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obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: Lowpe (J) vs obvert (A) (5/8/2019 11:09:58 AM)
Dec 9-10, 1942 The Allies get a solid 4:1 at Hangchow on the 9th, reducing forts to 3. The Japanese use their BBs hitting the Chinese on the 10th and reinforce with a full ID, a brigade and a regiment. The Chinese shock and get a 1:2 but the IJA takes much heavier losses. Surprised and happy about that. More and better troops are coming, with a Marine ID a few days away. The more he uses here the fewer for Shanghai. Got the old ladies involved on the 10th with a bombardment of San Fernando. Not bad. The USN BBs are getting ready to go again as well after Pearl. I should have 2 of the 4 heavily damaged back in action within the month. I'm forgoing upgrades on the ones with the long refurb. This means less AA and radar, but I'l need them soon to do any serious invasions closer to the Japanese homeland. Aparri falls to the paras on the 10th as well. The IJA on Luzon is surrounded. San Fernando is occupied by a force led by mostly PI troops. More solid Allied units are moving in as well. Up North the path to Mukden is blocked at Liaoyuan. It is attacked but we only get a 1:2 with about equal losses. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 9, 1942 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Samah , at 69,63 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid spotted at 47 NM, estimated altitude 34,550 feet. Estimated time to target is 9 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M3 Zero x 23 Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 6 Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 10 Allied aircraft P-38G Lightning x 14 Japanese aircraft losses A6M3 Zero: 1 destroyed Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 1 destroyed Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses P-38G Lightning: 1 destroyed Aircraft Attacking: 5 x P-38G Lightning sweeping at 33550 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Kiangtu (91,51) Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 11109 troops, 101 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 357 Defending force 33338 troops, 285 guns, 102 vehicles, Assault Value = 1036 Japanese adjusted assault: 278 Allied adjusted defense: 422 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 0) Combat modifiers Defender: preparation(-), experience(-) Attacker: shock(+), leaders(+), disruption(-) Japanese ground losses: 1425 casualties reported Squads: 12 destroyed, 158 disabled Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 14 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 5 disabled Allied ground losses: 252 casualties reported Squads: 2 destroyed, 15 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Assaulting units: 116th Division Defending units: 12th Chinese Corps 82nd Chinese Corps 413th Howitzer Regiment 33rd Guards Mortar Regiment 32nd Guards Mortar Regiment 39th Guards Mortar Regiment -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Liaoyuan (105,40) Allied Deliberate attack Attacking force 39141 troops, 657 guns, 1388 vehicles, Assault Value = 1625 Defending force 24399 troops, 333 guns, 494 vehicles, Assault Value = 772 Allied adjusted assault: 740 Japanese adjusted defense: 1115 Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 2) Combat modifiers Defender: preparation(-), experience(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 1159 casualties reported Squads: 16 destroyed, 36 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 30 disabled Engineers: 5 destroyed, 23 disabled Guns lost 39 (8 destroyed, 31 disabled) Vehicles lost 69 (20 destroyed, 49 disabled) Allied ground losses: 1949 casualties reported Squads: 5 destroyed, 148 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 23 disabled Engineers: 3 destroyed, 18 disabled Vehicles lost 64 (7 destroyed, 57 disabled) Assaulting units: 226th Rifle Brigade 261st Rifle Brigade 57th Motor Rifle Division 40th Rifle Division 35th Tank Battalion 75th Tank Brigade 51st Cavalry Division 199th BM Howitzer Regiment 106th/1146th How. Regiment 1140th Cannon Regiment 282nd/382nd AA Battalion 1233rd Cannon Regiment 1130th Howitzer Regiment 2nd Rifle Corps 405th/414th AA Battalion Defending units: 3rd Recon Battalion 3rd Mobile Engineer Regiment 11th Tank Regiment 14th Division 1st Manchukuo Cavalry Division 13th Tank Regiment 9th Tank Regiment 3rd Mobile Infantry Regiment 9th Manchukuo Inf Brigade 46th Field Const Co 3rd Mobile AA Battalion 6th Army 26th Air Defense AA Regiment 16th Field AA Machinecannon Company 27th Fld AA Machinecannon Company 20th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 3rd Mobile Field Artillery Regiment 45th Field Const Co 42nd Ind.AA Gun Co 7th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 99th JAAF AF Bn -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Hangchow (90,55) Allied Deliberate attack Attacking force 33413 troops, 123 guns, 80 vehicles, Assault Value = 1162 Defending force 9211 troops, 46 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 328 Allied adjusted assault: 941 Japanese adjusted defense: 227 Allied assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 4) Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 3 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), preparation(-), experience(-) Attacker: fatigue(-) Japanese ground losses: 970 casualties reported Squads: 9 destroyed, 112 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Allied ground losses: 484 casualties reported Squads: 4 destroyed, 109 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled Assaulting units: 637th Tank Destroyer Battalion 78th Chinese Corps 10th Chinese Corps 79th Chinese Corps 23rd Group Army Defending units: 3rd RGC Route Brigade Nanking Naval Guard Unit 25th RGC Temp. Division 12th RGC Ind. Brigade 13th Garrison Unit -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 10, 1942 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Naval bombardment of San Fernando at 80,74 Allied Ships BB Resolution BB Ramillies BB Royal Sovereign BB Revenge BB West Virginia Japanese ground losses: 1003 casualties reported Squads: 3 destroyed, 27 disabled Non Combat: 8 destroyed, 46 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled Vehicles lost 8 (2 destroyed, 6 disabled) Airbase hits 5 Runway hits 20 Port hits 1 Walrus II acting as spotter for BB Resolution -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Naval bombardment of Hangchow at 90,55 Japanese Ships BB Yamashiro BB Hiei CA Myoko CL Jintsu Allied ground losses: 814 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 29 disabled Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 41 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled BB Yamashiro firing at 10th Chinese Corps -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 17th Port Unit , at 82,73 (Aparri) Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 27 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 9 minutes Allied aircraft Kittyhawk IA x 16 B-24D Liberator x 22 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 635 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 57 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 9 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 8000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pre-Invasion action off Miri (64,87) Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force 113 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Allied Ships CL Concord xAP Kajang DD Nizam DD Sands Japanese ground losses: 12 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Allied ground losses: 52 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled CL Concord firing at 9th Base Force -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Hangchow (90,55) Allied Shock attack Attacking force 32147 troops, 123 guns, 198 vehicles, Assault Value = 1027 Defending force 29904 troops, 199 guns, 24 vehicles, Assault Value = 819 Allied adjusted assault: 509 Japanese adjusted defense: 937 Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 2) Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-) Attacker: shock(+) Japanese ground losses: 1889 casualties reported Squads: 98 destroyed, 75 disabled Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 29 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled Guns lost 24 (16 destroyed, 8 disabled) Allied ground losses: 700 casualties reported Squads: 6 destroyed, 51 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 12 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled Guns lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled) Vehicles lost 31 (7 destroyed, 24 disabled) Assaulting units: 637th Tank Destroyer Battalion 10th Chinese Corps 1st USMC Tank Battalion 78th Chinese Corps 79th Chinese Corps 23rd Group Army Defending units: Nanking Naval Guard Unit 25th RGC Temp. Division 34th Division 2nd Ind.Mixed Regiment 12th Ind.Mixed Brigade 13th Garrison Unit 12th RGC Ind. Brigade 3rd RGC Route Brigade -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at 65,63 (near Hue) Allied Shock attack Attacking force 4231 troops, 60 guns, 8 vehicles, Assault Value = 163 Defending force 9304 troops, 41 guns, 5 vehicles, Assault Value = 157 Allied adjusted assault: 33 Japanese adjusted defense: 63 Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+) Attacker: shock(+) Japanese ground losses: 246 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 22 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Allied ground losses: 204 casualties reported Squads: 2 destroyed, 47 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Assaulting