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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (8/4/2020 10:23:52 PM)

Here are the losses by breakdown. Given that the bombers are 2 VP each this is a good day for the Empire of Japan. It was also another day of ferrying out troops from Pusan. Still working on the two divisions.

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RangerJoe -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (8/4/2020 11:32:20 PM)

Subs can also rescue downed pilots.



John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (8/4/2020 11:49:21 PM)


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Subs can also rescue downed pilots.

That's true but I think that's more of a help for the allies at this stage of the game than for me. Any of my pilots flying over the ocean are most likely to be kamikazes and, if they're getting rescued the Emperor is frowning. :)



RangerJoe -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (8/5/2020 12:18:12 AM)


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ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

Subs can also rescue downed pilots.

That's true but I think that's more of a help for the allies at this stage of the game than for me. Any of my pilots flying over the ocean are most likely to be kamikazes and, if they're getting rescued the Emperor is frowning. :)


Well, they can try it again!



John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (8/5/2020 1:23:04 PM)


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ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

Subs can also rescue downed pilots.

That's true but I think that's more of a help for the allies at this stage of the game than for me. Any of my pilots flying over the ocean are most likely to be kamikazes and, if they're getting rescued the Emperor is frowning. :)


Well, they can try it again!

I'm sure they would be more than happy to take off on a repeat kamikaze mission. :) Did you ever read Saburo Sakai's autobiography (an excellent book!)? He talks about taking off on a kamikaze mission and not finding the fleet so returning home.



RangerJoe -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (8/5/2020 4:17:46 PM)


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ORIGINAL: John B.


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ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

Subs can also rescue downed pilots.

That's true but I think that's more of a help for the allies at this stage of the game than for me. Any of my pilots flying over the ocean are most likely to be kamikazes and, if they're getting rescued the Emperor is frowning. :)


Well, they can try it again!

I'm sure they would be more than happy to take off on a repeat kamikaze mission. :) Did you ever read Saburo Sakai's autobiography (an excellent book!)? He talks about taking off on a kamikaze mission and not finding the fleet so returning home.


No, I have not read that one that I recall. I do recall that he did not shoot down a Dutch transport plane fleeing the DEI. A little boy on the lap of a woman waved at him through the window - the woman reminded him of someone who taught him English.



John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (8/5/2020 11:26:06 PM)

Well, as expected when Masan fell, Scott munched through my forces and took Pusan this turn. At a very high casualty rate and he's likely to triple that score once all the units are destroyed. Ugh. My only saving thought is that my aireal Dunkirk managed to pull out nearly two whole divisions from the debacle. They are now in Japan and resting.

I can't defend clear terrain hexes with out a whole lot of AA and there is not that much AA to go around.



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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (8/5/2020 11:26:48 PM)

Still, it's February 1945 and I'm ahead on points. :)

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RangerJoe -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (8/5/2020 11:47:59 PM)

That is the spirit! You are still WINNING!



BBfanboy -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (8/6/2020 1:30:41 AM)


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That is the spirit! You are still WINNING!

Let's not bring Charlie Sheen into this! [:-]



John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (8/6/2020 1:19:51 PM)


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That is the spirit! You are still WINNING!

Let's not bring Charlie Sheen into this! [:-]

:)



John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (8/6/2020 1:22:50 PM)

Well, and Neil Armstrong or some famous pilot/astronaut once said "no situation is so bad that you can't make it worse." So, in that sprite, I forgot to turn off my supply runs to Pusan and had lots of bombers shot down. The English are almost at the Chinese boarder and Scott bombed some oil in Northern Japan and blew up three points but lost two bombers doing so. Oil is not really a concern for me. I have 1.5 million stockpiled and once that's gone it does not really matter what little drops I have.

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (8/6/2020 9:36:31 PM)

On this day in Pixel history the Allies cleared out the Pusan perimeter and bombed Fukokua. They've adopted a new tactic of coming in above 25K feet to reduce flak losses, but it also seems to sharply reduce their accuracy. I still managed to shoot down a few B-29s. Otherwise, same ol same ol.

Still winning!

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (8/7/2020 12:40:44 AM)

A much better turn for the Empire of Japan. Not great, but the turns are running out so if I come out ahead for a turn that's one less that Scott has to catch up. Lots of allied flak and ops losses. He bombed the airfield at Fukokua where I had bombers flying supply to Korea. I lost a number of bombers, but he lost almost as many to flak so that's a win.

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (8/7/2020 12:44:11 AM)

Ooops, well I guess I did not save the VP screen. But, Scott lost a number of his strat bombers to flak and ops losses bombing Fukokua. As you can see, even though he threw in what looks like a most of his B-29s and B-24s the fire level was only 1408. He did a little bit of damage to the light industry but the rest of that damage was already there. Given that it was clear skies and he was not opposed other than by flak going in above 20K does seem to sharply reduce his accuracy.

In other news I hit 1 (or maybe 2) TKs near Johnston Island and Scott is advance out of Vietnam.

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RangerJoe -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (8/7/2020 1:33:39 AM)

Ever turn that he does not exceed the victory conditions is a loss for him, no matter how beat you feel. You just have to remain effective and not collapse.



John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (8/7/2020 1:06:46 PM)


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Ever turn that he does not exceed the victory conditions is a loss for him, no matter how beat you feel. You just have to remain effective and not collapse.

