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RangerJoe -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (8/10/2020 2:27:42 AM)

Looking good!



John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (8/10/2020 11:07:16 PM)

Another day and here we see Scott's ever more bold shore bombardments. He sailed right up to Kurume (on the left next to Nagasaki) and the CD fort in the hex next to him did not fire at all so he shelled with abandon. If he invades there it will be interesting as MTBs could go after him like fish in a barrel.

He shelled me in the north and my ssxs and mines had no effect. Also, night naval missions tend to (a) miss and (b) still get shredded by his flak.

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (8/10/2020 11:08:19 PM)

American carriers were in the southern TF in the picture above.

Scott launched a major strat raid in central Japan and knocked out a 45 strength zero factory.

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (8/10/2020 11:09:16 PM)

But, the airwar went my way with lots more dead allied fighters. I'm not sure what his pilot losses are like, but these are combats that all take place over Kobe.

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (8/14/2020 6:52:32 PM)

Another turn and the Empire of Japan continues to creak along. Scott took Kukong and is pushing up into Central China. I sank a Sub on the coast of Japan.

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (8/20/2020 12:14:38 PM)

Well, it's almost the end of February and the Empire of Japan is barely clinging to a lead. Scott has a lot of CVs up near Sakahlin sinking my merchant fleet and seems to roam in and out of home island ports at will. He'll sink the odd ssx before he bombards, but my minefields have not hit any of his ships and my CD guns don't fire even when he lingers in the hex. On the upside, I'm still winning. :)

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (8/22/2020 8:41:10 PM)

Another day and still clinging to the lead. Each day is precious. Scott's carriers roam at will. He has AM's minesweeping Hiroshima harbor while waving gaily to the CD commander who never opens fire. But, as you can see, it was a pretty good day airwise with the Hiroshima flak turning in yeoman's work.

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (8/22/2020 8:42:07 PM)

Looks like a number of 2 point B-24s were accounted for. And, in the first night raid on Tokyo, 4 B-29s did not make it home.

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (8/24/2020 11:23:51 PM)

Any body have any good ideas on how to stop Allied shore bombardments of the home islands. I'm basically out of mines and ships and mini-subs are just an invitation for the Allies to pick up 4 VP per sub. Since all of Japan is on the coast Scott can just run his ships in, bombard the airfield (killing and disrupting a whole lot of planes) and then swarm it with heavies in the day time killing all of the damaged planes. Non-CD artillery rarely fires at the bombarding ships. All suggestions will be submitted directly to the emperor who will reward the best suggestion by thinking kind thoughts about the author of the suggestion for an entire minute! :)

Thanks.



RangerJoe -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (8/24/2020 11:34:01 PM)

Base your aircraft at non-coastal base hexes.



GetAssista -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (8/24/2020 11:42:10 PM)

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ORIGINAL: John B.
Any body have any good ideas on how to stop Allied shore bombardments of the home islands. I'm basically out of mines and ships and mini-subs are just an invitation for the Allies to pick up 4 VP per sub.

You cannot, so brace yourself. If you have PT boats left you can try organize a trap one of those moonless nights. But don't keep pt boats there cause they will be swept by DDs very soon. hide them until the next night trap



RangerJoe -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (8/25/2020 1:04:30 AM)

Maybe try Kates/Jills/Graces at 100 feet one time if you have the torpedoes. Maybe they can sneak in under any CAP/LRCAP. Maybe try that the next day after PT boats.



John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (8/25/2020 8:26:36 PM)

These are all good ideas! I'm saving the MTBs for any invasion of the home islands as any AKAs and APAs can, if you're lucky, get smacked around by the MTBs. Otherwise, I'm not putting planes on the unprotected coast where I can help it.



RangerJoe -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (8/25/2020 9:14:08 PM)

The Torpedo planes do not have to be on the coast, try doing it in poor weather even although at that altitude there should be little reaction. Kamikazes could also fly at that altitude to smack ships around as well. If you can also have a high fighter sweep at the location, the enemy CAP could be caught in between and bounced by any fighters. These do not have to be the best fighters and pilots, just something to help keep the CAP off the bombers.



John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (8/27/2020 7:44:49 PM)

Another day and more death and destruction. Scott noticed that his VP suddenly dropped by 1000 points and I see it as well. The only thing I can think of is that he does not have enough supply at some high value base (e.g. Singapore or Manila) to get his entire VP allotment. Otherwise, I see to have sunk a number of Allied CVs without knowing it. :)

Scott basically shelled all around the HI this time. Not much to do about it but grin and bear it. I did get in a Kamikaze strike near Guam and got a hit on the Hermes with a Betty. There was a report of deck penetration but no reported fires and no follow on attacks.

I moved transports to Chungking to fly as much of the 60th division out of its current death trap that I can manage. I should have 3 more turns of flying.

Also, it's quiet in Korea. I suspect Scott is getting ready to hit the home islands but we'll have to see. Keijo is finally cut off.

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (8/27/2020 7:46:41 PM)

The air losses would have been better but one of Scott CV TFS found some high value shihps I was trying to sneak into Tokyo and plastered the ships but also mowed their way through a training squadron that happened to be in the hex. Welcome to the war boys.

Over Kyoto my margin over his older Corsairs helped to make up for the loss.

