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Telemecus -> RE: Hermann (Axis) Vrs Dinglir (Soviet) - Hermann welcome (4/29/2017 2:58:16 PM)
turn 15 in spirit if not actual attachment? [:)]

Dinglir -> RE: Hermann (Axis) Vrs Dinglir (Soviet) - Hermann welcome (4/29/2017 4:09:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Telemecus turn 15 in spirit if not actual attachment? [:)] Well, it was rather uneventful...

Dinglir -> RE: Hermann (Axis) Vrs Dinglir (Soviet) - Hermann welcome (4/30/2017 2:28:06 PM)
Turn sixteen.

M60A3TTS -> RE: Hermann (Axis) Vrs Dinglir (Soviet) - Hermann welcome (4/30/2017 4:16:51 PM)
Unless there is some spectacular turnaround, you should have this one easily.

Dinglir -> RE: Hermann (Axis) Vrs Dinglir (Soviet) - Hermann welcome (5/4/2017 5:51:33 PM)
Turn seventeen.

Stelteck -> RE: Hermann (Axis) Vrs Dinglir (Soviet) - Hermann welcome (5/5/2017 7:03:07 AM)
Your tank production is very high probably because you did not transfered factories of leningrad and Kharkov yet. Congratulation. A funny think is that even if Leningrad is encercled and supplied only by sea, you are still probably able to evacuate factory from here at any time. In my current game Odessa is encercled and i still can evacuate factory from Odessa. (Sea evacuation of factories is working).

Telemecus -> RE: Hermann (Axis) Vrs Dinglir (Soviet) - Hermann welcome (5/5/2017 12:27:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Stelteck Sea evacuation of factories is working. That is a major learning point for me. The manual does give the impression that only rail not sea evacuation works. That means there is no gain for the Axis just getting the Germans to the coast of Lake Ladoga. And Dinglir has more turns in hand to get Leningrad industry out if needed. Can industry be evacuated port to port using only sea transport cap e.g. Odessa/kerch to say Batumi. In which case, assuming sea transport is not scarce, they can all be evacuated effectively for free i.e. not using any rail cap?

Stelteck -> RE: Hermann (Axis) Vrs Dinglir (Soviet) - Hermann welcome (5/5/2017 12:43:17 PM)
Evacuation of industries when no railroad are available.. (Like my Odessa). Still need Railroad capacity. (And double coast if adjacent to ennemy, so i will not evacuate it). It is more an exploit than a planned feature in my opinion.

Dinglir -> RE: Hermann (Axis) Vrs Dinglir (Soviet) - Hermann welcome (5/5/2017 6:14:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Stelteck Your tank production is very high probably because you did not transfered factories of leningrad and Kharkov yet. Actually, I have evacuated all the tank production from both cities. The result is a massive overall increase in tank production.

GeneralfeldmarschallWalterModel -> RE: Hermann (Axis) Vrs Dinglir (Soviet) - Hermann welcome (5/5/2017 9:47:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: M60A3TTS Unless there is some spectacular turnaround, you should have this one easily. Yes, it would seem it is easy to learn the Russian side of things. Berlin in 44 would seem the normal out come. Very hard to find good German player. If Dinglir uses his cavalry units the right way during blizzard this could end up like my 2 games with a general all out offensive in 1942. Dinglir don't waste allot of AP building gun SU's in 41 or 42, just build sappers. Good luck and grats on your win.

Hermann -> RE: Hermann (Axis) Vrs Dinglir (Soviet) - Hermann welcome (5/5/2017 10:43:14 PM)
ahem.... speaking as the defeated, wraithlike figure in the background... I've about 200 campaigns under my belt Herr Generalfeldmarschall, please don't write me off.

Stelteck -> RE: Hermann (Axis) Vrs Dinglir (Soviet) - Hermann welcome (5/6/2017 6:57:40 AM)
The war just started !!! [sm=00000436.gif]

Dinglir -> RE: Hermann (Axis) Vrs Dinglir (Soviet) - Hermann welcome (5/6/2017 12:27:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GeneralfeldmarschallWalterModel Yes, it would seem it is easy to learn the Russian side of things. Berlin in 44 would seem the normal out come. I guess one has to conclude, that if I win, it must be because the game is lopsided in favor of the Soviets and not because of skillfull play on my part [;)]

Dinglir -> RE: Hermann (Axis) Vrs Dinglir (Soviet) - Hermann welcome (5/6/2017 1:09:54 PM)
Turn eighteen to twentytwo.

HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Hermann (Axis) Vrs Dinglir (Soviet) - Hermann welcome (5/7/2017 9:45:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Dinglir quote: ORIGINAL: GeneralfeldmarschallWalterModel Yes, it would seem it is easy to learn the Russian side of things. Berlin in 44 would seem the normal out come. I guess one has to conclude, that if I win, it must be because the game is lopsided in favor of the Soviets and not because of skillfull play on my part [;)] The skew levels of the game is not as lopsided as people lead to believe them to be. There is always some in all games but 99% of the games is decided by the skill level of the people playing the game.

Dinglir -> RE: Hermann (Axis) Vrs Dinglir (Soviet) - Hermann welcome (5/7/2017 2:18:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain The skew levels of the game is not as lopsided as people lead to believe them to be. There is always some in all games but 99% of the games is decided by the skill level of the people playing the game. I guess I both agree and disagree on that one. I do admit that I haven't got hundreds of games to back this opinion with statistics, but so far it seems to me that: If two complete noobs play against each other (same skill level), I'd say the Soviet player would win any time. If two good players (same skill level) play against each other, I'd say the Germans are the favorites if the game is "Bitter End". In sudden death or standard rules, much depends on whether the Soviet player has a strategic or a tactical mindset. If two top level players play against each other, I have no idea what would happen. Of course, if one player is significantly more skilled than the other, he would win any time.

Crackaces -> RE: Hermann (Axis) Vrs Dinglir (Soviet) - Hermann welcome (5/7/2017 5:34:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Dinglir quote: ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain The skew levels of the game is not as lopsided as people lead to believe them to be. There is always some in all games but 99% of the games is decided by the skill level of the people playing the game. I guess I both agree and disagree on that one. I do admit that I haven't got hundreds of games to back this opinion with statistics, but so far it seems to me that: If two complete noobs play against each other (same skill level), I'd say the Soviet player would win any time. If two good players (same skill level) play against each other, I'd say the Germans are the favorites if the game is "Bitter End". In sudden death or standard rules, much depends on whether the Soviet player has a strategic or a tactical mindset. If two top level players play against each other, I have no idea what would happen. Of course, if one player is significantly more skilled than the other, he would win any time. I might offer that there is no true 'noob' "panzerballer" since so there are multiple threads highlighting optimal opening moves getting past at least the first point of a German failure. One other thought .. home rules with blizzard/+1 attacks can alter play balance dramatically. Thus I might propose that an expert German with mild winter will prevail against the very best ..

Dinglir -> RE: Hermann (Axis) Vrs Dinglir (Soviet) - Hermann welcome (5/7/2017 5:58:16 PM)
Turn twentythree

EwaldvonKleist -> RE: Hermann (Axis) Vrs Dinglir (Soviet) - Hermann welcome (5/7/2017 6:07:44 PM)
quote: If two top level players play against each other, I have no idea what would happen. Would be really interesting to follow AARs Hardluck vs. Mktours vs. MichealT or vs. some other good Players like VigaBrand and Pelton so we can found fan clubs :-) Alread looking forward to your winter counterattack Dinglir.

EwaldvonKleist -> RE: Hermann (Axis) Vrs Dinglir (Soviet) - Hermann welcome (5/7/2017 6:40:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Hermann ahem.... speaking as the defeated, wraithlike figure in the background... I've about 200 campaigns under my belt Herr Generalfeldmarschall, please don't write me off. How did you manage to play 200 Grand campaigns (?) since release? Around 30-40 per year, most people struggle like me struggle to do even 2 or 3.

Hermann -> RE: Hermann (Axis) Vrs Dinglir (Soviet) - Hermann welcome (5/7/2017 7:05:44 PM)
ive generally got 6 or 8 oing at any one time. a lot of guys uit sometimes I do when r/l gets in the way - such as fighting fires or driving trucks cross country - takes you out of the loop for months at a time. when a games hopeless I retire usually around turn 60, sometimes the panzerballers force an end by turn 20 I think ive got 8 going right now averaging 100 turns in but im working for myself atm and the business is just starting so ive time on my hands.

EwaldvonKleist -> RE: Hermann (Axis) Vrs Dinglir (Soviet) - Hermann welcome (5/7/2017 7:07:55 PM)
Wow, thats a lot of experience. How long do you usually need on one turn for Germans/Soviets, say during Operation Barbarossa Turn 1-17?

