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tyronec -> T27 (12/23/2017 3:19:58 PM)

T27.
AGN. Holding out well. 13 hexes to Moscow.
AGC. 11 hexes to Tula, looking OK but there is a lot of open ground to defend.
AGS. Have had a division trapped, defended the river line one turn too long. However they will slow up the Soviets a little unless they are routed out. The mass of cavalry corps is making a difference. 11 hexes to the Stalino complex.
Finally got my rail network all linked up.


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STEF78 -> Blizzard (12/23/2017 3:25:19 PM)

Very nice AAR

German defence looks fine. I think in the South, Tyronec will be able to hold the Vorochilovsk/Taganrog line.

Rate of retreat seems also good in front of Moscow. Railheads are closer every turn.

Still 2 harsh turns, the 2 harshest due to disrupted squads. January will be softer and february should be equilibrated as soviet doesn't have the +1.




Nix77 -> RE: Blizzard (12/23/2017 4:18:45 PM)

Tyronec, you don’t seem to be protecting your panzers from the perils of the First Winter that much (stationing in cities or sending to west). Are you prepared for the morale & equipment loss?



SparkleyTits -> RE: Blizzard (12/23/2017 4:25:08 PM)

I was thinking the same thing Nix

The VP requirement being the way it is may be having an effect on decisions?



Dinglir -> RE: Soviet GT 26 (12/23/2017 5:30:55 PM)


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ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain
German units strength is always being able to retreat in 41 & 42. This turns into a weakness during the winter months if the Soviet player attacks correctly. I can tell you for sure that Gronard1812 knows what to do to take advantage of this ;)


Personally, one of the changes I would welcome are for in supply (at the start of the turn) units to rout rather than withdraw, if they can not withdraw to a friendly hex that are connected to a railhead.

Of course, I also belong to the minority who does not think the Axis are overpowered as it is (actually, I think it is the opposite way round).



tyronec -> RE: Soviet GT 26 (12/23/2017 5:40:27 PM)

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Tyronec, you don’t seem to be protecting your panzers from the perils of the First Winter that much (stationing in cities or sending to west). Are you prepared for the morale & equipment loss?

Have been playing this to try and win on VPs, hence my aggressive attacks during the snow to take terrain/destroy rail. Will cause me problems if the game goes past April.

quote:

Of course, I also belong to the minority who does not think the Axis are overpowered as it is (actually, I think it is the opposite way round).

Am not at all sure what the game balance is under the latest patch, guess we need to see how a few more games pan out.



Nix77 -> RE: Soviet GT 26 (12/23/2017 7:36:14 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tyronec
Have been playing this to try and win on VPs, hence my aggressive attacks during the snow to take terrain/destroy rail. Will cause me problems if the game goes past April.


Lets see how the plan for Sudden Death works, going to be an action-packed winter for sure :)

Is Grognard's earlier calculation correct: he needs 6 VP to prevent the Sudden Death in April '42?




tyronec -> RE: Soviet GT 26 (12/23/2017 10:13:45 PM)

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Is Grognard's earlier calculation correct: he needs 6 VP to prevent the Sudden Death in April '42?

Yes, from memory I think he was spot on.
There are 3 or 4 cities available and then I think he will need one light urban to get over the threshold.



Grognard1812 -> RE: Soviet GT 26 (12/24/2017 1:45:42 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Mamluke

A mechanic that picks my interest for the Soviets for this game, is the improvement of generals, which according to the Manuel is solely dependent on the current year and number of victories, (not sure if there is a difference between attacking and defensive as far as the game engine is concerned).
Can you keep a watchful eye for this please? in the name of science! and the motherland too!

one more question, it seams like a lot of armies are still directly attach to Stavka, is it because all the fronts are overloaded? Is it simply not worth the increase of combat effectiveness attaching to fronts?


I haven't noticed that any of the Soviet Generals in the current game have had an increase in any of their skill
rating values yet, but will mention it in the future if it occurs.

I have concentrated the Soviet Air Force in 3 areas, in the north east of Moscow all the air units are attached
to the Long Range Air Command which is attached to STAVKA, most of the armies in the area are also attached
to STAVKA so that they receive air support. In the Voronezh area all the air units and 3 armies are attached
to the SW Front. In the Rostov area all the air units and 3 armies are attached to the Southern Front.
The other fronts I have left empty or didn't change the attachments for now.