Oh, I'm not discouraged, at least not yet. :) He needs to make up a LOT of VP to win this so I think, right now, I have the edge. Scott is going a very good job of creeping closer with fighter bases so I've basically given up southern Japan and filled the cities with flak to extract a toll while my pixel workers toil away in engine factories in the north.

The main question I have is will he need to invade the HI to get a win. Manchuria does not seem like it's worth that much but, if he retakes China (Shanghai, Chungking) he picks up a lot of VP and takes a lot away from me. My goal is delay and look for openings to pick up VP here and there to give him a higher wall to climb.



John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (8/7/2020 6:58:11 PM)

Pretty much a ho hum turn. But, I like ho hum turns. They smell like victory. :) I did put four torpedoes into a TK and one into another. So, my subs are earning a few points here and there.

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (8/7/2020 6:59:58 PM)

Well, let's try that again.

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Cheesesteak -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (8/7/2020 7:17:30 PM)


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Well, let's try that again.

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inspired resistance!



John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (8/7/2020 10:51:34 PM)

And, another day under our belts. Not so much casualty wise (although I think I sank a DE north of New Guinea).

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (8/7/2020 10:55:05 PM)

In bigger news, Scott shelled the town whose name I can't remember but it's the circle on your right. It has a major 45 engine factory there as well as a number of air units. The Japanese are very vulnerable to shore bombardments wreaking havoc on their airfields. There are not nearly enough mines to protect the major sites. But, I'm putting mini subs there and I have a number of units on night naval attack. They all missed, but, maybe some day. :)

On your left Scott invaded the other island in the Tsushima straits. He'll take it next turn. He shelled it without 15 BBs and basically wiped out the fortress. It's worth VP but that's about it. And, he can't walk there to the shores of the HI.

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RangerJoe -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (8/8/2020 2:24:35 AM)


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ORIGINAL: John B.

In bigger news, Scott shelled the town whose name I can't remember but it's the circle on your right. It has a major 45 engine factory there as well as a number of air units. The Japanese are very vulnerable to shore bombardments wreaking havoc on their airfields. There are not nearly enough mines to protect the major sites. But, I'm putting mini subs there and I have a number of units on night naval attack. They all missed, but, maybe some day. :)

On your left Scott invaded the other island in the Tsushima straits. He'll take it next turn. He shelled it without 15 BBs and basically wiped out the fortress. It's worth VP but that's about it. And, he can't walk there to the shores of the HI.

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The target on the left looks like a nice place to flood with both MTBs and mini-subs on dark, stormy nights. Even minelayers, sub minelayers if you still have any. Just like how Snoopy started his stories . . . "On a dark and stormy night . . . "

If any damaged ships result, the base is captured, and the damaged ships disband into the port, possible night attacks. If there is little to no AAA there, especially the lighter calibers, night port attacks down low.

Some people complain about converting the To'su class to CMcs for their mines, laying them and then converting them to something else then back to CMcs. What the enemy did to that city shows just how much that is needed.



John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (8/8/2020 2:02:32 PM)

It's a nothing island so I don't really care. I'm saving the MTBs for when he hits the HI proper (if he ever does).

Allies airpower at this stage of the game really is a marvel. He has been bombing the same hex in China with more than 1,000 planes every day for about a month now. This does not count his strat bomber fleet, the planes on carriers, or the various PV-Venturas. Plus the fighters he is using as ground bombers in the hexes where he knows I don't have fighters.

On the plus side, he still has to dig me out and if I can stay out of clear terrain his bombing is much less effective. I did get another resupply convoy into Korea with 20k supply points and I suspect that every little bit is going to be needed.

Here is the latest. Still winning. :)

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RangerJoe -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (8/8/2020 2:43:06 PM)

Well, if you can afford to try it and especially if he is using older fighters to bomb your units, one turn of a LRCAP could surprise him. Sweepers to clear any Allied CAP out of the way. LRCAP the originating base of his fighters as well to increase the OPs losses if you can.

Your MTBs can be brought back, can they not? So if the visibility is low due to moonlight or storms, then it might be worth trying. Any extra points that you can pick up he has to match 4 times just to stay even so he has to get even more to be winning. These slow turns only help you but anything that you can do to slow him down, make him that more cautious, should help. Even float planes coming in at night at 100 or 1000 feet to bomb could do something when little everything thing hits him at once.



John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (8/8/2020 9:46:21 PM)

I don't think I have an endless supply of MTBs. They get built and sunk and once they're sunk I think they're gone. So, I'm waiting for an invasion. I've started putting minisubs in my vulnerable positions and I have lots of planes on night naval attack. He has a lot of points he needs to make up and my job is to avoid collapse!



RangerJoe -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (8/8/2020 10:01:28 PM)

I thought that they might be like American PT boats. They come back but with different numbers. Maybe someone can answer that question.



John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (8/10/2020 12:22:10 AM)

Scott went in for an all out fighter sweep over Kobe and it was a bloody turn. Lots of dead fighters, and, from my point of view, it was good because more of the fighters were his. I think the Corsair 1As are getting to be too obsolete to be a front line fighter. They may be going to ground support.

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (8/10/2020 12:23:49 AM)

Ugh, I can't do the save files thing right.

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (8/10/2020 12:24:16 AM)

And the actual plane losses.

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