units: 2/8th Armoured Regiment 2nd Loyal Battalion 22nd Australian Brigade Defending units: 8th Garrison Unit 89th Naval Guard Unit 8th RF Gun Battalion 10th RF Gun Battalion 49th JNAF AF Unit 11th RF Gun Battalion 18th Naval Guard Unit Southern Army 26th JNAF AF Unit 7th Field Construction Battalion 55th JNAF AF Unit 12th JAAF AF Coy 48th JNAF AF Unit /4 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Kiangtu (91,51) Allied Deliberate attack Attacking force 33188 troops, 285 guns, 102 vehicles, Assault Value = 1018 Defending force 9827 troops, 101 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 229 Allied adjusted assault: 735 Japanese adjusted defense: 22 Allied assault odds: 33 to 1 Combat modifiers Defender: leaders(+), disruption(-), preparation(-), experience(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 3058 casualties reported Squads: 85 destroyed, 33 disabled Non Combat: 73 destroyed, 14 disabled Engineers: 4 destroyed, 6 disabled Guns lost 16 (7 destroyed, 9 disabled) Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled) Units retreated 1 Allied ground losses: 292 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 14 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Defeated Japanese Units Retreating! Assaulting units: 12th Chinese Corps 82nd Chinese Corps 413th Howitzer Regiment 32nd Guards Mortar Regiment 33rd Guards Mortar Regiment 39th Guards Mortar Regiment Defending units: 116th Division -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Tsinan (93,44) Allied Deliberate attack Attacking force 31925 troops, 179 guns, 936 vehicles, Assault Value = 1170 Defending force 2828 troops, 26 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 66 Allied adjusted assault: 949 Japanese adjusted defense: 23 Allied assault odds: 41 to 1 (fort level 2) Allied forces CAPTURE Tsinan !!! Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(-), preparation(-) experience(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 1304 casualties reported Squads: 37 destroyed, 15 disabled Non Combat: 25 destroyed, 11 disabled Engineers: 14 destroyed, 3 disabled Guns lost 12 (7 destroyed, 5 disabled) Units retreated 3 Allied ground losses: 76 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Defeated Japanese Units Retreating! Assaulting units: 80th Chinese Corps 111th Tank Division 206th Tank Brigade 93rd Chinese Corps 31st Group Army Defending units: 8th RGC Route Brigade 14th RGC Temp. Division 23rd JNAF AF Unit -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Aparri (82,73) Allied Shock attack Attacking force 1655 troops, 18 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 91 Defending force 2345 troops, 15 guns, 71 vehicles, Assault Value = 24 Allied adjusted assault: 43 Japanese adjusted defense: 4 Allied assault odds: 10 to 1 (fort level 0) Allied forces CAPTURE Aparri !!! Japanese aircraft no flights Japanese aircraft losses D3A1 Val: 1 destroyed Combat modifiers Defender: disruption(-), preparation(-), experience(-) Attacker: shock(+), leaders(+), leaders(-), disruption(-) Japanese ground losses: 388 casualties reported Squads: 6 destroyed, 2 disabled Non Combat: 43 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 8 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled) Vehicles lost 31 (31 destroyed, 0 disabled) Units retreated 4 Allied ground losses: 46 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Assaulting units: 77th LRP Bde /1 Defending units: 19th Tank Regiment 105th Ship Eng Coy 17th Port Unit 5th Air Division 8th JAAF AF Bn --------------------------------------------------------------------------------[/font The full 'R' Class is only available for the next little while as they start to leave for Europe one by one soon. I'll try to make as much use of them as I can until then. Too bad I don't get them for the duration in this particular game. I'll need all of the old BB I can get soon. [image]local://upfiles/37283/9D997082A6694AB188EE4145EB2DC07C.jpg[/image]

BBfanboy -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: Lowpe (J) vs obvert (A) (5/8/2019 2:26:54 PM)
quote: obvert: I'll need all of the old BB I can get soon. How about this one: [image]local://upfiles/35791/7DA24C1E5D264F5A9FADC46100C79C5F.jpg[/image]

Canoerebel -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: Lowpe (J) vs obvert (A) (5/8/2019 2:43:24 PM)
Time to convene the Kangaroo Court.

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: Lowpe (J) vs obvert (A) (5/8/2019 4:31:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Canoerebel Time to convene the Kangaroo Court. Agreed!! [:-]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: Lowpe (J) vs obvert (A) (5/9/2019 8:59:03 AM)
Dec 11-12, 1942 A very good, very large CAP trap in China nets some Wellingtons and a few others trying to bomb the troops arriving at Hangchow. Good move by Lowpe. Escorts did well i the start but lone groups coming later got nailed. Another unit at Liaoyuan should give us the advantage, but instead the attack "collapses" and achieves another 1:2. I'll have to wait a bit and try again. This is in the clear with only 2 forts, so it won't last long unless heavily reinforced. A few more small Chinese bases cleaned up. Now on to the bigger fish. I'll begin trying at Canton, Hangchow, Nanking and moving on Peiping soon. In addition, I'm preparing several bases for 4E to strat bomb the Home Islands. I should be able to begin within a week or two depending on airfield construction. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 12, 1942 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 34th Division, at 90,55 (Hangchow) Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 5 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 90 Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 7 Allied aircraft Hurricane IIb Trop x 8 Hurricane IIc Trop x 10 Liberator II x 11 B-17E Fortress x 3 B-17F Fortress x 12 B-24D Liberator x 3 B-25C Mitchell x 15 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 3 destroyed Allied aircraft losses Hurricane IIb Trop: 3 destroyed B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged B-17F Fortress: 2 damaged B-25C Mitchell: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged Japanese ground losses: 258 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 8 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 11 x Liberator II bombing from 6000 feet Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 34th Division, at 90,55 (Hangchow) Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 7 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 73 Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 7 Allied aircraft Wellington Ic x 15 B-17E Fortress x 9 B-17F Fortress x 12 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses Wellington Ic: 6 destroyed, 4 damaged B-17E Fortress: 6 damaged B-17F Fortress: 3 damaged Japanese ground losses: 53 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 5 x Wellington Ic bombing from 8000 feet Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 13th Garrison Unit , at 90,55 (Hangchow) Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 3 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 49 Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 3 Allied aircraft B-17E Fortress x 9 B-26 Marauder x 5 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses B-17E Fortress: 2 damaged B-26 Marauder: 1 damaged Japanese ground losses: 28 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 9 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 6000 feet Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 12th Ind.Mixed Brigade, at 90,55 (Hangchow) Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 5 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 36 Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 2 Allied aircraft Hurricane IIb Trop x 1 Wellington Ic x 9 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses Wellington Ic: 3 destroyed, 3 damaged Aircraft Attacking: 5 x Wellington Ic bombing from 8000 feet Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at San Fernando (80,74) Allied Deliberate attack Attacking force 43106 troops, 440 guns, 541 vehicles, Assault Value = 1490 Defending force 32674 troops, 206 guns, 159 vehicles, Assault Value = 672 Allied adjusted assault: 773 Japanese adjusted defense: 511 Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 0) Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 0 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), preparation(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 1953 casualties reported Squads: 46 destroyed, 135 disabled Non Combat: 11 destroyed, 60 disabled Engineers: 15 destroyed, 46 disabled Guns lost 20 (3 destroyed, 17 disabled) Vehicles lost 8 (3 destroyed, 5 disabled) Allied ground losses: 1646 casualties reported Squads: 6 destroyed, 156 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 53 disabled Engineers: 3 destroyed, 15 disabled Guns lost 19 (1 destroyed, 18 disabled) Vehicles lost 59 (8 destroyed, 51 disabled) Assaulting units: 1st Tank Battalion 762nd Tank Battalion 2nd Cav Recce Regiment 21st PA Infantry Division 5th Marine Regiment 11th PA Infantry Division 4th Marine Regiment 71st PA Infantry Division 45th PS Infantry Regiment 31st PA Infantry Division 145th Infantry Regiment 31st Infantry Regiment 192nd Tank Battalion 763rd Tank Battalion 254th Armoured Brigade 86th PS Field Artillery Battalion 1st RM Heavy AA Regiment 88th PS Field Artillery Regiment 24th PS FA Regiment I/Prov'nl SPM Grp Defending units: 1st Raiding Regiment 52nd Division 21st Ind Engineer Regiment 65th Brigade 3rd Ind Engineer Regiment 48th/C Division 48th Field AA Battalion 