Grognard1812 -> Soviet GT 27 (12/24/2017 1:50:23 AM)

Soviet GT 27

Third turn of blizzard.

The Soviet army has reached the city of Vladimir, and is slowly advancing westward towards Moscow.

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Grognard1812 -> RE: Soviet GT 27 (12/24/2017 2:08:57 AM)

In the Rostov area the three regiments of the 72nd German Infantry Division briefly opened a narrow supply
corridor, which was closed again by the Soviet cavalry.

Soviet Army cavalry corps are very effective in large numbers in the open Steppe during the winter, isolating
another 3 German infantry regiments (one from the 294th Inf Div and two from the 50th Inf Div).







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Mamluke -> RE: Soviet GT 26 (12/24/2017 11:35:02 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Grognard1812


quote:

ORIGINAL: Mamluke

A mechanic that picks my interest for the Soviets for this game, is the improvement of generals, which according to the Manuel is solely dependent on the current year and number of victories, (not sure if there is a difference between attacking and defensive as far as the game engine is concerned).
Can you keep a watchful eye for this please? in the name of science! and the motherland too!

one more question, it seams like a lot of armies are still directly attach to Stavka, is it because all the fronts are overloaded? Is it simply not worth the increase of combat effectiveness attaching to fronts?


I haven't noticed that any of the Soviet Generals in the current game have had an increase in any of their skill
rating values yet, but will mention it in the future if it occurs.

I have concentrated the Soviet Air Force in 3 areas, in the north east of Moscow all the air units are attached
to the Long Range Air Command which is attached to STAVKA, most of the armies in the area are also attached
to STAVKA so that they receive air support. In the Voronezh area all the air units and 3 armies are attached
to the SW Front. In the Rostov area all the air units and 3 armies are attached to the Southern Front.
The other fronts I have left empty or didn't change the attachments for now.


Holy crap I never though about air support being only given to the same higher level HQ.



tyronec -> T28 (12/24/2017 4:49:30 PM)

T28.
AGN. 11 hexes to Moscow.
AGC. 11 hexes to Tula.
AGS. 9 hexes to the Stalino complex. Two divisions cut off this turn, though they are doing a good job slowing down the advance.

A couple more cavalry divisions routed, always good to get rid of some of them for a turn or two as they are the main threat and should be beginning to run short of replacement squads soon.

Kluge got fired this turn, a bit harsh given his record - and most of the losses were failed attacks which shouldn't count.


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HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: T28 (12/24/2017 4:58:22 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: tyronec


A couple more cavalry divisions routed, always good to get rid of some of them for a turn or two as they are the main threat and should be beginning to run short of replacement squads soon.


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Yup, they should be for sure :). I know a great many people put their faith in Cavalry. I don't. Will be interesting to see this pan out. I just think Cav just doesn't have the punch needed :)



Grognard1812 -> Soviet GT 28 (12/25/2017 11:48:09 AM)

Soviet GT 28

Fourth turn of blizzard

The three infantry regiments of the 72nd Infantry Division surrender.



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Grognard1812 -> RE: Soviet GT 28 (12/25/2017 11:52:47 AM)

Two regiments from the 50th Infantry Division and one regiment from the 294th Infantry Division join
the 72nd Infantry Division on a train ride to Siberia.



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Grognard1812 -> RE: Soviet GT 28 (12/25/2017 11:54:46 AM)

Situation at the end of GT 28 in the Rostov area.



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Grognard1812 -> RE: Soviet GT 28 (12/25/2017 11:57:36 AM)

Situation east of Moscow at the end of GT 28.



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Grognard1812 -> RE: Soviet GT 28 (12/25/2017 12:04:30 PM)

Situation in the Voronezh area.

Steady progress is being made during the Soviet winter counter-offensive.

There appears to be a noticeable weakening of the Axis frontline.



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John B. -> RE: Soviet GT 28 (12/25/2017 2:04:04 PM)

I suspect that the new pixel prisoners are not allowed to ride the train to Siberia. Rather, it's a long long walk.

Looks like your offensive is going well so far!



SparkleyTits -> RE: Soviet GT 28 (12/25/2017 6:33:43 PM)

I see a lot of people placing defences a hex infront of rivers could someone tell me if there are advantages beyond hex retention?

I almost always place them the hex behind rivers unless absolutely needed for MP delays for the turn as it causes extra causalities and leader deaths etc



HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Soviet GT 28 (12/25/2017 7:41:48 PM)


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ORIGINAL: SparkleyTits

I see a lot of people placing defences a hex infront of rivers could someone tell me if there are advantages beyond hex retention?