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (8/29/2020 6:13:37 PM)

We have reached March 1, 1945 and Scott has finally taken the lead. The Emperor is not happy! Now, can he get 78,000+ VP by September 1, 1945? We shall have to see. This turn he bombed the snot out of Sendai getting a fire level of 118,000 so there may not be much left of that city. Because I don't have much in the way of critical factories in the north I don't really have air defense up there. Better to be concentrated down south. Scott is sinking my large merchant fleet that is up there. There were on the resource run north and were used until they ran out of fuel. There loss is regrettable but expected.

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (8/29/2020 6:14:49 PM)

About 1.9 million supply and 600k fuel. Still some plentiful oil stockpiles.

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (8/29/2020 6:16:32 PM)

It's all about the plane production baby. :) Concentrating on the Frank and George. But, the K 100 I Tony just showed up and it seems to be a pretty good plane and has a one maintenance value so I'm also putting resources into that.

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (8/29/2020 6:19:02 PM)

After the war Japan plans on conquering the world by selling it vast quantities of HI points. :) I would turn my HI off but it generates two supply each turn so I'll run down my fuel with some margin for last ditch ship use and then turn the HI off. Some HI on the mainland continues to produce and they really need supply so it stays on as well.

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (8/29/2020 6:20:42 PM)

Here is the situation in China. Scott has been held up in the south for a long long time and that may not change soon. But, the Brits coming out of Indochina have pushed on. The question for them is do they head north to Chungking (big VP bag) or push east. I don't think that they are strong enough to do both and I have several Japanese divisions in the wooded rough up there.

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (8/29/2020 6:22:12 PM)

Not much is happening in Korea. Keijio holds out and it's light industry still has resources to produce supplies plus my airlift is flying stuff in. If Scott opts to land in the wide open terrain of northern China he can have it as his airforce will obliterate me there.

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (8/29/2020 6:23:00 PM)

Port Blair and Phuket continue to breath free showing that there are several hours per day where the sun does not set on the Japanese empire. :)

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (8/29/2020 6:23:46 PM)

I got a hit on the Hermes near Guam and my Kamis did not fly for the next two days. Heavy sigh.

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (8/29/2020 6:25:02 PM)

Last but not least the HI themselves. Will Scott invade? I think so. But the real question is where will he land? He has his carriers roaming around the islands attacking me but no fighter sweeps for a few turns.

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GetAssista -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (8/29/2020 6:27:59 PM)

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ORIGINAL: John B.
After the war Japan plans on conquering the world by selling it vast quantities of HI points. :) I would turn my HI off but it generates two supply each turn so I'll run down my fuel with some margin for last ditch ship use and then turn the HI off. Some HI on the mainland continues to produce and they really need supply so it stays on as well.

You need supplies far more than you need ships so I say keep HI running no matter what until the last drop of fuel. Ships won't get you VPs like air and ground war will. If you need some last ditch sorties suck out whatever left in the merchant's bunkers.

Yeah, HI those reserves - economic miracle is waiting, just like in reality [:D]



RangerJoe -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (8/29/2020 7:22:40 PM)


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ORIGINAL: GetAssista

quote:

ORIGINAL: John B.
After the war Japan plans on conquering the world by selling it vast quantities of HI points. :) I would turn my HI off but it generates two supply each turn so I'll run down my fuel with some margin for last ditch ship use and then turn the HI off. Some HI on the mainland continues to produce and they really need supply so it stays on as well.

You need supplies far more than you need ships so I say keep HI running no matter what until the last drop of fuel. Ships won't get you VPs like air and ground war will. If you need some last ditch sorties suck out whatever left in the merchant's bunkers.

Yeah, HI those reserves - economic miracle is waiting, just like in reality [:D]


Not necessarily true. You may want to charge with some SC TFs against any cripples from Kamikaze air actions. More points can be made there and you may be able to slow the bleeding somewhat.

Not to mention MTBs, mini-subs, plus any regular subs, possibly with mines as well.



GetAssista -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (8/29/2020 10:46:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: RangerJoe
Not necessarily true. You may want to charge with some SC TFs against any cripples from Kamikaze air actions. More points can be made there and you may be able to slow the bleeding somewhat.

Not to mention MTBs, mini-subs, plus any regular subs, possibly with mines as well.

You make an argument from "maybe this happens" point of view, I do it from the whole set of possibilities and my assessment of relative probabilities. How many times have you seen kami devastation followed by successful surface raids? I've seen it once. How many times have you seen Japan struggling w/o supply? Every time.

Not to mention ports keep fuel reserves according to their size. And a majority of ports does not have HI, so small fry will have its fuel anyways



John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (8/29/2020 11:08:25 PM)

Thanks for both sets of opinions. I refueled my navy this turn for one last run if the opportunity presents itself. I do still have a number of CVs so I think that helps to deter Scott from invading in the north. But, supply is crucial. I'm not sure how 1.9 million looks for the start of March 1945 but most of my factories are still going. China will run out of supply soon, my one bright spot is that Scott has basically left the light industry alone so China is at least producing some supply each turn. About 1,000 or so in a very rough guess.

I think the MTBs are a precious resource and now I'm hoarding them to hit the invasion fleet if he come close to a big enough port. With some luck they can get in among the transports. I actually think that makes it better as the US to invade at times of full moonlight as it makes it harder for the MTBs to get close.



RangerJoe -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (8/30/2020 12:53:01 AM)

If you want to, sneak the CVs out for a raid if you see some juicy convoys coming. Someone did that and raided near the Hawaiian islands around 7 December 1944.



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