7th Port Unit 17th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 56th Const Co 13th Air Flotilla 6th Naval Construction Battalion 15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion 9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion 14th Army 1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment 4th Field Construction Battalion 40th JAAF AF Bn -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Liaoyuan (105,40) Allied Deliberate attack Attacking force 58205 troops, 900 guns, 1769 vehicles, Assault Value = 2060 Defending force 31675 troops, 445 guns, 868 vehicles, Assault Value = 1046 Assault collapses, survivors seek cover Japanese ground losses: 68 casualties reported Squads: 2 destroyed, 5 disabled Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Vehicles lost 31 (21 destroyed, 10 disabled) Allied ground losses: 172 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 23 disabled Non Combat: 25 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Vehicles lost 92 (85 destroyed, 7 disabled) Units destroyed 1 Assaulting units: 35th Tank Battalion 51st Cavalry Division 75th Tank Brigade 40th Rifle Division 226th Rifle Brigade 57th Motor Rifle Division 261st Rifle Brigade 208th Tank Brigade 22nd Rifle Division 7th Mongolian Motor Brigade 199th BM Howitzer Regiment 1140th Cannon Regiment 282nd/382nd AA Battalion 2nd Rifle Corps 106th/1146th How. Regiment 1233rd Cannon Regiment 17th Army 1130th Howitzer Regiment 405th/414th AA Battalion Defending units: 9th Tank Regiment 3rd Mobile Infantry Regiment 13th Tank Regiment 3rd Recon Battalion 1st Manchukuo Cavalry Division 11th Tank Regiment 14th Division 3rd Mobile Engineer Regiment 1st Tank Division 9th Manchukuo Inf Brigade 42nd Ind.AA Gun Co 26th Air Defense AA Regiment 3rd Mobile AA Battalion 45th Field Const Co 46th Field Const Co 27th Fld AA Machinecannon Company 3rd Mobile Field Artillery Regiment 6th Army 7th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 20th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 16th Field AA Machinecannon Company 99th JAAF AF Bn -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- One of my favourite early war planes, but have to be so careful with them. So fragile against fighters. [image]local://upfiles/37283/30C00257DB38495C9DFE59C732A3E3D2.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: Lowpe (J) vs obvert (A) (5/10/2019 10:34:39 AM)
Dec 13, 1942 Hangchow is reinforced and the naval bombardments help to give the Japanese a 1:5 defence, disabling a large number of Chinese. The Marines will have to take this one on in a few days. I need firepower. At San Fernando the Japanese get a 1:1 against the PI troops, and the better Allied units will start to move in and exchange for some worn and reduced PI and armoured units. Some of the battles up in Northern China are ongoing, and although I only got a 1:2 near Tatung, I think this is progress and a few more will knock these troops back. This will be part of the siege of Peiping in a few more hexes. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 13, 1942 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Naval bombardment of Hangchow at 90,55 Japanese Ships BB Yamashiro BB Hiei Allied ground losses: 172 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 14 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled BB Yamashiro firing at 10th Chinese Corps -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Naval bombardment of Nanking at 91,52 Japanese Ships CA Myoko CL Jintsu Allied ground losses: 141 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 12 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled CA Myoko firing at 8th Chinese Corps -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Naval bombardment of San Fernando at 80,74 Allied Ships CA Hawkins CA Exeter CA Devonshire CA Canberra Japanese ground losses: 422 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 30 disabled Engineers: 2 destroyed, 5 disabled Guns lost 4 (2 destroyed, 2 disabled) Vehicles lost 4 (2 destroyed, 2 disabled) Airbase hits 2 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 13 Port hits 2 Port supply hits 2 CA Hawkins firing at 52nd Division -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at San Fernando (80,74) Allied Deliberate attack Attacking force 42121 troops, 440 guns, 537 vehicles, Assault Value = 1345 Defending force 29950 troops, 201 guns, 154 vehicles, Assault Value = 517 Allied adjusted assault: 615 Japanese adjusted defense: 537 Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 0) Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 0 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 2030 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 89 disabled Non Combat: 39 destroyed, 25 disabled Engineers: 39 destroyed, 3 disabled Vehicles lost 17 (7 destroyed, 10 disabled) Units destroyed 1 Allied ground losses: 1400 casualties reported Squads: 38 destroyed, 122 disabled Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 15 disabled Engineers: 4 destroyed, 7 disabled Guns lost 16 (7 destroyed, 9 disabled) Vehicles lost 24 (12 destroyed, 12 disabled) Assaulting units: 31st Infantry Regiment 2nd Cav Recce Regiment 4th Marine Regiment 5th Marine Regiment 11th PA Infantry Division 762nd Tank Battalion 31st PA Infantry Division 145th Infantry Regiment 192nd Tank Battalion 763rd Tank Battalion 71st PA Infantry Division 45th PS Infantry Regiment 21st PA Infantry Division 1st Tank Battalion 254th Armoured Brigade 86th PS Field Artillery Battalion 88th PS Field Artillery Regiment 24th PS FA Regiment 1st RM Heavy AA Regiment I/Prov'nl SPM Grp Defending units: 21st Ind Engineer Regiment 65th Brigade 3rd Ind Engineer Regiment 52nd Division 48th/C Division 7th Port Unit 4th Field Construction Battalion 56th Const Co 15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion 14th Army 2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion 17th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 1st Raiding Regiment 6th Naval Construction Battalion 13th Air Flotilla 9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 48th Field AA Battalion 1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment 40th JAAF AF Bn -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Hangchow (90,55) Allied Deliberate attack Attacking force 32694 troops, 230 guns, 272 vehicles, Assault Value = 2005 Defending force 27639 troops, 191 guns, 24 vehicles, Assault Value = 788 Allied adjusted assault: 196 Japanese adjusted defense: 1083 Allied assault odds: 1 to 5 (fort level 2) Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 1013 casualties reported Squads: 4 destroyed, 104 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Allied ground losses: 1825 casualties reported Squads: 14 destroyed, 254 disabled Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 27 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 19 disabled Vehicles lost 26 (1 destroyed, 25 disabled) Assaulting units: 632nd Tank Destroyer Battalion 78th Chinese Corps 73rd Chinese Corps 37th Chinese Corps 637th Tank Destroyer Battalion 1st KNIL Regiment 10th Chinese Corps 1st USMC Tank Battalion 79th Chinese Corps 85th British AT Gun Regiment 2/3rd Light AA Regiment 2/13th Fld RAA Regiment 209th Field Artillery Battalion 1st USMC Field Artillery Battalion 23rd Group Army Defending units: 34th Division Kyuko Naval Guard Unit 12th Ind.Mixed Brigade 2nd Ind.Mixed Regiment 13th Garrison Unit -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at 93,38 (near Tatung) Allied Deliberate attack Attacking force 28821 troops, 158 guns, 555 vehicles, Assault Value = 1114 Defending force 11860 troops, 80 guns, 135 vehicles, Assault Value = 329 Allied adjusted assault: 425 Japanese adjusted defense: 676 Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 1411 casualties reported Squads: 5 destroyed, 99 disabled Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 47 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled Allied ground losses: 246 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 45 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 21 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 10 (1 destroyed, 9 disabled) Vehicles lost 43 (1 destroyed, 42 disabled) Assaulting units: 171st Tank Brigade 203rd Tank Brigade 8th Route Army 76th Chinese Corps 30th Motorcycle Regiment 15th Chinese Corps 259th Brigade 117th/428th OM Gun Battalion Defending units: 17th Tank Regiment 26th/A Division 26th/B Division NCPC Army North China Area Army 1st Cavalry Brigade -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here is the info screen as we approach 42. A ways to go yet. [image]local://upfiles/37283/0CB83D5C091B4CE2AD1C7A977DD55BC7.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: Lowpe (J) vs obvert (A) (5/13/2019 11:55:02 AM)
