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Aloid -> What's old is new (again) (6/10/2017 5:10:55 AM)
Hi all, For years I've been a lurker seldom posting But I figured you guys would appreciate hearing my confession... [&o] I'm in my 50's... brought up on serious board games in the 70's. My first computer game purchase was Grigsby's Guadalcanal Campaign for Apple II+ in the early 80's. It was the 48K machine... man that was they sh*t. LOL! Brought the Apple and game home and a buddy and I played hot seat nearly 24hrs... Fast forward thru many years of gaming... too many years... played the hell out of UV when it came out and started WITP a number of times... never finishing because life/kids/etc. always got in the way. Sadly, I left WITP behind for many years... got in to shooters... and other games... yes... I sinned greatly. Through it all though, I've never been able to find that one game that captured the identity of WW2... well, er, okay, maybe GDW's Europa but that takes too many square feet to play... good luck with that! [:-] What I mean is... there is something about that era, the equipment... planes, ships, tanks, etc. the people that made it happen... The variation thru the years of the war... the impact of those innovations... it really was the greatest generation in so many ways! Tactical games ultimately felt hollow in some way... they didn't fit in to a meaningful picture... sure I won the battle of the bulge, but I don't get to reap the reward of doing so. No long term impact. Too many strategic games glossed over the good stuff... you know... when the Tigers show up, or the Hellcats start to see service... ;) My long winded tale brings me back to WITP AE and my confession. Since its ascension, I've always been intimidated by AE. But I've always lurking here... admiring those who've kept the faith... all along, deep down, I've always known it is the one game that would capture the scope and flavor of WW2 I am ultimately seeking. Thus, as of today, I repent my sins. [&o] I give myself, whole heartedly to this task... to pray at the altar of the Admiral and submit myself to many hours... nay years of service... pushing men, supplies and equipment to their ultimate glory. I seek forgiveness for my many years of wandering the abyss... [:-] Thank you for hearing my confession... Hey the install is done!! Time to get busy!!! [:D] Enjoy!! Aloid

John 3rd -> RE: What's old is new (again) (6/10/2017 6:26:10 AM)
BANZAI!

JeffroK -> RE: What's old is new (again) (6/10/2017 7:09:47 AM)
REMEMBER PEARL HARBOR!!!!

geofflambert -> RE: What's old is new (again) (6/10/2017 9:02:52 AM)
LOL? People in my age group don't use abbreviations. Where'd you learn that? We actually know how to spell and can type with nine fingers. Yes, nine. You don't need two thumbs for the space bar. I always use the right one. I could suck the left one for all it's worth. As for axioms, here's one - those who forget history are doomed to repeat it. So the correct formulation is "What's new is old (again)".

Trugrit -> RE: What's old is new (again) (6/10/2017 10:09:07 AM)
Share it Brother!………I’ve been there and back. Many of us that play this game need group therapy and there is always an empty chair here. [image]local://upfiles/49386/D455677045C74552AD00C4EDC780250D.jpg[/image]

Skyros -> RE: What's old is new (again) (6/10/2017 11:36:36 AM)
Hello, my name is Ray and I have been laying WITPAE since development. [&o]

btd64 -> RE: What's old is new (again) (6/10/2017 12:37:59 PM)
Welcome. It's a ride, so buckle up....GP

dcpollay -> RE: What's old is new (again) (6/10/2017 12:55:24 PM)
Aloid, As you can see, TruGrit has many empty therapy chairs. Nobody shows up because we are all busy living our alternate lives, err, playing the game. Rest assured, you will skip the therapy as well!

Yaab -> RE: What's old is new (again) (6/10/2017 5:12:41 PM)
Aloid, welcome! Give it a few years and you will turn into a whiner constatly bitching about no avgas, universal supply and lopsided China. Don't say you haven't been warned.

tocaff -> RE: What's old is new (again) (6/10/2017 5:43:05 PM)
So now that you've decided to give up what some call a normal life will you play PBEM? If so will you become a JFB? So many unanswered questions. Welcome aboard!

