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adarbrauner -> OT:Just because (10/26/2017 12:46:55 PM)
I liked it [image]local://upfiles/55335/B7787D437479450AB0FE9F92060DE050.jpg[/image]

Leandros -> RE: OT:Just because (10/26/2017 1:19:26 PM)
The Browning? Fred

Canoerebel -> RE: OT:Just because (10/26/2017 1:25:16 PM)
My money: The humanity. Taking the risk of picking up children and bringing them to safety in a hot zone. Compelling photo. Okinawa?

Chickenboy -> RE: OT:Just because (10/26/2017 1:26:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Canoerebel My money: The humanity. Taking the risk of picking up children and bringing them to safety in a hot zone. Compelling photo. Okinawa? Vietnam, CR. Note the M16A2 the infantryman on the right is carrying.

witpqs -> RE: OT:Just because (10/26/2017 1:27:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Canoerebel My money: The humanity. Taking the risk of picking up children and bringing them to safety in a hot zone. Compelling photo. Okinawa? M-16.

Canoerebel -> RE: OT:Just because (10/26/2017 1:27:12 PM)
You're talking shop to a guy who has no clue.

adarbrauner -> RE: OT:Just because (10/26/2017 1:52:56 PM)
The Rebel Admiral was on focus as always- apart from the m 16...... But alas, yes, the 30 cal in Vietnam is also intersting spot.

adarbrauner -> RE: OT:Just because (10/26/2017 1:54:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Chickenboy quote: ORIGINAL: Canoerebel My money: The humanity. Taking the risk of picking up children and bringing them to safety in a hot zone. Compelling photo. Okinawa? Vietnam, CR. Note the M16A2 the infantryman on the right is carrying. How can you tell it an A2 version rather than the ordinary first issue?

witpqs -> RE: OT:Just because (10/26/2017 1:57:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Leandros The Browning? Fred No, the soldier carrying the children has what looks like an M-16. Look at the high front sight.

witpqs -> RE: OT:Just because (10/26/2017 2:00:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: adarbrauner quote: ORIGINAL: Chickenboy quote: ORIGINAL: Canoerebel My money: The humanity. Taking the risk of picking up children and bringing them to safety in a hot zone. Compelling photo. Okinawa? Vietnam, CR. Note the M16A2 the infantryman on the right is carrying. How can you tell it an A2 version rather than the ordinary first issue? [:D] The generic answer is: because this is the AE board and even when I wrote "M-16" I knew someone would also recognize details like 'the tripod nuts on the MG' or 'the number of cross laces on the boots' or ... [:'(] [:D]

Chickenboy -> RE: OT:Just because (10/26/2017 2:02:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Canoerebel You're talking shop to a guy who has no clue. The bang bang stick that the soldier on the right is carrying (along with the two children) is similar to the one the soldier in the background and the soldier leaning against the tree has. This appears to be an M16A1 (I think I erroneously identified the rifle as an M16A2 in my previous post). This distinctive combat rifle was not in service at the time of the Second World War when Okinawa was the site of a major fight. When dating combat pictures, I look for details in the firearms and uniforms of the soldiers involved. That helps me date the time frame that they were likely taken. There is a discordant note in this image-the inclusion of the bipod M1919A4/6 light machine gun in the lower left frame. These were in widespread service in WWII, post 1943. They were largely supplanted by the M60 in the LMG capacity in Vietnam.

Chickenboy -> RE: OT:Just because (10/26/2017 2:02:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: adarbrauner quote: ORIGINAL: Chickenboy quote: ORIGINAL: Canoerebel My money: The humanity. Taking the risk of picking up children and bringing them to safety in a hot zone. Compelling photo. Okinawa? Vietnam, CR. Note the M16A2 the infantryman on the right is carrying. How can you tell it an A2 version rather than the ordinary first issue? As you were typing, I corrected myself. [:D]

Chickenboy -> RE: OT:Just because (10/26/2017 2:04:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: adarbrauner quote: ORIGINAL: Chickenboy quote: ORIGINAL: Canoerebel My money: The humanity. Taking the risk of picking up children and bringing them to safety in a hot zone. Compelling photo. Okinawa? Vietnam, CR. Note the M16A2 the infantryman on the right is carrying. How can you tell it an A2 version rather than the ordinary first issue? But it's not original issue M-16, due to the absence of the hated 'can opener' flash diffusor on the front. I think the M16A1 largely dealt away with that.

Leandros -> RE: OT:Just because (10/26/2017 2:04:24 PM)
If it's Vietnam, it's not an A2. BTW, they all carry M16s. As for the Browning, not often seen with bipod and shoulder stock. Are these Marines? Fred

Chickenboy -> RE: OT:Just because (10/26/2017 2:07:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Leandros If it's Vietnam, it's not an A2. BTW, they all carry M16s. As for the Browning, not often seen with bipod and shoulder stock. Are these Marines? Fred Sorry Fred. This is the AE board. My post 10 seconds before yours corrected my egregious A2/A1 mistake. [:'(]

Leandros -> RE: OT:Just because (10/26/2017 2:31:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Chickenboy quote: ORIGINAL: Leandros If it's Vietnam, it's not an A2. BTW, they all carry M16s. As for the Browning, not often seen with bipod and shoulder stock. Are these Marines? Fred Sorry Fred. This is the AE board. My post 10 seconds before yours corrected my egregious A2/A1 mistake. [:'(] No problem. The 20-round magazine hints to an early version. Fred