Dec 14, 1942 The IJN continues to bombard at Hangchow and now also at Nanking. I'll being moving some subs up there to hang out and possibly even drop some mines. I have a much closer sub base now in operation at Manila after the resupply and instalment of the auxiliaries over the past week. Made some progress at San Fernando. I'll wait now for the fresh troops to continue. Up in Northern China the slow process toward Peiping continues with a small IJA stack being pushed back again. I've been prepping fro some Central and North Central Pacific bases with the Aleutian troops. Some have already neared full readiness to hit bases like Pagan, Marcus Island and Iwo Jima. I'll continue for another few weeks, and then make sure the Allied CVs are up to the task. The Saratoga is just about ready but we'll lose the Invincible to Europe soon. The KB hasn't been sighted for just over two weeks now. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 14, 1942 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Naval bombardment of Hangchow at 90,55 Japanese Ships BB Yamashiro BB Hiei Allied ground losses: 185 casualties reported Squads: 2 destroyed, 7 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 11 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled BB Yamashiro firing at 79th Chinese Corps -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Naval bombardment of Nanking at 91,52 Japanese Ships CA Myoko CL Jintsu Allied ground losses: 95 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled CA Myoko firing at 59th Chinese Corps -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Wakkanai at 122,47 Japanese Ships xAK Karachi Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire Allied Ships SS Scorpion xAK Karachi Maru is sighted by SS Scorpion -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at San Fernando (80,74) Allied Deliberate attack Attacking force 40958 troops, 434 guns, 521 vehicles, Assault Value = 1212 Defending force 28339 troops, 202 guns, 148 vehicles, Assault Value = 441 Allied adjusted assault: 457 Japanese adjusted defense: 245 Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 0) Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 0 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 1909 casualties reported Squads: 11 destroyed, 204 disabled Non Combat: 18 destroyed, 41 disabled Engineers: 4 destroyed, 18 disabled Guns lost 24 (8 destroyed, 16 disabled) Vehicles lost 20 (7 destroyed, 13 disabled) Units destroyed 2 Allied ground losses: 686 casualties reported Squads: 4 destroyed, 62 disabled Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 53 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Guns lost 18 (4 destroyed, 14 disabled) Vehicles lost 93 (22 destroyed, 71 disabled) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at 93,38 (near Tatung) Allied Deliberate attack Attacking force 28548 troops, 157 guns, 556 vehicles, Assault Value = 1070 Defending force 10704 troops, 80 guns, 135 vehicles, Assault Value = 240 Allied adjusted assault: 676 Japanese adjusted defense: 289 Allied assault odds: 2 to 1 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), supply(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 3813 casualties reported Squads: 40 destroyed, 17 disabled Non Combat: 146 destroyed, 51 disabled Engineers: 5 destroyed, 4 disabled Guns lost 21 (12 destroyed, 9 disabled) Vehicles lost 81 (41 destroyed, 40 disabled) Units retreated 5 Allied ground losses: 502 casualties reported Squads: 6 destroyed, 66 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Vehicles lost 26 (1 destroyed, 25 disabled) Defeated Japanese Units Retreating! Assaulting units: 15th Chinese Corps 203rd Tank Brigade 76th Chinese Corps 8th Route Army 171st Tank Brigade 30th Motorcycle Regiment 259th Brigade 117th/428th OM Gun Battalion Defending units: 17th Tank Regiment 26th/A Division 26th/B Division NCPC Army North China Area Army 1st Cavalry Brigade -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Some interesting recon results from our new secret base at Haichow on the Chinese coastline. [image]local://upfiles/37283/85E45D5C48F14896B59C9F9A08F1CEA1.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: Lowpe (J) vs obvert (A) (5/16/2019 7:57:52 AM)
Dec 15-16, 1942 Bombardments continue at Hangchow, but the Japanese aren't reinforcing. This should leave them in a bad position soon. Since mines are also on the way, these bombardments will likely stop at some point. [;)] At Liauyuan the MiGs continue to pare down the Japanese CAP. It's slow, but they are taking almost no losses, so I'll keep it going. Soon I'll add some Il-2 and hit the airfields and troops. I'm beginning to really like this plane. On the ground another DA at San Fernando does good work, and with fresh troops ready soon the base should fall within days. On the 16th I begin strat bombing with Soviet bombers from Vladivostok. It's a long journey for them and only a few bases are in normal range. I'll try some night bombing and possibly some day strikes if recon shows few fighters up in certain bases. It's a res, but could be worth it. The Chinese will try a DA at Canton after finding a solid majority in numbers and having built some forts to protect themselves in the bombardment phase. It'll be a long one I fear. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 15, 1942 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Submarine attack near Toyohara at 125,47 Japanese Ships xAK India Maru, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, heavy damage Allied Ships SS Barb xAK India Maru is sighted by SS Barb SS Barb attacking on the surface -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Naval bombardment of Hangchow at 90,55 Japanese Ships BB Yamashiro BB Hiei Allied ground losses: 82 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled BB Yamashiro firing at 2/13th Fld RAA Regiment F1M2 Pete acting as spotter for BB Hiei BB Hiei firing at 73rd Chinese Corps -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Naval bombardment of Nanking at 91,52 Japanese Ships CA Myoko CL Jintsu Allied ground losses: 63 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled CA Myoko firing at 90th Chinese Corps E7K2 Alf acting as spotter for CL Jintsu CL Jintsu firing at 30th Chinese Corps -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Liaoyuan , at 105,40 Weather in hex: Light cloud Raid detected at 46 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 11 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M3 Zero x 14 Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 14 Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 9 Allied aircraft MiG-3 x 18 Japanese aircraft losses A6M3 Zero: 2 destroyed Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 2 destroyed No Allied losses Aircraft Attacking: 9 x MiG-3 sweeping at 33000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Liaoyuan , at 105,40 Weather in hex: Light cloud Raid detected at 14 NM, estimated altitude 37,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 3 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M3 Zero x 5 Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 9 Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 5 Allied aircraft MiG-3 x 10 Japanese aircraft losses A6M3 Zero: 1 destroyed Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 1 destroyed No Allied losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at San Fernando (80,74) Allied Deliberate attack Attacking force 40734 troops, 433 guns, 508 vehicles, Assault Value = 1135 Defending force 26394 troops, 194 guns, 142 vehicles, Assault Value = 285 Allied adjusted assault: 375 Japanese adjusted defense: 247 Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 0) Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 0 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 2435 casualties reported Squads: 23 destroyed, 152 disabled Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 49 disabled Engineers: 5 destroyed, 9 disabled Guns lost 26 (5 destroyed, 21 disabled) Vehicles lost 5 (3 destroyed, 2 disabled) Allied ground losses: 1088 casualties reported Squads: 12 destroyed, 87 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 27 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled Guns lost 9 (1 destroyed, 8 disabled) Vehicles lost 40 (12 destroyed, 28 disabled) Assaulting units: 71st PA Infantry Division 192nd Tank Battalion 762nd Tank Battalion 31st PA Infantry Division 4th Marine Regiment 2nd Cav Recce Regiment 11th PA Infantry Division 1st Tank Battalion 45th PS Infantry Regiment 763rd Tank Battalion 31st Infantry Regiment 145th Infantry Regiment 21st PA Infantry Division 5th Marine Regiment 254th Armoured Brigade 88th PS Field Artillery Regiment 24th PS FA Regiment 1st RM Heavy AA Regiment 86th PS Field Artillery Battalion I/Prov'nl SPM Grp Defending units: 52nd Division 65th Brigade 48th/C Division 13th Air Flotilla 7th Port Unit 1st Raiding Regiment 9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 56th Const Co 1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment 4th Field Construction Battalion 17th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 14th Army 3rd Ind Engineer Regiment 6th Naval Construction Battalion 48th Field AA Battalion 40th JAAF AF Bn -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 16, 1942 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Sapporo , at 120,51 Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid detected at 36 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 12 minutes Japanese aircraft F1M2 Pete x 4 Allied aircraft DB-3M x 15 No Japanese losses No Allied losses Manpower hits 1 Fires 135 Aircraft Attacking: 3 x DB-3M bombing from 7000 feet City Attack: 10 x 100 kg GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Sapporo , at 120,51 Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 6 minutes Japanese aircraft F1M2 Pete x 4 Allied aircraft DB-3T x 9 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses DB-3T: 1 damaged Aircraft Attacking: 9 x DB-3T bombing from 7000 feet City Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Naval bombardment of Hangchow at 90,55 Japanese Ships BB Yamashiro BB Hiei CA Myoko CL Jintsu DD Murakumo DD Shigure DD Arare DD Amatsukaze DD Oyashio Allied ground losses: 190 casualties reported Squads: 2 destroyed, 25 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 11 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled) BB Yamashiro firing at 1st KNIL Regiment -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Liaoyuan , at 105,40 