong. The Italian fighter was in range to intercept and I make the call that the axis would intercept.

The Soviet bomber gets through and manages to disorganize the SS mech corps.
Carry on.



rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (1/18/2017 12:43:25 AM)

Turn 17. May/June 1942. Allied #2. Western Allies Amphibious Invasions. Axis Ground Support Questions.

The US and CW are attempting amphibious invasions against two targets, Brest and St-Malo in France.

1. Brest land combat. Current odds which include offense shore bombardment are +7.6 (19:5). In ground support the allies are flying four bombers with TAC factors of 3,2, 1 and 1. These bombers are escorted by two fighters with air to air values of 6 and 5. Do the axis wish to attempt to provide defensive ground support to this attack? If so, which bombers and fighters do they wish to fly to the hex? Also, what are your air-to-air instructions?


2. St-Malo land combat. Current odds which include offense shore bombardment are +18 (18:2). In ground support the allies are flying one bomber with TAC 2 and one fighter with air-to-air 6. Do the axis wish to attempt to provide defensive ground support to this attack? If so, which bombers and fighters do they wish to fly to the hex? Also, what are your air-to-air instructions?

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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (1/18/2017 3:25:00 AM)

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Turn 17. May/June 1942. Allied #2. Western Allies Amphibious Invasions. Axis Ground Support Questions.

The US and CW are attempting amphibious invasions against two targets, Brest and St-Malo in France.

1. Brest land combat. Current odds which include offense shore bombardment are +7.6 (19:5). In ground support the allies are flying four bombers with TAC factors of 3,2, 1 and 1. These bombers are escorted by two fighters with air to air values of 6 and 5. Do the axis wish to attempt to provide defensive ground support to this attack? If so, which bombers and fighters do they wish to fly to the hex? Also, what are your air-to-air instructions?

Fighters, in order, Bf109 {from Brest}, Macchi {Brest}, Falco 1 {St-Malo}, Bf110c {Lorrient}
Bomber, use programs order, Ju87R {55,25}, Alclone {54,26}, He115c {St-Malo}

I believe if I get at least 4 GS through it is best to decline the notional, but please verify when the option comes up. If it is my option on my losses and all axis bombers are still in queue, then take the lead bomber out. If the Ju87R has cleared also use the bombers for losses. Otherwise use the fighters as losses. Clear the Ju87R first if I have an option.

If I get a choice against your stacks, take your lead fighter out first. Once he is gone, I will take out bombers as long as I have not taken a fighter loss. After my first fighter loss, all losses are against your fighters till they are all gone.


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2. St-Malo land combat. Current odds which include offense shore bombardment are +18 (18:2). In ground support the allies are flying one bomber with TAC 2 and one fighter with air-to-air 6. Do the axis wish to attempt to provide defensive ground support to this attack? If so, which bombers and fighters do they wish to fly to the hex? Also, what are your air-to-air instructions?

Fighters, in order, Ariete {Rouen}, Ju88C {St-Malo}
Bombers, use computer order, Bf110c {55,24}, Bf110d {54,24}

If it is my option on my losses and all axis bombers are still in queue, then take the lead bomber out. If a bomber has cleared use the last bomber as the loss. Otherwise use the fighters as losses.

If I get a choice against your stacks, take your fighter out first.

It has taken me awhile to figure this out and a mistake is likely. If something looks silly, please stop and let me review.



rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (1/18/2017 4:38:40 AM)

Turn 17. May/June 1942. Allied #2. Western Allies. Brest. Air-to-Air Combat, part 1.

I believe (hope) I've faithfully executed your instructions in the Brest air to air combat, which hasn't gone well for the axis, to this point.

At this point I need direction from you on whether or not you wish to continue this air to air? If so, what are you instructions?


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ORIGINAL: ashkpa
I believe if I get at least 4 GS through it is best to decline the notional, but please verify when the option comes up.
By the way, the choice on whether or not to include the notional had to be made even before adding shore bombardment. Attack odds were in your favor with the notionals so I included them. Hope that was ok.

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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (1/18/2017 4:54:36 AM)

staying at least one more round to try and get the bomber through. Please roll well for the axis now.



rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (1/18/2017 4:59:05 AM)

Turn 17. May/June 1941. Allied #2. Western Allies. Brest. Air to Air Combat, part 2.

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ORIGINAL: ashkpa

staying at least one more round to try and get the bomber through. Please roll well for the axis now.


Sorry ... [:(]

Stay or leave?

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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (1/18/2017 5:34:17 AM)

So frustrating. Stay.



rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (1/18/2017 5:45:52 AM)

Turn 17. May/June 1942. Allied #2. Western Allies. Brest. Air-to-Air, Part 3.

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ORIGINAL: ashkpa

So frustrating. Stay.

Sorry again ... [:(]

Thus, ends to air to air combat over Breast and ground support.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (1/18/2017 5:51:17 AM)

Turn 17. May/June 1942. Allied #2. St-Malo. Air-to-Air Combat.

Well, if it's any consolation the air to air combat over St-Malo completely goes the axis way.

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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (1/18/2017 5:54:46 AM)

Now it is all up to the luck of the attack rolls. Plus, you should be in bed now. Don't you work in the morning?[:D]



rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (1/18/2017 5:55:30 AM)

Turn 17. May/June 1942. Allied #2. Western Allies. Land Combat. Ground Support.

The Western Allies manage to add 6 factors of ground support to their attack on Brest. The axis managed to add 2 factors to their defense of St-Malo.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (1/18/2017 6:09:00 AM)

Turn 17. May/June 1942. Allied #2. Amphibious Landings Brest and St-Malo.

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ORIGINAL: ashkpa

Now it is all up to the luck of the attack rolls. Plus, you should be in bed now. Don't you work in the morning?[:D]
Yes it is and yes I do, but if I didn't finish my impulse it would drive me crazy all day at work thinking about the outcome. [:)]

The allies get ashore at both locations but the Brest landings were costly.


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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (1/18/2017 6:22:30 AM)

Turn 17. May/June 1942. Allied #2. Western Allies. Northwest France.

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