Hermann -> RE: Hermann (Axis) Vrs Dinglir (Soviet) - Hermann welcome (5/7/2017 11:21:49 PM)
20 minutes to 2 hours depending on the opponent

HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Hermann (Axis) Vrs Dinglir (Soviet) - Hermann welcome (5/8/2017 12:21:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: EwaldvonKleist quote: If two top level players play against each other, I have no idea what would happen. Would be really interesting to follow AARs Hardluck vs. Mktours vs. MichealT or vs. some other good Players like VigaBrand and Pelton so we can found fan clubs :-) I have played 2 of the four mentioned in this post ;-) I personally feel a game with Mktours would be hair raising for sure. Most of his posts are from a few years ago and he is always thinking outside the box which would keep any opponent on their toes. Mktours would have done nothing but improve upon his strats. I'm sure we will all meet in WiTE2 and there are a great many really good players than those just mentioned above. I personally have always consider myself mediocre at best at WiTE.

EwaldvonKleist -> RE: Hermann (Axis) Vrs Dinglir (Soviet) - Hermann welcome (5/8/2017 8:39:29 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Hermann 20 minutes to 2 hours depending on the opponent I can't do a satisfying turn 1-17 for both sides below at least 3 hours, often 4-5. I lack practice but I need a lot of time to optimize my path of attacks (of course no reloading, just counting hexagons/MPs and optimizing C&C and all that stuff). But I am slower than others in most things. quote: I have played 2 of the four mentioned in this post ;-) I personally feel a game with Mktours would be hair raising for sure. Most of his posts are from a few years ago and he is always thinking outside the box which would keep any opponent on their toes. Mktours would have done nothing but improve upon his strats. I'm sure we will all meet in WiTE2 and there are a great many really good players than those just mentioned above. I personally have always consider myself mediocre at best at WiTE. Right but vs. VigaBrand you did not use the Moscow first rush strategy and iIrc VB was confident to reach the winter. Is there an AAR of the game vs. Pelton? For a mediocre player you are doing surprisingly good. One could be lead to believe you are very good player :-)

HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Hermann (Axis) Vrs Dinglir (Soviet) - Hermann welcome (5/8/2017 8:59:19 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: EwaldvonKleist quote: ORIGINAL: Hermann 20 minutes to 2 hours depending on the opponent I can't do a satisfying turn 1-17 for both sides below at least 3 hours, often 4-5. I lack practice but I need a lot of time to optimize my path of attacks (of course no reloading, just counting hexagons/MPs and optimizing C&C and all that stuff). But I am slower than others in most things. quote: I have played 2 of the four mentioned in this post ;-) I personally feel a game with Mktours would be hair raising for sure. Most of his posts are from a few years ago and he is always thinking outside the box which would keep any opponent on their toes. Mktours would have done nothing but improve upon his strats. I'm sure we will all meet in WiTE2 and there are a great many really good players than those just mentioned above. I personally have always consider myself mediocre at best at WiTE. Right but vs. VigaBrand you did not use the Moscow first rush strategy and iIrc VB was confident to reach the winter. Is there an AAR of the game vs. Pelton? For a mediocre player you are doing surprisingly good. One could be lead to believe you are very good player :-) I will post a reply in the War Room to this since I don't want to distract from Dinglir's nice AAR write up :)

lowsugar -> RE: Hermann (Axis) Vrs Dinglir (Soviet) - Hermann welcome (5/8/2017 9:59:56 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain quote: ORIGINAL: EwaldvonKleist quote: I lack practice but I need a lot of time to optimize my path of attacks (of course no reloading, just counting hexagons/MPs and optimizing C&C and all that stuff). But I am slower than others in most things Why just not play whithout movement fog of war? This counting takes a lot of time.

Dinglir -> RE: Hermann (Axis) Vrs Dinglir (Soviet) - Hermann welcome (5/9/2017 6:25:32 PM)
Turn twentyfour.

EwaldvonKleist -> RE: Hermann (Axis) Vrs Dinglir (Soviet) - Hermann welcome (5/9/2017 6:57:32 PM)
Its Soviet OOB porn (you should classify this as mature content). And German artillery numbers seem to be very low.

Dinglir -> RE: Hermann (Axis) Vrs Dinglir (Soviet) - Hermann welcome (5/11/2017 8:44:03 PM)
Turn twentyfive.

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