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 37,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 9 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M3 Zero x 11 Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 9 Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 7 Allied aircraft MiG-3 x 15 Japanese aircraft losses A6M3 Zero: 3 destroyed Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 2 destroyed No Allied losses Aircraft Attacking: 6 x MiG-3 sweeping at 33000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Liaoyuan , at 105,40 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 26 NM, estimated altitude 36,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 6 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 4 Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 3 Allied aircraft MiG-3 x 10 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 1 destroyed Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed No Allied losses Aircraft Attacking: 8 x MiG-3 sweeping at 33000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at 94,37 (near Tatung) Allied Deliberate attack Attacking force 54792 troops, 886 guns, 566 vehicles, Assault Value = 1663 Defending force 42697 troops, 402 guns, 232 vehicles, Assault Value = 1194 Allied adjusted assault: 428 Japanese adjusted defense: 2697 Allied assault odds: 1 to 6 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 441 casualties reported Squads: 10 destroyed, 70 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled Guns lost 17 (1 destroyed, 16 disabled) Allied ground losses: 2279 casualties reported Squads: 11 destroyed, 152 disabled Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 36 disabled Engineers: 3 destroyed, 68 disabled Guns lost 42 (3 destroyed, 39 disabled) Vehicles lost 29 (3 destroyed, 26 disabled) Assaulting units: 103rd Rifle Division 277th Engineer Battalion 9th Armored Car Brigade 94th Rifle Division 11th Chinese Corps 192nd OM Gun Battalion 177th Mortar Regiment 310th Guards Mortar Regiment 267th Cannon Regiment 67th Mortar Brigade 216th Howitzer Regiment 53rd Mortar Brigade 181st Mortar Regiment 550th BM Howitzer Regiment 183rd Mortar Regiment 43rd/44th AA Battalion 1129th Hvy Howitzer Regiment 60th Guards Mortar Regiment Defending units: 29th/A Division 29th/B Division 15th Ind.Mixed Brigade 10th/C Division 10th/A Division 29th/C Division 138th Infantry Regiment 10th/B Division 24th/A Division Botanko Hvy Gun Regiment 6th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 2nd Hvy.Artillery Regiment 15th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 13th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Taichow (92,52) Allied Shock attack Attacking force 33263 troops, 286 guns, 102 vehicles, Assault Value = 1015 Defending force 1434 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 53 Allied adjusted assault: 525 Japanese adjusted defense: 2 Allied assault odds: 262 to 1 (fort level 1) Allied forces CAPTURE Taichow !!! Combat modifiers Defender: experience(-) Attacker: shock(+) Japanese ground losses: 1034 casualties reported Squads: 43 destroyed, 2 disabled Non Combat: 13 destroyed, 11 disabled Engineers: 5 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 13 (13 destroyed, 0 disabled) Units retreated 1 Allied ground losses: 174 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 25 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Defeated Japanese Units Retreating! Assaulting units: 12th Chinese Corps 82nd Chinese Corps 413th Howitzer Regiment 32nd Guards Mortar Regiment 33rd Guards Mortar Regiment 39th Guards Mortar Regiment Defending units: 19th RGC Temp. Division -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Canton (77,59) Allied Bombardment attack Attacking force 3720 troops, 209 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3793 Defending force 53256 troops, 435 guns, 148 vehicles, Assault Value = 1360 Japanese ground losses: 32 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled) Assaulting units: 60th Chinese Corps 2nd Prov Chinese Corps 65th Chinese Corps 31st Chinese Corps 25th Chinese Corps 86th Chinese Corps 18th Chinese Corps 14th Chinese Corps 7th Cav Recce Regiment 26th Chinese Corps Mobiele Battalion 4th Chinese Corps 6th Chinese Corps 57th AT Gun Regiment 22nd Artillery Regiment 3rd Heavy Mortar Regiment 16th Group Army 7th Artillery Regiment 1st Artillery Regiment 20th Artillery Regiment 4th Heavy Mortar Regiment 18th Artillery Regiment 56th AT Gun Regiment Defending units: 22nd/B Division Sasebo 6th SNLF 51st Engineer Regiment 102nd Infantry Regiment 19th Ind.Mixed Brigade 104th/B Division 104th/C Division 2nd Raiding Regiment 1st Ind.Inf.Group 20th RGC Division 66th Infantry Regiment 104th/A Division 22nd/C Division 47th JAAF AF Bn Canton Special Base Force 21st Mortar Battalion 23rd Army 4th Air Div /1 32nd JNAF AF Unit 8th Field Const Bn /2 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [image]local://upfiles/37283/05D83E11BB704B77A6FB71130623F0E5.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: Lowpe (J) vs obvert (A) (5/16/2019 8:10:22 AM)
Here is a look at China. [image]local://upfiles/37283/713A6D3C701A4F59BF09C901DD9487EE.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: Lowpe (J) vs obvert (A) (5/16/2019 11:59:26 AM)
Dec 17-18, 1942 A very important two turns. I decided as the USAAF prepares a few bases for strat bombing the Home Islands, now that I'm getting decent recon I should try with the remaining Soviet LR 2E bombers. I have about 80 DBM-3 and DBM-3T left from the early war. They are 11/13 range, so hit many of the more important central bases on Honshu and Hokkaido from Vlad. The DBM-3 has 10 x 100kg bombs, which is good for strat bombing Manpower as it allows more chances to hit and start fires. The pilots are also top notch 70+/70+. I tried a night raid on Sapporo not very successfully, and I'll keep doing that from NE bases with the old rickety Soviet 4Es. For the others I decided on a quick hit double strike over two days. After the night bombing I went daylight to Niigata, a Japanese oil producing center, and went only for oil. The strike resulted in 23 hits to the oil and I'll recon to see more conclusively the damage there. On the 18th though I decided to go all-in (42 style anyway). I sent them all to Osaka to bomb Manpower. There were some Nicks on CAP, but the strike got through, and fires were started. During the turn it looks like 13,000+, and they were still burning at 6900+ at the end of turn. There was no damage t that point, but fires work in mysterious ways ... Elsewhere the carnage above Liauyuan keeps coming, with MiGs still flying sweeps. Just about time for the bombing runs to start. Took San Fernando on Luzon with heavy Japanese losses. Also very close to taking Miri. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 17, 1942 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Naval bombardment of Hangchow at 90,55 Japanese Ships BB Yamashiro BB Hiei CA Myoko CL Jintsu DD Murakumo DD Shigure DD Arare DD Amatsukaze DD Oyashio Allied ground losses: 206 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 25 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 45 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Guns lost 9 (1 destroyed, 8 disabled) BB Yamashiro firing at 3rd Marine Division -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Liaoyuan , at 105,40 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 29 NM, estimated altitude 38,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 7 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M3 Zero x 18 Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 8 Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 20 Allied aircraft MiG-3 x 18 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses MiG-3: 1 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Liaoyuan , at 105,40 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 45 NM, estimated altitude 38,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 11 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M3 Zero x 13 Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 8 Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 14 Allied aircraft MiG-3 x 13 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses MiG-3: 1 destroyed Aircraft Attacking: 1 x MiG-3 sweeping at 33000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Liaoyuan , at 105,40 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 5 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M3 Zero x 8 Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 5 Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 5 Allied aircraft MiG-3 x 10 Japanese aircraft losses A6M3 Zero: 1 destroyed Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed No Allied losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Niigata , at 114,57 Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid detected at 37 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 12 minutes Allied aircraft DB-3M x 34 DB-3T x 45 Allied aircraft losses DB-3M: 1 damaged Oil hits 23 Aircraft Attacking: 7 x DB-3M bombing from 5000 feet City Attack: 10 x 100 kg GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 18, 1942 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Liaoyuan , at 105,40 Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid detected at 33 NM, estimated altitude 36,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 8 minutes Allied aircraft MiG-3 x 12 No Allied losses Aircraft Attacking: 12 x MiG-3 sweeping at 33000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Osaka/Kyoto , at 109,59 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 6 