I almost always place them the hex behind rivers unless absolutely needed for MP delays for the turn as it causes extra causalities and leader deaths etc


I assume you are talking about the 3 Rumanian units. They are in woods hexes which in winter is better than behind the river since the rivers are "frozen" ;-)



SparkleyTits -> RE: Soviet GT 28 (12/25/2017 7:47:41 PM)

Of course the rivers ice over in all force on week two...

Christmas has been a long day for me it seems

Much appreciated bud



tyronec -> T29 (12/26/2017 2:19:56 PM)

T29.
AGN. Some divisions threatened with encirclement but hope they will be OK next turn. Is not on the main axis of advance so not a threat to Moscow.
AGC. We push back a couple of spearheads. Have to pull back the front line again to guard against encirclement.
AGS. Another couple of units look to be in trouble next turn, however again if the Soviets work the pocket it will hold back their advance. As this looks to be the main danger area I move 3 Mountain and 3 infantry divisions south to reinforce the front line.

In total I routed about 5 units this turn and shattered a CV 9 Armoured division. Soviets are trying a new tactic of pushing the armour forwards to the front, presumably to save their cavalry. Wish I had taken a screen print - don't think I've ever seen a CV 9 soviet armoured division before at this stage of the game.
Since writing this have seen that the Armored division was a '7' on Grognard's screen.

The good news is it is now January and my CVs get a boost.


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tyronec -> T29 (12/26/2017 2:23:32 PM)

OOps



Balou -> RE: T29 (12/26/2017 7:19:40 PM)

1: How are those single mountain infantry regiments doing ? Never used them the way you did. I usually put them in a stack together with inf divs to boost my frontline.
2: Any units in reserve mode ?



Nix77 -> RE: T29 (12/26/2017 7:53:45 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tyronec
In total I routed about 5 units this turn and shattered a CV 9 Armoured division. Soviets are trying a new tactic of pushing the armour forwards to the front, presumably to save their cavalry. Wish I had taken a screen print - don't think I've ever seen a CV 9 soviet armoured division before at this stage of the game.
Since writing this I see that the armored division was a '7' on Grognard's screen



I think you're using the "Better CV" option? The displayed CVs reflect the leader's skill which boosts them up quite a bit. If you have normal CV on, you're in big trouble since Grognard's CVs would be astronomical :)

EDIT: I think normal blizzard doubles the Soviet displayed CVs? Never played that so I'm not sure.



HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: T29 (12/26/2017 8:46:42 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Balou

1: How are those single mountain infantry regiments doing ? Never used them the way you did. I usually put them in a stack together with inf divs to boost my frontline.
2: Any units in reserve mode ?


German Regiments are OP. Watch the casualty report what these units do for the amount of loses they take when attacked by a non regiment/brigade unit. It is a good tactic. Plus reserve movement is iffy in Blizzard



HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: T29 (12/26/2017 8:49:45 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Nix77


quote:

ORIGINAL: tyronec
In total I routed about 5 units this turn and shattered a CV 9 Armoured division. Soviets are trying a new tactic of pushing the armour forwards to the front, presumably to save their cavalry. Wish I had taken a screen print - don't think I've ever seen a CV 9 soviet armoured division before at this stage of the game.
Since writing this I see that the armored division was a '7' on Grognard's screen



I think you're using the "Better CV" option? The displayed CVs reflect the leader's skill which boosts them up quite a bit. If you have normal CV on, you're in big trouble since Grognard's CVs would be astronomical :)

EDIT: I think normal blizzard doubles the Soviet displayed CVs? Never played that so I'm not sure.


5-8 CV Armor Division isn't hard to get. Interesting that you shattered it though.



tyronec -> RE: T29 (12/26/2017 9:40:44 PM)

quote:

1: How are those single mountain infantry regiments doing ? Never used them the way you did. I usually put them in a stack together with inf divs to boost my frontline.
2: Any units in reserve mode ?

Mountain regiments have won about half their battles, doing a good job.
Had a lot of units on reserve the first couple of turns of blizzard but got zero ativations, so have given up on that. Have never played blizzard as Axis before, is a learning game for me.

We are not using Better CV.
Don't understand why that division shattered, was about 6:1 final odds but still. Soviet armored divisions do get strange results though.



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