Lawless1 -> RE: What's old is new (again) (6/10/2017 9:47:19 PM)
Welcome aboard

Xargun -> RE: What's old is new (again) (6/11/2017 2:17:05 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tocaff So now that you've decided to give up what some call a normal life will you play PBEM? If so will you become a JFB? So many unanswered questions. Welcome aboard! One can only hope.. We are a dwindling club. For the Glory of the Emperor !!

Ian R -> RE: What's old is new (again) (6/11/2017 9:10:25 AM)
Don't worry, you'll be complaining about some detail in the OOB soon enough.

ny59giants -> RE: What's old is new (again) (6/11/2017 11:46:18 AM)
Welcome!! If you choose to play Japan, your best friend is to install Tracker to help manage your economy. It has helped me play that side with some degree of confidence.

SierraJuliet -> RE: What's old is new (again) (6/11/2017 12:01:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tocaff So now that you've decided to give up what some call a normal life will you play PBEM? If so will you become a JFB? So many unanswered questions. Welcome aboard! My dogged Allied opponent has beaten me to it. Yes now that you are out of hiding we await your tales of glory or dreadful disaster. And we do want to know which side will march to the beat of your drum.

Aloid -> RE: What's old is new (again) (6/12/2017 3:41:11 AM)
Thank you all for the warm welcome… I’m getting the feeling the PBEM’ers are smelling blood in the water… [;)] I might be willing to do PBEM but would likely be later in the year because of work. For now I’m going thru the tutorials on Youtube every spare moment and reading a lot on the forums… Also, many many thanks for the tech support for Windows 10… I’ve got the game purring like a Hellcat. Well.... I'm off to start a campaign... good luck and good hunting!!! Enjoy Aloid

SierraJuliet -> RE: What's old is new (again) (6/12/2017 1:16:01 PM)
Take your time. There is a mountain of things to get your head around. PBEM is something to come to when you feel you have some understanding of the game. Finding a good human opponent, however, will give you a richer playing experience than the AI can muster. Read up on the AARs. They will give you stacks of ideas on how to run your forces.

Macclan5 -> RE: What's old is new (again) (6/12/2017 2:33:07 PM)
Welcome... from a relative new newbie. Advice I was given (if applicable) : "abandon thee thy spouse and children" [:D] Its a great place here. There are so very many: 1) Helpful veterans in this community 2) Helpful links / definitions / explanations / AARs / Informative threads. I would as always recommend you at least read the manual. Many things that do not seem to make sense will... spend some time in the War room FAQs.... The answer to 87.15163333% of all rookie questions is "it depends". Providing specific situations with references to the FAQ often gets you the correct answer.

Chickenboy -> RE: What's old is new (again) (6/12/2017 4:20:10 PM)
Welcome, Aloid. All is forgiven-and thanks for the confession. Take it slowly and let the game 'brain suck' its way into your life. You'll be enriched/sorry for the experience. [8D]

witpqs -> RE: What's old is new (again) (6/12/2017 4:29:50 PM)
Welcome back, er, sort of! [:D]

jamesjohns -> RE: What's old is new (again) (6/12/2017 5:51:31 PM)
Aloid, I feel your pain! Your story is my story. Same generation, grew up on Squad Leader, Rise and Fall of The Third Reich, and many others. (Ever get halfway through a game of cardboard armies only have the house cat jump on the table?..looked like a WW3 game after that) In high school a group of gaming friends and I would snicker whenever a classmate mentioned how tough and complex Risk was. [;)] WITPAE is a game I play for a while and then life (job, kids, wife) stops the game for far too long. Hang in there, this is a great game and great community.

inqistor -> RE: What's old is new (again) (6/12/2017 6:49:55 PM)
Welcome aboard, Aloid! Aren't your avatar taken from excellent game, Emperor of the Fading Suns? I really liked its rich production system, but land warfare could use some slowing down (and S...whateverwastheirname Brain Bugs, could have been more expansive).

rsallen64 -> RE: What's old is new (again) (6/12/2017 7:27:11 PM)
I feel the same way. Started in the '70's with games like Panzer Leader and Squad Leader, then graduated to computers, played hell out of UV, and have had WITP-AE, played the Guadalcanal scenario but never a GC. Just starting my first one and looking forward to it. Can't wait to dive in, and have been reading the forum for years now. Welcome aboard to all of us relatively old-timer newbies!