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 11 Allied aircraft DB-3M x 33 DB-3T x 30 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses DB-3M: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged DB-3T: 3 destroyed, 6 damaged DB-3T: 1 destroyed by flak Manpower hits 89 Fires 13413 Aircraft Attacking: 6 x DB-3M bombing from 5000 feet * City Attack: 5 x 100 kg GP Bomb 20 x DB-3M bombing from 5000 feet * City Attack: 5 x 100 kg GP Bomb 6 x DB-3M bombing from 5000 feet * City Attack: 5 x 100 kg GP Bomb 16 x DB-3T bombing from 5000 feet * City Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb 9 x DB-3T bombing from 5000 feet * City Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb CAP engaged: 75th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (3 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling) 3 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 11000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 8 minutes -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Osaka/Kyoto , at 109,59 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 5 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2-N Rufe x 10 Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 10 Allied aircraft DB-3T x 15 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses DB-3T: 4 destroyed CAP engaged: Kamikawa Maru-1 with A6M2-N Rufe (10 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (10 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 10 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 9000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 9000. Raid is overhead 8th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (6 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (6 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 6 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 9000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 9000. Raid is overhead 75th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 11000 , scrambling fighters to 5000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 62 minutes -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at San Fernando (80,74) Allied Deliberate attack Attacking force 42613 troops, 494 guns, 529 vehicles, Assault Value = 1622 Defending force 21771 troops, 153 guns, 135 vehicles, Assault Value = 85 Allied adjusted assault: 548 Japanese adjusted defense: 139 Allied assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 0) Allied forces CAPTURE San Fernando !!! Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), fatigue(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 7797 casualties reported Squads: 255 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 334 destroyed, 42 disabled Engineers: 73 destroyed, 1 disabled Guns lost 47 (45 destroyed, 2 disabled) Vehicles lost 91 (90 destroyed, 1 disabled) Units retreated 14 Allied ground losses: 434 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 51 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 9 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled Vehicles lost 8 (4 destroyed, 4 disabled) Defeated Japanese Units Retreating! Assaulting units: 641st Towed Tank Destroyer Battalion 112th Cavalry Regiment 2/1st Pioneer Battalion 3rd USMC Tank Battalion 31st PA Infantry Division 1st Tank Battalion 17th Australian Brigade 182nd Infantry Regiment 11th PA Infantry Division 108th Infantry Regiment 21st PA Infantry Division 5th Marine Regiment 7th Marine Regiment 13th Australian Brigade 254th Armoured Brigade 88th PS Field Artillery Regiment 24th PS FA Regiment 3rd AmphTrac Engineer Battalion 1st RM Heavy AA Regiment 86th PS Field Artillery Battalion I/Prov'nl SPM Grp Defending units: 52nd Division 65th Brigade 48th/C Division 9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 56th Const Co 6th Naval Construction Battalion 7th Port Unit 4th Field Construction Battalion 1st Raiding Regiment 40th JAAF AF Bn 3rd Ind Engineer Regiment 17th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 14th Army 1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment 13th Air Flotilla /3 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Miri (64,87) Allied Deliberate attack Attacking force 9007 troops, 94 guns, 239 vehicles, Assault Value = 347 Defending force 9191 troops, 67 guns, 68 vehicles, Assault Value = 77 Allied adjusted assault: 98 Japanese adjusted defense: 51 Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 1) Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 0 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), supply(-) Attacker: fatigue(-) Japanese ground losses: 1767 casualties reported Squads: 47 destroyed, 29 disabled Non Combat: 23 destroyed, 28 disabled Engineers: 10 destroyed, 4 disabled Guns lost 10 (5 destroyed, 5 disabled) Vehicles lost 8 (4 destroyed, 4 disabled) Allied ground losses: 59 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Assaulting units: 2nd USMC Tank Battalion 17th Indian Division 254th Armoured Bde /1 Defending units: 87th Naval Guard Unit 44th Naval Guard Unit 4th Naval Construction Battalion 43rd Const Co 97th JAAF AF Bn 8th Tank Regiment 23rd AA Regiment Southern Fleet /3 3rd Air Division 9th Base Force 4th JNAF Coy 29th JAAF AF Coy 22nd Port Unit 4th Ind Engineer Regiment I/124th Infantry Bn /3 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These shots no damage but still told me something very useful (besides the fires still burning). The Jack production changed by +2 at the factory over thee two turns. That means it's producing!!! [X(] [image]local://upfiles/37283/A86A7B0C835B409992A31EF6C6AC121B.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: Lowpe (J) vs obvert (A) (5/16/2019 2:42:20 PM)
Dec 20-21, 1942 The milk run bombardments are keeping the Marine ID at Hangchow disrupted enough that I don't want to attack just yet. The tanks are untouched and repairing though, which is good. So since these are becoming predictable I decided to see if anything would change if I showed my CVs and fleet within range of a long flank run strike. I put the CVs off Luzon near Lingayen, and unless he just didn't see them, it seems not to have changed plans for those BBs. I'll move up one more day into a 16 hex range for a strike that also would miss the heavy CAP presence at Takao. If all looks good, I'll take a shot. Sara has rejoined the fleet and I have Illustrious for another week before she has to bust a move back to Columbo to withdraw. A replenishment TF will be with the fleet until they warp, and a new port along the Chinese coastline to base them for the return at Chachow. [:)] Some P-38s sweep and easy target at Keijo to kill off the CAP there in case I want to target the Manpower there, which is third biggest after Tokyo and Osaka. No P-38 losses. Ground troops finished off at San Fernando, Miri, Cagayan and Wusih. Also hit the Nanking airfields hard to eliminate that as a possible CAP base. To follow up on the Manpower bombing at Osaka, fires indeed did some damage the following turn. A few still burning in fact. [8D] I'll update the recon and totals after this post. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 20, 1942 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Naval bombardment of Hangchow at 90,55 Japanese Ships BB Yamashiro BB Hiei CA Myoko CL Jintsu DD Murakumo DD Shigure DD Arare DD Amatsukaze DD Oyashio Allied ground losses: 421 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 22 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 19 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled BB Yamashiro firing at 73rd Chinese Corps F1M2 Pete acting as spotter for BB Hiei -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Liaoyuan , at 105,40 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 34 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 11 minutes Allied aircraft IL-2 x 111 Allied aircraft losses IL-2: 7 damaged Airbase hits 22 Airbase supply hits 7 Runway hits 81 Aircraft Attacking: 25 x IL-2 bombing from 6000 feet Airfield Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 21, 1942 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Naval bombardment of Hangchow at 90,55 Japanese Ships BB Yamashiro BB Hiei CA Myoko CL Jintsu DD Murakumo DD Shigure DD Arare DD Amatsukaze DD Oyashio Allied ground losses: 381 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 31 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled BB Yamashiro firing at 3rd Marine Division F1M2 Pete acting as spotter for BB Hiei -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at 94,38 (near Tatung) Allied Deliberate attack Attacking force 26510 troops, 161 guns, 559 vehicles, Assault Value = 996 Defending force 13770 troops, 122 guns, 136 vehicles, Assault Value = 371 Allied adjusted assault: 851 Japanese adjusted defense: 1117 Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 814 casualties reported Squads: 5 destroyed, 120 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 8 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled Vehicles lost 25 (4 destroyed, 21 disabled) Allied ground losses: 574 casualties reported Squads: 14 destroyed, 45 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Guns lost 7 (2 destroyed, 5 disabled) Vehicles lost 15 (1 destroyed, 14 disabled) Assaulting units: 30th Motorcycle Regiment 15th Chinese Corps 171st Tank Brigade 8th Route Army 203rd Tank Brigade 76th Chinese Corps 117th/428th OM Gun Battalion Defending units: 26th/A Division 17th Tank Regiment 26th/B Division 24th/B Division North China Area Army 1st Cavalry Brigade -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here is a look at the problem I'm posing for Lowpe. Now, it could also be a problem for me, but I'll prepare for meeting the KB regardless of what happens. I don't think he'd try for an engagement right now, but I've been wrong before. [image]local://upfiles/37283/7101D0EAB38C4DEBB7D73560385BF354.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: Lowpe (J) vs obvert (A) (5/17/2019 8:07:26 AM)