AW1Steve -> RE: OT:Just because (10/26/2017 2:32:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Chickenboy quote: ORIGINAL: adarbrauner quote: ORIGINAL: Chickenboy quote: ORIGINAL: Canoerebel My money: The humanity. Taking the risk of picking up children and bringing them to safety in a hot zone. Compelling photo. Okinawa? Vietnam, CR. Note the M16A2 the infantryman on the right is carrying. How can you tell it an A2 version rather than the ordinary first issue? But it's not original issue M-16, due to the absence of the hated 'can opener' flash diffusor on the front. I think the M16A1 largely dealt away with that. I think it's an A-1. A-2 came very late (in fact few troops in Vietnam had it late in the war , and the USMC (except for special guard assignments like the embassy) were gone by then. You can really tell as in both cases the "assist button" (the big button you hit when the @##$% thing jams) is hidden. But you are right about the flash hider. The browning light machine gun was used by the Marines till quite late in the war. I'd say this photo (based upon the uniforms and armor) was relatively early in the war , probably pre-Tet offensive. The USNC always held on to old gear as long as possible. At this point they were still using UH-34's as helos (and used the same browning), had reluctantly given up their beloved M-14's and were just getting the M-60.

AW1Steve -> RE: OT:Just because (10/26/2017 2:34:02 PM)
And the Browning appear to be a local mod on the bipod. The standard issue wad shorter legged.

Leandros -> RE: OT:Just because (10/26/2017 2:39:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AW1Steve And the Browning appear to be a local mod on the bipod. The standard issue wad shorter legged. Actually it was adjustable in height. Fred

BBfanboy -> RE: OT:Just because (10/26/2017 2:44:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Leandros quote: ORIGINAL: AW1Steve And the Browning appear to be a local mod on the bipod. The standard issue wad shorter legged. Actually it was adjustable in height. Fred In a communications seminar I attended, the instructor emphasized to never say/write "actually" when you are correcting someone. It is like slapping them in the face and saying "You idiot! How could you not know that!".

AW1Steve -> RE: OT:Just because (10/26/2017 2:50:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Leandros quote: ORIGINAL: AW1Steve And the Browning appear to be a local mod on the bipod. The standard issue wad shorter legged. Actually it was adjustable in height. Fred Yes it was. But look at how long this one is. There may have been a post war version that was longer , but any of the world war two versions I've seen or handled didn't extend that far.

Leandros -> RE: OT:Just because (10/26/2017 3:06:26 PM)
You may be right. Anyway, good job by the guy....[:)].. Fred

witpqs -> RE: OT:Just because (10/26/2017 3:10:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BBfanboy quote: ORIGINAL: Leandros quote: ORIGINAL: AW1Steve And the Browning appear to be a local mod on the bipod. The standard issue wad shorter legged. Actually it was adjustable in height. Fred In a communications seminar I actually attended, the instructor actually emphasized to never say/write "actually" when you are actually correcting someone. It is actually like slapping them in the face and actually saying "You idiot! How could you not know that!". I actually fixed your post for you. [:'(]

Chickenboy -> RE: OT:Just because (10/26/2017 3:36:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BBfanboy quote: ORIGINAL: Leandros quote: ORIGINAL: AW1Steve And the Browning appear to be a local mod on the bipod. The standard issue wad shorter legged. Actually it was adjustable in height. Fred In a communications seminar I attended, the instructor emphasized to never say/write "actually" when you are correcting someone. It is like slapping them in the face and saying "You idiot! How could you not know that!". Are you saying to Fred that he actually shouldn't be correcting someone in that fashion? [:'(]

Chickenboy -> RE: OT:Just because (10/26/2017 3:38:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BBfanboy It is like slapping them in the face and saying "You idiot! How could you not know that!". And? What's wrong with that? [:D]

MakeeLearn -> RE: OT:Just because (10/26/2017 3:40:16 PM)
ROK soldiers in Vietnam?!

Lecivius -> RE: OT:Just because (10/26/2017 3:40:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BBfanboy It is like slapping them in the face and saying "You idiot! How could you not know that!". [image]local://upfiles/26061/5D7F6CE265294420ADDA2A7E6FED43B2.jpg[/image]

AW1Steve -> RE: OT:Just because (10/26/2017 3:41:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Chickenboy quote: ORIGINAL: BBfanboy It is like slapping them in the face and saying "You idiot! How could you not know that!". And? What's wrong with that? [:D] Absolutely nothing wrong with that. I've had much worse than that. Especially here on this forum. Why just the other day , "somebody" suggested that I be sold for scrap. No buyers though. [:D]

MakeeLearn -> RE: OT:Just because (10/26/2017 3:47:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MakeeLearn ROK soldiers in Vietnam?! Yes.... "The soldier is from the Baekma Division (White Horse) which is the 9th infantry. "On November 27, 1967, a soldier of the 30th regiment of the Baekma Division (백마부대) rescues Vietnamese children at the battle of Dien Can. This soldier's name is An Sang-Byung (안상병). ""

Chickenboy -> RE: OT:Just because (10/26/2017 3:49:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MakeeLearn quote: ORIGINAL: MakeeLearn ROK soldiers in Vietnam?! Yes.... "The soldier is from the Baekma Division (White Horse) which is the 9th infantry. "On November 27, 1967, a soldier of the 30th regiment of the Baekma Division (백마부대) rescues Vietnamese children at the battle of Dien Can. This soldier's name is An Sang-Byung (안상병). "" Interesting. Where did you find this, MakeeLearn?

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