jamesjohns -> RE: What's old is new (again) (6/12/2017 7:47:34 PM)
rsallen64, I take it from your screen name you where a tanker in the Army? Just curious if a fellow "tread-head" was on the board?

rustysi -> RE: What's old is new (again) (6/13/2017 1:43:43 AM)
Log off this site. Turn off your computer, and run for your life. You will be subsumed. No one will ever see you again. Run, run I say. Your life depends on it. [:D] Ignore these words at your own peril.[:'(]

rsallen64 -> RE: What's old is new (again) (6/13/2017 6:51:20 PM)
jamesjohns: I was, and still miss it very much. Oddly enough, in the job I started two years ago I am working with a retired CSM who is also a fellow tread head. It's a small world.

Aloid -> RE: What's old is new (again) (6/14/2017 2:36:04 AM)
Wow, thank you all again for the continued welcome! As I mentioned previously, I had not been able to find a game with the right feeling of being connected to the era. The decisions I made didn’t seem to have meaning in the long run… there was always something visceral that was missing. So I fired up the grand campaign to get a feel for what AE brings to the table… keeping my first couple turns light… it’s not like every commander had the sparkling clear view of the grand strategy in play on Dec. 8th or 9th… A couple days in I witnessed Buffaloes catching unescorted Nells and actually doing some damage… Claudes clawing up to altitude to take on some early B-17’s… It was glorious!! Exactly what I was looking for… and… then… The Enterprise was torpedoed and sunk South of Pearl… Thrill and agony… What have I gotten myself in to? quote: ORIGINAL: jamesjohns Aloid, I feel your pain! Your story is my story. Same generation, grew up on Squad Leader, Rise and Fall of The Third Reich, and many others. (Ever get halfway through a game of cardboard armies only have the house cat jump on the table?..looked like a WW3 game after that) In high school a group of gaming friends and I would snicker whenever a classmate mentioned how tough and complex Risk was. [;)] WITPAE is a game I play for a while and then life (job, kids, wife) stops the game for far too long. Hang in there, this is a great game and great community. Yes!! Just finding space for games like Terrible Swift Sword, Operation Crusader, Atlantic Wall... and having the time.... ah... youth. [;)] quote: ORIGINAL: inqistor Welcome aboard, Aloid! Aren't your avatar taken from excellent game, Emperor of the Fading Suns? I really liked its rich production system, but land warfare could use some slowing down (and S...whateverwastheirname Brain Bugs, could have been more expansive). Good eye... Yes that is House Hawkwood... I was happy to see my Avatar was still loaded here! EFS is one of my favorites and I wish someone would remake it! quote: ORIGINAL: rustysi Log off this site. Turn off your computer, and run for your life. You will be subsumed. No one will ever see you again. Run, run I say. Your life depends on it. [:D] Ignore these words at your own peril.[:'(] Too late!!! [:D]

Hermit -> RE: What's old is new (again) (6/16/2017 3:15:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jamesjohns (Ever get halfway through a game of cardboard armies only have the house cat jump on the table?..looked like a WW3 game after that) Our cat never got up on things, my Mom would have skinned it alive. My nemesis was my younger sister, who thought all the colored counters were "cool!" She liked to examine them, and they often didn't end up back in their original location. In some ways, more disastrous than a cat, since one didn't always notice the errant counter until play had continued a bit ... ("hey, you're cheating, that wasn't there before")

Reg -> RE: What's old is new (again) (6/17/2017 12:14:46 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aloid Yes!! Just finding space for games like Terrible Swift Sword, Operation Crusader, Atlantic Wall... and having the time.... ah... youth. [;)] Or retirement..... It will give you something to look forward to. [:)] I just hope I will still be able to absorb rulebooks which seem to be the size of encyclopaedias. [:D] One of the goals of maintaining an active mind for your entire life. [;)]

rustysi -> RE: What's old is new (again) (6/17/2017 1:08:25 AM)
quote: Yes!! Just finding space for games like Terrible Swift Sword, Operation Crusader, Atlantic Wall. Don't forget 'Wacht(?sp) am Rhine', and 'Overlord'.[:D] quote: Or retirement..... Soon... very soon.[;)]

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