Here is a look at fires and damage in Osaka. Amazing one a few littles fires can do once they get going here! [&o] So far we're at almost 900VP from this attack. Well worth the 14 DBM-3T lost in the strike. Lowpe has added CAP now of 50+ fighters. The more he has to draw down fighters from the front the more opportunities I'll have there to isolate bases and work on troops with bombing runs. Hitting a big base like this may also force him to protect the best industrial centres more heavily, leaving some smaller spots vulnerable. The HI took a pretty big hit, but no damage to the LI yet. A few fires still burning though! [image]local://upfiles/37283/8BC50219E62049AC8861284529729EC2.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: Lowpe (J) vs obvert (A) (5/17/2019 11:48:46 AM)
Dec 22, 1942 Interesting turn. The IJN moves in to around Vigan and connects with a CL TF I'd put forward there to shield the CVs .The TF barely engages though it outguns the Allied ships, so I think he was running fast transports to bring back troops from PI bases. The TF composition strikes me as odd too. Akizuki and Terazuki are here, which are the best CV escorts due to their 10cm DP guns, good range and ASW. So does that mean the KB is in port repairing? I haven't found it in any of the big repair yards in range, but Yokohama is beyond my recon now. In other news Shanghai port and airfields are hit hard, both because they were vulnerable and as this would make the base less of a refuge for any BBs in the area should they hang out there. And, it looks like they have. So ... I'll flank in with the CVs!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 22, 1942 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Vigan at 80,72, Range 11,000 Yards Japanese Ships CA Mikuma CL Tama CL Kiso DD Akizuki DD Teruzuki DD Makinami DD Kagero DD Harusame DD Yugure DD Ariake DD Ikazuchi DD Yuzuki DD Okikaze DD Shiokaze Allied Ships CL Ceres CL Detroit CL Trenton CL Caradoc DD Bagley DD Tjerk Hiddes, Shell hits 3 DD Van Galen DD Isis Improved night sighting under 100% moonlight Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 100% moonlight: 11,000 yards -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Naval bombardment of Hangchow at 90,55 Japanese Ships BB Yamashiro BB Hiei CA Myoko CL Jintsu DD Murakumo DD Shigure DD Arare DD Amatsukaze DD Oyashio Allied ground losses: 163 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 10 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled BB Yamashiro firing at 1st KNIL Regiment -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Vladivostok , at 112,46 Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid spotted at 22 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 6 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 24 Allied aircraft I-153 x 6 I-16m24 x 13 MiG-3 x 22 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 2 destroyed Allied aircraft losses I-153: 2 destroyed I-16m24: 3 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Shanghai , at 92,55 Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid detected at 27 NM, estimated altitude 39,550 feet. Estimated time to target is 6 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M3 Zero x 5 Allied aircraft Hurricane IIb Trop x 7 Hurricane IIc Trop x 9 P-38E Lightning x 19 Japanese aircraft losses A6M3 Zero: 2 destroyed No Allied losses Aircraft Attacking: 17 x P-38E Lightning sweeping at 34550 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Shanghai , at 92,55 Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 14 minutes Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft Hurricane IIb Trop x 7 Liberator II x 9 B-17E Fortress x 6 B-17F Fortress x 12 B-24D Liberator x 29 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 destroyed on ground No Allied losses Japanese Ships xAP Asama Maru, Bomb hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage ACM Seki Maru, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk PB Choun Maru #21, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk ACM Shawa Maru #10, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk PB Rokko Maru, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk xAK Okuyo Maru, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage PB Uchide Maru, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires Japanese ground losses: 11 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Repair Shipyard hits 1 Airbase hits 19 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 32 Port hits 1 Aircraft Attacking: 9 x Liberator II bombing from 10000 feet Port Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Shanghai , at 92,55 Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid detected at 37 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 10 minutes Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft Hurricane IIb Trop x 7 Hurricane IIc Trop x 8 B-17E Fortress x 6 B-24D Liberator x 9 B-25C Mitchell x 15 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 destroyed on ground No Allied losses Japanese Ships PB Musashi Maru, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk PB Banshu Maru #56, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk xAP Asama Maru, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage PB Uchide Maru, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage Airbase hits 2 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 5 Port hits 14 Port supply hits 1 Aircraft Attacking: 15 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet * Port Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Changchun , at 106,41 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 37 NM, estimated altitude 3,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 12 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M3 Zero x 22 Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 4 Allied aircraft IL-2 x 20 Japanese aircraft losses A6M3 Zero: 1 destroyed, 8 damaged Allied aircraft losses IL-2: 11 destroyed Airbase hits 2 Airbase supply hits 2 Runway hits 9 Aircraft Attacking: 8 x IL-2 bombing from 1000 feet Airfield Attack: 2 x 100 kg GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [image]local://upfiles/37283/C8505D51B3724D3785886C7B3D40D6E6.jpg[/image]

BBfanboy -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: Lowpe (J) vs obvert (A) (5/17/2019 5:48:11 PM)
In another thread about SCTF composition and tactics, Lowpe said he sets his SCTFs on Low Threat tolerance. I queried it and he said it was because he prefers to swarm a target with multiple small TFs and have them fight just long enough to fire their torps and use up a little of the enemy ammo. His first TFs are usually DDs/TBs which are fragile so he doesn't want a slugfest from them. The composition of that TF suggests he might have been planning to break it into several DD TFs with the CA coming in last to clean up whatever the DDs & CL could do with their torps.

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: Lowpe (J) vs obvert (A) (5/19/2019 2:30:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BBfanboy In another thread about SCTF composition and tactics, Lowpe said he sets his SCTFs on Low Threat tolerance. I queried it and he said it was because he prefers to swarm a target with multiple small TFs and have them fight just long enough to fire their torps and use up a little of the enemy ammo. His first TFs are usually DDs/TBs which are fragile so he doesn't want a slugfest from them. The composition of that TF suggests he might have been planning to break it into several DD TFs with the CA coming in last to clean up whatever the DDs & CL could do with their torps. At this point in this game the use of many small TFs would probably be counterproductive since the IJN has lost a lot of DDs and other fast escorts. I'm starting to get some Fletchers now too, which is great!

BBfanboy -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: Lowpe (J) vs obvert (A) (5/19/2019 2:42:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: obvert quote: ORIGINAL: BBfanboy In another thread about SCTF composition and tactics, Lowpe said he sets his SCTFs on Low Threat tolerance. I queried it and he said it was because he prefers to swarm a target with multiple small TFs and have them fight just long enough to fire their torps and use up a little of the enemy ammo. His first TFs are usually DDs/TBs which are fragile so he doesn't want a slugfest from them. The composition of that TF suggests he might have been planning to break it into several DD TFs with the CA coming in last to clean up whatever the DDs & CL could do with their torps. At this point in this game the use of many small TFs would probably be counterproductive since the IJN has lost a lot of DDs and other fast escorts. I'm starting to get some Fletchers now too, which is great! In general this is true, but Lowpe chooses his time and place to swarm the defences. Having Threat Tolerance set to LOW is designed to keep his DDs from engaging too long and getting beat up/sunk. He says they will engage weak forces long enough to sink them but will shy away from greater combat ship numbers or firepower. He seems to be looking for permanent kill points to add to the denominator of his total to ward off auto-vic. If he can find a bunch of poorly protected transports in a backwater area he can rack up a lot of points even if he loses a few DDs.

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: Lowpe (J) vs obvert (A) (5/20/2019 7:26:59 AM)
The CVs flanked in with solid surface escorts around them. I began to see sighting messages all over the lower Yangtze area and toward Hangchow. I had sent PTs down from Hankow toward Shanghai and they began to tangle with a CA led IJN TF. In a running battle the PTs dodged and weaved, some expending their torps and retiring, others surviving serval contacts, and then ... [image]local://upfiles/37283/39A28EC8D60E41F98969F4F088E0CE1B.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: Lowpe (J) vs obvert (A) (5/20/2019 7:39:54 AM)
... getting good hit on an IJN DD. Shigure is a Shiratsuya class DD, a very good surface combatant, and a nice trade for five PT boats lost. It doesn't appear the Allied ships are seen by night patrols, and that is all good. The less DL the better. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Tungchow at 92,53, Range 4,000 Yards Japanese Ships CA Myoko CL Jintsu DD Arare DD Shigure, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage DD Murakumo Allied Ships PT-156 PT-157, Shell hits 2, and is sunk PT-158 PT-159, Shell hits 2, and is sunk PT-160, Shell hits 1 PT-161 PT-162 Reduced visibility due to Rain with 100% moonlight Maximum visibility in Rain and 100% moonlight: 5,000 yards -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [image]local://upfiles/37283/C2C1829C14CB4ADD954B543C43519905.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: Lowpe (J) vs obvert (A) (5/20/2019 7:43:51 AM)
More good news as Yamashiro and company continue with their bombardments. They should be in range during the day. [:)] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Naval bombardment of Hangchow at 90,55 Japanese Ships BB Yamashiro BB Hiei Allied ground losses: 62 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 8 (1 destroyed, 7 disabled) BB Yamashiro firing at 3rd Marine Division F1M2 Pete acting as spotter for BB Hiei BB Hiei firing at 2/13th Fld RAA Regiment -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [image]local://upfiles/37283/6DC74EBE2ADA4DFA9F4A3083816AEBBF.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: Lowpe (J) vs obvert (A) (5/20/2019 7:45:10 AM)
During morning search Japanese patrols find the Allied CVs. The Allied search gets a lot of nearby hits, but one stands out ... [image]local://upfiles/37283/CDF9382CA774402596346ACBBFB370DA.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: Lowpe (J) vs obvert (A) (5/20/2019 7:49:12 AM)
... and suddenly the CVs have shot forward and the klaxons are blaring. The CAP is scrambled as a large Japanese strike is spotted coming from the North. Interesting it looks to be coming from a base hex, at Hangchow, which would put the IJN on the back foot with reduced numbers. This first strike comes in unescorted, but it's clear it's from CVs as Hangchow has only a size 1 airfield. [image]local://upfiles/37283/46D61C3823A14E1B8B258CF702151C54.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: Lowpe (J) vs obvert (A) (5/20/2019 7:51:25 AM)
The CAP has no problem repelling the strike with no attacks made against any ship. A very good start. Almost 20 Vals shot down as more than half of the strike turns tail. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Wenchow at 91,59 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 30 minutes Japanese aircraft D3A1 Val x 62 Allied aircraft Sea Hurricane Ib x 28 Martlet II x 12 F4F-4 Wildcat x 64 Japanese aircraft losses D3A1 Val: 13 destroyed No Allied losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [image]local://upfiles/37283/52738B610D0047B4B87D97177587AD78.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: Lowpe (J) vs obvert (A) (5/20/2019 7:53:48 AM)
It was all looking very promising until the first Allied strike showed and had only 13 escorts out of the over 60 set to fly with them. [&:] The IJN CAP did it's job, she down over half of the strike, but 14 Avengers and 21 SBD still made it through. Harried and harassed, they didn't hit much, but ... [image]local://upfiles/37283/43E379C3240442C3B081D083C26BA490.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: Lowpe (J) vs obvert (A) (5/20/2019 7:55:09 AM)
... they did make the hits pay off. Two penetrating 1000lb strikes crippled CVL Zuiho ... [image]local://upfiles/37283/6B6384A2AA1A48C9BA231E4696BC6332.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: Lowpe (J) vs obvert (A) (5/20/2019 7:58:51 AM)
Then two another hit CV Hiryu and penetrated the flight deck. A second bomb rocked the ship, and although she is shown only with fires burning, I'm guessing by the end of the day she'll be out of action and limping. The smaller CV Hiyo also took one big bomb, but none reported secondary explosions. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Hangchow at 90,55 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 15 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 77 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 16 SBD-3 Dauntless x 43 TBF-1 Avenger x 28 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses F4F-4 Wildcat: 4 destroyed SBD-3 Dauntless: 16 destroyed, 4 damaged SBD-3 Dauntless: 1 destroyed by flak TBF-1 Avenger: 10 destroyed, 5 damaged TBF-1 Avenger: 1 destroyed by flak Japanese Ships CV Hiyo, Bomb hits 1 CV Soryu CV Hiryu, Bomb hits 2, on fire CV Zuikaku CVE Hosho CVL Zuiho, Bomb hits 2 CVE Taiyo -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [image]local://upfiles/37283/E0DFAAC7387A418BA1F096FBCF582FC2.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: Lowpe (J) vs obvert (A) (5/20/2019 9:23:10 AM)
I then expected the worst. The Allied CVs do have a stronger percentage of fighters than the standard allocation, but this close to Japan any hit on a CV could be terminal. Thankfully, another large strike came in without escorts and again no bombers made it through to strike runs. [&o] This time the bulk of bombers stayed, and IJN strike groups were decimated. A few more smaller 3-5 plane packages also arrived and were despatched. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Shaohing at 92,58 Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 29 minutes Japanese aircraft B5N2 Kate x 47 D3A1 Val x 55 Allied aircraft Sea Hurricane Ib x 28 Martlet II x 12 F4F-4 Wildcat x 78 Japanese aircraft losses B5N2 Kate: 20 destroyed D3A1 Val: 26 destroyed No Allied losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [image]local://upfiles/37283/16A851AC1EB64C678355F3FE2FD8D5CD.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: Lowpe (J) vs obvert (A) (5/20/2019 9:29:03 AM)
The second Allied strike started out well, with a much larger escort as all assigned groups flew. The Wildcats cut through the CAP effectively and got more than half of the bombers to the targets, but they all missed.Then the CAP killed off more after the bombing runs. Not much left for a second day here. [:(] Interesting to note no fires listed on Hiryu and no Kaga or Akagi present in either strike. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Hangchow at 90,55 Weather in hex: Overcast Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 14 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 71 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 53 SBD-3 Dauntless x 25 TBF-1 Avenger x 15 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 5 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed SBD-3 Dauntless: 4 destroyed, 3 damaged SBD-3 Dauntless: 2 destroyed by flak TBF-1 Avenger: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged TBF-1 Avenger: 1 destroyed by flak Japanese Ships CV Hiryu CV Hiyo CV Shokaku CVE Hosho CV Soryu CV Zuikaku -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [image]local://upfiles/37283/75E0F1C6CF30461BA6136AB41F8B30C4.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: Lowpe (J) vs obvert (A) (5/20/2019 9:37:28 AM)
After the turn it is clear the Allied CVs reacted an additional two hexes away from their surface cover. Another three SCTFs are three hexes behind, so another SCTF will have to be created utilising CA Quincy and a few Fletchers to protect the CVs until more can arrive. The IJN has ships sprawled out everywhere, and although the CV his were positive (while incurring no losses to Allied ships), a chance was missed to cripple several BB and CA/CL nearby. Killing off 100+ IJN strike planes at this stage, with probably a collection of the mot expert pilots, will be valuable moving forward, but next turn is still a concern. [image]local://upfiles/37283/C1C9DBAD2E8F473B893E4DC41D7FF1EF.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: Lowpe (J) vs obvert (A) (5/21/2019 11:09:16 AM)
The next turn opens with some ominous movements toward the Allied CVs by the IJN. First the Quincy TF formed from the CV group is engaged by Yamashiro and Hiei. The Allies lose DD Buchanon to a single 36cm shot. The Yamashiro takes some good punches from Quincy's 8inch guns, and Quincy gets some back, but nothing decisive either way. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Shaohing at 92,58, Range 2,000 Yards Japanese Ships BB Hiei BB Yamashiro, Shell hits 6 DD Oyashio DD Amatsukaze Allied Ships CA Quincy, Shell hits 7 DD Nicholas DD Waller DD Aaron Ward, Shell hits 2, on fire DD Buchanan, Shell hits 1, and is sunk Poor visibility due to Thunderstorms with 96% moonlight Maximum visibility in Thunderstorms and 96% moonlight: 3,000 yards Range closes to 16,000 yards... CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 16,000 yards Range closes to 2,000 yards... CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 2,000 yards CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 2,000 yards Moore, S. crosses the 'T' BB Yamashiro engages CA Quincy at 2,000 yards -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [image]local://upfiles/37283/1ADED01CB889403DABA946E60F5B63C8.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: Lowpe (J) vs obvert (A) (5/21/2019 11:11:02 AM)
The big cruiser led TF seen off of Luzon moves away from Takao toward the Ryukyus and runs into some APDs I'd just sent racing to provide ASW near Shanghai. I lose one APD but the rest escape. This is good, as I have some forces now assembling to invade Formosa! [;)] [image]local://upfiles/37283/79AE50796589411189E1AD77E3427968.jpg[/image]

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